this is a day 1 purchase for me. Not because of what was listed in this post, but simply because what the fuck else am i going to buy? My PS3 is depressed because i dont play with it

ArmyofJuan

Fuck....

Now I have to buy a PS3

At least I've got till February.

Alright Gears of War 2, time to step up to the plate and show me what you've got.

Paustinj

While I do like the game as it is, I still have negative thoughts about it for my own eprsonal reasons. I know I'll be bashed and hated for saynig this, but Im all for complete innovation, not just upgrades to what we have. Better graphics, better multiplayer? There's a limit to how far it can go, and no matter what, a couple years from now or even sooner, KZ2 will be outdone. That is a guarantee. However, making a game perfrom completely different from others is something I believe lasts longer than simple changes to a simple system. Portal? Quite possibly will never die. Unreal? Mechanics in that game can barely be matched.

Is the game going to be fun? I have no doubts about it. But I'd much rather have a game that's just as fun or even a bit less, but lasts longer than Killzone 3. People remember classic movies for what they did, even though newer, brighter, better looking ones are copming out left and right. I want Killzone 2 to be a classic, not just played then thrown away.

NeonLight

@atrimus: I really liked KZ single player experience. If they can match or exceed that, then it's going to be fun time come February. I was only concerned about the multi-player aspect of the game but this preview has eased my concerns.

Jun581 won't give you tree fiddy!!

still no split-screen right... that's the only excuse for me to play an fps on a console, no matter how good it is.

kraembaer

I look forward to getting my hands on this one. Nice job Fahey, how I envy you!

-EDGE-

can't wait. it's absolutely gorgeous, and from some of the previews i've read KZ2 handles weapons better than any other fps. if Guerrilla can deliver a solid single-player campaign, then this could very well be a contender for the best fps crown.

atrimus

@fenderfuel08: I know. That observation just hit me. 6 months left for polish and optimizing the hell out of the game. Hopefully in the upcoming weeks, they'll show a new environment. Don't get me wrong, I like what I see. I just want to see some variety.

Jun581 won't give you tree fiddy!!

@noliferuin (PSN+XBL): I think it might have the opposite effect. I wouldn't want to stand near those toilets when you're shooting at them. LoL.

@Morpork: Yea you'll always hear that. To them, just because KZ1 wasn't AWESOME, KZ will fail miserably on its face. People should take the game as it is and not compare it to past efforts of the developer.

Jun581 won't give you tree fiddy!!

Sounds great. What amazes me is this game still has 5-6 months to go before release...if the game looks and plays this good now I can't imagine how amazing it will be with 5 months of more work and polish put into it.

fenderfuel08

does drinking the toilet water recover health?

noliferuin (PSN+XBL)

*listens*
I can't hear the haters saying it will fail because KZ1 was "bad".
For the record, KZ1 was great.

Morpork

I want now! =[

Been waiting for ages >_<

happyshot419

Wow, the badge dealy sounds cool.

Đipic

So let me get this straight...

Killzone 2 is going to be awesome? Really? That's ridiculous. Those details sound really fun. As more and more time goes by, my want for these game just seems to exponentially increase.

dj_fantastica

Sounds awesome, this game is coming out in February am I right?

featherblade360

How many of you weren't going to get it day one anyway?

Heliophage

@____:
Yeah public beta info will be on the official sony blog pretty soon.

enewtabie(wants a job at Insomniac Games in NC)

i hope all these apply to the offline multiplayer bots as well. Its about time bots are making a comeback, but then again thiers still not enough split screen games to play with....you know....your buddies. Rather than a bunch of asses that you dont know screaming at you

lilnorris64

it will be online heh ?

bakura

wonder if tiolets start spraying water when I blow'em up

Dorikasu

Definite purchase.

TONX

"Greatness."

LISA FORWARDS

@zleilndka: Double confirmed.

I will buy this game. I will.

Thugmunk

Kotaku likes it?

There's a public beta on the way?

Day one confirmed.

(like I wasn't buying it anyways ._.

____

What about the water coolers?

