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Screw Comic Book Movies, Where Are Our Comic Book Games?
Posted by Luke Plunkett at 3:00 AM on August 28, 2008
So last week, I was taking a crap. Bear with me! And often as I do while taking said crap, I was reading, in this instance a comic. It was the latest trade paperback of DMZ, a series by Brian Wood and Riccardo Burchielli, which tells the story of a near-future US Civil War, where the red states rise up against the blue ones, and the war's frontline sees New York City split in two.
It's a great series, made great not only by the characters and storylines, but the world itself. The bullet-point summary I just gave doesn't do it justice. It's a believable world filled with real, fallible people, who are caught in the middle of a war that nobody really understands and nobody really wants to be a part of.
Anyway, the whole time I've been reading this series, and thinking of the world that Wood and Burchielli have crafted, all I can think of is: there would be a great videogame in this.
Not a direct adaptation of the comic, mind you. The protagonist - photojournalist Matty - sees his fair share of action, but you couldn't really make a game of it. But there's a game somewhere in it. Amidst the rubble of Manhattan, amidst an America torn apart by its political identity crisis. A game that's able to explore not only the literal world of DMZ, but its themes as well.
It's not just DMZ that gets me thinking like this. There are dozens, if not hundreds of top-shelf, well-written, good-looking comic book properties, many of which would make outstanding (foundations for) video games. Fables, Bone, Blame!, Planetary, Global Frequency, Deus Ex Machina, The Goon, The Walking Dead, Hellboy, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen (the Alan Moore variety, not the Sean Connery one), Tom Strong...the list could go on (and in your mind, comic book reader, probably is). Point being, there are plenty of great comic books out there that could be turned into great video games.
(Note that, from here on, when I'm talking comic book properties, I'm not talking Batman, Superman, Spider-Man, etc. They're not "comic book" heroes anymore. They've moved well beyond that. They're more "pop culture" heroes. I'm mostly going to be talking about series and characters that don't have Happy Meal toys and Nickelodeon cartoon series named after them.)
Consider this: If taking some of the strengths of a comic book - the characters, the fantasy, the world, the look - and dropping them in another medium has worked for Hollywood, there's no reason it can't work for games. Indeed, no reason it can't work better in games, as some genres and styles of games (RPGs, adventure, episodic titles) would allow players to explore the depth and diversity of a comics universe to a degree movies could only dream of.
Let's look at Hollywood. They have to crunch years, sometimes decades worth of a comic's character and story development into a two hour movie. And yet they're often (at least lately) able to not only make a good movie out of a comic, but also a ton of money. Four of the top-ten opening weekends of all time are for comic book movies (Dark Knight, Spider-Man 3, Spider-Man & X-Men Last Stand), while a string of other series - Superman, Hellboy, Wanted, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, V For Vendetta, Constantine, Daredevil, Catwoman, Iron Man, Hulk and Watchmen, to name just a few - have either or are about to be turned into major motion pictures in recent years.
Sure, this is partly due to the popularity of the franchises. Batman and Superman movies sell themselves. But how, then, do you account for films like Frank Miller's Sin City & 300? Both critically-acclaimed graphic novels, yes, but you can't tell me every single one of the millions of people who saw both movies also already knew about, and owned, the comics. Yet the films were a hit. Because the comics were awesome.
So would it hurt a publisher or two to start doing the same thing with games? Swallow their pride, realise that an adaptation of an existing work can bring not only great results, but great amounts of cash money as well? I know, there's a fascination with creating in-house IP at the moment, particularly from guys like EA and Ubisoft, but surely some of the smaller guys - who don't have plans to turn their games into lines of action figures or cartoon shows - could take an interest in basing a game on a comic series? Especially one that, as I said before, isn't as well-known as an Iron Man or Hulk, and is thus a lot cheaper to licence.
Indeed, only a handful of comic-to-adaptations spring to mind. Ubisoft's XIII was a brave attempt at adapting Jean Van Hamme's series, which had a unique look but failed because it was...well, a rubbish game. There have been a few Hellboy games - most recently Hellboy: The Science of Evil - but all have sucked, and none have bothered retaining either the comic's trademark visual style or mood. And Telltale took a crack at crafting an episodic series based on Jeff Smith's classic Bone series, before leaving it in the lurch to go make more money from Sam & Max.
Which is a shame. I mean, look at the pros involved. The vast majority of "original" IP in gaming is derivative garbage, both visually and in terms of structure. If you're a studio with a great game idea but a generic setting to drop it in, why bother spending all that time creating the year's 117th brown/grey world when you can just licence a truly unique one from a good comic series? It'll come pre-packaged with not just a world and a storyline, but a visual style and overall tone as well.
That's a big pro for a developer. It can not only help a game stand out from the crowd, but can bring an instant fanbase along with it (the notion that a gamer can also be a comic fan, and vice versa, being more common sense than radical relevation). But the pros can be just as great for a comics publisher. Games are a high profile industry, much more so than comics. A game tie-in can, from a business standpoint, help get your property some exposure.
And the creative team? I bet it's great seeing your comic brought to life on the big screen, or even in a cartoon, but comics don't create linear storylines. They create worlds. Depending on the genre, a game could allow the player to roll up their sleeves and really get the most of the universe that the comic creators have laboured over. Let them have deep discussions with minor characters, let them explore areas only mentioned in the comic storyline, etc.
Anyway, enough of the question-asking. Let's look at some examples of what I'm talking about. Or possibilities. Or wild fantasies, as I sometimes refer to them. Developers, next time you think an RTS set in a sci-fi world full of men, guns and tanks, why not think of something a little different. Like Jeff Smith's Bone universe. Scoff if you want, but the comic has factions, it has locations, it has battles - both in the main storyline and in the backstory - heck, it even has an art style to help you stand out from the crowd, its green trees and blue skies being more Sonic the Hedgehog than Supreme Commander.
