@MASOCHIST187: Dude, to this day I still remember the horror me and friends faced against those sims. We did alright against perfect sims, but dark sims would blatantly cheat right in front of you. We would have 4 on 4 matches, 4 of us vs 4 dark sims. Let's just say it wasn't pretty. lol. But we still had fun though. Good times.

XeroKool

@excaliburps: Yeah, that'd be pretty awesome man. I'd probably get the game just for that if they did a good job with it!

Toasticus

The Unreal Tournament series has been the champ when it comes to multiplayer bots. While they are still stupid, their great numbers make up intelligence with brute force.

Quicksilver4648

Simulated campers?

Handbanana37

This game is looking better and better

Scott3D

Hopefully it'll turn out be something like the Horde Mode in GoW2. 2/4/10 human players vs. an onslaught of AI bots. =)

def PD

About time.

I am so sick of playing online matches. I would like to be left alone playing bots like the good old days of playing Goldeneye and Perfect Dark.

Snappywave

awesome. Its surprisingly rare to find games with bots nowadays

Sandbox_Emperor

this is staring to sound like the UT3 setup.

Awoken

@Toasticus: Yeah that'd be awesome. Especially if they can make it 10 humans against 30 bots or something to that effect. Heck make it a 100 and let a team of 10 people neutralize 'em. Yeah I dig that!

@midobustingloose: That or just play with bots til you get the hang of it. =D

I play with bots I admit. Even if there are human players. Sometimes all the strategy,team work and whatnot are a bit tiring. You just want to go all gung-ho and throw grenades at everyone.

excaliburps

I remember back in counter-strikes early betas there were bot systems. The people that did use them used them for training and not much more because of the more then likely outcome of being shot through the wall. It kept hardcore players of the game on their toes.

I'm still a big fan of Goldeneye style AI. Duck, shoot, stand up shoot, roll out of the way. Shoot in to a wall. As bad as the AI looked then, to a certain degree it was also very difficult to avoid it. The bots weren't storm troopers, so they could land shots. Especially in numbers.

Hopefully, outside of bots, this game will give me a reason to buy it. What I'm truly looking for is 4 player local multi-player (the real kind, I know, it's so pathetic). And as someone said above the "Perfect Dark" type style of multi-player. 4 people in the room, assortment of weapon sets, optional AI, and lots of real-time (heh) trash talking.

NewSpecies

Bots can be great, but I hope the way they are implemented doesn't end up like Unreal Tournament 3 on the Xbox 360, where you end up playing against some people and a lots of bots, and the bots always end up crushing everyone.

Maybe I'm just getting placed in bad multiplayer games of UR3, but people always seem to put the evil female boss nemesis chick in the game, and she always pwns my face in. Then she does a little dance. It's humiliating.

DugDawg

damn i was hating on this game so hard. every thing im reading and seeing is changing my mind for sure. even the off screen vids look crazy. it looks like KZ2 is benefitting much from being in the oven, while we get served with R2 and Socom in 08.

zanzibarlegend

Nice! It's usually super-powered internerds with headsets that put me right off online multiplayer. This way I can pander to my ego by turning the bot AI right down and winning all the time!

Yay!

midobustingloose

@MASOCHIST187:

I have a special love for any game that allows me to pit humans against bots. Man vs. the Machines.

PapaBear434

@wicko:

...creepy...

MASOCHIST187

I'm looking forward to the hands on "review." So get on it.

PapaBear434

Perfect Dark with a friend against bots was the shit! Except the top level difficulty one's that cheated.

MASOCHIST187

Nice! One thing that kept me playing perfect dark on the N64 for so long was because of the bots and the stats/rank.

wicko

If you can set it up so all the bots are on one team and everyone else can team up against them, then that's pretty cool. Otherwise, meh.

@Sportyboard: "Well, we were originally planning for our bots to just stand there like cardboard cutouts, but our programmers really went above and beyond!"

Toasticus

I hope they have a percentage to miss you. The bots in the first one were ruthless bastards, They could snipe you with the grenade launching alternate fire, and NEVER hesitated to do so... Hardest bots I've EVER played against. And it was mainly because their accuracy was spot on everytime, and they always had a one-shot kill weapon.

