I always wanted to like Bionic Commando. I could never stop trying to jump though.

luigiman0

@ShadowXion: You think someone would spend $10 on a game, then spend $5 on the game it was a remake of?

Torgen got his apology faceplate but not his fixed GH3 disc

@Torgen got his apology faceplate but not his fixed GH3 disc:

You'd be surprised by how much nostalgia and roots curiosity sell VC titles.

ShadowXion

fuck this.

thank god im getting my NES repaired, i'm pickin it up tomm. i have a working copy of BC in the hizzle.

zanzibarlegend

@ShadowXion: I'm pretty sure more people would go the other way.

Torgen got his apology faceplate but not his fixed GH3 disc

Is the reasoning behind the blocking really about Nazis? Because if I remember wasn't the original game already censored to not reference Nazis already? It seems to me that there is some other reason Nintendo won't allow this. But Capcom won't say.

jive238

Actually, BECAUSE of the release of Bionic Commando and Reloaded it would make sense for Nintendo to release the 8-bit version. People that played the remake and new game would be more interested in checking out the original more then ever.

But reasons for Nintendo not allowing it on the VC probably diver deeper then any of us could begin to comprehend. You might think it was something logical keeping the game from coming to the VC. But no, you can bet it has something to do with "over cautious guys in suits," AKA lawyers.

ShadowXion

@Sheen_Latrine: Everybody but me knew lol.

Suda51

Who explicitly said Nintendo themselves blocked it? Not Ben Judd. Read the quote again - it could have very well been Capcom themselves who didn't want to spend the money to re-certify it, or Capcom not wanting to spend the money to scrub Hitler's visage from the ROM to meet Nintendo's satisfaction. I doubt it's as cut and dry as Nintendo saying 'no'.

I know Nintendo-hating is the cool thing to do on the internet nowdays, but unless Judd comes out and says otherwise, you can infer all kinds of things from his vague response.

djsyndrome

It sucks for us but I can't blame Nintendo for not wanting VC to be used to promote a new series of Bionic Commando games made for seemingly everything but Nintendo's systems.

ridleysaria

@Alex_Mexico: Oh Nintendo, you and your silly lolgic.

Composition94

My only guess as to why they blocked this game has to tie in with Bionic Commando and Reloaded. Neither are coming to a Nintendo console, so why would Nintendo want to advertise a product on the competition? A dick move, but one I can SORTA understand... doesn't lessen the sting any, though.

RPGuy

I doubt its the Nazis, its more like "you're not releasing any new Bionic Commando on my systems? ha! you wont be able to release classic BC then... I WIN" kind of thing.

Alex_Mexico

lol silly Nintendo and their hatred of everything awesome =p

screwsociety

i just wanna say WTF to ducks ahoy? why the fuck cant' the ducks simply FLOAT on the water? and what does that hippopotamus have against your boat? did it injure his manatee friend?

demonknightinuyasha

bwaa?

vonfaustus

Nintendo only blocked it because they did not want to help the sales of the new retail Bionic Commando game. HELLLOOOOOOOOOOOO...

Gam3r

Nazis. I hate those guys.

Yonderboy

They release Call of Duty 3 on their platform, but no Bionic Commando? I am shocked and bewildered good sirs.

Composition94

@Ampillion, Dayman. Fighter of the Nightman.:

No offense good sir, but I for the life of me can't figure out how Bionic Commando would frustrate you more than the original Ninja Gaiden titles. That is just ridiculous. You can't possibly say that BC was harder than Ninja Gaiden 3...

Sheen_Latrine

@Mister_CrazyGuy:

They did. Any young player would have absolutely no idea that they are killing Nazis. That's why it's such bullshit.

Sheen_Latrine

@okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under): This is just the NES rom, and quite frankly I wasn't a big fan of the game the first time around myself. Now, had they said that Nintendo cockblocked them on putting Rearmed on the system, I don't think there's anyone that should be happy... but quite frankly, I personally don't give a care about a game that frustrated me more than the original Ninja Gaiden titles.