Hellboy's another good example. Yeah, he's got a shitty movie out, and is about to get a second (OK, second is already out, just not out down here, my bad), but a game - any kind of game - that could capture Mike Mignola's art style from the comic in three dimensions would surely be able to sell itself. Plus, few games can match its setting. Fighting aliens in a metallic corridor is boring when you compare it to fighting a world-devouring worm in an Austrian castle. While you punch cyborg monkeys. In the face.

Comments (AU Comments · US Comments)
DexX
Posted August 28, 2008 4:23 PM
The Darkness was a good example, and I know there was a Bone game (two technically - episodic, I believe, though I never played it/them).
I think The Authority could make a legendary game on its own, and some of its individual characters would rock in solo games (in fact, I think Prototype andf InFamous both look a lot like unofficial Jack Hawksmoor games).
Has there ever been a game of The Tick? I see it as a kind of God of War with no blood and hilarious dialogue.
TC
Posted 3:46 AM 28/8/08
I've always been thinking the game industry should also mine comics more like Hollywood studios do... instead of mostly mining Hollywood.
TC
raiseplease
Posted 3:42 AM 28/8/08
We need less comic book anything, and more original I.P.
raiseplease
Koontz
Posted 3:42 AM 28/8/08
I would play The Goon: The Game. Most likely.
Koontz
liquid_kore
Posted 3:41 AM 28/8/08
@TheNexusRebound: Do you read The Darkness? How well did the game fare in capturing the comic book? I don't really read comics but The Darkness was so kickass that I have thought about checking it out.
liquid_kore
TheGuilty1
Posted 3:37 AM 28/8/08
What's wrong with the Hellboy movies?
TheGuilty1
igpx407
Posted 3:36 AM 28/8/08
They made a video game out of The Darkness and it was awesome. I've also read they're making a sequel to it.
igpx407
Absent Blue
Posted 3:34 AM 28/8/08
I still want a Blade of the Immortal video game, I was pretty mad when the first inkling of Manji in a game was taken away (Way of the Samurai, PS2, 2002, he was a hidden costume). Still, there's a lot of properties I've read throughout the years I'd like to see made into a good game that hasn't had any film or animation adapatation. But heck, I think about how *everything* could be a game, it's just my primary mode of thinking.
Great article though, I'd hope it does some good in maybe getting some developer cooking up their next project to lay it on the line and create a comic book game that hasn't been realized in another medium already. But I wonder how the transition will work, comic fans are very sensitive about their favorite stories. Even when a film is successful in adapting it the first looks always get bad attention because it's just different, regardless of the end product. Since games are typically so much longer and can explore so much at once is anyone going to take the liberty they do in a movie when adapting a comic? It could be a good thing after all, straight adaptations can be pedantic and boring.
Absent Blue
Mascott
Posted 3:34 AM 28/8/08
@dead_red_eyes:
You know, I gave a bit of thought to a Walking Dead Game, as a mod developer, a few months ago-and quickly decided it'd be a pretty bad idea. The reason people read the Walking Dead isn't for action or even shooting zombies, it's all about character development. The comic is also about Terror-and the kind of terror they're feeling in the comics-what is the world like, where is everyone, is anyone else alive-isn't really something that can be conveyed in a game. There's been 52 Walking Dead issues and maybe only 2 of them have scenes that could be converted to game format.
I mean, unless you want to play through the 4 months they were in the prison farming (Harvest Moon?) or when they eat a lot of beans (Major League Eating), maybe a minigame where you cut off the Governor's "little governor". (Cooking Mama!)
A lot of comics are like that. They're comics because they can't be TV shows, they can't be movies and they can't be books. And they sure can't be games.
Though I didn't forsake the idea completely. I looked up at my bookshelf and saw World War Z-containing plenty of chapters that could be turned into a great zombie game.
Mascott
TheNexusRebound
Posted 3:34 AM 28/8/08
I will say it once I will say it again. I need a true X-men game to harken back to those past greats no more movie tie ins. A Hunter-Killer, Witchblade and a true to the story Darkness in a 3rd person would be nice.
TheNexusRebound
Human Bomb
Posted 3:34 AM 28/8/08
Astro City would make a great sandbox GTA kind of game.
Human Bomb
coyote12
Posted 3:32 AM 28/8/08
@DonnieWod: Frank Miller/ Geoff Darrow HardBoiled not the John Woo Hardboiled.
coyote12
coyote12
Posted 3:30 AM 28/8/08
@theuglyteradon:
Having both Hellboy games for PS1 and 3 I can say you are wrong. The PS1 was waaaaayyyyy worse. The PS3 had simple game mechanics (smash everything) but it looked cool and it did have the Kriegaffe fights and other elements from the comic book series.
And the Hellboy films were not shitty unless you are one of those tools who goes to movies and hates everything they see. Guillermo did a great job on both.
And yeah they already made the HardBoiled game. It was pretty lackluster. All you did was drive the Jesus H Crysler around on rails and shoot things.
coyote12
LittleBigPlaneteer
Posted 3:30 AM 28/8/08
@Takamoto:
Oh hell yeah, Comix Zone was ahead of its time.
LittleBigPlaneteer
kryo
Posted 3:30 AM 28/8/08
Ooh yes! Gimme Hard Boiled!
Sin City is coming I guess, with emphasis on the graphic novels rather than the movie, which is nice. Marvel and DC seem to get their heroes in videogames too, but their stories and worlds we have seen and heard a zillion times.
Names that could do well even in mainstream come to mind: Moore, Gaiman, Gibbons, etc.. The potential is indeed there!
kryo
Human Bomb
Posted 3:30 AM 28/8/08
@DreadPirateRobots: In your preacher game would there be a part where you get your eye bitten out by God and the later meet a creepy guy with a giant woman made of meat???
I think I've said before.... as awesome as it is, we never need to talk about Preacher ever again.
Although..... A Sandman game??? Impossible. You'd journey between the worlds of waking and dreaming and venture into Hell itself to find your stuff. Then you have to convince Shakespeare to become awesome and interact with the rest of the Endless while destroying various skerries that have escaped your realm.
