i was 3 in 76 as well untill november of that year. i turned 4. i have no memory of this game. i remember rocky that year though

Orionsaint

@Billkwando: Or, in a slightly different way, the Victim series by Robert Sheckley, starting with "The 10th (or 7th) Victim". Please tell me I'm not the only one who read those. Come on? Any Hunters out there?

Erwin

I was really hoping the remake would be more like the old time classic. :/

Witzbold

@Madoc: You have a point! It's kinda like The Running Man (the book more than the movie) or Starship Troopers.

In that way, it's less cheesy and more ahead of its time.

Billkwando

@kyle: Have you met Chiller? It was even made by Exidy, the same people who made Death Race!
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Erwin

I have a version of Death Race for Nintendo (one of my handful of unlicensed games) that I bought from an old rental store. It's color and slightly more advanced than this version, but still pretty tame nowadays, however it does look like an inspiration for the original GTA.

Of course, anytime someone brings up Death Race 2000, it makes me think of Carmageddon, which violence or not, I always appreciated for it's multiple Win conditions.

P.S. I think the new Death Race movie looks foul.

slyty

@Erwin: Speaking of running people over, when will I ever get my next Carmageddon fix? Even a nice little XBLA port would be nice.

Erwin

i wonder if saw was made in the 70s what the videogame adaption of that would be like.

kyle

Deathrace 2000 was a satire. It satired many aspects of American society. In fact, some of its points are still relevant today, particularly its take on the glorification of violence.

In my cynical opinion, a lot of the outrage against the movie was really motived by the shots it takes at various American views which were prevelant then and many of which are still prevelant today.

Madoc

Ah, the classic outrage game. I thought it was blown way out of proportion, and really was far less of an issue than people made it to be, as is often the case today. Now Death Race was interesting to today's gamer for one very big parallel to any current media outrage: Back then the people on the side of the game tried to explain the controversy was being taken too far because the characters being killed in the game were just zombies...

Boy! That sure sounds familiar! When have people ever used the "not really human" excuse before? I bet it even makes a good racism deterrent. Really, this wouldn't be that remembered if not for the coverage and it's status as the originator of the violent game debate. If only they could've seen today's games!

Also: Argh... This Death Race movie remake just pisses me off. It has nothing in common with the original and stars Jason Statham. What a load of shit.

Erwin

Just like nudity was a big issue in older movies, we have grown to accept it. Just like now you would laugh and accept how primative this games violence looks when you compare it to the latest games out.

I know the latest games are more realistic as in it shows more gore/violence/nudity etc, but I do believe there will be a point were we accept these levels of violence as quite normal in games. I can see it happening when someone decides to push their game too far and breaks some major taboos classed too bad for other forms of media.

Emiat

really makes you think, don't it.

hmm, i guess not.

Capt Castellanos

@KeroseneClimax: But the fact Custer's Revenge might still raise some eyebrows is because at the time some people said it features rape from what you do see in the game along with the pixel nudity and such.

Manhunt on the other hand is just another in the long line of games to push the boundary of violence that can be gotten away with in games.

I'm sure if some of the content in Cluster's Revenge (like the nudity and the sex scenes) were in most of the games out now then people would learn to just accept it as a genre of games. But because it isn't as widespread in games over in the west (if at all) as violence is in games, it does still raise some eyebrows on the subject.

Emiat

Maybe I'm just a teeth-grindingly angry person but it never ceases to anger me when anything like this is spoken about. My opinion about the normal social taboos in (American) society stem from the fact that the country was founded by a bunch of sissies. And that sissy-ness has simply trickled down to get it's pink and flowery claws into every aspect of American stupidity. Primarily when it comes to the more normal aspects of life sex and language being the two that never fail to put my teeth on edge. Ignoring the fact that violence, and drugs are (sadly) a daily part of everyone's life no matter where you live on the planet. Even if you aren't effected by them directly there are indirect consequences that sweep across the planet even if the American belief is disgustingly child-like in it's belief that if you don't talk about it, you don't hear about it, or you don't see it then it can't possibly exist!

