nice seeing all of this support from criterion, but to bad that all of it is going into a racing game.

tsukasa1288

@jfm3: There will be trophies, and ALL will be retroactive, since the save is locked to you via a 3-way security method. Go ahead and try to download a save for Burnout Paradise.

I'd recommend backing up your original save first though.

mfwahwah

@KingBroly: Warhawk does not really use and save game function. All your data is stored on the servers.

GOD

That's a good deal, except I'd rather own a disc copy

Wow. That's pretty cool I guess. I wonder if saves from the disc version will go towards the downloadable version (I don't know what Warhawk did in that situation).

KingBroly

And I was just thinking about buying this after the latest update news. Now its a must buy.

@nekura: I remember that from the 1up yours also, and I totally agree. It's unfortunate I just re-bought this on my 360, or I'd be all over that.

baxterpunch

@liquid_kore: Just kinda?

FP_slomo788

@BigFoot44: Wow so you kinda look like an idiot now huh?

liquid_kore

@Kato: IIRC, they ARE adding trophies at some point, and aiming to have some retro-active (somehow).

/checks google

yup: [blog.us.playstation.com]

jfm3

@SG79: Well that's the thing. Siren is not multiplatform. Neither is Warhawk nor Fat Princess. I guess the real difference will come with games like Heavy Rain. But I mean, seriously? And we don't even know that it will be a full 9GB yet (Doesn't a 360 disc have only 6.5 GB available?)...

FP_slomo788

@murph: I never sell my games and all of my gaming friends are PC only. Why am I a sucker again?

@SG79: yea that makes sense. I wouldn't forsee a PSN download of 25 GB...or would I?

Jun581 won't give you tree fiddy!!

@FP_slomo788:

But yeah, it's quite ironic. Especially that Sony started the trend of releasing full fledged games on the PSN with Warhawk. They've been simpler games so far though.

SG79

@00000000: Considering Sony has all but phased out PS2 backwards compatibility, I'm guessing no. It's unfortunate.

You're all suckers. By the time this drops, you should be able to get the actual game disc for $30. A disc which you can then let friends borrow, or sell later for a few bucks back.

disc > downloads

murph

@Candlejack: Same here. I think Midnight Club will be better. For shame, really. Criterion is doing everything to get in my pockets the bastards.

FP_slomo788

@: Is this the proof you need.

[blog.us.playstation.com]

FIRST!!!

Seems like a lot of people really dig these digital downloads... Why is that? If I had a choice of getting this as a download or the hard copy, I'd nab the hard copy in a second. Why waste HDD space when you don't have to? Just so you can spare yourself from disc swapping? Sacrificing 5 - 7gigs doesn't seem worth that trade off, but maybe that's just me :\

DirtySyko

Hmm for that price and on the hard drive i guess im in. Hopefuly its £20 or less in the UK.

ali_g_84uk

@FP_slomo788:

Think about it, it's a multiplatform game so the size of both versions are comparable. I would expect it to be around the 9GB range much like Siren.

SG79

Whoa! Nice! More of stuff like this plz. Really. I honestly hope the PSN evolves at this exponential rate for a long time.

PS: Anyone know if there are any plans at all to host PS2 games via PSN?

00000000

@Kato: Yea my only gripe with this game (the reason why I haven't picked it up) is that I don't enjoy playing it. I mean there's nothing wrong with it, it's a great game, just not for me. Too bad considering all this cool stuff they are doing with it.

Candlejack

I might buy this now. I wish all games came as Downloads

Rurik

@Suda51: and you don't have to drive anywhere.

Plus, it makes it impulse. I've been watching Paradise but haven't jumped in yet. If I can click a button and have it, I'm pretty sure I would.

karasu is my homeboy

Amazing news. I love the PSN, they are really gaining steam, and the quality is very nice.

Rubix42

Jesus. Nice. Add Trophies and I'd buy this over the 360 version, if Burnout was my thing.

Kato

@LittleBigPlaneteer: Hey, $5 here and $10 there adds up. Next thing you know you'll be buying LBP with money that could have been spent on prior purchases.

karasu is my homeboy

Time to sell my disc copy! I remember on a podcast a long time ago N'Gai was talking about how Burnout was one of those games that you wish was just always there on your PS3, and I totally agreed with that sentiment. Looks like I'm going to need to upgrade my PS3 hard drive soon!

nekura

This is awesome news. Like - totally awesome. I wonder how big it is.

get2sammyb

@karasu is my homeboy: Me to, especially sense you are always guaranteed the game if its downloadable, no more, "were all sold out!"

Suda51

Should be a little cheaper. Yes I realize I'm a cheap bastard.

LittleBigPlaneteer

The entire game? Woah that's pretty damn sweet.

Candlejack

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Fadakar

That's awesome. I love the Burnout series, but I never picked up Paradise. I'm really liking how Sony has been pushing PSN lately. I just need to upgrade my PS3's hard drive one of these days.

Neat. This title kept tempting me, but I never did get around to picking it up and feel like I've missed the boat. This might give it new life online and a reason to finally pick it up.

SeedyXX

@: All you have to do really is check the Playstation Blog. It's official.

flashtut

Mama Mia, that's a hell of a deal!

