@Kral2: I see where you're coming from but there is a rather clear cut line between difference of opinion and interesting discussions on one hand, and extremely lame and ignorant comments on the other. Maybe I'm being selfish but I don't wish for my top gaming bookmark to end up like youtube.

darbonne

@Musai:

cuz it looks like WoW with blood. thats it!

Arminies

I can see people buying small amounts of gold to get their RvR sets and mount. If there are lazy people, gold will sell.

But still, gold farmers in WAR won't find the same sort of market they've experienced in WoW. There's no crafting of weapons and armor, and some time into RvR + a pittance will get you an awesome leveling set.

Also, it's bloody easy to level and have fun at the same time, since PvPing gives you exp as well. So I don't see people using power leveling services if they even want to play the game in the first place.

cythas

@darbonne: The problem with digg-style comment voting (and previously slashdot-style) is you get massive same-mindedness. The community turns into a boring mush as opposing opinions get voted away. I'd rather have conflict, but without stupidity. :) Manual moderation should take care of that.

Kral2

I wish Kotaku would enforce a "minus" tab. So that people who come to post the recent "I don't care" and "Sigh" posts would be given bad rep and eventually (and hopefully) would come to the conclusion that they are neither interesting nor funny and just takes up space on an otherwise great blog/site.

On topic: "I'm going to go ahead an assume they used bots." They're probably getting desperate for good PR at this time ^^

darbonne

Eh, get a beta key from Fileplanet, don't give gold farmers money. :P

Kral2

@Ephemera:

Holy cow! Good tip! I want me a coupon!

Evil_Monkeys

@Ephemera: Ehh sorry for the double post, site lagged, did not see it post.

Ephemera

@Musai: Thats good to hear, I pre ordered but still waiting to get into beta :( Protip, if you want pre order codes, go to target. You can get beta codes for .99 cents and you get a $5 off coupon!

Ephemera

@Musai: Thats good to hear, I pre ordered but still waiting till the 7th to get into beta. Protip: if you want open beta access, go to target, you can "preorder" for .99 cents. Target really does not preorder but you get beta codes and a 5 dollar off coupon!

Ephemera

Dont get me started on Swag Vault. I quit playing Wow a while back then decided to come back a year later. I had them power level a toon for me, but the bastards used bots and got me suspended. It was my fault really. Then I was stupid enough to buy gold from them once and again I got supspended. They still call me almost a year later about once a week to tell me my gold is ready for deriVery!

Currently I'm playing WoW Lich King Beta and I also got invited to the preview weekend of Warhammer this passed weekend and although Warhammer is much better than the original WoW was at launch, it doesn't hold a candle to Lich King. Lich King = pure awesomeness!

Friscodude

@Arminies: how is this guy still able to post, have you seen his posting history?

Ephemera

WAR's economy doesn't seem to be too huge a part in the game the way it is in other MMO's. At least from what I've seen during beta gaming.

Tull

They might have used bots...or they might have just pre-ordered 50 copies of the game so they can start farming from the word go. They have no use for the beta keys as the stuff you get in beta doesn't carry over.

Anaralia

@Ephemera: Don't worry, they'll find that there isn't much of one. There really isn't a need for gold in this game, most gear/skills are relatively cheap. They'll actually lose money trying to gold farm in this game.

Musai

@Arminies: It looks "bad" despite the hordes of people raving about how fun and refreshing it is?

Musai

The gold farmers are already ready to crash the in game economy, joy!

Ephemera

@Arminies:someone doesnt come here often

djlowballer

i concur wtf

djlowballer

that's...just strange.

Ajh

OH GEL YEAH 1st! and this game looks bad!

Arminies

YAWN!

Arminies

@Arminies:

Why don't you try a game out before talking shit about it? Tool

Hitokiri151

The about WAR is: it's actually fun to progress through the game and 'play' it.

WoW bored me to tears as I had to grind boring quests and kill countless MOBs just to buy anything because the cat-assers and Asian gold-farmers obliterated the economy since day one.

When a game's fun to play, I fail to see the point of paying someone else to play it for me (how many people paid someone to win Super Mario Bros. for them?).

resvrgam

@Arminies: except with waaaay better pvp

belo

You can get beta keys from fileplanet for signing up for an account. Why bother with these gold selling scumbags?

KirbyMorph

@Ephemera: .99 Cents, what a deal! I'll buy 100 right now! The flashbacks of .002 Cents fiasco are vivid.

LeetChaos

I know I will buy the game, if just out of peer pressure as my hometown friends who are mmo players are going to buy it, but not sure how long I'll play it. Unless there is just a huge influx of players and RvR becomes a ridiculous spectacle of awesome the game doesn't seem that great. I like the art style and the RvR system, but the control responsiveness, both the reaction time of the game engine, and the response you get from your abilities (sound, graphics, damage) leaves something to be desired.

Chewbenator

@Arminies: Actually after playing the Preview Weekend. Id have to say i seen more blood in WOW then i had this game. WAR just seems darker. I am considering buying it though.

spectralpulse

@Arminies:

Now, now, just because you can't play trolls in this game, doesn't mean that it is prejudiced towards your race.

syafiqjabar

Why does Swagvault's logo remind me so much of Steam?... They're too similar in concept and could be somewhat confusing despite the different color schemes and orientation...

Looking at the image above, I thought Swagvault was an off-shoot of Steam. It doesn't help that they both offer the same kind of services...

neoyaku

Is it just me or is Swag Vault's logo almost exactly the same as Steam's?

polishq

They probably preordered 50 copies to start farming and are selling the keys. And don't feed the trolls, from playing this game in CB, I can tell you its NOTHING, NOTHING like WoW despite what the fanboys cry.

