Why do people make everything so adversarial? If a WAR trailer hits, it must be aggressively compared and contrasted with a WoW trailer. If someone talks about Saints Row 2, the merits of it versus GTA IV have to immediately be evoked. It's like we're irrational alpha males looking to takes sides on anything and voice our right-ness. Bizarre.

As for this trailer, I don't know. Neat, I guess, in the way that finding an old dollar bill in your winter coat pocket is neat: I don't need it, I wasn't looking for it, but I suppose, if it's here.

Bishmon

I love all of the subtle humor. The orcapult tossing an orc onto the rooftops at 2:25, the orc hammering the human into the steps by his torso, and of course the Squig Herder just being a funny little goblin.

WAR is worth a look, everybody, if only to see how PvP can be done right.

baberg

Just how do they get armor fitted on dragons anyway? I mean, do they take measurements of the dragon's head/neck, and then make the dragon go into a fitting room so it can try out what it likes? Does it stay still long enough for a group of dragon tailors to attach the armor? Do dragons even like armor on them, and do they even need it? I always thought dragon skin was tough by itself, and it seems like armor would just weigh it down. There must be a book on dragon fashion somewhere. Maybe a one of the scholars at Yahoo! Answers knows.

Crabfeast

@cyberdemon23:
@jihadjoe343:

Yeah because Lich King, SOOO much happened... OH WAIT.

Bitten_Dead

This matches up nicely to the first WoW trailer, similar "showcase" overtone compared to Wrath's trailer. This is just the sort of thing to attract newcomers to the franchise, while WLK's one is to grip people who are already fans of the series. My only gripe with this is that it didn't showcase a range of environments.

Ladi

@collusioned: Read the Lore? It's on the site. Worth it.

Bitten_Dead

@Jtn: Um I hope your joking? WoW's just left me saying "Eh.. not much happened". This one felt like a mini-movie lol. I really hope your joking (or your sense of cool is just twisted).But to each his own I suppose -_-...

Bitten_Dead

Also, I'm glad to see that the dwarfs seem to be more than just comic relief. That one with the shotgun, blowing away the Orcs one by one? Bad ass. If I play thins game, I'm definitely one of those guys. Although the Chaos warrior and the fire breathing wizard were awesome too. And what the hell was up with that goblin?

FreakyFavabean

I enjoyed this trailer much more than the Wrath of the Lich King trailer..

Zeiphor

Both impressive. Props to WAR for a cool, action filled opener, and props to Blizzard for the best looking cinematic ever. Period.

Noyse

Hm took you guys a while lol? Oh well. Still much better than WoW's. You guys are just being ignorant if you think WoW is actually better. They took what wasn't broken and added to it. Added ALOT to it. Unlike the toonyness of WoW, this has a darker feel to it. Unlike WoW's lore even they admit isn't even that good, this game's lore is amazing.
If you haven't played WoW and you think this isn't good, that's fine. But if your a fan of MMO's/WoW, it's just plain ignorant to call this game bad (Unless your not into pvp, in which case... u suck :P).

Bitten_Dead

While it definitely had action, it didn't really have as much of a 'coolness factor' as WoW's.

Jtn

Was cool... Not exactly sure what I just saw though...

collusioned

@Arahem: Meet the Sandvich definitely counts.

Siskoraban

I have no issues if they spend more time polishing the game than trying to directly compete with WotLK trailers and such.

Let's all complain some more.

SeedyROM

@jihadjoe343:
Boring? Really?
I don't even know how to respond to that.

FreakyFavabean

@MINIBOSS: I totally agree... while the trailer was neat. I was disappointed by the lack of action.

cyberdemon23

It's good to hear a nice female narrator for a change.

TMFAN

I miss the ass kickery of the last cinematic. The chaos chosen vs. the warrior priest was tops in my book.

cyberdemon23

I love Dawn of War cinematics, some of my favorites. (Yes, I know this isn't DoW, but still...)

JoRo1986

@jihadjoe343: your kidding, Let me spend 2 minutes summoning an ice dragon. Also no gnomes :(

I enjoyed this one more, sure its not as impressive from a technical standpoint but in terms of action it was far superior.

MINIBOSS

Lots of top quality trailers coming out these days, Warhammer online, dawn of war (extended) Wrath of the Lich king, do you think Meet the sandvich counts?

Arahem

Honestly...I wasn't too impressed with this. After seeing the technical marvel that the Wrath trailer was this one seemed a little bit...boring.

jihadjoe343

@baberg:
Wow, now it sounds even more awesome. Almost sounds like Team Fortress 2 meets WoW.

I'm gonna go read up on my Warhammer lore. I don't know much about it, but it has so much style... Dwarfs with mohawks? Orcs with flamethrowers smoking cigars? Awesome.

