@liquidnumb: Actually, it IS more work because they are using a brand new engine for it, so those problems don't actually exist naturally. Part of what they are doing is actually going in and deliberately programming these bugs in. So they really are doing more work by putting them in there, which I think is completely awesome.

Joebob-X

@mikepetel: That thing sorta reminds me of Fry Guy, the boss from Super Mario Bros 2.

[nindb.classicgaming.gamespy.com]

MeleeKirby

I regret not playing enough Mega Man titles.. I played some of them, but either I erased them from my memory or I blacked out from sheer anger due to some of the levels.

GummyTumor

That's a nice touch. I'm impressed. I like the fact that it's also going to be an option too.

Ryodestined

See? This is why Megaman is still awesome to this day.
@All the haters: You guys don't seem to get that it's optional. They are adding optional glitches as a nostalgic touch. Capcom is just replicating the vintage gaming experience for those of us who still play our NESes to this day.

TheCleaningGuy

Why is the fireball wearing glasses?

mikepetel

@feartheraven:

Genesis, which might explain a whole lot.

Redface

I love this idea. Don't the Japanese love this sort of thing in games? Glitches I mean?

Nickatiah

@Redface:
i was born in '91 too.... and megaman is still my favorite series of all time. don't be such a nub, let me guess, your first console was the playstation?

feartheraven

Haha, that's pretty cool. I hope they'll get it to look realistic enough.

Jorw

The more I hear about this game, the less interested I am in playing it.

Rhainor

I don't see why people, especially those who were old enough to play the original Mega Man games, find this a pointless addition. Sure it doesn't enhance the gameplay in any way, but it shows that Capcom's going that extra mile to pay even more homage to the retro NES titles that started it all. And in the end, isn't that what Mega Man 9 is really all about anyway - as a tribute to gamers who feel nostalgic when playing Mega Man 1 or 2?

Besides, it's just an -option-, if you don't like it, don't use it. Be thankful they give you the choice rather than forcing it upon you like it's 1987.

MeleeKirby

That's pretty damn cool, but I don't see myself ever turning the feature on.

KainReborn

@Redface: I think what he is getting at is that, of course this "retro wankery" doesn't do anything for you. It's not for you. The option is there for people who remember playing MegaMan games on the NES with screen flicker and occasional slow down.

JustinS

@Redface:
@Kyattsuai:
Maybe it's because I work in development, but I'm fairly certain it's LESS work to just leave that stuff in.

liquidnumb

I think this sort of proves that they really are putting a lot of hard work into this game instead of crapping out a poorly made game using bad graphics as an excuse to not do work.

This game is legit. I'm buying on day one.

SlapStic.com

@exobyte0:

Makes sense to me. I don't know what you're getting at, maybe it's just me.

Redface

'84, and ditto. that option is pretty hawt. I'd totally enable it

amost

Whoa....I didn't think this game could get any cooler, but Capcom has found yet another way. This game can't come out soon enough =)

I'm guessing that all original NES players will at least try this glitchy option for giggles and most younger players will probably think of course that we are ridiculous.

goomba478

@Redface:

Wait... nostalga that predates you doesn't resonate with you? Could you explain that again, more slowly, for yourself please? You'll catch on eventually.

exobyte0

?@Superstar90:
@AlKusanagi:

Blowing in your games? Throwing controllers? You people are monsters.

warrenlee

'84 here and I'm all for this. It's kinda cute.

elevenoverzero

Isnt this just like buying a current version of an EA Sports game?

JesseLacey

Awesome, I totally dig slowdown and black lines usually caused by enemy projectiles

PsycheE

@Talleh: These are no more bugs than a big head cheat or black and white mode in a game. They aren't actual glitches. This is like sprite animation flicker, nothing more.

Erwin

This is like the anti-PS3 game. lol

Jedi924

@Redface: I'm '92 here and I can still appreciate these small touches, but then again I didn't get an N64 'til like 2000 and until then all I had was an NES. lol

Fadakar

whew, good thing its an option and not an imposed "mistake" for the sake of a full retro experience.

Alex_Mexico

Shame Nintendo didn't keep most of their games the same for when they put them on the Virtual Console.
The fact Peppy doesn't say 'Do a Barrel Roll!' in StarFox 64 put me off buying the game on the Wii, so the fact some developers are going out of their way to just include these minor details in their games just shows how much they want to give the player the feeling of the original game even on a newer console.

Emiat

That's either a boss or a giant flickering line on my screen

Len Bias Cocaine Surplus

Now I can blame easily missed jumps on screen flicker again, thank god!