Actually a Myst-like game involving the Endless might be pretty sweet.
Human Bomb
spoonytrain
Posted 3:27 AM 28/8/08
From the opinion of a huge Bone fan, the telltale games were SHIT. They focused way too much on the childness of the series, but in my opinion Bone is like Lord of the Rings if all the characters were from Calvin and Hobbes. It is much more epic than they let on.
I'd love to see...a V for Vendetta game.
And a Watchmen game that isn't tied to the movie. Do it right.
spoonytrain
SaanZ
Posted 3:27 AM 28/8/08
I want a Blame! game but that level of awesome... It would destroy the universe... but its just so tempting that it seems like its worth it...
But decent people would have to intentionaly make it suck but that would also destroy the universe...
SEE WHAT YOUVE DONE!!!
SaanZ
The_Last_Skunk
Posted 3:26 AM 28/8/08
Also, I can't think of what type of game "Fables" could translate into. Too many awesome characters. Maybe a 2D fighter?
The_Last_Skunk
Takamoto
Posted 3:24 AM 28/8/08
A Comix Zone remake would be good :D
Takamoto
dukerayburn
Posted 3:23 AM 28/8/08
@buddhaman510: I agree, 100 Bullets is the first comic I think of when I hear this idea. It could be like a more coherent but still varied version of Killer 7.
@unknownoliver: If there were such a game in development I would be elated.
Another property worth exploring would be Concrete. I could see a lot of potential in that one, though getting across the nuances of the character would be pretty difficult. They could do a Indigo Prophecy-style treatment of Powers, too, or a Phoenix Wright take on Top 10. Or Scott Pilgrim, with XX/XY minigames and rhythm based ex-boyfriend boss battles!
dukerayburn
LittleBigPlaneteer
Posted 3:23 AM 28/8/08
@Nesagwa:
He's in Australia. I think everything is delayed 6 months over there (at least!).
LittleBigPlaneteer
The_Last_Skunk
Posted 3:23 AM 28/8/08
A video game based on the "Lore" or "Popbot" series would be awesome if only for the Ashley Wood art direction
The_Last_Skunk
Human Bomb
Posted 3:23 AM 28/8/08
@dead_red_eyes: Seconded.
Human Bomb
DonnieWod
Posted 3:20 AM 28/8/08
@sinister6000: you'll have to settle for stranglehold
DonnieWod
LittleBigPlaneteer
Posted 3:20 AM 28/8/08
@LittleBigPlaneteer:
Okay, so they're probablyy not like the comics but still!
LittleBigPlaneteer
dead_red_eyes
Posted 3:20 AM 28/8/08
@buddhaman510:
@unknownoliver:
@DreadPirateRobots:
"Acclaim announced in 2004 that they were developing a video game based on 100 Bullets. That game had a distinct film noir style, with some people comparing it to Max Payne. The project was canceled shortly after Acclaim went bankrupt. A PAL version was released but the game was unfinished, having a small number of missions and features. The game project announced by D3 Publisher is not related to the Acclaim project."
[en.wikipedia.org])
dead_red_eyes
Human Bomb
Posted 3:19 AM 28/8/08
Hard Boiled would be such a kick ass game (or for that matter the comic Kick Ass! would be a good game too). Bone could have been phenomenal if it had picked up more steam, and had something a little more unique to it.
Any Hellboy game that is firmly rooted in the awesome comic needs to have a part where he drinks rum.... with skeletons.
Human Bomb
Garo
Posted 3:19 AM 28/8/08
Although I would like to see Killy again, turning Blame! into a videogame would be very hard :/
Garo
LittleBigPlaneteer
Posted 3:19 AM 28/8/08
Nice article Luke, until you said Hellboy was shitty. The movies (both I and II) were great. The second being superior to the first. See it!
LittleBigPlaneteer
dead_red_eyes
Posted 3:18 AM 28/8/08
@87th:
HOLY SHIT! I never knew there was a Hard Boiled game! Japan only eh? Looks craptastic tho.
dead_red_eyes
unknownoliver
Posted 3:17 AM 28/8/08
@DreadPirateRobots: Didn't they have a 100 Bullets game in development? I remember hearing about some studio going under and it being scrapped.
unknownoliver
buddhaman510
Posted 3:16 AM 28/8/08
Weren't they trying to make 100 Bullets into a game? Are they still doing that?
buddhaman510
dead_red_eyes
Posted 3:16 AM 28/8/08
I would like to see "The Walking Dead" be made into a game.
dead_red_eyes
87th
Posted 3:14 AM 28/8/08
[uk]
+ Watch video
87th
DreadPirateRobots
Posted 3:13 AM 28/8/08
Bioware + Comics FTW.
DreadPirateRobots
ActualSimulation
Posted 3:11 AM 28/8/08
For a quarter of a second there, I was bubbling with excitement when I saw the (unfortunately) fake box art for Hard Boiled. That would be such a great game....
ActualSimulation
The_Atomic_Pod
Posted 3:11 AM 28/8/08
Earthboy Jacobus plz!
The_Atomic_Pod
liquid_kore
Posted 3:11 AM 28/8/08
I think a Lobo the duck game should be made. Or even a straight up Lobo game would be cool.
liquid_kore
wicko
Posted 3:09 AM 28/8/08
Hellboy wasn't a shitty movie :(
wicko
amaroth
Posted 3:09 AM 28/8/08
calvin and hobbes platform game would be AMAZING. i mean they could just do SO MANY AMAZING LEVELS
amaroth
Raian1
Posted 3:09 AM 28/8/08
I think the problem right now is that video games, as a medium to tell a narrative, is still in its infancy. For as long as the player is in control, the story is never really advanced. The player only participates in a simple scenario with a simple objective, and the narrative only really advances during the cutscenes.
We're getting better at it, but we're not there yet.