Mr.DuckSauce

I really like the sound of dynamic missions. Also the spawning thing is great. That's my biggest annoyance in games like Halo 3 where you are either spawned in the path of a sniper round or spawned on the opposite side of the map while your team gets destroyed trying to defend the objective

Reibooi

@zleilndka: Day one purchase? I'm going to agree.

RageKage

Badge system just made my day. DO WANT THIS GAME. omg. O_O

Arelan

Day 1, CONFIMRED.

zleilndka

This is good, very good!!

rich8606

Damn toilets.

(insert Marky Mark as Max Payne glaring with angst at a toilet)

vid3oman64

Fully Destructible Toilets, I have waited a long time

excel_excel

Day 2 Purchase for me..

Why ?

Because I'll probably be left over with sign boards that says "SOLD OUT".

:)

btw, we want more multi-player vids!

xCruciaLx

Sounds like they drew some of their ideas from the success of Call of Duty 4.

Which. Is. Awesome!

.endejas.

I like the sound of this. the class system sounds like team fortress 2 class system. The different game play withing the same map sounds cool too. I think I may have to pick this up. It may not be day 1 for me, but I will wait for a few reviews as well.

Awoken

@atrimus: Agreed. Something different from the current slew of industrial environments would be lovely. From what I've seen of the game, it's got a lot of brown going on. Then again, so did Gears of War, and that was fun.

Fishballs

The lack of splitscreen on a console fps is just inexcusable.
From Goldeneye to Halo and COD4, what the hell were the KZ2 devs thinking?

R0YB0T

The original KZ had split-screen right?
I really hope they put it in the sequel too.

Horusz

Sounds like they took a lot of inspiration from Battlefield 2, which is good - improve on what is already a fun formula.

I'm buying this...probably day 1 but then again I buy most games I anticipate day 1.

Candlejack

@kraembaer: Sucks to be you then. I'll be happy playing KZ2 either way.

mfwahwah

@Passa: Really? Which war did you go that was colorful?

I mean the language overheard in war is certainly colorful.
The locals displaced certainly are colorful.
The areas surrounding the battlefield are certainly colorful if they last long enough.

But the actual battlefield with its layer of floating dust and gunpowder from constant explosions, littered with debris, disarrayed and chaotic is anything but colorful.

zoesch

Dammit. Too slow for me. I'm the kind of person who feels Unreal is too slow, though. So take that as you will.

Ad-hominem

Fully-destructible toilets? Pah. In HL2 DM, you could use toilets as weapons. Well, gravity-gun-throwable weapons, anyway.

On the other hand, gameplay that isn't as fast as HL2 DM is definitely a plus.

Frank

War may be colourful but planet Helgan is not, it has a poisoned atmosphere, cloud cover everywhere and is a planet a human can barely live on. I fail to see why a planet with no plant life can be colourful.

dsmx

@Horusz: I read somewhere that co-op is getting patched in shortly after launch. Where did I see that?...

Ah! Here it is:
[feedonps3.com]

It's worded kind of funny, so I can't figure out if it's talking about split-screen multiplayer or online campaign co-op, but here's hoping it's the former. Or both. I'll take both.

jtyson

@Passa: Don't forget anything using Unreal Engine, yep, instant map restarts without loading... Is that even a noteworthy feature to mention? It's sure neat to discover if you've been playing Source based games for a while but it hardly makes or breaks a game...

Agnates

Uhh.. while these are nice 'features', they're far from new and I can't possibly see how they would increase expectations for the game.

You can spawn with your squad leader, wow. Pretty sure BF2 had that all covered back in 2005.

It doesn't reload the map when changing rounds, well personally I'd be more interested if they had ultra fast loading of new maps between rounds but anyway..

You can customise your load-out kit, done countless times. They did give it a pretty new name though, I hate it when devs do that ('deathmatch' sounded perfectly fine Bungie.)

The game still has that major glaring issue with the art-style too. War is colourful folks. Personally I think the visual design in general is rather piss poor, almost worse than Gears from what I've seen.