FreakyFavabean

I use to play all the warcraft games just to watch the cinematics, seriously i always thought and still think theyre amazing. That being said i love the warhammer universe everything about it just seems cool. Im not totally sure but i remember hearing that Blizzard had actually wanted to make a warhammer game but games workshop turned them down so thats why they ended up making warcraft.

snakepliskin

@sir_carrot: Definitely agree that the forest DoW CG trailer was amazing. One of my favorites.

This newest WAR trailer is excellent. Its much better than the first in some areas. Compare the elves in the first with the elves in this trailer, vastly improved. The humor they inject is nice as well, the goblin in the squig and the beer drinking dwarf for example.

Since its been brought up. I was dissapointed in the WotLK trailer. Technically it was very well done but not much happened. Unless you really like ice there wasn't much to see. Still enjoyed it though.

jobble

@Jetsetneo: Yeah sorry lol.. I played WoW too and I hate how people bash on WAR on the forums. They're seriously just being ignorant because they spent a long time leveling their characters and don't want to leave. Me and my friends are all leavin WoW and saying good bye to our 70's cause it seriously got boring, and Lich King is not enough to keep me. They may expand a little but in it's essence it's still the same game. WAR is providing what you love, but BETTER.

AND I'M OUT! TAKE OVER OTHER WAR FANBOIS (Not afraid to admit it cause it's THAT good :P)

Bitten_Dead

The marauder getting his ass handed to him by a shadow warrior? Then why have they been fleeing away from me whenever I hit them more than once.

In another note you guys might want to explore the awesomeness of this trailer rather than comparing it to the awesomeness of the WoW trailer.

aceofblitz

Too bad these trailers don't summarize or display the type of gameplay these games offer at all.

TK423

In all honesty, I prefer the "Mark of Chaos" trailer over the MMO introduction videos because it had the most disturbingly gritty and "war trauma" I have ever seen in a film this side of the Omaha Beach invasion from Saving Private Ryan.

resvrgam

@Jetsetneo:
"Meet the Sandvich" was awesome, but I still think the best was "Meet the Sniper". :D But yeah, I find the "Meet the" series of trailers better than either WoW or WAR's. Except maybe the Scout, that one fell a little short.

sadaye

@Bitten_Dead: I'm just sayin' lay off the tigger a bit there =/

Chances are those posting here are either people eagerly anticipating War, or WOWsnobs looking to troll, and the latter is walking into a den of lions.

You don't have to bare the weight on your own =)

Jetsetneo

@Bitten_Dead: Hey Warhammer fanboy! Wrath's trailer had a lot going for it, if you know your Warcraft lore. Wrath is aimed at existing players of the game, people who ought to be familiar with the story of the world. Warhammer's trailer is aimed at the new player, hence as another commenter pointed out it's more a showcase of what there is. My disappointment in this trailer is that this was just a fight scene, and not nearly as fascinating a fight scene as Warhammer's first trailer, which I really liked. The characters seem very flat and un-expressive here, where you got a lot of characterization in the first trailer, such as the Dwarf Slayer taking a massive hit, spitting out blood and teeth and still being badass.

In short, this trailer left me going "Meh", while the first trailer they released had me much more excited.

sadaye

Though not as "Blizzardy" as the Wrath of the Lich King cinematic, the folks over at Mythic know how to attract some good attention!

I'm with the sentiment that this cinematic was less fan-wankery and more about showcasing the classes (which is paramount to attracting MMO audiences). I also found this video more entertaining because of the diversity in characters and action sequences (much like the first two intro-cinematics from WoW).

I think Blizzard lost interest in trying to attract more people to their product and targeted the already subscribed audience. I'm a little torn about their choice for fan-service over new-comer enticement.

resvrgam

@Jetsetneo:
Your supporting me in a way, yet insulting me at the same time... you make me weep T_T.

Yeah, but I gotta agree with you, meet the sandvich is without competition.

Bitten_Dead

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I love MMO's so maybe that makes me bias but i thought that was fucking amazing on its own and even put the beautiful WOW trailer to some shame! I am now officially going to try this game

EmeraldCockroach

@FreakyFavabean: Also, I'm glad to see that the dwarfs seem to be more than just comic relief. That one with the shotgun, blowing away the Orcs one by one? Bad ass. If I play thins game, I'm definitely one of those guys. Although the Chaos warrior and the fire breathing wizard were awesome too. And what the hell was up with that goblin?

The Dwarf was an Engineer - they're ranged DPS and can create stationary turrets to help keep DPS up and guard important points. The turrets die pretty quickly though, so it's not too imbalanced. There are several types of turrets to deploy, including flamethrowers.