Let me know Capcom when you put out those other two games you actually -did- some recent work on, and then I'll start worrying about it.

Ampillion, Dayman. Fighter of the Nightman.

That's weird. I thought they edited the American edition, though?

Mister_CrazyGuy

Not again twice. Nintendo of japan should be equal as Nintendo of America for release of VC games.

zkotaku

@Suda51: Here's the thing about that though:

We all know the American version replaced all Nazi references and called them Badds. The ONLY questionable thing is possibly the quote "You damn fool." Master-D's head exploding is also a something to consider. But, in the age of GTA, Halo, MGS, and anything else very adult oriented, I think that Nintendo should be more worried about their release of GTA Chinatown Wars or No More Heroes than an 8-bit head exploding.

Fuck, if they won't let an 8-bit head exploding head onto the Wii, then how the hell did they allow foulmouthed limb-slicing Travis god damn Touchdown on the Wii?

God damnit, Nintendo pisses me off.

Sheen_Latrine

I guess killing thousand of Nazis in thousands of WWII games is fine but when you do it on old gen consoles its a big no no. WTF!!!!

lurkingsalt

Nintendo doesn't care about gamers, as long as they're making cash, fuck the gamers.

I'm a depressed panda.

JuanMontoya

OK... I was being an asshat there. The fact is who would want to be compared to a fully realized HD version coming out on the 360, PS3, and PC. Granted their not the same game but that won't stop the internet. I don't think Nintendo fancies being the brunt of jokes.

okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under)

I really hate how Nintendo decides to be a parent to all who purchased Wii.

karasu is my homeboy

Hmmm... interesting. I'm sure Nintendo fans will approve of this. Who wants a shitty game like this on their system? I'm only going to buy this for the 360 because I'm being forced to. Apparently I have to vote yes with my wallet since it's $10 bucks.... not because it's good or anything. Nintendo saw this coming and said... nuh uh... not on our system! Good Job!

okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under)

Well, screw you very much Nintendo.

Thorax

You tried to get it to work? Well, fair enough. I'll try to have more respect for Nintendo.

digamma

Uh, this is to be expected. C'mon man, tons of Nazi's wont sit well with people. Just go play the ROM while your supposed to be writing articles instead telling Nintendo "this WOULD of been your 8 bucks."

Suda51

What a bunch of assburgers.

Sheen_Latrine

so....we have an excuse for this. whats the excuse for rearmed and the sequel not being on the wii?

bigman88zz

Once again the VC is proven a failure. I had hopes for the system, but every week more crap gets shoveled out.

Averus

It's fun and isn't made by Nintendo. That could be damaging to their first party monopoly. Nintendo fans can't be made aware of their options.

Snake726

@zanzibarlegend: The internet people...

There are sites that contain EVERY old game you ever played, and while your techincially pirating, its not like your hurting some imaginary sales. How else will I (theoretically) play genesis games on my DS? Or Neo Geo cabinet games? The best part is, you can save anytime, and NEVER have to blow!

Suda51

Killing nazis is bad. We shouldn't teach our kids to kill nazis. First Lego Indy and now this?

dowingba

thank god I sold my wii

Umenokouji Aoi

@Sheen_Latrine: I don't know what it was, but I just hated BC. I was young then, so I might've missed the point, but I just could never really achieve anything in it, and usually grapple hooked myself right into a bullet or something, got fed up, and tossed the controller aside.

This, coming from a guy who could get past those rocket bike stages in Battletoads. Go figure.

Ampillion, Dayman. Fighter of the Nightman.

@Weasel3689: Capcom says, "We want free money and free promotion for our upcoming PS360 games!" Nintendo replies, "No F'in way." makes sense to me.

Torgen got his apology faceplate but not his fixed GH3 disc

@Torgen got his apology faceplate but not his fixed GH3 disc:

How many times do I have to keep saying yes? I guess people wanting to check out an original 8-bit game even though there are remakes and sequels out there really would surprised you. Forget cost for a second and think of the driving power of nostalgia and roots curiosity. It's what the VC mostly lives off of.