Passa

@NeonLight: Call of Duty 4 didn't really re-invent the wheel and that game is classic to me. I think, as time goes by, people are going to remember Call of Duty 4 as a great acheivement because, guess what, it was fun as hell. You can say the same for any of the games that has been released. Bioshock, Halo, Metroid Prime.

Jun581 won't give you tree fiddy!!

Scout ? Medic ? Engineer ?
Wow a complete Ripoff

Hellicus

I'm probably goin to buy it. It doesn't look like they are gunna pull a 'Lair'(look good but game controls suck) with this game.

Stikasasn

@jtyson: Haha nominee for a nominee.

I seem to recall one of the few big complaints about halo was that it was too colorful. So people are going to bitch either way. For me i like kz2's art direction.

snakepliskin

@Passa: "War is colourful folks."

I nearly pissed myself when I read that. Uhhhp, wait... yep, there it goes.

"Like, seriously you guys, have you ever been at war? Ya'know, in THE SHIT? I'm talkin' knee-deep in THE SHIT! No? Well then lemme tell you a little something about what it looks like. It looks like... after a rain storm. You know, when the rainbow comes out? There's Charlie runnin' around everywhere, your buddy next to you just got blown to bits, and the sky looks like a box of crayola motherfuckin' crayons man! It's some SERIOUS SHIT, man!"

I suppose I'll state the obvious and point out that the fictional war being depicted in this game does not take place on Earth. I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that you haven't been to Helghan during war times (I hear it's lovely during the Spring), but maybe you have something you'd like to share with the rest of us...?

jtyson

@Passa: Well halo 3 didnt exactly have any new features but that doesnt stop it from being fun. Game recordings was done by bf2 for instance although most people ignore that fact and credit bungie with the invention. Who cares who had it first or who used the idea already. As long as it is implemented well and plays well people will play it and thats the bottom line.

snakepliskin

@Hellicus: Your right, the Army should sue.

belo

@R0YB0T:

They're doing their best for the game to look the same from single player to multiplayer. Having to render two separate perspectives at the same time would be too much and do a ton of slowdown.

Besides, I haven't used split screen on a game in a LONG time. It feels like an outdated mechanic and I hate halving my field of view. While it's great to have the option and all, it's not like it's the one feature that will make or break a game.

PapaBear434

Yep, this sounds awesome. I'm all about classes, and being able to cross-platform them so you're not completely vulnerable sounds great.

PapaBear434

@Passa: Class clown is in town!

I don't know what war you were in but generally its not colorful. In the battlefield series, Wake Island is indeed somewhat colorful, but in urban environments its not.

And lets not forget about the setting assigned by the game's story.

Surfaced

@snakepliskin: Yeah, you're never going to win either way.

To me, the color in Halo 3 fits. It wouldn't fit in a typical war game, but it's not really a war game, and it's not too focused on realism.

For Killzone 2, the game is a lot more gritty and focused on the realistic war experience, so I agree, I think the color scheme works.

I'm not going to hold my breath, BUT there's a small possibility that some of the other levels that haven't been shown yet are slightly more... uh... vibrant.

jtyson

@Passa:

(*__*)

____

I was gettin it day 1 anyway (I loved KZ one, haters will hate) this just sweetens the pot.
I read somewhere (EGM I think) that The game is on schedule to be finished in the fall, but they didn't want it to compete with Resistance 2 and Gears2, so they rescheduled and now have 6 months to polish the shit out of it.

RaepGoblin

looking forward to both single and multiplayer. I guess this will be the "cod4" im 2009 for the PS3

McLogo

I'd like to see them try to stretch the environment of Helghan, and try to show small traces of what would stand out as beautiful scenery. I've seen all the game footage and bought any mag tgat had kz2 articles lol(btw I'm really really looking forward to this game). But I thin kif they can pull off showing small bits of natural beaty of Helghan, it's do a world of wonders. Now I'm not talking rainbows here, perhaps a stage could be almost permanently lit up purple and blue by lightning intensley heavy lightning storms or something. For anyone who has been out in a storm like that, it's actually quite amazing to see, despite it's chaos. As far as the building structures go, I think Guerrilla backed themselves into a wall where it's going to take alot for the urban scenery to really stand out.