The goblin was a Squig Herder, also ranged DPS - essentially a WoW Hunter, except with the Warhammer beasts called Squigs. Squigs come in all shapes and colors but don't "level up" like pets in WoW. Squigs can be direct damage or AOE poison, or several others too. They're especially annoying when they get on your healers.

baberg

@Bitten_Dead: We get it, you really like WAR and not WOW, give us a break 4 posts all essentially saying 'SHUT UP WAR > WOW PLKTHNX'?

On topic: This trailer gave me the giddiness i felt w/ the WOW:BC cinematic. Showing off new stuff, (in this case specific classes and a city) and getting the mood. If I had a problem with anything: Order 'loses' again? Why no love for Order mythic?

Compared to the WOW trailer this seemed more like an interpretation of what could happen in the game, while the WOW:WOTLK was more like a set-up for the lore behind the launch (Arthas' rallying his forces/He knows the 'Heroes' are coming). Either way, both were amazing trailers but fail in comparison to 'Meet the Sandvich'

Jetsetneo

From start to finish this trailer rocked I could watch a full length movie of this

Compared to the Lich King trailer I actually found this one entertaining and fun.

Murderdolls

@sir_carrot:

One can hope..

Bitten_Dead

The ending was rather swell, but I still think the first Dawn of War cinematic with the forest battle is one of the best Warhammer cinematics.

I wonder if MMO's will ever play like their CG counterparts?

...unlikely.

sir_carrot

Did they just toss a giant d20 through that gate?

AlphaMoose

@Crabfeast:

And how does Tiger Woods walk on water? He just DOES. It's not a glitch.

Bitten_Dead

@ratfunk:

Yeah, I'll agree. Mark of Chaos had the single greatest cinematic I've yet seen, followed closely by Burning Crusade.

Too bad Mark of Chaos was a horrible pos.

tzaketh

@anoriel: If Mythic starts pandering to the Asian markets the way Blizzard does now, we'll be seeing go-go boots and thongs a'plenty.

resvrgam

Well, this kicked the shit out of that crappy WoW trailer.

Now if only CG was indicative of final game quality...

tzaketh

EVeryone should see it in HD(720p). Looks much better. :D

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Bigfoot

@the-hypnotoad:

One of the quests for the Dark Orc involve killing a dwarf, getting yourself launched off a catapult onto a castle, stuffing the dead dwarf into a barrel and then throwing it...

Does this suit your fancy? lol

Bitten_Dead

Phew, I'm glad hot chick #1 didn't get killed by hot chick #2. That archer owned.

Pata-pwn(TM?)

OK i thought this was good, but go check out Blade and Soul on YouTube and... basically blows this out of the frikkin water!

EmeraldCockroach

WAR's cinematic is probably the best I've ever seen (loved this and WotLK cinematics.) Sure, it's not the quality of Blizzard but goddamn, it's awesome. And just for being Warhammer it's awesome. Too bad this movie doesn't reflect how the game actually is. Been playing it for a while now and the gameplay is like WoW with less effort and polish. The only thing it has going for it is the lore and what it -could- be. Only played WoW because of friends, and if I do play this it'll only be because it's Warhammer.

sushimandan

Honestly, I was all in with Warcraft back in the 90s because things were so quiet on the Warhammer/40k front PC wise. But things have definitely picked up in the last 3-4 years on the Games Workshop side of things. Honestly WoW's presentation has sort of crossed over onto the slightly silly/cheesy side of things for me, whereas I feel this darker presentation hits closer to the mark (plus WoW just can't keep it's lore straight or just doesn't care any more).

Too bad these games never play as cool as their trailers, but if the whole game carries through with the grim and darkly humorous tone then I think there is clearly a group of WoW players and other GW fans that will be strongly on-board. Here's hoping they get it right!

the-hypnotoad

I'm just glad the female warrior isn't wearing a metal thong... That mage casting fire was badass. But I couldn't help but think LOTR the whole time >_>

anoriel

this trailer is pretty freaking awesome. especially at the very end when the dwarf chugs the beer before the bad dude walks in. hell, the last warhammer trailer was cool too. but the best cinematic i've seen so far is still the burning crusade trailer. if you were a warcraft 3 fan and didn't freak out a little when you saw it, you're lying. and the wotlk trailer looked amazing but was super boring. end.

twelveminusone

I must have this......

Dionyza

@FreakyFavabean: Yes, yes, yes... I'm back and WAR is my poison I get it lol. Too into it to stop now :P.

Not only that but they have helicopter jet packs as their mount, sniper rifles, grenades, etc. Like COD4 Condensed into a midget.

Bitten_Dead

Don't know if this has been stated yet, but the Forrest DoW trailer is actually the Cinimatic from Mark of Chaos. That is definatly the best CG trailer I have ever seen. The first DoW trailer is really good as well.

ratfunk

@tzaketh: I stand corrected!