Also, there is no risk to Nintendo. So the BC NES game gets people to check out the others. If Nintendo is that worried about something like that, then they should pull the Street Fighter games from the VC as well. I hear they have sequels and remakes on other consoles that other people might feel like checking out.

ShadowXion

Satoru Iwata is a nazi confirmed?

Seriously though, this makes no sense whatsoever!

Weasel3689

I'm pretty sure this was because Nintendo does not have the new Bionic Commando treatment, butthurt as it may be but still a "valid" reason why, and Nintendo may still be a little upset about the whole gamecube days "exclusivity".

And anyway as djsyndrome said he didn't said "Nintendo blocked us", he just said they did not get the approval, if they push harder they might get it though why would CAPCOM care if they are putting more emphasis over the 360 and PS3 game?

WDYC

@ShadowXion: Do you think more people would do that than would find out about the $10 remake from the release of the $5 orginal and buy the remake instead? And does Nintendo need to take that risk?

Torgen got his apology faceplate but not his fixed GH3 disc

Just download FireNES for Firefox and you can play over 1000 NES games straight off of your browser. Easy Cheese!

klitorisaurus

@Torgen got his apology faceplate but not his fixed GH3 disc: Yes. Again, you'd be surprised.

ShadowXion

ducks ahoy nothing. where are my c64 games??!? i want gribblies day out. scratch that, i want q games, the pixeljunk guys, to do a gribblies day out remix or sequel. That would be the pope's hotdog.

Polite Society

The new Bionic Commando not appearing on Nintendo most likely had nothing to do with their decision. I don't think that Nintendo would be too worried about accidentally promoting a game on another system.

After all, I seem to recall a certain stealth soldier appearing in a very Nintendo flavoured fighter right before his big PS3 outing.

Zorantor

@djsyndrome: If you read the 1-up article, it does sound like Nintendo didn't approve.

peacefuloutrage

+10 points to Gryffindor for applying "cock-block" expression in talk about games.

Barts

OMG all this hype about Bionic Commando didn't really get to me until I saw that NES screenshot. I beat this game several times back in the days, but I've never knew the title was indeed BC. As I said, it's really been a while. OMG, this is very exciting :)

Hey it's better late than never.

FinalFantasy7

For the same reason that Nintendo blocked Activision from releasing Goldeneye. When you see that their is a superior version on the other consoles then it makes the Wii look bad in comparison.

I'm Glad that Nintendo is scared of losing Capcom though. They would have stopped from allowing Acti to be a 3rd party had they released Goldeneye.

Nintendo has lost touch with most of the gamers that actually would buy both for nostalgia purposes. At least we still have Mega Man 9. But only because they look the same.

Netnavi

So Nintendo censors a game for portraying a political party that survived through censorship....hrmm...

TheXanadu

also, people would prefer the classic version on vc, that most of you probably own, or knowing half of the population here, can play for free with your various emulators, as opposed to the remake? wow. nostalgia is one hell of a drug.

bigman88zz

That just goes to show you what all this politically correct BS is doing to society. 20 years ago Nintendo was fine with Bionic Commando being on NES, and nothing bad came of it. Now here we are in the year 2008, and Nintendo can't allow Bionic Commando to be on Wii because if they do people will riot in the streets, the moon will turn blood red, and Hitler will be resurrected and ride on a giant fire breathing zebra exterminating everyone who doesn't wear Crocs.

mrplow8

Release Ducktales 1 and 2 on the VC and we will forgive you very much. And is there a U.S. release date for Megaman 9 yet?

shrek187

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but didn't Splatter House 2 come out on VC last week? Splatter House 2 is rated M. I've never played Bionic Commando before, but I'm sure that it's much tamer than Splatter House 2.