Erwin

@Redface: Yeah, I understand where you're coming from (after all, I never had a hard on for stuff like Pong and those simple games), but it's still a nice gesture for the older gamers like us.

Drake Lake: Hot Cakes

Wow, going out of their way to make glitches and graphical errors - it's like Tim and Eric Awesome Show, Great Job! the Video Game.

Kyattsuai

I'd like not to buy a product with bugs inserted in.

Talleh

Will it come with new, smaller, more throwable controllers? Because I remember controller flinging to be a large part of my early gaming years and current gen ones could do some serious damage to my walls.

AlKusanagi

It will freeze on your last level prompting you to hit restart with a big, long *sigh*

kingofrain

Maybe it's because I'm new school, maybe it's because I was born in '91, but all this retro wankery does nothing beside induce a mighty yawn out of me. Still, I'm pretty stoked for this game.

Redface

I would use it.

r0bVious

heh pretty cool to have as an option

resetbutton

Awesome. :D

Dragoonkin

Would be odd if they put in the glitch like the first MM...

=P I could imagine beating a boss by spamming Pause.

-_- But these bugs are cool too

Megan Fox Iz Hot! ^-^ - ph15h

Neat. Gimmicky and will be largely unused, but neat.

Setzer IIDX

maybe we will also have to blow into the wii disc drive to make it work!

Superstar90

I think that's a really nice touch

Ollivander

Aww sweet!!
Can we have an option for us even older gamers to sit and alter the volume in teeny tiny increments, wait for ages and then swear when the damn thing doesn't load?

Weirdwolf

Everyone has caught the retro bug and it is driving me crazy. Sure I got a brand new Mega Man 2 cart for Christmas in '89 and played the hell out of it but when the new systems came out I have always embraced them. Call me crazy but I have never once thought to myself that X game would be better with flashes, glitches, MIDI sound, slowdown or freezes.

Look at my avatar Capcom, that is how you remake retro without using any gimmicks.

iamspoo

For some, this update couldn't be more proper :D

Tubatic

Stupid idea... and this retro argument is only a poor excuse for not giving the game a proper update.

Garo

This really just makes me smile!

They really are going out of their way to drive the point home.

This is kind of akin to Grindhouse at this point: Its new content that's getting some special treatment (video game destressing? shabby chic would be proud . . .) to recreate the old experience of playing NES games.

If the game fakes a freeze up at the beginning every third time I try to play it, I may write a love letter.

Tubatic

This is a terrific little gag. For those of you who are new school, don't worry about it... it's simply a nostalgia option for us NES geezers.

jerimas

@Emiat:

Um, he does, a lot. Where the hell did you hear that?

Retro is cool, but there better be some creativity involved as well.

metaslugx

Awesome idea. I think when (if) they remake FFVII they should leave in all the original typos as well. Now *that* is fan service.

sircuddles

@Superstar90: XD that would be majorly awesome.

@TheIrishNinja: Don't worry about it we all have our quirks.

How deep is this going to go? Like they are seriously putting major commitment into this game. They are researching all of their old stuff and seeing what they can bring back...

s0nlxaftrsh0ck

@Kia: i think you nailed it on the head with "born in '85". you're talking about box art and again, options, to make it more old-school like.
i may not've been around much for say, 8-tracks, but i can dig nostalgia.

TheIrishNinja

@mikepetel: because he's so hot, he's cool. so cool...he's hot.

TheIrishNinja

Born in '85 here and I just want to stab someone at Capcom for thinking this up. I -love- 2-D gaming, but this is complete trash. The boxart, the glitches, every time I hear about this game I want to put my head through a wall.

Real shame, too, I'm a huge Mega Man fan...Nice going, Capcom. I can't believe people are eating this crap up.

Kia

wow, you know, i wasnt totally on board with this before, price-wise, but for some reason? screen flicker nostalgia may sell me here.
im such an odd fucking consumer.

TheIrishNinja

What I really hate is that in addition to making me want to buy Mega Man 9, this also makes me want to go buy Mega Man Anniversary Collection again.

SuperFox

Megaman 9 is a special treat for those with fond memories of Megaman games on the NES. (Of course, newcomers are always welcome).

But why the hate from people on the optional flickering for those of us that remember it?

BlueFiberOptics

well, i played the old nes mega man games, yet i really dont care that much about all these nostalgic touches, like the box art (which was a weird choice. since though mega man 3 and up had more accurate depictions of mega man, why go back to the 1/2 style. did the 3 and up box arts mean nothing?) and this. ah well. as long as the game turns out fine, and they add jet mega man, ill be happy.

bigman88zz

This is the most insane fanservice I've ever seen.