Crabfeast

@Bitten_Dead: [textwall.blogspot.com] second video shows the catapult in action, all this at only level 3

MINIBOSS

This cinematic was done by Blur Studios. While I have to agree that Blizzard cinematics are amazing, they have about four times the amount of time and money to complete their cinematics than places like Blur. This is really amazing stuff!!!!

saxifridge

@Crabfeast:

If I'm not mistaken, that wasn't a Dragon. It looks like a larger than normal Lord of Change, a Greater Daemon of Tzeentch. Which means it's a being made of pure magic. So it can look however it wants.

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The model: [www.coolminiornot.com]

tzaketh

@Murrytmds: I don't know if you've played the beta recently, but it is pretty damn stable right now. It's looking like Mythic will have as good of a launch with Warhammer as they did with Dark Age of Camelot.

Nirotu

Honestly, having played WoW for a couple years and having played the Warhammer beta... Id say warhammer, while currently rough around the edges, is better at WoW and if any MMO has a chance of being the "WoW killer" This is it. Of course it /wont/ kill WoW... I mean even if this game takes off like a rocket its not going to kill WoW. If EQ1 and UO are still around then nothing is going to be WoW's deathknell

But still, I could see a lot of people switching over once the game has seen some more polish.

Murrytmds

@ashman512: see the word "two" up there? It's supposed to be spelled "too". Damn my English.

ashman512

I'm probably biased toward the Wrath trailer, but this one was spot on two. Like people have already said, they're both trying to do different things. One trying to appeal to current fan base, and the other trying to appeal to new people. That being said, I probably won't subscribe to WAR, unless I hear it's crazy awesome. I've invested more time than I'd like to admit into WoW, and I don't know if I'd like to spend that amount of time on a game that's probably going to be fairly similar.

ashman512

Honestly I thought the Wrath of the Lich King intro was boring. In this cinematic at least they have some action going on. And they show all some classes in the game. Wrath's intro showed the dragon mount you'll get but that's about it.

Nirotu

Beats the shit out of the WotLK cinematic, that's for sure.

yargh

Hmm.

All this flaming and what not...hmm.

Well Im not really into MMOs but I love watching the cinematics. And the wrath of the lich king seemed pretty bad ass...it doesnt have to be all about action.

While this one was pretty bad ass too...but none of these are on par with the mark of chaos trailer...I mean god damn if I didnt want a movie produced by whoever made that trailer.

Terrorsaur.

I freely admit that I love WoW, always have, probably always will.

Every time I watch the WotLK trailer I like it more, tho I do feel it doesn't have as much 'game meat' as their previous cinematics do. Then again Blizzard doesn't have to rely on flash and bombast to make their point now... they can go for *subtle*, which of course will alienate half the new wave of B-Net kiddies (one can only hope, right?)

I also am interested in WO:AoR, but I gotta say the cinematic was WAY too long, and frankly didn't inspire me as much as the Blizzard ones have. Yes, lots of pretty, action aplenty, but nothing in that cinematic made me any MORE interested in playing the game than I already had been.

Simply put: the Blizzard Cinematics (WotLK included) come off as more effective to me. Then again I'm not a ritalin popping twitch-monger looking for the next Pew Pew moment in my gaming (or my cinematics...) must be my advancing age (you know 36 is near-death in gaming years apparently)

I also don't see PvP as a primary motivator for me playing an MMO (even though I have ALWAYS played on PvP servers in WoW), so I don't know if WO:AoR will hold my interest much... Still plan on playing it tho, anything to get out that awful taste from the Conan MMO... >_<

Furiursa

@anoriel: Bright Wizards are basically licensed pyromaniacs.

What people need to understand is WAR isn't trying to be a 'WoW Killer'. They just want to fill the pvp niche that everybody had hoped WoW was going to have originally.

You can't really compare the games at the current state of either of them. You'd do better to compare WAR with how WoW was 3 years ago at its release.

belo

I liked both trailers, but I'm done with WoW. Warhammer Online on the other hand is probably the game to make me dive back into MMOs (dammit) because I used to play the table top game, and Warhammer fluff gives me a huge nerd boner.

Gouki4u

Imho the WAR cinematic is better than the Wotlk cinematic.

Cufol33tcat

Plenty of instant gratification type of gamers afoot it seems. Hard to appreciate this over the latest Blizzard cinematic, unless you're only looking for action. But on the other hand I don't care for either of the actual games, all I'm looking for is quality of storytelling, art directing and rendering. I just can't turn blind eye to the fact that Blizzard is making their cinematics pretty much out of love for their franchises, there is no justification for the amount of money they sink into clips that are no part of the actual gameplay.

ara

Its was an excellent trailer showing us the WAR essense in 3 mins.Oh and btw for the Lich King naysayers.Please note that the game its titled THE WRATH OF THE LICH KING and not OF THE GNOME LICH KING.So spare me with the no gnomes complaining.The goal of the trailer is to introduce us into something NEW the Hero class.

dekaneas

Was that the greater Daemon of Tzeentch? I've been swooned! XP

IcerDragoon

@Nirotu: Seriously most of the bugs I've seen people complain HAVE been fixed and there are still some that need to be fixed. But people, it's only in Closed Beta as of right (not for long) and glitches are expected. WoW had plenty of glitches, but patches always do justice.