Raian1
sinister6000
Posted 3:09 AM 28/8/08
i would kill for a "Hard Boiled" game.
KILL.
sinister6000
DreadPirateRobots
Posted 3:08 AM 28/8/08
100 Bullets would be badass. A Preacher game would be phenomenal.
Of course a Sin City game would be sweet...but we'll see if Mad World does the trick.
But yeah...seems like only Marvel and DC get love from the gaming industry.
DreadPirateRobots
art_zombie
Posted 3:08 AM 28/8/08
I do this all the time... Sometimes with movies, sometimes with comics, usually on the john, sometimes in the shower. And I highly recommend DMZ, excellent taste you got there Mr. Plunkett.
art_zombie
theuglyteradon
Posted 3:07 AM 28/8/08
There was a Hellboy game on the PS1... it was probably better than the new game.
theuglyteradon
Nesagwa
Posted 3:07 AM 28/8/08
Was this written 6 months ago?
Hellboy 2 has been out since June...
And Science of Evil has been out on PSP for a good long while.
Nesagwa
tom1000
Posted 3:05 AM 28/8/08
Ya Blame! would make a sick movie live action. They are making an animated movie of Blame! though and i know this for sure.
tom1000
Morithain
Posted 3:05 AM 28/8/08
I would like an Invincible 3rd-person sandbox game please.
Morithain
87th
Posted 3:03 AM 28/8/08
Probably should have picked out the images better. There's been games of Hard Boiled and Bone.
87th
Fazuzzu
Posted 3:02 AM 28/8/08
I agree, a comic book turned into a movie turned into a videogame is usually the only way that the process is handled. We need more Red Stars.
Fazuzzu
savagenapkin
Posted 4:10 AM 28/8/08
I was just thinking about how awesome a Goon game would be. You've got zombies, mobsters, dragons and giant spiders. What more do you need? You could even play as Franky and use the "Knife to the Eye" special move! Man, that would be sweet...
savagenapkin
aphexmalus
Posted 4:10 AM 28/8/08
Where's my Button Man game?
aphexmalus
justinslot
Posted 4:09 AM 28/8/08
@Quilt: Yeah, I was going to say Sam & Max is a comic book game, a hilarious, probably under-read comic book at that. Pick up Sam & Max Surfin' the Highway and be amused.
justinslot
Quilt
Posted 4:07 AM 28/8/08
@BryanH: I would eat a live baby just for Warren Ellis to finish the last damn issue. It's been on the back-burner for YEARS. He could release it on a table napkin and I'd buy the damn thing. Just so long as it's finally DONE.
Quilt
Plsk1n
Posted 4:06 AM 28/8/08
Luke, you just won my complete agreement by just mentioning Blame, I could not bleive my eyes when I saw it on the main page. I have given some thought about how a Blame game can look like and I can say.. there is a lot of room for Blame to become a really intense game.. I think if you take Mirror Edge, combine it with Bioshock, sprinkle some Gears of War and add a hint of Shadow of the Colossus Colossus will get yourself a Blame game. Huge architecture, long travels (relativly to human time), Cyborgs, Gravity beam emiiter, Net beings.. it all adds up.
nothing beats a 3 km death blast from killy, what made the Comic so intresting for me is that Killy doesn't have to win.. he finds characters that can make him piss in his pants and focuses on running away. A lot of potential..
Plsk1n
Roudi
Posted 3:59 AM 28/8/08
Planetary: the Game?
I just came. Napkin, please?
Roudi
Combichristoffersen
Posted 3:59 AM 28/8/08
I'd love to see games based on Johnny the Homicidal Maniac, Hack/Slash and Sandman (the Neil Gaiman graphic novel series), but I'm admittedly not sure how you could transfer those comics to the video game format without having the games ending up as massive suckfests.
@TheGuilty1:
There's nothing wrong with them. The first one was pretty damn good, and the second one was, although not as good as the first one (I missed that mechanical Nazi guy), a decent enough movie.
Combichristoffersen
Skitch01
Posted 3:58 AM 28/8/08
Man! I've always dreamt of a 'Fables' video game, or at least a lovingly animated series.
Skitch01
brianewing
Posted 3:55 AM 28/8/08
When Hollywood continually adapts and remakes everything, we call them creatively bankrupt. So why then do we ask for more of that in games?
brianewing
Zentac
Posted 3:54 AM 28/8/08
And imagine what games like Crysis could have been with a good story behind them... hmmm yeah!
Zentac
BryanH
Posted 3:53 AM 28/8/08
I would eat a live baby for a Planetary game. Still my favorite comic next to Starman. The last issue cannot get here soon enough. Any day now...
BryanH
Zentac
Posted 3:52 AM 28/8/08
Just a side note, both 300 and Sin City are Frank Miller comics, it might be the man just draws incredible story boards for directors... I mean, the new badman films are largely based on the Frank Miller badman comics as well.
Zentac
Quilt
Posted 3:49 AM 28/8/08
"And Telltale took a crack at crafting an episodic series based on Jeff Smith's classic Bone series, before leaving it in the lurch to go make more money from Sam & Max."
Here's an interesting note. Sam & Max is originally a comicbook! It would be included as an insert in LucasArts games back in the day. Y'know, back when LucasArts kicked all kinds of ass with non-Star Wars games.
Quilt
Poison
Posted 4:37 AM 28/8/08
I'd love some R-rated, hardcore fun games of Lobo and the Authority. Hell, even Authority's supporting character Kev would make an awesome game.
But regarding comic games I'd say the exactly same thing I say for movies: you need people who understand the comic, the characters, the setting and what makes it special. You need fans.