I'm thinking back to the original KZ2 gameplay trailer (not the grpahical target one, last year's E3 one). A the start, the skies look so bright and vibrant, blue sky and white clouds everywhere before they descend into the battle..

Just saying, there's gotta be some beauty on that planet somewhere, and if they don't go the extra mile to show it off it's gonna be some disappointing.

Grandreaper999

I have to agree that I wish split screen were there. I may sound like a fogey but I always will enjoy playing games more with my real life friends than some online folks I've never met. Which is why I love the split screen option in Warhawk.

Ah welll.

Still sounds really awesome.

walrusbrown

Resistance has spawning near squad, thing is most of the players are too dumb to realise you can choose squads for it to work. Or too busy working those glitches and ruining the online gameplay. Pls KZ2 - stop the glitchers

candygirl_fangirl

@Passa:

sigh.....one question...are you a Halo fan? don't lie now...if you are then GTFO. Originality is the last thing you should be talking about.

Metron144

sounds very yummy.

now i just need a ps3 O_O ....

SamuraiG0SU

man, I think I forgot those 12 years of english classes. If anyone can make sense of that last post you deserve a medal lol.

Grandreaper999

lets hope that ps3 price cuts comes before this game comes out. Then this'll be a day one purchase for me

FredThePanda

@Passa:

do you watch movies? or read books? or listen to music?

you will find that in all 3 mediums, there are varying styles. everyone under the sun is entitled to design their games as they see fit. the last time i checked, i don't remember anyone pissing on halo for being a bright and colorful space marine shooter. halo has stuck to its art direction for better or worse, there people who hate it and people who like it. The closest FPS to realism we have seen close to war is Call of Duty, which honestly is not even a perfect portrayal if you even watch war documentaries. Hollywood does not do war justice, its not this colorful fantasy that evryone makes it out to be. your argument about realism is quite moot.

@Grandreaper999: that would be interesting to see. good points.

@NeonLight: play KZ2 first before we even start talking about KZ3. your questioning its validity without even getting to play it.

@belo: "Your right, the Army should sue"
that was full of win. someone get me phoenix wright on speed dial.

zanzibarlegend

Wait did Kotaku just say something positive? This game must actually be good?

DeathBeforeDishonor

@excel_excel:
Would never have been possible without *grabs megaphone* THE POWER OF THE CELL PROCESSOR!

=P

def PD

Killzone 1 = best weapons animations ever. Also nice varied environments with a Saving Private Ryan feel. A lot of nice things said about this title in the article. That must have hurt.

Hatchetforce

day one purchase for me. :)

thegriefer

I've been waiting for a FPS to get me excited about playing FPSs again. Still burnt out from all the FPS games of 2007. If the beta is any good, I may get in on this.

DXY!

I remember playing the original and being blown away by how terrible it was, after all that hype. Wooden controls and gameplay. Bleh.

This, however, looks better and better.

sir_carrot

played the single player today... i was just speechless how good and how much fun this game is... :o

day 1 purchase me thinks.

Deenight

Point 4 is very important to me after playing CoD4's smallest level and dying from a random respawn on 5 damn grenades. Lol. Fun? Hell yea, but at least I can choose where Ill spawn on the grenades.

R3load

..so you can choose where you spawn?

Good idea, but what about spawning behind your opponent? Doesn't seem too fair to me -

newtype2011

@ArmyofJuan:
Ah, the inevitable "I dunt plays with my psthird" post. If you don't play your PS3, it's your fault, not anyone else's. If in this fall of 2008 you can't find anything to be excited about, well then, I feel sorry for you as a gamer.

DustySword

i like that this game runs smooth.
i wasn't a fan of the first Killzone, it had a cool story but the game played like horseshit. it ran at like 7fps.

kevinl

kotaku with something positive to say about sony? what the hell is going on!

Hugh Jass

@ArmyofJuan: Meanwhile everyone's being worried about their wallets becoming paper-thin from buying everything awesome that is about to be published on the PS3.

somarix

Good that Sony is releasing KZ2 months after R2. But I'll be left wondering how to allocate my multiplayer time.

somarix

This has me extra excited when a Kotaku writer has good impressions of a game. You guys spell out the goodness and suckage with equal weight, so I have fewer worries about KZ2 as a day one buy.