At least we won't have to deal with the sort of people who complain about film remakes because it's not the exact same movie, right?

urutapu

Hehe... It would be fun to marathon all the previous titles back-to-back, building up to the first play-through of this, with the glitches turned on. That would kind of rock.

Uzumaki_Kiba

Is it sad that I'm more excited for an 8-bit game than I am for many other games coming out soon?

More like Gears of Who and Resistance: Fall of What? All I need is my MegaMan 9!

DirtySyko

Friggin awesome, recreating the feeling of old school almost entirely. Need the game to stop working at times though.

Gam3r

I can't friggin wait for this game. It's (Take)shit(a) hot.

/Sorry for making the same joke that everyone else makes about that poor guy's name.

Rocci1212

So awesome

Struct09

You should have a warning on this game.. born after 1980 you just won't understand..

xpnet

Goofiest thing I've ever heard :P

copet

@Garo: 1) its an "option". 2) how do you update an all-new game?

TheIrishNinja

How can you not be excited for this game by now? Honestly!

Aparanoidandroi

@AlKusanagi: Hah, I used to fling my NES controller as if I could make Mario or Mega Man jump over a hole higher or something, sometimes yanking the console off the shelf. But, luckily today's controllers are wireless, and flinging is actually encouraged on 2 different consoles.

meatee

@warrenlee: Obviously you didn't grow up in the NES era. After a couple of years, blowing into cartridges was the only way to get them to work half the time. And thrown controllers? Occupational hazard.

AlKusanagi

@Megan Fox Iz Hot! ^-^ - ph15h: You never know, that may just be a possibility!

meatee

Can someone add the option for no flickering and slowdown to Odin Sphere?

FightingChance

This is actually pretty cool. I still would've liked a graphical revamp, but it's obvious that Capcom is going for a completely retro experience with this, so in that respect they're doing a wonderful job.
Maybe in the next Mega Man we can get the same quality gameplay but with some awesome artistic character designs and backgrounds.

Blah8

haha oh man, thats pretty cool. Will make the nostalgia factor shoot up!

thesilentcircus

@xpnet: Born in 86, and I completely understand. I started gaming ridiculously early, so I fully appreciate the NES throwbacks.

I hope there's an option for the text and scenery to come up as random sprite chunks once every ten times you load up the game. :D

ShaggE

Also, I have to add: I think Mega Man 2 was one of the best 8-bit games on the NES (and in my opinion, the best of the series). Here's hoping that somehow, someway, Mega Man 9 surpasses it.

jerimas

...WHY IN THE HELL WOULD YOU MAKE THIS AN OPTION?!?!?!?

Enigma_20XX

C'mon pause timing trick!

Channing

they should also include a microphone to blow the dust out of the cartridge.

w1ndwaker

@Joebob-X: I'm really courious about what type of engine they're using. It's looking more and more likely that they made an actuall NES game running in an emulator. It's looking a bit too autentic, and there's some limitations that seems strange that they would impose on themself for no reason. If that's the case they are my new heroes.

beril

I was born in 1979, played, enjoyed and completed some of the mega man games on my NES. I don't understand why anyone would want those old glitches in a modern game. They annoyed me back then, they will look even worse now!

I've posted in quite a few of these megaman threads. I guess I must just be growing out of gaming as I'm in the minority in thinking this whole idea is just crap.

IronsUK

@TheIrishNinja: born in 8(whatever) and I can tell you that I frikken love 8 tracks now more than when I heard it as a kid. I can appreciate the way the low frequencies resonate similar to vynal does. Cassettes were always better for portability and ease of use but 8 track sounded really good. Cd's ,eh, debatable.

Maybe I just love old stuff more than new but MM 9 as an old school NES game with Glitches optional(good move) is great fan service by a company that gets it. Between this and Bionic Commando rearmed I can't wait till the middle of the month. Unless they delay it again! Argh!

Netnavi

@Enigma_20XX: please refer to @xpnet: this guys post.

TheIrishNinja

@TheIrishNinja:
I'm referring to the art.

Garo

@TheIrishNinja:
The same way as Castlevania X, Bionic Commando and 1942 - Joint Strike.

Garo

Now all they have to do is release it when they say it's gonna be released, and that'd be awesome!

Toastbusters

@beril: Unlikely. First of all that would make it hard to release it on 360 and PS3, as Nintendo would have to allow thm to emulate the NES. Second, it wouldn't be able to do widesreen or progressive scan, possibly causing problems with otput.

Kotakufan777

Um, how about as a next game they make Cheetah Men 3 with an option to turn bugs that make it unfinishable on?

Zorba

BTW, these kind of glitches are on Virtual Console titles, without the ability to turn them off.