Poison
Daisuash
Posted 4:35 AM 28/8/08
@Raian1: I understand what you´re trying to say, most of the games lack depth in terms of story telling, mostly because they prefer to focus on gameplay instead of story, which leave us with games like Gears of War or Halo, which are excellent games but their story is so-so. I think that when publishers start worrying more about the story instead of budgets, we´ll see better quality overall in the games, because we all know it can be done. Someone already highlighted Chrono Trigger, but what about Metal Gear Solid 4 or GTA IV, which have a truly excellent development in story and characters (I can´t recall how many times i was about to cry in MGS4, or how bad i felt when Roman cries while his cab business is burning) and there are a lot of other excellent examples who can be a living proof that gaming can get to that point and let´s hope it does...
Daisuash
Bernard McGraw
Posted 4:34 AM 28/8/08
@theuglyteradon: That game was supposed to be one ofthe most awful games ever.
Bernard McGraw
madpowerbomber
Posted 4:29 AM 28/8/08
@Quilt: It's been finished for a while now. John Cassaday just started drawing it, however, a couple of months ago, I do believe due to his contractual obligations with Marvel with Astonishing X-Men and such.
As for comics that would make good games: Savage Dragon, Body Bags, Black Summer (HAHA), Lone Wolf and Cub, Blade of the Immortal (I've wanted a 2D fighter of this game since it first started being published stateside), Invincible, Wolfskin, WetWorks, Strange Kiss/Stranger Kisses/Gravel, and Monkey Man & O'Brien are all games I would buy, or pay copious amounts of cash to develop as games if I were a billionare.
madpowerbomber
iam.gmo
Posted 4:19 AM 28/8/08
@Raian1: Did you ever play Chrono Trigger???
iam.gmo
dead_red_eyes
Posted 4:14 AM 28/8/08
@Mascott:
Well, I think it would be nice to have something similar. To where there's a hefty amount of combat, but also character involvement ... so you end up bonding with them, only to be killed seconds later. It would have to be a sort of long game for that too. I think Left 4 Dead will be the closest thing we'll ever get to a super suspenseful Zombie game, with a good amount of character interaction.
dead_red_eyes
Ragna Rock
Posted 4:13 AM 28/8/08
The Hellboy movies were excellent, but the second one had better pacing.
Science of Evil was close in terms of story, but it wasn't varying enough to hold my attention.
a SANDMAN GAME!!?!?!?
That WOULD be weird. unless you just followed the first volume and used a weird art style to try and come close to the art of the source material.
Amazing Screw on Head would make a game with enormous potential, with the body swapping integrated into the gameplay, that would be interesting.
Ragna Rock
misterdna
Posted 4:57 AM 28/8/08
There actually WAS a Hard-Boiled game on the PS1. It was never released, but I do have a copy of it and it was not all that bad. I mean, it was a driving combat game of sorts, and not really polished because it was never officially finished, but you can see were it was going, and would have been a great game.
misterdna
Dayvie
Posted 4:54 AM 28/8/08
Dayvie:
EDIT:
I understand that I have made the mistake in that Rorschach and (the second) Night Owl were not in the original Minutemen. What I meant to say was that they could expand on the original Minutemen and move onto the antics of the reformed NEWER Minutemen.
END.
Dayvie
laxdjames
Posted 4:52 AM 28/8/08
DMZ is awesome I recommend it to anyone does like super heroes comics and want something grounded in the real world.
laxdjames
riffleraffle
Posted 4:51 AM 28/8/08
@87th: BZZZZT. no Hard Boiled game, unless you are talking about John Woo's Stranglehold, which is related to the movie Hard Boiled, which has nothing to do with the Frank Miller comic.
riffleraffle
Dayvie
Posted 4:51 AM 28/8/08
@spoonytrain:
I was just thinking about a Watchmen game. As sad as it is, I image that there will be a movie tie-in game when the movie hits next year. I shudder at the thought of what that might include.
The only way I can think of a Watchmen game working and being any fun, without destroying the storyline completely, is if they set the game in the 50's and based the storyline around the original Minutemen. That way you could get some backstory in the game from the novel that might not be in the movie, and still have an enjoyable experience prowling the streets of 50's New York taking out Underboss and many other of the tales Rorschach and Night Owl recall in the Watchmen novel.
I wouldnt mind playing that at all.
Dayvie
jacksonmc
Posted 4:45 AM 28/8/08
@wicko: Thank you. Someone need to say that! I agree completely with what the article had to say up until exactly that point. That was a near perfect comic book movie to me, they recreated the world and the characters believably but without losing the over the top nature of it. Del Toro is proving to be one of the only directors with a real head for adapting these things. In fact I believe he's the only guy who's achieved a reasonably good representation of what the post was expressing. A complete take on reproducing the feel of someone else's universe while adapting it to another medium.
Actually Kotaku posted earlier about him being an avid gamer with Ico and Shadow of the Colossus being his all time favorite games. There's no way to fault that!
jacksonmc
DarkHavoc99
Posted 4:45 AM 28/8/08
Ahhh... The philosophical crap...
DarkHavoc99
Psudonym
Posted 4:44 AM 28/8/08
Don't toy with my emotions like that. I almost fell over seeing Blame! box art.
Psudonym
drifter13
Posted 5:11 AM 28/8/08
Dear lord, a Planetary game would be awesome, if for no other reason than seeing some of John Cassaday's are realized in 3D. It would be amazing.
drifter13
Insomnia Bob
Posted 5:49 AM 28/8/08
Mmm. Blame.
Insomnia Bob
fearing
Posted 5:48 AM 28/8/08
The Amazing Screw-On Head got his own TV series already too so you can't count him. Okay, maybe it was just a pilot, but it was aired on the Sci-fi channel at least once and it was freakin' amazing.
fearing
StephenTotilo
Posted 5:44 AM 28/8/08
Ahhh. Apologies to Luke. Somehow I missed his parenthetical. In that case, let me suggest that the Jimmy Olsen comics of the mid 20th century would be prime material for a game. As would the adventures of Plastic Man.
StephenTotilo
Kounji
Posted 5:43 AM 28/8/08
The Walking Dead, for sure would be a pretty crazy story driven zombie game. I also would suggest maybe Hack/Slash.