Jun581 won't give you tree fiddy!!

@: There's an announcement article on the PS Blog

libregkd

Whoop by then i'll have my new 320 hard drive but i don't know which version to get BD or Download

JackDaniels19

For anyone on the fence about it, also keep in mind that they still have two FREE updates set to come out. The first will have atmospheric conditions, a day/night cycle, and the already mentioned bikes. The second will primarily add an island to the already huge map.

olion597

Ok come clean devs. Is Blu ray needed or not?

FP_slomo788

Looks like digital distribution is starting to hit its stride on PSN. Good news. Now for me to invest in a larger hard drive in hopes that announcements like these will be a common occurrence in the not too distant future.

flashtut

stolen from joystiq..which got it from ea.com
[investor.ea.com]

Just read about this. Wonder how big the file size will be....

libregkd

Wow, good job at making up a news story. This isn't on Criterion's page, nor is on any news outlet.

I'm jealous of how PSN does stuff like this.

Honestly.

karasu is my homeboy

Now that seems like a good deal! Let's see how this goes! I might finally drop money on this.

siamgx

I have been seeing the PS3 version selling for $29.99 already in just about every store I've been in. The 360 version was surprisingly still at $39.99.

Sollus

@Rectangle:

Really? Wow. I've only got Siren (it's single player though), and it was none of those restrictions.

SG79

@:

Ok im gonna own you right now lol here is the source [blog.us.playstation.com] how could you say they made it up?

It will likely be locked to just one console and one PSN login, and you will have to be logged into PSN to play it. If your internet connection goes out, you can't play Burnout. And you can't trade it in.

Just like Warhawk, GT5:P and other "big" downloadable games on PSN.

But the disc versions have none of these limitations.

As a user, I don't get the attraction to this.

As a game dev or publisher, I see a HUGE attraction to this sort of scheme, though.

Rectangle

Wow. This is pretty cool. Hope this brings more people into the game. Microsoft take note.

hagridore

@murph: It's already $30, "sucker"...

HenryHSH

The main reason why this as a DD title is good news is simple.. laziness. Most of the time, I check what's in the drive and then browse my downloaded games. There are times where I have gone into a downloaded game JUST because I didn't want to get up and load a disc. It's convenient and a great perk for the system.

After all, nobody bitches about their iPod... "Der, why should I listen to the m4u when I can listen to the CD audio version?"

Same thing here. It's the exact same reason Xbox has an Arcade and Wii has a channels interface. The days of game consoles only playing the game that's physically in the system is rapidly retreating.

sheppy

I already have it. Darn. I think this might kick start the "real" digital distribution for games. I hope they all do this for reasonably sized multiplatform games.

Love how Criterion improves Burnout Paradise after it is released. Why can't all developers do this? Criterion is becoming one of my fav developers. Can't wait til the next bike update!

Why would anyone get the DLC version....does this update not allowed for those who purchase the disk? Because you can get burnout now, and get a physical copy for 29.99 already at Fry's. That's right folks....no need to get a virtual copy when you can have it in your hands.

karateka

This is the sort of stuff I love about PS3. The play ground is just bigger with PS3 I guess.

Larger space to fit all your toys.

No restrictions on hard drive size or silly pricing.

Can't think of any other consoles that will alow you to purchase a full current gen retail game from the consoles online store, and have it saved direct to your hard drive.

This is the start of something big!

Digital distribution sees around an 80% return for developers. Compared to the 30% at best from the current retail model. If EA can beam games to us direct and cut out the people between developer to gamer they would only have to sell just less than half as many titles to make just as much money.

Big win for developers! Good prices for us! Shit news for game shops the world over!

I'm quite worried about this as i run a game shop...

GOD

I like where this is all going. I think it's essential to have small single and multi-player games on the hard drive and sell robust single and multi-player games on a disk.

Laughin_Caulk

@FP_slomo788: Well if one game doesnt need Blu-Ray storage capactity then all games dont need it right?

@DukeOfPwn: Seems to be an error with the name showing up in the automated hyperlink. If you click "reply", just make sure the other commenter's name is between the "a href="#c7234857" and the "/a." If it isn't, copy/paste it in.

baxterpunch

What's wrong with the commenting? I tried to comment to BigFoot44 but it didn't work.

Awesome!

@: Wow, good job being a deuschbag!

This game will be awesome. I never bothered picking it up (I'm lazy). From now on, I think I won't come to the games; they'll come to me!

@Suda51:

I like digitally downloading just to give those fucking GameStop assholes the finger.

"Did you preorder it? We may not have enough copies in stock!"

"FUCK YOU CLOWNS I'VE GOT IT LOADING AT HOME!"

Is this the start of of the 'DOWNLOAD EVERYTHING' future the people on half the 1up podcast seem to think will happen?

@: Oh I see. Well, no that's completely false. I don't sign in when I play GT5P.

This is one of the things Sony does better than Microsoft. They don't limit their service. Kudos Sony, kudos.

tironabardheblu

@Rectangle: No, I have GT5P, and rarely sign in to PSN when I play it, no problems playing it at all. Where did you get that from? Or are you trying to spread FUD?