Problem with that is that violence, drugs, sex and all of those things that Americans have an apoplectic fit over are all seen on... the 6 o'clock news! But the kiddies don't watch the news, right? Nope! They watch cartoons, good... whole-some cartoons that feature murder, drugs, gang beatings, crime..wait. Oh! It's alright, it's just "Batman: The Animated Series!" It' perfectly acceptable.

What's this?! Someone is beating someone to death in a barely recognizable 8 bit setting?!! OUTRAGE!

Vezroth

It's interesting to look back at what was once considered "edgy." Mortal Kombat doesn't have the same amount of shock value it used to, in my opinion. Yet when I bought 3 for the DS not too long ago, I was carded. Interesting how things come full circle.

It's probably just because I've never seen the original, but I really want to see the remake. It's a retarded action movie with explosions and Jason Stathom. What could possibly be un-awesome about that?

Thorax

@Witzbold:

Right? I loved the original. Then I saw the trailer for the remake, why the fuck are they even calling it Death Race? It has entirely nothing to do with the original and spits in the face of everything the original was trying to do.

Oh wait, there's navigators. My bad.

RonCey

As time passes, so does tolerance to formally perceived obscenity. People went apeshit over Elvis Presley's antics while performing back in the 50's, but when you compare it to what we're used to seeing today, he was barely PG rated. Games are no different. It takes a title like Manhunt to get a rise out of people today, but, then again, Custer's Revenge can still raise a few eyebrows today on premise alone. I guess some controversies are timeless, while others are destined to simply fade away with every new generation of people.

KeroseneClimax

*Stares at news title*

Damn, I was thinking Death Rally.

*Walks away with head hung in disappointment*

Sneakiest

Ah, Death Race 2000. I loved that movie. Then 2000 came, and like so many other things, I was severely disappointed.

DocRimbo

Our American forfathers were sissies? Dude your a retard

davahsa

The new Death Race Movie is a huge load of steaming crap on the face of Death Race 2000. The stories different, the characters are different, the racing is a whole different purpose.

I'm going to miss Machine Gun Joe blasting the audience on the bleachers with a tommy gun.
I'm going to miss Frankenstein taking a detour to run over a shit load of nurses for quality points.
I'm going to miss the hot babes in tight revealing uniform (OOOHH how i loved the babes).
And I'm going to miss the purpose of the corrupt nation willing to give their own lives so a racer can win.

This movie is more-less a game related movie on Vigilante 8 or Twisted Metal... For shaaaame. ='(

King Seafoam

@RonCey: I was at least hoping that they would keep euthanasia day in there

Makidian

The orginal Death Race? A parody of America's need for over the top action.
The new Death Race? CARS WITH GUNS!!! THINGS GO BOOM!
Seriously... They are completely missing the point by calling this new movie deathrace... but of course the American public will lap it up because they need over the top action... Im not sure if it's irony but it's damn well idiotic.

Koolsen

@davahsa:

I don't think you understood what I meant by that. Their moral attitudes were so far to the right that they had fallen off the edge of the map. If you payed attention to the history lessons they left for America because of their devout religious beliefs, I'm not certain if you're keeping up with current day events but religious beliefs are fine, extremists are not.

They murdered dozens of their own people simply for believing differently than they did and wiped out entire cultures because of that. I could have a seriously extended discussion on the history of America, but I'll leave it at my belief that the American Fore-Fathers were sissies that hid behind their religious beliefs to try and bend a developing country over backwards for their own narrow-minded beliefs.

Vezroth

@King Seafoam: @Koolsen: lol, i just saw the movie for the first time today but i really didnt see the same movie that u've described. i saw a movie with weak characterization, laughable villans and weak plot. Now it was entertaining as hell, but its not as good or thematic as you seem to imply it is

machine gun joe shot into the audience but no one died. wth, that was sooooo not badass

anyways, back on topic, i never heard of this controversy, it strikes me as ironic that the game got singled out as being violent with the kind of movies that they had back then.

meltyman

I'm amazed people thought that the new Death Race would be anything except a retarded action movie. I mean, this is Anderson we're talking about. His entire career is punctuated by laughably bad action movies. The man is completely incapable of anything else.