Bitten_Dead

The WoW trailer was definitely more lore centric. That said, I liked it better. I've been a Warcraft fan for a while, and the narration was what did it for me.

I might check Warhammer out, but I honestly doubt it's going to challenge WoW all that much. Remember, 9 million players and how many years out? It could be much better, but WoW has the reputation. I know nothing about the Warhammer universe right now, so I'll definitely read about it before I make any judgements on the story.

Kenninator

@MINIBOSS: Br3nt is amazing :P

Bitten_Dead

Why did it take so long to put this on the site? Blizzard paying the bills?

Anyway I really enjoyed this trailer.

necrotoxin

@necrotoxin: That's what I first commented on too lol. Sure took their sweet time to put this up :P.

Bitten_Dead

@ara:

Wait wait wait.... You're saying you play WoW because of the LORE?

You do realize Blizzard cares nothing about their lore, right? And that the amazingly characterized Arthas from that trailer is going to be killed thousands of times for phat lewts?

The reason that, in my opinion, the WoTLK trailer blew chunks, was not because there weren't explosions every two seconds. That trailer was sub-par because the purpose of a cinematic is to give you a general feel and taste of what's to come. WAR accomplished that by showcasing several major classes, showing very brief characterization of the main races, and announcing, front and center, the part that City sieging PVP will play in the game.

Blizzard nailed their last two cinematics. WoW vanilla showed off several of the major classes, the variance of locations to which you could go in the World of Warcraft, and a good characterization of the major races based on their fighting styles. Burning Crusade made a point of showing the new art direction of Outlands, introduced the two new races, and showed the main boss of the expansion. The WoTLK one, however, really showed nothing but the main boss, and served simply to remind players that a character with great backstory and healthy promise as a narrative device is going to be killed repeatedly with some half-assed explanation of his respawn like they did with Illidan in TBC.

I had at least expected to see some of the Death Knight spells in glorious Blizzard CG.

tzaketh

@sir_carrot:
Maybe in the next 20-50 years or so. When you are probably 213 and we are both in our respective mansions smoking the pipe of oldness is coolness.

Awesome trailer, to me it looks of the same quality as the lich king trailer.

Dirame

This was far better than the wotlk trailer in terms of action. Then again, wth was the big bird in the end? Vulture of doom?

SensAzn

As incredible as all three WotLK, WAR and DoW2 cinematics have been, the 'Meet the...' trailers have just been outstanding every time, and better yet, are in-engine :o

NiceMissMayonnaise

Haven't been much of a fan of anything elves related for a long time, but the High Elf and Dark Elf in this trailer got me excited. And I used to have a Dark Elf army. ^^
Ah Warhammer, you do things so right.

Zhal

The TF2 trailers are really funny but to compare them to those of WotLK, WAR, and DoW2 is foolish. The aforementioned games have "epic" trailers while the Meet series are more about comedy and character development.

I for one, dig the cinematics from Blizzard and Blur as all of their work has been quite epic.

popowrx

@cyberdemon23:
Aye, it should have more Dwarf vs Orc action. Battle of the Musscles. That's always good to see, Blunt, Harsh, Brutal, Bloody and Tough ;).

Dehnus

Ah, so nice to see Tzeentch get some love in video games. Normally we just get bloodthirsters; Khorne's fun, but a bit of magic and mutation is fun too.

This traielr surprised me actually; when I heard the horns, I was expecting a big charge from Imperial Knights, crushing the orcs and maybe flirting with the Dark Elves a little before butchering them. The Lord of Change was a nice switcheroo! I wonder how many of those will appear in-game...

stoneagedan

@Bitten_Dead: Guess what, wow looks the way it is because it is the only good mmo out there that can run on a 7 yrs old comp with Geforce4 at a playable frame rate. that feature along win over a good chunk of their subscribers.

OmegaKulu

I'm so glad I preordered this game. Can't wait to play. :-)

Burrows14

@FreakyFavabean:
Actually, they aren't comic relief in WOW either. If you play Dwarves and thier quests (like the Questline of Sully Bailoo) you find out they are a wise and ancient people. That have thier reasons for how they are. If you read the lore you find out WHY they distrust all Elves (the Great Sundering caused them great pain). The Dwarves actually had alot added to them in WOW from just a few units in WC2, to a few names and alot of units in WC3 (they had more units then the Humans had) till complete lore and different races in WOW.