Kounji
StephenTotilo
Posted 5:37 AM 28/8/08
Yeah! Someone should make a Superman game. Or a Batman game. Maybe a Watchmen game too, if they can find the time.
StephenTotilo
Musoka
Posted 5:33 AM 28/8/08
Hey, last week I took a crap too !
Musoka
Golem29
Posted 6:08 AM 28/8/08
Watchmen Game Proposal:
Level 1 - Snap as many criminals fingers with Rorschach within 2 minutes
Level 2 - Tap A while playing as the Second Nite Owl to maintain an erection
Level 3 - Play as Doctor Manhattan, Hit Y to destory the universe.
Game Over.
Golem29
GlassAdam?
Posted 6:08 AM 28/8/08
@DreadPirateRobots: Preacher is my favorite comic series of all time, but I gotta draw the line at speculating that it would be a "phenomenal" videogame. I think it would be a terrible game. What about Preacher could be translated into any type of fun in a videogame? Nothing.
Just leave that one as a comic classic.
GlassAdam?
dadeisvenm
Posted 6:02 AM 28/8/08
For the kids who don't know. "Hard Boiled" as a game would be = GTA IV x 100. imagine every cool visceral scene in GTA on one screen n real time. your head would explode.
dadeisvenm
Shinryoma
Posted 6:00 AM 28/8/08
@drifter13: Planetary, most anything by Warren Ellis, would make an interesting game.
I remember someone was working on a 100 Bullets game once but it got canceled.
Shinryoma
Glare
Posted 5:56 AM 28/8/08
There's a Genesis comic book game if I recall correctly.
Glare
Sasquatch
Posted 5:53 AM 28/8/08
I would love to see a Transmetropolitan game. You play one of Spider's assistants and missions consist of finding drugs for Spider, talking him down when he goes insane, helping him operate after losing his journalism insurance, and making sure the two-faced piss-happy cat is fed and cared for. Now, that could be a fun sandbox game.
Sasquatch
FunKrusher
Posted 6:42 AM 28/8/08
Well I really dig the X-Men Legend games, they were the first games (besides X-men 2 on the Genisis & the X-men Apocolypse game on the SNES) that really gave me that comic book feel.
Wasn't really into the Marvel Ultimate Alliance, although the new one looks grand.
Actually Spider Man: Total Carnage was one of the best comic book games I'VE EVER played... Activision needs to bring that one out on the VC! That game was great and hard as sh!t.
Whatever happened to the 100 Bullets game? I have no clue how they could transfer the awesomeness of that comic to the game b/c it's a lot more than just shooting and f'ing things up.
The DMZ a game? Eh... the comic is okay but as a game what would you do take pics the whole time (if you play as the main character)?
Comics I'd like to see make the jump to games
Planetary - if the story could match the gameplay this would be EPIC
Battle Chasers - failed comic would make great beat em up
Blade of the Immortal - if you read the comic imagine this running on the DEAD RISING 360 engine. Shit would be wowsers
FunKrusher
shouryuuken
Posted 6:29 AM 28/8/08
dude, one thing i think would be cool to come along with a lot of comic book related games would be the rebirth of the beat em up. im sure a lot of publishers wouldnt want to risk losing millions by making some epic mgs4 calibur game on an unknown franchise, so they could test them by making beat em ups for xbla, wiiware, or psn. besides.. theyre just so fun..
shouryuuken
turkish101
Posted 7:00 AM 28/8/08
Fun Fact: Brian Wood, the writer of DMZ, used to do design for Rockstar. So that's why they're hip.
I don't know about a DMZ game, but others.... sure. Fables, Bone (Jeff Smith's art style in a 3D world?! fuck yes), Godland, Lone Wolf and Cub, Jack Kirby's Fourth World.... the list goes on.
Or how about the reverse? I would love to see a graphic novel featuring those cut-scenes (with more, of course) from Max Payne, the best part of that series.
turkish101
Capt_Billy
Posted 3:25 AM 28/8/08
Rogue Trooper was a comic book game, and pretty good to boot. Also, need I remind of the Darkness? It's a great idea, Luke, but I think we're still some ways off it becoming a common thing just yet.
Although, a few games now have reversed the idea and released comics about games, so stranger things have happened.
Capt_Billy
Final
Posted 7:30 AM 28/8/08
@FunKrusher: Battlechasers wasn't a failed comic. Joe Mad gave up on a sucessful comic to fail at a video game (Dragonkind for the first Xbox the concept art was great though.)
Immortal Iron Fist - beat'em up
Green Lantern/Lantern corps - RPG
Walking Dead - RPG
Battle Royale - FPS
Final
CheechWizz
Posted 7:12 AM 28/8/08
Just give me GTA in Akira's Neo-Tokyo and I'll never have to leave the house again.
CheechWizz
Spooty75
Posted 7:54 AM 28/8/08
Ugh...
Interesting article.. but if Blame! was ever made into a video game.. or Abara or BioMega for that matter, it would spoil the entire feel and style of the whole story/world.
Keep them in their darkened, broken world for the masses to enjoy... Some things are just not meant to be video games, more original idea's plens! Say no to Licensed titles!
Spooty75
onepoker
Posted 7:37 AM 28/8/08
I think you may have nearly pulled an elvis on the Toilet. Somehow you survived the blood clot in your brain but next time take a stool softenter that shit can kill you.
onepoker
Suzaku
Posted 8:17 AM 28/8/08
Oh, man. A Blame! game could make such an awesome game. Travel around this giant megastructure, alone, with very few NPCs, and massive Silicon Creatures, with a high-powered gravity gun that can literally blow craters into walls. It would be sort of like Shadow of the Colossus mixed with Resident Evil 3, I imagine.
@tom1000: There's already a six episode OVA loosely based on the series. It's very abstract, and was done as a sort of animation test for a possible full adaptation of the manga, but as I understand it, Nihei didn't like it and nixed the project. Now a full feature CGI film is in the works.