Takuthehedgehog

There sure are a lot of assumptions going on in these comments. Ben Judd's statements are incredibly vague (intentionally so, I'd wager) so it's unclear who said no and why. To everyone making the same old tired "WAAAH CENSORSHIP!" complaints, grow up. Bionic Commando never featured any Nazis in the first place - they were only included in the Japanese game which wasn't called Bionic Commando, it was called Top Secret: Resurrection of Hitler. So a VC release of Bionic Commando would be just that: Bionic Commando, and any "censorship" would have taken place twenty years ago. Personally, I think the move was a good one, because that way the last boss is a genuine surprise. If you play a game called Resurrection of Hitler, you can pretty much count on meeting Hitler at some point.

Speaking of which, what's the story behind that image in the story? Did someone photoshop the English text onto a Japanese screen shot, or is there a translated ROM floating out there?

feitclub

What is it with Nintendo blocking the release of GOOD games while shoveling out CRAP games every week?

Kytano-Skorpius

@shrek187: No Earthbound. This is still quite fucked up though. Not one M rated title on VC is there? Does Splatter House count?

s0nlxaftrsh0ck

Bill Lumburgh says: Ummm.... I think I'm gunna have to blame Cammie Dunaway on this one... Yeah... [grabs red stapler and walks away]

Soldier_CLE

C'mon guys this had nothing to do with Nazis. Nintendo is the most vindictive gaming company out there. They'd hate to release Bionic Commando and let it help sales on the new game that won't be for their console. I'm a Nintendo fanboy and even I can see this.

CaptainAtman

Too many assumptions here on what the real story is... we don't know and can only speculate.

I don't think it's censorship because it's just a NES game and the Wii has more violent games like No More Heroes.

And I don't think it's trying to avoid promotion of the new BC game. If they were this worried about the effect of a little old NES game, I doubt they would've had Snake (along with some direct MGS4 references) in Brawl.

So who knows... all we know is that they tried and failed to get it approved.

I never played the original BC myself... one of those games I was always aware of and knew it was considered good, but it never found its way into my NES.

Mezodon

Oh sure, 360, PS3, and PC get Bionic Commando and Bionic Commando: Rearmed but Wii don't even get the original?

WTF NINTENDO!?

MrMister

@bobtheduck: The game came out when I was 8. I never owned it, only rented, and I never bothered to go back and pick it up. Frankly, still don't think I'm missing much.

Ampillion, Dayman. Fighter of the Nightman.

@Ampillion, Dayman. Fighter of the Nightman.:

*facepalm*

Bionic Commando is NOT a difficult game... As far as NES games go, it's really... really freaking easy... Seriously, this is like one of the top 10 easiest games in the 8-bit era... Super Mario Brothers 3 was harder than this game. Hell, Super mario World was harder than this game...

Nintendo REALLY dropped the Ball on VC

Bionic Commando, Earthbound, Mother 1 plz... And an Atari 2600 emulator with some Activision games (Pitfall or River Raid) would be awesome, too... Charge a dollar a piece for the 2600 games, or maybe 2 dollars...

bobtheduck

@bobtheduck: I dunno, as I said in my recent post. I found it quite difficult going back to it, and I'm 27 now. My flat mate and a few buds tried to play it and they all got to about the second lvl before giving up.

furiku

I was getting tired waiting for it and now this! I'm glad I recently bought it for the NES. It is a really good game too, a bit harder than I remember it though. Shame it's not coming to VC :(

furiku

Umm... Who cares about Nazis? What about the fact that the remake of Bionic Commando won't be coming out for the Wii? C'mon people, not that hard.

Krustoff

Perhaps they are pissed because they don't get the remake?
Either way its a shame, they won't allow the original game on VC.

Yazuka

@Ampillion, Dayman. Fighter of the Nightman.: I was probably around that age when it came out... A bit younger, actually (6?) and it was one of two games that defined my childhood... That and Metal Gear...

bobtheduck

Put the original Bionic Commando on XBLA and PSN!

XbhaskarX

Nintendo is such a ball buster. I'm so close to selling my Wii right now. How could this happen. I used to be a big supporter and now they are really starting to make me sick. Oh well...BC rearmed on PSN works for me.

Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.