Just like Blizzard did to the Orcs before (making them mroe then mindless green fighting machines) they are now doing to the dwarves. CHeck the first Dwarven art from Samwise (a self confessed Dwarven fan) Didier and the Later ones. You'll see they have improved alot. The first CGI trailer of WOW made the dwarves look like they ROCKED.

Thier Racial leader has the best and most fitting Voice emotes for its race (Not like Thrall who, even though Metzen voiced him, is a bit too rushed). They have a very nice homeland. They have an honour code like Orcs (the sole reason for AV is that, unlike Humans, they don't run when you slaughter them they figth back). They are an ancient race with alot of knowledge. You can go on like that for a while. Blizzard does love the Dwarves alot, and they show it.

The Orcs also have the problem of being "comic" relief. But I think that is more to how humans react. Check cartoons, often the strong guys are portrayed as comic relief (even if they are rather stupid sometimes). I think we just don't want the big/Strong guys to be mean and evil. Even Ogres we usually give alot of redeeming qualities too. But rest asured, the Elves in Blizzards Warcraft Universe come off alot worse then the Dwarves (Most wars they are involved, they did alot of nasty things and are also used for comic relief. Go to the Outlands and look in the mine near one of Kael's Manaforges, there is a particulary whiney Blood Elf there complaining that he has to work ;) and that's just one example ;)). Don't let the Dwarf/Orc Haters get to you in WoW, they are both great and fun races with alot of background and aren't just comic relief ;).

Dehnus

@tzaketh: the WoW clip is an "Opening Cinematic" it's NOT a "Trailer", they serve different purpose. Blizz is trying to build suspense in their clip for the upcoming expansion, where EA is trying to show you whats to come from WAR.

OmegaKulu

umm, so they ripped of orcs dwarves and all the other classes from WoW wtf?

I kid I kid :D

This is a great cinematic, giving a great flavour for the various classes of the game, looking forward to picking WAR up, (3 months after release of course).

Jeetuk

the Lich King cinematic is a guy in plate mail standing around for more than 50% of its duration while he thinks back to all of his daddy issues. Its the ultimate emo homage.

qhue

@Jeetuk: I seriously almost had an internet aneurysm.

willsueforfood

WAR fanboi here !

WotLK includes everything that players asked to fix about TBC 10+ months ago. Good job bleeding players for more money.

p.s. Casuals, welfare epics, etc etc etc blah blah blah

That being said, WAR's combat system is a little less responsive, but its getting better.

expansionsss

Holy crap that looks incredible.

Fenian

cinematic cinematic... Gone were the days that I watched cinematic trailers, i want gameplay... cuz thats what tells us how a game is like. I dont mind cinematics if it were like MGS4... now that was awesome.

Anyway, this might be the first mmorpg ill try for a long time. I didnt even try AoC given how i felt that it was rushed.. and i was right. This one feels just right...

Fauxe

Looks great... the only thing it is missing are Tarutarus casting Blizzaga III onthe incoming army.

This opening totally reminds me of Final Fantasy XI MMORPG lmao...

I mean it is good, but FFXI, anyone? anyone?

Tenzu

First the Lich King and then this? Why can't we get any CG films that are as good as these? Instead we end up with Beowolf, FF:Spirts Within and all of the rehashed Toy Story movies.

These are fantastic

M.A.S.

@tzaketh: "You're saying you play WoW because of the LORE?"

Umm, no? I don't play WoW. I don't care about WAR or WoW as games at all.

ara

@Bitten_Dead: Jesus balls man, lay off the fanboy tripe. Both games are adding some amazing stuff, both of them are fun in their own right. (But to be honest, I think WAR's RvR system is a lot better than WoW PvP, so once I play to 80 on LK (not a raider, but love the environments and some of the more epic quests) I'll likely drop the account and play WAR.)

Also:

your - possessive noun; "Your head is on fire"

you're - contraction of "you are"; "You're such a n00b"

LEARN THE DIFFERENCE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD.

@tzaketh: Blizzard has never made any excuses for why you can kill the same boss over and over again, even as far back as Ragnaros it wouldn't make sense for you to be able to kill an elemental deity and then magically resummon him again a week later, no matter the explanation, so they just never even brought it up. Not really understanding your complaint >.>

Norellicus

Man...I getting really tempted to play this, but after the bitter taste that was AoC, I'm gonna wait a couple months for before taking the plunge. Lesson learned. :P

sweetie55

Good video. Still doesn't make me want to play. If I do, I will wait 6 months after realease. Let the bugs work out. And wait for players to actually put live, game play videos out. Along with boss kills.