Grandreaper999

"Bots in Killzone 2 will actively try to react how a player would react, able to use all abilities, weapons, and participate in all mission types."

So in other words, they have artificial intelligence?

I hate how developers try to play up their AI by spelling it out like that. Obviously the bots will do that. If they didn't, they wouldn't be bots.

Sportyboard

That's good for getting matches going if not many are playing.

Morpork

Sounds good assuming you can disable them if you want a pure-humans game. Some games have very impressive AI bots these days, so I'd be happy with them if it meant having a full match.

Kazzahdrane

now all we need is atleast 2 player splitscreen and I can be happy.

Jawmuncher

Claps hands for a FPS doing what a FPS should do by default, BOTS. Who knows, now that FPS have bots maybe racing games will get replays and OMG I hope the next platformer that comes out lets me jump :/

spacecoffin2

Awesome - one of the best things about the original Killzone was playing with a friend, heavily outnumbered against Helghast on the highest difficulty. Sure, their AI wasn't great, but defending generators from Space Nazis doesn't get old.

LiquidDarsh

@F22: that would almost put this game in best game ever catagory if the bots did that lol

EVIL_V2

i would LMFAOff if after they kill you the bots would teabag you

F22

Fantastic. I used to love going around to a mates place and playing us versus bots, the closest thing we had to playing online together. I'm actually looking forward to eventually buying this game now.

el_rezzo

Oh, and bots to play with you and a friend is okay, but I mean Star Wars Battlefront style I hate to death. Or Counter-Strike bots. Keep bots off of online. There's no need to have them. That's why there's a single player mode.

tironabardheblu

Bots in online? Fuck, I think Guerilla just ruined this game for me. I play online to play against people, not bots. I get no satisfaction what so ever by killing bots, only sad that I wasted bullets... I knew this game was too good to be true...

tironabardheblu

@NewSpecies: Indeed.. I have yet to see a game that matches PD.. so much customization, it was great.

wicko

@MASOCHIST187: Oh jeez.. I just realized that you had probably posted that without seeing my post... creepy....

wicko

I can't think of better gaming news to get on a Friday! I was/am a huge fan of the bots in Red Faction 2. They were real bastards on hard, but kept the game interesting. Good work Guerilla! You'll definitely get my monies.

destro78

@MASOCHIST187: Creepy? lolwut

wicko

@tironabardheblu: I'm sure there will be an option to include them or not.

fquick

@tironabardheblu: I don't think you should worry about it.. i'm sure there are plenty of people that won't like the bots. But then there are people who will, nothing wrong with having it both ways.

wicko

@tironabardheblu: I'm sure you can look for a server that has them disabled. How can you complain about an ADDED feature that you can remove? It's like those people bashing Resistance for having 60 players like you couldn't play smaller matches. Don't like it? Ignore it.

FP_slomo788

@tironabardheblu: Who cares? Join a server that isn't using them then..

wicko

@FP_slomo788: Because I know half the games will be full of bots giving me the number of games available cut in half. I hope it doesn't take off well and people don't use them for online matches. I have no problems with offline bot action, just keep them off of online.

tironabardheblu

@tironabardheblu: You have the choice to play with bots. If you don't want to, you just disactivate them. So you can have 32 player games even offline. How is it ruining it for you? You can STILL play with humans.

FP_slomo788

The bots takign up space in games issue isn't necessarily a bad thing. I'm sure that if you try joining a game full of bots, that the bot would get kicked and you fill in for it, making for a match that would always have action going on, while filling up with people. HOW is that a bad thing?

Grandreaper999

Every multiplayer game should have bots.

Only *I* can type nasty things about my mother. Lol

Cheroro

@FP_slomo788: Options are only good if there are on the PC/360/Wii/TI-83/GBA/DS/Phantom/N-gage otherwise they are just "forcing" you to play with it by making it optional

FP Bleentastic has cake

I'm a big fan of bot based offline multiplayer also. I'm glad its back--I almost thought that was a feature of past generations that had faded away.

fenderfuel08

Hell yeah! About damned time they add something like this. Will be picking this up when it hits the shelves.

Witzbold

I wished more games shipped with MP bots.