Suzaku
peAr nectAr
Posted 8:05 AM 28/8/08
I like this article, but I think that there are comics even within DC and Marvel that would make great games. "No Man's Land" comes to mind--could do a cool open-ended world where you (as Batman) have to go into the different villains' territories, which would all have different visual thematics and level designs. I don't know--there's a lot of untapped potential even within the bigger comic houses.
peAr nectAr
hitokirimaru
Posted 8:35 AM 28/8/08
lol at the Hard Boiled fake cover. I would buy that out of sheer ridiculousness
hitokirimaru
Cerif27
Posted 9:06 AM 28/8/08
@sinister6000: If you need a wingman...let me know..
Cerif27
Ultrasinc
Posted 8:53 AM 28/8/08
Yeah, where's my Comix Zone game!
Ultrasinc
Saxboy
Posted 9:58 AM 28/8/08
There are plenty of Naruto's and Bleach's and other Japanese "comic book" games, you're just not counting them :) If those don't count, and traditional American comic books don't count, then... well, I can't help you, because you're then limiting your definition to "Why aren't there more games about these lesser known comics?" which is pretty much a tautological question. There aren't more, because they're lesser known - the money goes where the fame is.
Saxboy
ArmyofJuan
Posted 9:45 AM 28/8/08
Heres my thing and this applies to comic book movies too: they dont have to be word for fucking word like the comic book. It's called an interpretation people. If we go comparing things to each other and trying to nit pick we would never get any enjoyment out of anything. People have to enjoy these things for what they are. I mean with movies you have around 2 hours to introduce the characters, get the ball rolling and have a decent finish.
Look at the hellboy universe. The new video game, the animated films, and Hellboy II are all in the hellboyverse, but they arnt trying to remake any of the comics. They are all independent from each other and all adding to the mythos.
ArmyofJuan
ila
Posted 9:44 AM 28/8/08
I'd like a Scott Pilgrim game. I mean, the setting itself is practically a video game anyway!
ila
Placentasaurus
Posted 9:36 AM 28/8/08
I haven't read many of those comics, (just the first 2 volumes Bone and League of Extraodinary Gentlemen) but I recently read some of Ben Templesmith's Wormwood: Gentleman Corpse. If they could keep the amazing art style intact, it would make a pretty badass adventure game.
Placentasaurus
Snake726
Posted 9:14 AM 28/8/08
Screw-on head is amazing, whatever happened to that?
Snake726
AntiheroKing
Posted 10:24 AM 28/8/08
@Skitch01: See, now there's a notion I can agree with! A Fables animated movie/series could be absolutely fantastic.
I also wouldn't mind seeing the Marvel Zombies story adapted to a videogame, or perhaps an online play mode to an Ultimate Alliance sort of game.
All in all, though, I would most like a well-done adaptation of either Zombie Powder or Battlechasers, neither of which were completed, and both of which were excellent stories. I'd call BC more likely, since JoeMad is already working on Darksiders. Mmmm, Darksiders..
AntiheroKing
jelloman581
Posted 10:20 AM 28/8/08
@liquid_kore: There was a Lobo game in development and was shown at E3 2003, but was never released it seems. Though Amazon still remains hopeful:
[www.amazon.com]
jelloman581
nitromic
Posted 10:34 AM 28/8/08
Man blame could be awesome with that gravity gun that he has in it. Shooting through walls would be sweet. Too bad the story is hard as hell to follow and I don't think it is very well suited for game conversion.
nitromic
Luke Plunkett
Posted 10:32 AM 28/8/08
@Saxboy: These "lesser known" comics are getting turned into $100 million + movies. Which aren't being made because the comics are popular, they're being made because the comics are awesome.
Luke Plunkett
Mascott
Posted 10:30 AM 28/8/08
Hrm. There are certain ways an Invincible game could work. (I love throwing around gameplay ideas for fake games.) Though it'd have to be much much different from things like Superman Returns. I'm thinking a massive-absolutely just disgustingly huge open world environment, because I mean Invincible can fly REALLY fast-Metropolis never seemed quite big enough for Superman in the Superman Returns game. Other more closed environments could serve as more story based places (Africa, the Sequid Ship....Mars.) and it'd be very Mission based, GTA style encounters, or even Mercenaries when you think about it. Once you're far enough along in the story, fighting people for Cecil is your main idea-and patrolling would be a big element too, as you see Mark doing it so much, ala Spider Man 2.
And here's what's better. We shouldn't have this game for another 2 or 3 years-the stories of 50 issues could fit into one game, and it could be ongoing. Either another 50 issues to another game (assuming Kirkman leaves us with another dramatic change like this at the end of issue 100) or Monthly DLC. Eh? Eh? (Though the DLC could be disappointing. There are issues that have little to no superhero action. How about an Amber dating sim?! Yay!)
Mascott
behemoth01
Posted 10:27 AM 28/8/08
Do we really need more cel-shaded games? Because that is the first, and largest, potential consequence.
behemoth01
Fenian
Posted 11:27 AM 28/8/08
quite a rant, you forgot The Sandman, Lucifer, The Authority, The new Dark Tower Adaptation and a couple more but aside from that I agree with wholeheartedly
Fenian
ArmyofJuan
Posted 10:56 AM 28/8/08
@Saxboy: these comics arnt "lesser known" if you know, are actually INTO comic books. And for the record, i think personally think it's common knowledge that when people say "comic books" they are reffering to american made comics and sometimes european like XIII. If they are reffering to japanse comic books then everyone just says "manga".
ArmyofJuan
gsilverfish
Posted 10:51 AM 28/8/08
Didn't Sega have a go at this on the Genesis? Chakan the Foreverman was based on a little-known comic, and Greendog (developed around the same time) was based on a never-happened franchise apparently revolving around a real-life surf celebrity. They also did a game based on Dinosaurs for Hire. In all three cases, the Genesis games have, at least in their presence in Google searches today, completely overshadowed their source material.