Hisdon

Mythic just edit adds money and items to swag vault accounts. Swagvault then cuts in Mythic for 60% of the profits.
But it's a secret, so don't tell anyone.

Tyrannical

Trollbait. It's like Jailbait except there's no upside to taking the plunge.

Ladi

Ive played the game for a couple weeks, ive gotten each class to lvl 5 or more. So far i think they have a hit on their hands, it wont take me from wow but its refreshing to see SOMETHING besides wow out there thats half decent.

Public quests are fun and rvr seems ok, they have some good ideas and the game seems stable for beta. the animations and sound effects need work, its cartoony and pretty enough to lure some of our female gamers, im a sucker for good warhammer fun so heres to their success.

Fociz

WAR is coming, and I'm gonna get me some. See you in the Head Start.

Lazz

Bigger Pro-tip: If you order from Target, understand that there was a printing error and all betas that contain what appears to be a O or 0 are actually supposed to be a Q. This cost me about 30 minutes of harming my keyboard until I found this news on the main site.

art_zombie

I'm quite curious to find out if Warhammer Online will have the kind of success like Blizzard's World of Warcraft.

NYKnicker

I would like to see how well this game dose before I decide to buy it.Only becasue in the past launch days are always a crapfest which usually is nothing but server resets and crashes. So I will let the people crazy enough to try it on launch day go through the head ache and once the company gets there shit together Ill give it a try

Retorrent

what I understand from all the reviews that have appeared on Warhammer Alliance since the NDA was lifted is that tradeskills are very limited and there is no economy system like in other MMORPG's, so I'm not sure WTF this is about...

Bluetribal

@polishq: @neoyaku: It's not just you. its a pretty obvious rip-off.

[storefront.steampowered.com]

(is there a way to make images +able like I've seen people do with video?)

SpasticSloth

@NYKnicker: Probably not. The game seems to lack the polish WoW had even in it's beta and combat just looks boring.

Dalren

@Friscodude: Lich king is just a change, nothing huge though. Just gonna make the game different and more and more time people waste. At least the beta is meh.

Shockadin

To play this game it was going to have to at least equal the fall console lineup and after closed beta and the preview weekend I just don't feel any kind of connection. Sorry WAR, we had a good few weeks but I'm looking for a commitment.

Grahamunculus

@NYKnicker: no MMO will ever have the numbers that WoW had but a mmo doesn't need that kind of numbers to be a hit. A MMO only needs about 100,000 subscribers to be a hit. I would say WAR will probably have about 500,000 at least if not more. The game is far more polished then WoW was months after release and it has more content that WoW had a year after release.

taftsearlobe33

I'll bet those 50 copies they pre-ordered to get the keys will pay themselves off in no time once they sell all the email addresses that sign up!

tk121

@AnujSuper9: Open beta doesn't mean free or open to everyone. Open beta means no NDA good try but you fail

taftsearlobe33

They'll be giving out Beta keys to Open Beta? Oh gee whizz, what an exclusive prize that'll be. >_>

AnujSuper9

So...give your email address to a gold farmer for a chance to get into the beta 2 days early? That doesn't sound like a very good deal.

CodeMunki

Open beta codes are sold at Target for $0.99 a piece.. (coming with a $5 off coupon, live game headstart, portable camp in-game item, and a ring that gives you fire damage) That's another option as to where they could've gotten it.

Dwapook

@taftsearlobe33: 100,000 to be a hit? That's pre-WoW thinking there buddy.

I wouldn't say that having only 100,000 is bad - its just that these days, if your game doesn't completely suck, it should deserve a lot more subscribers now that the gamers of the world are more open to the idea of monthly subscriptions for a MMORPG.

Anyway, if the closed beta applicant numbers are to be believed, there are over 850,000 people who are interested in trying out this game. Conclude what you will from that number..

cythas

Interested in trying out, doesn't mean interested in making a commitment to keep playing. I admit I'm one of the 850,000 who is "interested" in trying Warhammer. Just like I was one of the people "interested" in trying AoC...just like I was one of the people "interested" in trying just about any notable game to come out in the past few years.

There is almost always more people interested in a game before it comes out then there are playing it afterwards. Such is the drive of simply curiosity... oh...and free stuff. I'll try any game if I can try it for free.

PixelPenumbra

*This might get posted more than once... the submit button is acting up :(

I played WoW up until recently... my old guild (or at least our more skilled player) are making the switch to Warhammer. WoW was fund at first, but with the increase in jackassery, constant grinding, the arenas that made raiding obsolete (why raid when you can do that all day?)... killed it for me.

I had the chance to play during Warhammer's closed beta. The game has a lot of potential. I love the dark, Lovecraftian feeling of the game. It still needs a few more tweaks, but it's looking good so far (...vendors who don't sell a thing, but will gladly take something off of your hands, etc.).

My personal favorites: The Disciple of Khaine and Shaman

Mistrez_Mish

I played WoW up until recently... my old guild (or at least our more skilled player) are making the switch to Warhammer. WoW was fund at first, but with the increase in jackassery, constant grinding, the arenas that made raiding obsolete (why raid when you can do that all day?)... killed it for me.

I had the chance to play during Warhammer's closed beta. The game has a lot of potential. I love the dark, Lovecraftian feeling of the game. It still needs a few more tweaks, but it's looking good so far (...vendors who don't sell a thing, but will gladly take something off of your hands, etc.).

My personal favorites: The Disciple of Khaine and Shaman

Mistrez_Mish

@cythas: nothing has changed 100,000 is still a hit and they will still make a ton of money. WoW is a anomoly and it will not be repeated. A mmo still only needs 100k to be a hit.

taftsearlobe33