But if you do see the suckage don't forget to pass it along!

crashlanding

won't lie, this sounds awesome.

..unfortunately this isn't the kind of game i'm any good at, and so i probably will not even try it.

but still.. cool!

joeloliol

@Morpork: fully agreed. kz1 was good.

Devil240Z

And while waiting, I reccomend something that'll sate your appetite till Killzone 2 comes. Look up and download Celestial Impact on moddb.com. The makers need your support.

Tye-The-Czar

lol, It must have pained kotaku to write something this positive about a PS3 game.

thereapersson

The only thing is two things 1. are their knifes and 2. do they have the same or similar killing anims as the first one. (love knife killing in killzone)

ttstnobasee

More dual job elements making it into FPS's from RPGs eh. Guess customization's never been a bad thing to offer.

@thereapersson: You must have missed all the MGS/LBP/whatever coverage that's been on the site.

There are editors with noticeable biases, but posts like yours definitely don't help improve the image of anything, either. Yes, indeed, there are times when it's wiser to say nothing -- or at least, say it in more covert ways.

muu

@Morpork: I think Guerilla admitted tey rushed KZ1 a bit. KZ:liberations for the PSP was good. A bit short though but good nonetheless.

Killzone 2 should be coming along quite nicely now. Though the "Halo or "insert ___ killer" tag it's been getting is a label it shouldn't even have.

Bots,manual respawn, awesome graphics, destructible toilets...Now add in some FMV with some tits and it's all set! I kid! =D

@thereapersson: @Hugh Jass: Really? I'm pretty sure Kotaku isn't against the PS3 or Sony itself. Heck I even remember Crecente's impression of LittleBigPlanet. He was gushing all over it. I literally thought he was going to be dry-humping it (not that it's not warranted mind you. LBP looks amazing). And people here were calling him |Sony Uber fanboyz!" or something to that effect.

The only editor here who posts flack about Sony is Luke. Even then, he posts flack about everything. =)

excaliburps

I'm rather impressed with what Guerilla has produced. They've come fairly close to the pre-rendered target video and have shown rather smooth and immersive gameplay. It appears that I will indeed be purchasing this title on day one.

B33

yes, we shall make the toilets pay, and it wont be preety, id best stock up on cheap burritos and make my attack super effective.

N3v3r.kNows.b3st.

Can't wait for this game.

lenandude

I love FPS's and i have a PS3, so this is a definite must-buy for me. Looks awesome from everything i've seen so far.

mufasa

i really want this. alot.
tho as much as i did enjoy killzone 1, it had a good number of problems. but with the amount riding on this for sony, not to mention the immensely large budget it must have, plus what i've seen so far, i have very high hopes.

mr_ace

@Passa: "The game still has that major glaring issue with the art-style too."

Ha! Ha ha ha! You seem to know a lot about this, so why didn't Guerrilla hire you as their art director? What a bunch of morons!

argosy

@R0YB0T: i know. developers skipping splitscreen these days is driving me nuts.

argosy

@excaliburps: do you visit this site daily? maybe then you would notice. i have both systems so i have no affiliation. if i wanted bias i would just go to xbox360fanboy.com i dont need that crap here yet it happens all the time.

Hugh Jass

Physics and graphics are just awesome.
Screw the people calling me a graphic whore - better engine with improved physics and visuals = much better immersion in the game.

tehFluffz

@muu:

Do you mean the MGS coverage where they couldn't quit beating the drum about the NDA? DO you mean the MGS coverage where this site decided to publish an article the likes of which I have never seen published for another game called "Lowest MGS Score yet" Kotaku didn't seem to care how little truth was involved in allegations concerning MGS4. They don't even recant these things but often just pretend they never happened. Damage done.

Hatchetforce

@Hugh Jass: Yes I do visit it daily.Heck, I refresh the site every few minutes. I don't comment on all the posts though.