I don't know if that says more about the success(?) of any of those games or more about the obscurity of the franchises they were based on.
I guess the Red Star game for PS2 also falls into this category? There's no movie based on that property, or wasn't at the time, right?
gsilverfish
DreamoftheEndless
Posted 12:10 PM 28/8/08
What about The Darkness? That was a comic book game.
DreamoftheEndless
FunkyJ
Posted 12:43 PM 28/8/08
@Luke Plunkett: Do you think Sin City would have been made if Rodriguez wasn't a fan of the comic book, and didn't have the name, skill and money he does? Do you think Iron Man would have been as great if Favreau didn't fight tooth and nail against the studio's changes?
Remember, there have been far more bad comic book movies than there have been good ones. Howard the Duck, Cat Woman, Electra, Supergirl... all of which were STUDIO driven projects and given shitty budgets and not to mention second rate directors.
It is the studio interfering with the director's vision that creates bad film, and small budgets that make it worse...
Also Mike Mignola had input on the latest Hellboy game, and he specifically said he wanted it to be different from the comic and movies, so don't blame the game makers for the game lacking the comics visual style, thanks.
FunkyJ
Wii-Tard
Posted 12:37 PM 28/8/08
@TheNexusRebound: Darkness was an awesome example of comic to video game conversion done right. I'm as much of a fan of the first series, it was due for a re-launch anyway.
I believe this is why developers stay away from comic book titles- Rabid fans who hate because of small flaws in canon or simply because the game uses an interface/view that the fan doesn't like (Ie: First Person. If I where a game developer, fans would certainly keep me away from IPs.
Poor Alan Moore, he must be dreading the day when some the gaming industry gets there paws on his work. If he even knows or accepts the fact that there are new media(As in more then one art medium) of expression.
Wii-Tard
kylo4
Posted 1:06 PM 28/8/08
I thought the Punisher game was well done (aside from the violence censoring). The new Batman game is also looking good, and if they can make one that is open world, or any other one that is not based on a movie, the results could be great.
kylo4
larzini
Posted 1:22 PM 28/8/08
Nice manifesto, Luke. I totally agree that the licensing fees would be a lot cheaper if there's no big budget film with the same property. That leaves a lot more money to actually make a good game.
Glad to see Godland mentioned here, would like to see the look of that world in playable form. Also a big fan of Paul Pope's Heavy Liquid, color palette alone may even make the project intriguing. And since Brian Wood is front and center in this article, it's worth mentioning Jennie One of Channel Zero fame, with it's gritty black and white look included.
Also happy to see a commenter mentioning Green Lantern. I've had entire conversations with people about the possibilities of this game. As you gain more experience, you gain the ability to do more things with your ring. There's a lot of potential there.
larzini
Gunhaver
Posted 2:06 PM 28/8/08
oh God oh God oh GOD I would give so much money for a Planetary videogame.
Gunhaver
Mav
Posted 5:16 PM 28/8/08
There were also one or two Cadillacs and Dinosaurs games back in the day...
Mav
Mr.Bates
Posted 5:44 PM 28/8/08
I got a little light-head there for a second when I saw that Planetary boxart and didn't realize it was only a mock-up. Cheeses Kotaku, do you want me to have a brain aneurysm?
@LittleBigPlaneteer: Same here, I was enjoying the article and then he threw up some flamebait and I turned.
Mr.Bates
magilacudy
Posted 7:16 PM 28/8/08
Wow, I just reread Big Guy and Rusty the Boy Robot by Frank Miller and Geof Darrow, and was thinking I would want to play a video game based on it.
However if it was actually produced, most likely it would be a shovelware Wii shooter. :(
magilacudy
aeonzero
Posted 8:03 PM 28/8/08
I have been thinking for a while at what a Blame! game could be like, as it would be VERY hard to convey the atmosphere and weird/innovative storytelling. Also, what gameplay could be created around a gun that blows holes as big as cities?
Still, there is some potential there...sure there could be a lot of action, the enemies are like a big list of bosses, graphics could work if they were mostly B/W and maybe rendered in some sort of weird cel shading (see Okami). Still, so many things could go wrong.
As for the article, yeah, sure.
aeonzero
EloraHRanma
Posted 9:13 PM 28/8/08
For what is worth: XIII is a wonderful game. Great action design, beautiful graphics, good adaptation of the original comic, bad-ass kick-ass bosses, varied levels, wonderful music.
It's actually one of the best FPSs I've ever played, but then I think Half-Life 2 sucks. I may not be your average gamer.
EloraHRanma
Herbal23
Posted 9:10 PM 28/8/08
I would play Ichi the killer!
Plot Summary: In Shinjuku Kabuki-Cho, the biggest sin town in Japan, there are two crazy guys. Ichi is a coward and a wimp, but once he breaks into tears, he turns into a human weapon. With great martial arts skill and a blade hidden in his boots, he butchers a bunch of enemies into mincemeat in the blink of an eye. His arch enemy is Kakihara, a yakuza boss who's tired of everything, including himself. Only when he pierces, cuts, and burns his own and other people's bodies does he feel that he is alive.
Herbal23
Bichatse
Posted 1:30 AM 29/8/08
@Garo:
I was thinking the same thing.
But... I'd still probably buy a PSP to play it, if someone made that mockup a reality. ;-)
Bichatse
Ryodestined
Posted 3:10 PM 29/8/08
I think merging the two geeky universes could either be very beautiful...or the beginning of the end for us all. Seriously though, it a great idea if developers are willing to put in the time to attempt to make these concepts into triple-A games.
Ryodestined
artofwar420
Posted 10:40 AM 2/9/08
Hellboy 1 AND 2 were not shitty.
artofwar420
Pepek
Posted 10:11 PM 2/9/08
I finally played ICO last week, and by playing it I thought, that those guys who made it (and Shadow of the Colossus) could make Blame! just right. If someone could make it, it's them. And I think it might work really well as an ICO-style game.
Pepek