@Saint Anima: Proof:
[community.eu.playstation.com]

To play either the downloadable Warhawk or GT5:P, you must be logged into the account you purchased it with, you must be logged into PSN with that account, and you can only play it on the single console that you purchased the game on.

When these games cost the same as the disc based versions, and the disc based versions have none of these limitations, I don't see why you would get the downloadable version. I can see why a dev or publisher would want you to get the downloadable version, though. No re-selling the game!

Rectangle

@Rectangle: I doubt that. Maybe it would be locked with the specific User ID that you downloaded it with, but I wouldn't think that you would always have to be signed on to PSN to play it.

Just a guess though, since I never really downloaded anything of that size.

Saint Anima

any game that is on both consoles will suffer from the same size restrictions as a DVD because of Xbox 360. That means 8 gig max.

(Starts looking up how to upgrade PS3 HDD and then onto HDD deals)

AntiHiro

I own it for 360 and love it. Great game that keeps on getting better with updates. I am also amazed at how the PSN can do this. I would love for the Xbox Live Marketplace to do this if it wasn't for the fact that 20gb HDDs and Arcade consoles would cry when something like this is available.

Quicksilver4648

Yep well, right as the point about Warhawk is I'm sorry Rectangle, I've just realized I've the disc version of GT5P, have had entirely too much wine to comment on such a fine site as Kotaku and so offer my apologies and hope only that in some way my drunken misguidedness has entertained if not informed. I bid you good evening.

cool in concept ... until another game or update locks up your PS3 and you hafta reformat it, loosing all your downloads. Having to redownload a huge file like this will certainly hurt people's monthly download cap.

Lanhoj

Oh, woe is me for having to sign in to play an ONLINE ONLY game.

You can't really complain about having to sign in to play Warhawk though, that's an online PSN game. How else would they do it?

@Quicksilver4648: I've been a fan of the Burnout series since the second one, but I'm a little wary that I'd have to be online all the time with other players to get the best out of this, is this right, or is there a solid single player experience there as well?

wow that's mega... BIG!

Akmed

No thanks. I'd rather have the disc and then sell it back to some chump if I need the money. I really don't see the point of purchasing a digital download if I can get it physically.

Deft_One

@Rectangle:

you just need to have the password saved to the hdd...then you can play it on any account its been like that since the 2.4 update

Sony fanboys who previously thumbed their noses at Microsoft waxing philosophic about digital distribution think this announcement is "the start of something big"? BWAHAHA. Ain't no logic like fanboy logic.

Day Man

Thanks Sony for pumping PSN!.

I'm gonna buy all available PSOne games at the price of $19. Now beat that.

:)

@Rectangle: Wrong.

I have downloaded Warhawk, GT5P, etc. from a shared PSN Account. We can play at the same time no problem.

And I'm playing GT5P w/o signing into PSN or turning on my router.

Each purchase on the PSN gives you 5 download slots per game.

You can either save it so when your HD crashed or you bought a new PS3 you can DL it again OR you can share it to your friends so they can download them too.

xCruciaLx

@FP_slomo788: they never said they needed blu-ray. This is one of the games that didn't depend on the capacity of the disc, but i am sure that it was appreciated for freedom. but yes, blu-ray is needed. RFOM was about 15 gigs, HS was more, and MGS4 needed a dual layer BD, and that is only a few games that needed BD. If a company wants the game to be multiplatform then they have to minimize the size to the specs of the 360 or they will have to make multiple disc for the 360, which is more costly. so most games that are using the capacity of BD are late ports (that want to up the ante: oblivion, bioshock) or they are exclusives.

@Rectangle: Also, I can play all my PSN games offline. Thus, if I share my PSN games with friends, we can all play simultaneously offline, or online in LAN, or via VPN (simulated LAN, while they can be on another continent) if we don't log in PSN.
Steam can kiss my shiny metal *ss ^^

somarix

@GOD: Warhawk only stores on HDD your controls/audio/video/etc settings and the list of people you've muted. I have both the EU and US versions of the BD, all my progress from the EU version stays in the US version - but it still installed the 800MB (iirc) game-cache separately. I might wonder which 800MB data to delete ^^"

@Rectangle: ANY PSN game can be shared between 5 master-accounts. And most can be shared to a different region. I bought PixelJunk monsters from the US store, while I'm in EU (outside UK), and I play it with my UK account. Bought with a US PSN card, that I bought from a UK citizen, who imported it from US - because I can't use my creditcard in any PSN store..... LOL

somarix

Vroom is not a verb

LemmingX

Guys, I'm talking about the big downloadable PSN games. The ones that are also available on Blu-Ray. I know that the other small PSN games can be shared between 5 consoles. The larger ones can not be shared between 5 consoles.

Rectangle

For all of those saying that this is no big deal and that the disc is just as affordable, you're missing the whole point. This means I can buy burnout and run it off my hdd without the disc in the tray. That alone is worth getting excited for. I hope more publishers consider releasing their games on the PSN, it'd help give the game more sales and increase the fanbase.

BahaFS

@Rectangle: Ah sorry then.

somarix