I really don't notice anything concerning the PS3. I mean yeah there was the whole HOME fiasco but other than that, they've been trashing Wii's waggle and other things. Maybe it's just me and I don't see it but I don\t think whatever I say here will change your mind. =D

In any case, this post is something positive for a PS3 game. So that's something to be happy about right?

excaliburps

@tehFluffz: Exactly. Good gameplay only takes you so far before you realize you've been spoiled by all the next-gen technology out there and actually want your games to play AND look great at the same time.

It's why I don't own a Wii. Well, that and the fact that its game library consists of 98% shovelware. If I want to play games with outdated-looking graphics, i'll pop in a few PS2 or Dreamcast titles for nostalgia.

thereapersson

I love the idea of the spawn mechanics. It sounds like what was done in the Battlefield games, but it worked well because then you didn't always spawn in the middle of a big clusterfuck.

CoD 4 and Resistance always pissed me off because it was always "Spawn, live for about 10 seconds, get offed, repeat until you quit the game out of frustration"

I really can't wait to see how this game fares when it is finally released. I'm glad they have delayed it thus far because it really gave them time to see what the competition was doing and then see how they can improve on it and make it more fluid.

thereapersson

I'm very interested in seeing how the dynamic missions pan out.But the multiple spawn points are probably inspired by Battlefield Bad Company's excellent multiplayer.

Sugreev2001

I'll be on this like a bad rash!

GOD

Points 5, 4 and 3 could be summarized as: "It's like Battlefield".

Protector one

@MlstrmMephisto:

@zleilndka: I'll if I can kill someone to have it earlier... god, I want this game to much.
They should have changed R2's date instead of Killzone :P

I'll SEE if i can kill someone to have it earlier... god, i want this game SO much.

Fuck this keyboard >_>

MlstrmMephisto

@zleilndka: I'll if I can kill someone to have it earlier... god, I want this game to much.
They should have changed R2's date instead of Killzone :P

MlstrmMephisto

Wasn't too impressed with the first one and this one dissapointed me when they knocked it down a notch from the CGI. The story still seems like it'll be basic but I do think there's a lot of good stuff happening with the game too. I love the choice of spawn points, the graphics are still good and it'll be a fun FPS most likely.

Llost

I wonder what the frame rate for this game is???? It looks amazing so I hope it doesn't slow down like most online games do when there is a lot of action... *cough*Rainbow Six Vegas 2*cough*....

R6V2 is a pathetic attempt at a game I'm sure that Killzone will do it right I mean we still have to wait like half a year for this game.

Assassin_Kensei

I can't wait for Killzone 2, this game is looking mighty good.

NYKnicker

@Passa: "The game still has that major glaring issue with the art-style too. War is colourful folks. Personally I think the visual design in general is rather piss poor, almost worse than Gears from what I've seen." LOL Passa obviously has fond memories of the Napoleonic campaigns! Why don't the ISA wear bright red and the HGH could wear bright blue? With feathers in their hats! How about reading about the Somme,Passchendaele,the Russian Front. How colourful were they? And you feel that the art direction of Killzone 2 is only slightly better than Gears of War? Well that's excellent then as most people I know think that GoW is a beautifully designed and stylised game. I wonder what you do creatively that gives you the right to judge these games as harshly as you do?

stagga

Is there splash damage with a toilet kill?

@sir_carrot: Agreed.
Wooden controls and Gameplay in KZ1.

Hope KZ2 is better.

f1r3f0g

Looks like they stole a majority of those new features from Battlefield 2142. THAT game is so awesome when you have a great system. As for KZ2, not bad.

Traczyk

Sounds like the multiplayer has potential. I also like how cover is first-person-view still. Could be pretty good, if I pick a PS3 before it comes out I'll definately give it a look.

Karl Marx Vladimirs Linens

This might be the game that makes me go over to the dark corner of my basement and get out my ps3.

alex_mcg

interesting...i have this game eyeballed as the biggest let down of this generation. I am feeling a little more positive now. I cant help but wonder how it will stand up against cod5 though (and no...i do not mean cod:waw)!

pinshot