Kotakufan777

AWE-SOME-NESS.

most NES emulators on PC have some function to bypass the NES's sprite limits that caused the blinking and half-drawn stuff, I usually turn it off (unless it gets really bad). I see this as an equivalent

Oldschool FTW!

Inzoum

@jerimas: it's tough to top the music of metal-, air-, wood-, flash-, quick- & bubble man. and ofc dr.wily stage 1.
if it can top this, then it's the better game, but I highly doubt it can somehows.

Elrinth

I'll probably turn it on at least on my first playthrough just for that retro experience. But I can't see myself keeping it on for every playthrough.

kojirodensetsu

I thank Capcom for this feature. I'm one of the guys who grew up with the NES and still have one in my room so I can play it any time. A feature like this is icing on the cake.

But as I saw a few other people say in a few other topics: I'd love it if they'd do a limited edition release of this game on an honest to god NES cart.

Akanubon

@Redface:

You're probably just not ready :)

Personally, although I like the glitches, I wouldn't be happy if they weren't optional.

Now, I'd be even more impressed if they made an actual NES or Famicom cart. That would be absolutely beast.

L___E___T

Released... err I mean born in '91. In the past year I've bought 2 vinyls, an N64 (and about 6 games), A GameBoy game, and other retro stuff I probably shouldn't be interested in :P

At least there's the option to turn the bugs off... not like Vista (come on, someone had to say it!)

Mrrix32

Ah, clever! But no thanks, I ll rahter play flicker free, i.e. with nom-limited sprites per line, witch was the original cause of the NES famous flicker bug. some emulators already have this option available, makes the games far preetier (even if a bit fake from the original), so ill be playing this one with flicker off. Thanks for leavign the option/choice to us, Capcom.

Shiryu

Flicker and slowdown is a little too nostalgic for my tastes.

SAKY

@Talleh: Not a bug. A feature. And one you can turn off.

TRT-X

@Talleh: And I'd like you to not comment if you don't comprehend the post. It's an option, turn it off and the product you bought, surprise, has no bugs!

This is pretty awesome. Not sure if I want it yet.

karasu is my homeboy

man, you guys are spoiled. They give you OPTIONS and you complain.

ankylo

sounds retarded.

pasquinelli

Definitely enabling that option. Nostalgiaaaa!

BlkMagik07

You guys are all babies...literally. Born in '75. MM9 is gonna be too legit to quit.

Hoagie_one

@Redface: @feartheraven: You youngin's better make way for us 80s Kids!

ヨシダさん 25

Nice... Lots of people are more heavily into retrogames than modern, but I didn't think anyone would have the guts to make a modern commercial game so retro.

I love the retro comeback because it's just more variety in play styles that there wasn't really a great reason to give up on. No reason not to have the best of old and new now!

fuchikoma

@JesseLacey:

No, not at all. This is better still

mascot1063

@ankylo:

I want you to think LONG and HARD about this... there is an option... to TURN on a GAME GLITCH.

WHY is there an option to turn on a game glitch?

Enigma_20XX

im old, i can remember slow down and flicker in many a game (though never activision!!)

i was hoping to see some stages in the game where we would see something like 60 sprites on screen at once with no flicker or slow down . but if the option to add slowdown will be there, i doubt that is going to happen.

lets hope for megaman x9 for the 16 bit style next year

kenesu96

@TheIrishNinja:

NEITHER of you are allowed to complain about faulty games ever again.

Enigma_20XX

I am a huge retro fan whose first system was the 2600, but flicker is not something I miss. I play my NES games frequently and I have never wished that my other systems had flicker. It is neat that this is a feature for faux authenticity (even though it is really the opposite of authentic), but I would not use it myself. I am not condemning people who would want to use it. Maybe when modern games have slowdown or dropped frame rates, they can call it a feature.

kingofallcosmos

Now the important question is, did they do the music using triangle and square waves? The Megaman series always had the best NES music.

I have the bubbleman remix "Teardrinker" [www.ocremix.org] on my MP3 player that I listen to whenever I feel nostalgic. Here's hoping MM9 sounds as good.

alzheimers

@Enigma_20XX:
Because they're not serious, game breaking glitches. They're extra touches for those of us that can look back on our childhood and fondly remember almost destroying your controller after a combination of flicker and slowdown caused you to miss that disappearing block in Iceman's stage for the fifth time.

Thank you, Capcom. I shall gladly devote at least one play through of this to NES glitch mode.

Helkaurain

I can't believe you guys haven't figured this out yet. Mega man 9 is probably gonna run on a nes emulator, that's why there are optional glitches. This could very well be the cheapest game capcom has ever made!