@ReisE: you people always crack me up. NEWSFLASH: Nintendo from the SNES generation was the Nintendo that got the blood removed from Mortal Kombat

excel_excel

Wow lots of speculation here, "oh noes nintendo fears teh nazis" and "nintendo won't approve free publicity for games not there own"

Er....there was a game called Smash Bros Brawl where a character called Snake appeared a few months before the release of the PS3's biggest game ever that he featured in.

People need to fucking grow up

excel_excel

I love how nintendo always wants to play big brother now. There worse then microsoft. I want nintendo from the snes generation and nes generation back! Not the pansies that run it these days. At least if there going to sit and release total crap like wii music let those of us that are a bit more "hardcore" get some good virtual console titles...

I bought a wii after leaving the console market since dreamcast. I'm starting to question that move. I been debating on selling it already and buying a PS3.

ReisE

@excel_excel: You expected better for some reason?

EmeraldDragon

@djsyndrome: The point is that Capcom shouldn't have to vet the game for Nintendo.

Not that it matters to me, of course. Just one less reason to ever turn my Wii on again.

RawSteelUT

How does Nintendo's American PR company not check these blogs every morning and fix this stuff. This does nothing but make Nintendo look bad and some of this stuff ends up getting picked up by the MSM.

Nintendo has the WORST PR in gaming. And some of the most clueless Western executives, as well.

ScottG13

I miss Ducks Ahoy. They should rerelease that game. It was and still is a great game.

rapt00r

The biggest problem was probably the size.. lol, Nintendo allowed stuff like No More Heroes and RE4 on the Wii.. they won't reject a game because of nazis and blood :P

CockroachMan

I am sick of censoring/banning! I thought the western world had escaped the idea of being told what we can and can't do!

CrazyBlue

Illinois Nazis?

On another note, moves like this make me feel much better for selling my $250 dust collector known as a Wii when the 60gig 360s come out.

Juthan

they already had it released on the NES, why block it now?

Scott3D

@ScottG13: That totally explains why they aren't making any money. What terrible PR! Surely they will fold before Q4...

I do agree with the western executive comment you made though. That does have potential to bite them in the arse sooner or later.

fugit

Ok i understand why it can't go on VC but man would i play Bionic Commando!

Cragnous

@Umenokouji Aoi: Thank God indeed - Nintendo doesn't need you to play the Wii.

ヨシダさん 25

RRRRAAAAAGGGGGEEEEEGEGGEEGGEE!!!1!111!
*head asplode*

MPgmr

Its the Golden eye thing all over again >:(

kablammyman

What in God's name are they thinking?? First Super Mario RPG... then Earthbound, and now BC! That's completely stupid! They're making some really bad choices as of late...

ViRiS

@bobtheduck: Eh, I was more into Bubble Bobble, Ninja Gaiden and Mega Man myself.

Ampillion, Dayman. Fighter of the Nightman.

its probably not getting a VC releace because or re-armed

CloudHiro

Come on only hardcore gamers and old school gamers will know what it is. Everybody else will be to busy with the Check Mii Out channel.

rob61920

And that's why Wii homebrew

KristenBal

Dude, WTF, I was looking forward to BC on the VC D:

BassForever

Nintendo is starting to upset me with its choices for the virtual console. Mainly because Earthbound has been ready for release for months and still nothing. It's like they're not satisfied with pissing on the hops and dreams of Earthbound fans and now they have to rub our faces in it while we're down.

Johnny_Under

Wow! Someone other than me remembers Ducks. I'm not sure if that is cool or just plain sad. :)

realjas

Maybe "You Damn Fool" was too vulgar.

Wubbytoes

What ticks me off is that they can't say why. It's probably an absurd reason. Unless it's a technical problem, there's no good reason for it to be held back. The content was good enough to release once, so it is good enough to release again.

Ryodestined

You'd think with all the recent bad PR Nintendo would be trying to avoid stepping on toes. Looks like the arrogance of Nintendo of old is alive and well.

MattB

@bobtheduck: Ok, I take it back. Sat down and finished the thing last night. A few bits were quite annoying, but managed to shoot that damn cockpit. Pretty easy actually.

furiku