To those comparing this to the Wrath "trailer". Get over yourself. There is no comparison. EA and Warhammer have to have a bad ass video(some of you seem to think, that's cool, your opinion). But Blizzard is on the 3rd installment of the World of Warcaft line(expansion #2). They will keep a good 90% of their player base even when Warhammer launches. And some will end up flocking back, because the game play is not for them. Blizzard didn't need to have this awe inspiring, wtfpwn roxorMcFuCkInspress of a video that roflstomps Gnomes into extinction(would have been funny though), to keep the fans intrigued. Warhammer, being a new MMO needs a bad ass start. Or it will fail.

I am not flaming the Warhammer video. It was cool, but like all video games with a cool looking trailer, or cinematic. The game will be made my its actual game play, and looks. From what I have seen, Warhammer is lacking a bit in both category s. We shall see in a month or so >.>

moe84

@Bishmon: I'm getting the same feelings of confused rage from the Rock Band vs Guitar Hero threads. It's natural to compare, but some people take it to religous levels. It's absurd.

I for one just enjoy how much of a technical marvel these trailers are. I don't know much about the Warhammer universe, but I am interested in this game.

AntiheroKing

I'm not a huge MMO fan but I will play WAR just because it is Warhammer and from the time I've seen my brother play the game on guild beta it's pretty good. While it looks like there seems to be some balancing issues its not something that can't be fixed before it's release date.

That video was just great in that it showed me why WAR will be fun. It's all about war and nothing but war. When the people at Mythic said they'll make the game less about grinding and more about just going in the game and actually fighting other players right from the get-go they weren't kidding.

Shame that Chaos Lord had to pull everyone back to show off his Lord of Change. It really looked like that Dark Elf Sorceress was about to get it on with that High Elf Shadow Warrior. The Squig Herder and its crazy self riding inside the mouth of the Squig then getting an arrow through its neck while laughing later in the video always gets me laughing.

Tull

Being in both WOTLK and WAR Betas, I can say that each one should be successful in its own way. WOTLK brings back the less kiddie vibe of Frozen Throne & Naxx, whereas WAR has the RvR goodness and it's own amazing art style. I'm actually digging the sound in WAR more than WOTLK at the moment. WAR's art style isn't Oblivion-MMO like AoC, but then again it also doesn't smack your PC around like AoC so the hardware threshold is lower.

I too was reminded of LOTR during this CG, but then again if you watch Square's FFXI intro from years ago you'll see it there, and probably in others as well :)

7thpixel

@TK423: Wrong.

I spot a lot of in-game references in this trailer. The Engineer with the gun and turret, as well as the booze at the end are all part of his skills. Yes, even the booze.

The Bright Wizard (aka Man on Fire) did moves that can be found in-game as well - the fire breath, the immolate, even the last part where he was closing his wound by searing it up.

The only fake part was the the Shadow Warrior taking out the Marauder. Everyone who's in the beta knows that doesn't happen often. :P

cythas

@Bitten_Dead: Um actually if you noticed all of the videos reference towards the game title. As in the Burning Crusade you notice people starting to go to the Outlands which is like what a hellspawn of some sort and you see Illidan himself. With the new cinematic it references towards Arthas and well the Wrath of the Lich King. I think Blizzard did a superb job on the cinematic and I enjoyed it even more than this.

lionheart29

Honestly I see this and to me it's alright. I'm more of a Blizzard Cinematic lover ever since WCIII. Honestly with this though I quite don't understand what's going on. All I see is Orcs getting slaughtered as well as Humans. All of the sudden I guess I see dwarf riflemen trampled by some pink thing then a mage puts it on fire but then the he gets stabbed by some dude then that dude gets shot with arrows by an archer or ranger w/e she is then the she gets frozen by some witch. It's like some chain link or something lol. Other than that I'm not really interested in this game, I've been MMORPG whipped by WoW sadly =/.

ClydeDeianeira

also, PVP ROX!!! WAAAAAAARRR!!!!

brenoporra

ill probably give it a try some months after release too

brenoporra

@SeedyROM: You do realize that cinematics are farmed out to 3rd partys (such as the Blur studios) for this one.

Boudabras

@jihadjoe343: your just trying to deflect or justify your jealous rage of how much time you watsted in WoW recently and now you will have to start over in WAR.

TheTog

Someone above mentioned being burned by AoC. People wanted that to be the "WoW Killer" so badly and realized that post-20 the game was Beta, and post-40 the game was Alpha.

Unfortunately that'll probably work against Mythic to some degree, even though Funcom != Mythic.

7thpixel

What I liked about this cinematic is that it's all stuff that people will see within their "lifetime" of playing WAR, as evidenced by the RvR combat in the link Miniboss provided. On the other side of things, WoW's cinematic shows content that only 5% of the playerbase will ever actually witness firsthand, heh.