Seriously looking forward to Kill Zone 2.

Sh0dan

@Punkateer: Yeah, thats one of the added benefits of bots that exists, they actually play the game rather than trash talking and singing non stop.

I got a kick out of the GC Killzone trailer also...all the players were for the most part saying contructive things into their headsets to help thier team win. In reality, if that were Halo 3 on Xbox Live there would have been a much different experience...one that makes you feel dumber for exposing yourself to it.

fenderfuel08

@Grandreaper999: UT has been doing that since forever. You can host a game online full of bots. While you run around fighting and people start to join in, the bots are replaced with actual players with the game notifying you when the switch is made. Awesome stuff. I use it all the time in UT3 on Ps3.

Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.

Bots? BOTS? Okay cool...uh can we get m/kb support to?

Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.

Sweet. I'm hoping they spew the N-word in a prepubescent cracking voice while calling the leading scorer a homo. That would really show how well these guys are at programming AI and make it almost identical to real life.

I hope we can issue commands to the bots (defend/attack/cover) that was doable in Battlefront and it was somewhat easy to do.

Punkateer

@Cheroro: That's what seperates multiplayer with singleplayer. In singleplayer, you take on AI. In multiplayer, you take on other people.

tironabardheblu

The more I think about this, the more excited I get! I am hoping they do allow you to make one team full of bots, and the other team humans, or half and half, or any configuration of the two. I'd like to go into a big level with a few friends, and just practice our teamwork without having to worry about some cracked-out teenager on speed that can manage to get a twitch headshot from 200 yards with a pistol taking me out while I admire the blood gushing from the corpse I'm shooting up.

0rin

Guerrilla rep: "Killzone 2 bots! They shoot, they kill, they julien fries!"
Online play enthusiast: "But do they teabag you when you die?"
Guerrilla rep: "..."

CheckersMcGavern

I guess I'm in the minority by disliking bots. I should have a PS3 when this launches so here's to waiting.

ReyDEEEEZY

@spacecoffin2: "I hope the next platformer that comes out lets me jump :/"

u talkin about Bionic Commando? my 4 year old just ran through the demo. he beat the first boss on the NES version,currently playing that before Rearmed.

MAN UP Soldier!!!! {^_^}

zanzibarlegend

I guess it is nice to have for some players, but I hate bots in multiplayer setups.

SolidEyeSystem

Finally! A next-gen game with bots that isn't a racer!! Okay, I haven't played UT but that aside it was getting really lonely on bot-island.

Bots can be a lot of fun, I think Timesplitters (2) is a testament of that.

hezz05

I have yet to play a fps that has had realistic bots. They're usually too good or retarded.

Also, where's the fun in teabagging computer AI?

OGHowie

@tironabardheblu:

bots have been around in multiplayer games for awhile now man..that is, if you even played PC games. But it really depends what server you go into that includes that.

wahrugene

Why is it so rare for a game to include Bots?

Thanks you Killzone...

This is very Unreal..

TheApprentice

YES YES YEEEEESSSSSSSSS!!!!!! You may hate AI players, but I wish ALL shooters had them.

goldwings

ahh the good ol' days of 4 people having fun around an N64 playing Perfect Dark + bots. It puzzles me why so few games implement bots on their multiplayers. Gives peopole who like to play offline splitscreen something better to do!

Alex_Mexico

hell ya! all it needs now is split screen with bots, if that happens I can finally retire my copy timesplitters.

Molockian

I'm happy to hear of bots for KZ2, and even happier to have them available online. 1 vs 1 with a friend is much more interesting with bots on each side.

crashlanding

BOTS?! This just went from ignore-till-it-hits-$20 to day-one purchase!

CHunterX

this is great..!

jsc_tidus

@fenderfuel08: No kidding. I too started loving the bots with the original Unreal. I barely even played the campaign since I was always busy settings matches with bots. Then UT came out! :) The bots/me action was pretty solid in Quake 3 too.

Kaneda

Sounds fun if you wanna train on different levels of difficulty and experiment with different weapon/skill types.

Ardaihm

only time i played with bots was back in my counter strike days and they were a huge pain shooting threw walls lol but still fun.

Maj1nX