HowardC

While it's a bit gimmicky (as most gamers would prefer NOT to deal with that kind of garbage), it's nice that they're not forcing those "quirks" on us.

TStodden

@IronsUK: No, I completely agree with you.

First, let me say this: I have no problem with them including this, especially since it's optional. According to this thread, a lot of people will enjoy it.

However:

I played the hell out of the Mega Man series. Especially Mega Man 2. But in no way, shape or form do I miss MIDI soundtracks, flashing sprites, slowdown, etc. Yes, I still love the sometimes agonizingly unforgiving gameplay, but I would have really like it if they had decided to make Mega Man 9 in HD with modern audio and kept the same classic Mega Man gameplay.

It was amazing how much I loved the Mega Man 2 soundtrack. (Dr. Wily Fortress Level 1 was my favorite...oh my god. So good!) But I was always longing for the day when all games could have real music and not the synthesized stuff. I had many conversations with a friend longing for the day when Final Fantasy would be able to use a real orchestra for their fantastic music.

I guess I can be nostalgic about gameplay, but out-dated graphics and audio don't really do it for me. =P I'm such a cold-hearted bastard.

Falcon

@Enigma_20XX: faulty game does not equal option for retro shit.
its no different than uncharted having a "next gen filter" that turns the game brown, or SSFII Turbo for SNES keeping the odd red fireball from ryu in there randomly to emulate the glitch from the arcade.
you're, again, complaining about an option that's purposely there to fit the retro scheme that clearly outdates you.

TheIrishNinja

@Garo: oh, alright, guess the art's not for everyone.
but still, bionic commando and the like are remakes, if this is a new game, im still not sure that applies. i figure youre just saying why do it 8-bit at all then, when the answer (presumably) is retro value, aside from pleasant production costs on their end, heh.

TheIrishNinja

@HowardC:

if you haven't figured out that they don't care, lemme go ahead and tell you...

... they don't care.

Enigma_20XX

@Helkaurain:

That's the most pathetic excuse I've ever heard...

@TheIrishNinja: IT'S AN OPTION TO TURN A CHEAPLY MADE 8-BIT GAME INTO A CHEAPLY MADE, GLITCHY 8-BIT GAME, YOU MORON!!!! And do you know how old I am, boy?

if they put so much effort into adding this "feature," you'd think they'd put a little more effort into the game, period! Good god, they could have done Mega Man Powered Up 2!!!

Enigma_20XX

WTF? Since when were glitches a perk to help sell your game? I think this may be the first time anybody in history has ever tried to point out that their game includes glitches, and that's a good reason for you to buy it. Yeah these guys have gone a little off the deep end.

WPack911

Megaman 4 remains the musically best one to my tastes.

Skull man made me love video game music.

MonsterKingRen

@TheIrishNinja:

"i figure youre just saying why do it 8-bit at all then, when the answer (presumably) is retro value, aside from pleasant production costs on their end, heh."

Ahhh... so you DO realize the truth behind this "nostalgia..."

Enigma_20XX

@MonsterKingRen:

Actually, ALL the Mega Man music gives me a warm feeling inside...

Quick Man and Spark Man ftw...

Enigma_20XX

@Enigma_20XX: Oh look, a guy complaining about a new game and then prompting that they should instead be doing a remake... is that just slightly ironic? kids these days...

Shaoko

I used to bitch, bitch and bitch about this game, but since the boxart, I find all of this a truly genius sense of humor from Capcom.

Ashurahori

Part of me is excited for this game. Most of me wishes they used high-res 2D hand-drawn graphics and an orchestral soundtrack. With NES game mechanics. Now THAT would be mind-blowing.

Still, if the price is right, I will buy.

topraman517

color me intrigued.

sivatco

Why would anyone complain about this? The idea is to recreate the experience of the classic Mega Man games. I think that sort of aesthetic decision goes a long way. And if you don't like it, turn it off.

Zorantor

So it'll couple a "No ability to Save" option with a "Horrible Game-Crashing Bug that occurs if you do something slightly off on the final level" option, right?

Ad-hominem

Well obviously they would have to. Those NES bugs were so numerous that they became an actual part of Megaman gameplay. You know how you can sometimes get an enemy to walk off the screen and disappear. Me and my friends call that "RAM killing."

digamma

can i still have my little brother hold down left and b (or whatever it was) to get the super high jumps and not die when i fall into the pits?

BurnZ_

@Shaoko: You do realize, smartass, that I only have a problem with the EIGHT-BIT GRAPHICS, right?

Or are you a smartass because your head is wedged up there?

Enigma_20XX