Now, I've played WoW for a damn long time, (started about 10 months before retail on a press pass) I've got a fair number of epic'd out 70s, and while I will be playing WotLK, I am really, really ready to move on. The game is old and it's starting to show, Blizzard is stuck in a loop of regurgitating content where shit just has more hitpoints and hits harder, and I just don't care that much about Azeroth anymore. The idea of leveling up yet another character through the Outlands makes me break out in hives.

So, for the people who currently have beta access to WAR... are squig herders as much fun to play as this video made them look to be? Because I am all up for that crazy goblin shit, lemme tell ya.

Calhoun

WotLK had a lot of wow factor (pun not intended... for once) with that Frost Dragon.

AoR, on the other hand, had me going "Holy shit!" when the Lord of Change appeared.

Tzaketh has a point, though. The WotLK trailer does nothing for the expansion itself, while the AoR one shows off a lot of possibilities. Plus the Goblin was funny as hell.

SAMAS

The Squigg herder was awesome.

Nisori

@dekaneas:

We all know that; the whole gnome thing just refers to an old hatred of blizzard never showing a gnome in any of their CGI work. So seriously; where's the gnome in the trailer...?

Zeiphor

This game looks amazing and is amazing. beta ftw.

That said, the Blizz trailer was pretty awesome too. And on the gnome thing...
Anyone heard of the new warlock spell that turns you into a demon?
Having a gnome warlock turn into a giant demon and wtfpwn everything would have been the single best moment in history.

Shame. :(

Yadama

How can anyone say they don't understand what's going on? lol... it's a bunch of characters from the game engaged in battle. It's not that complex.

And yes, this was so much more interesting than the WoW trailer. I loved the appearance of the Dark Elf Sorceress.

goddessakasha

PVP really makes this game. It's as much fun as I ever had PVPing when I played WoW (2 years of my life lost in a haze) and I barely scratched the surface. It's also pretty balanced for a beta.

I'm trying to stay away from it this weekend since it will be insane with all the CE but it's testing my resolve.

@Calhoun: Personally I couldn't get to grips with the Squig Herder. If you've ever played a hunter in WoW it's almost nothing like it if that helps.

Reikoku

For those in the dark, that was basically a lot of the cool stuff about Warhammer. "wild" magic, badass elves, techno dwarves, crazy greenskins (gobbos), chaos mutants. Delicious!

paydirt76

@Reikoku: Well, thanks anyway, gives me an idea of what it *isn't* like, heh.

Calhoun

Not ever have I been a Warhammer fan in any degree, but the game looks good and the trailer interests me even more. I've been looking for an MMO that suits my needs better than WoW did, before I quit over a year ago.

Bruce Skillis

too bad my marauder is useless in rvr thus far. anyone with range is some sort of walking god.

Grahamunculus

LOL, people making judgments about a game on basis of a trailer.

Craywulf

@expansionsss: I was really happy with TBC - great fun, great design, can't wait for Lich King.

Trencher-1

near the start,above the chaos leaders head in the sky and at about 1:19 there are SCREAMERS!!!!! this game can't come quick enough- they should do a 40K one next :)

Quoda

I was pretty underwhelmed with the WotLK trailer. It was pretty damn boring and I'm not so sure about the dragon. The ingame version of said dragon looks really, really pathetic. Like a kid's meal toy pathetic.

I expect to see a lot more from Blizzard for the actual cinematic trailer. If that was the actual trailer, then for shame Blizzard, that tells me absolutely nothing about the game. The only scenery was a hell of a lot of ice, no icecrown castle, no forests, no death knights.

The WAR trailer on the other hand was pretty impressive, there was a lot going on and it definitely required a couple views to catch everything.

Stevezissou

I know I am late but - WOW!!!

Awoken is waiting for R2

Those people sure know how to make a sweet ass-trailer

Crawl to China

I think the ppl that dont get y this stuff is happening is because u just there to see the cinematic not what there saying.
If you guys listen to the Narrator what she is saying then u will get y its happening,listen to her and u will know y all of that is happening.

But truly i think Warhammer Online and WLK Cinematic were both good,Warhammer had some humour in it,while WLK just makes u wonder y Arthas came back from him being Frozen up for years.

But i think both Warhammer and WoW Online games will both be a tie,sinse Warhammer as that PvP & War and WoW as Dungeons & Battle(which i mean like to get honor and stuff like that)

If i am rite,then both of those MMORPGs top,plus WoW kinda lost some juice in the middle after WoW:BC came out.

SinStryker

@Crabfeast: Thats a lord of change not a dragon. greater daemons get armor just because they can.

Nahaj

@jihadjoe343: I don't see what was so technically marvelous about the Wrath trailer. Both trailers look damn sexy, but this one was more entertaining and gives you a great impression of a few of the classes.

Cabooselol

SOLD!!!

@jihadjoe343
Since when was WoW about technical advances? It's about action and excitement. This one is more action-packed and exciting.

ssh83