It would of been nice if they actually got a competent director and made something more inline with the original. Sadly we live in a world were a studio is more concerned with making a mind numbing action flick then actually growing a pair, hence what they have done to Death Race and Bangkok Dangerous (dear lord don't get me started on Bangkok Dangerous. NICHOLAS FUCKING CAGE ARE YOU SERIOUS?!?)

Thorax

@Thorax: Well, we can always hope. I also think Nicholas Cage is one of those actors, like Statham, that just guarantees a bad movie, with maybe a few rare exceptions. And in that same light, what the hell man?!

Erwin

@Erwin: Hey now. Statham is a quality action movie actor. However, he's just that: an action movie actor. If the action's not good, they don't look good. If it's not an action movie... well, then you end up with something like this wonderful epic.

Ampillion, Dayman. Fighter of the Nightman.

Death Race was fun, and I remember it being more difficult than one would think from the explanation and the screenshot.

Interesting that I can't go backward in terms of enjoying modern games -- I couldn't enjoy Vice City, having done San Andreas first -- yet there are so many games from the primitive graphics era that were totally engaging, and immersive in their own way...

Also, my b retard beats your a retard.

Campion of Drymouth

The flash game reminds me of F-Zero, except 50 times worse.

everybest

Bah, Death Race ain't a wart on Night Trap's ASS. Now there's a game that got old people flailin' their arms around in a tizzy.

Also, Death Race remake fails without Stallone.

KaneRobot

@Erwin: why oh why did you have to subject me to such torture, that's a guaranteed bad movie.

stryker1800

Part of my senior thesis was about this game and the controversy surrounding it. Good times.

Grodoro

@Erwin: NOLAN BUSHNELL!?!?

Yeah, that's a little bit of weird casting right there.

Thorax

@Thorax:

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Billkwando

@Erwin:

development haunted by spiders? incredbile!

kyle

A Hand Grenade!!

behrens14

There's always going to be something for the older generation to blame shift social mores upon.

It doesn't matter if it's alcohol, evolution, comic books, Jerry Lee Lewis' "rock n' roll" music, touch-dancing, Elvis Presley's appearance on the Ed Sullivan show, long hair, miniskirts, bell-bottomed jeans, marijuana cigarettes, heavy metal music, Dungeons and Dragons, arcades, rap music, violence in movies, profanity in music, hip-hop music, obscenity on television, Beavis & Butthead, South Park, the Simpsons, evolution (I know I said that before), or even violent video games.

If it's new and different and the youth of America loves it, the old guard will be against it.

OMG! Ponies!

@King Seafoam: As long as there are still boobies ^^

Neocorey

@OMG! Ponies!: And remember, it is generational. As in the young people today will be the old, complainin' farts of tomorrow. Speaking of which, this old fart still has his copies of the unlicensed NES Death Race, Carmageddon and Death Race 2000 DVD (cheapie 1.00 PD copy ^_^).

relic1980

Dude we need a Bionic Commando Rearmed style remake for this game. I honestly think Rockstar could do an awesome fucking job on this if they had the license

Kounji

@meltyman: Hah- well yeah the acting was pretty bad and some of it was cheesey, but c'mon. It's the statement of the movie that counts. That movie had a genuine feel to it that I would had loved to see recreated into this generation (The right way). Now-a-days all were starting to get are some really lame flicks Like The Happening. "Oh no's- Something strange is happening to everyone in teh Americas! What? Now its gone to Iran and Paris?!"

King Seafoam

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@DocRimbo: Just like how Escape from New York took place in 1997 :D

vactoxic

@Witzbold:

I 100% agree with you, I saw the trailer for the new movie and it definately has nothing in common with the old one except for the name.

If they called this movie Full Auto and marketed it as a game tie in it could've worked.

No Frankenstein, No "Hand Grenade", and no mechanical arm that could shift gears 3/4 of a second faster than the fastest human being? Then it's not DEATH RACE!!!!

vactoxic

Here's a scene from the original Death Race movie.

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Keep in mind, this is just the first random clip I could find.

And the game is violent and subversive?

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