Is it just me that think the weapons seems to be... a little weak? The sound is probably the the flaw in this case.

And thing that you need a number of hits on a tank with a rocket-launcher to destroy it is kind of old fashioned, couldn't it at least be unable to move after you shoot at the "wheels" from the side? =(

A bit more "realism" to the flamethrower wouldn't hurt... and another first person view skin for player #2...

So, now when I'm done bitching about the game I can talk about the positive things.

It looks amazing, I like the voice acting already.

Co-Op, finally. Hope they make it really good, and that something changes between single and co-op, but not in the Rising Sun kind of way where it seems glued on, two people need to do something at exactly the same time to advance.
But in GoW kind of way where there are different paths to go.

Kind of bold move to include a flamethrower and that kind of animation when you ignite someone, lets just hope the game get a fair rating.

RageW

Can we get some split screen possible?

Cheroro

@Adam In Texas: I think there's a bit of a difference between kamikaze pilots and frenetically beserk soldiers running out the forest straight at people that are shooting them in the head...

but hey, I wasn't there, so that's why I was asking. I just have my doubts ;)

MrBionic

great looking level. a lot of variety

Shabat0ge

DUDE THAT LOOKS AWESOME <3 Treyarch

ZetaCrossfire

Alright, done watching....looks awesome. Can't wait to play through it with a buddy. One thing that blows my mind though is whomever edited the videos....why didn't they just put one vid on top of the other? Why make the screens small as fuck.

KillerAJD

@MrBionic: The Japanese, the same people who would fly to their deaths in kamikaze attacks knowing it would be their last flight? Yeah, doesn't sound like them at all.

Adam In Texas

@dreamer3kx: This IS COD5, they're just not numbering them anymore, as far as I know.

Looks badass.

ZackieChan

@snakepliskin: Wow. You got it all wrong. Call of Duty is the shooter with depth.

Halo is the Michael Bay of FPS's.

Ad-hominem

@Ad-hominem:

Not hating on treyarch, just CoD3.

Everything in World at War looks so forced, the emotional response the game gives me is just flat. Cod 3 and this game seem to lack the subtlety that Cod 4 had.

RaptureScientist

Ive never really liked the call of duty franchise but for what it tries to do it does it well. To me cod is the michael bay of the video game world. You always know what youre gonna get and its gonna be fun but theres not gonna be much substance or depth. Which is why ive always thought it was odd that theyve never done co-op because that type of experience is something you want to do with your buddies where as a deep game is something youd like to do alone. So this should be worth a look.

snakepliskin

@archibaldleech: I thought that was keifer...cool.

JokesJokes

Looking Awesome. I look forward to this game.

Penchinon

Looks fun and pretty. This is PC too, right? (I imagine so)

elevenoverzero

I'm Staff Sergeant Jack Bauer and today is the longest day of my life.

archibaldleech

Am I the only one who thought the guy at the beginning sounded like President Bush? Lol, or at least a sound-alike. On to watching the rest of the vid!

KillerAJD

Haters!... COD:WAW is gonna rock on all fronts! Remember, its from the guys who brought you United Offensive, and they have more dev time now.

aggrostack

@MrBionic: Well, I was actually just joking around due to the unfair attitude towards Treyarch.
But, then RaptureScientist had to go and prove my point.

Ad-hominem

This is not Call of Duty 5, this is World at War, COD5 will be handled by the COD 4 peeps. Wrong title Kotaku.

dreamer3kx

the only thing i could think of when the flame thrower part came was of the medic in tf2 screaming "fire! fire!" and the pyro going "mmmmrphhhhhmprh!"

enchantedduck

@Ad-hominem: So you've pre-empted everyone's opinion by posting your own pompous and superior generality? That's showing them!!

On topic:

My first thoughts were that the animation was very stiff... like Counter-Strike back when. Then the action started, and it got a little better. However, was that what japanese soldiers did? Charge in screaming without any thought to combat tactics whatsoever? I'm going to give a, "hmmm.. probably not", but I wasn't there. It rings awfully silly to me though.

Granted, this is a point of view from someone that has a terrible time enjoying most FPS games as it is, so take it with that grain of salt. heh.

MrBionic

@Ad-hominem: pretty accurate for the most part. But not everyone of course

Ollivander

eh... I wish they would have made another modern one... I dislike all the world war bases ones.

Gravnar

I feel like making a "literal friendly fire" joke....

Double J

Looks just as uninspired and soulless as Treyarch's Cod3.

RaptureScientist

Finally. COD 4 would have been even better if it had co-op.

Master_Achilles

meh

bigsamboni

i like the flamethrower part.

resetbutton

Wow.

Solid_hedgehog

I can already tell what most people's reactions will be:
In their heads: Wow, that looks awesome, I can't wait to play it
In the Comments Section: "Well, this is by Treyarch, and not Infinity Ward. It's going to be horrible, and I'm not going to play it, because I'm pompous and like acting superior".

Ad-hominem

@Paulrules

What's always made the CoD series great was being just another soldier. My favorite part of CoD4 was playing as the American soldier. Soap's portions were great, but they just didn't provide the same level of entertainment for me. If I want to be some super soldier or some member of a special forces unit, there's plenty of games out there for me to chose from. There are VERY few games that actually can pull off that one-soldier viewpoint. CoD being one of them.

Corey

Been there, played that. Seriously this is getting really old really quick.

Pressvre

This game looks like it is on the right tracks but a modern or even futuristic call of duty would even be better. All the developer has to do is copy the formula for online multiplayer(with barracks and points and all that) from COD4 and this game will be a guaranteed hit.

bmac320

@archibaldleech: :D! KIEFER!

Arnold Rimmer's Garden Strimmer

I am the new Michael Pachter and I predict low sales in Japan.

:)

terminaljeremy

@RaptureScientist: I agree with RaptureScientist here. Compared to COD4 (So far at least) it doesn't look as awesome. I mean, in this you look like an ordinary soldier going through and killing stuff....haven't we already seen that before? In COD4 you were Soap along wtih a special forces unit rescuing hostages, proving support, and overall kicking ass.

I'm expecting high things from COD5, and if it doesn't provice the same experience as COD4 or a similar one then I'm going to steer away from it.

paulrules

I'm strangely torn. On the one hand, the game looks great, appears to play great, sounds great, and overall seems to be a fantastic title.

Why, then, do I watch the trailer and get the sinking feeling that playing it will leave me very bored?

I mean, is something wrong with me? When did I lose my appreciation for profanity and explosions? I'm so disappointed in myself right now. Ah well, I guess I'll just blame it on overused WWII syndrome, or something.

Cogito

that looked good.

schizorogue

@Ad-hominem: its not that, it's just that treyarch hasnt had a very good track record. COD Big Red One shit. COD2 awsome. COD3 shit. COD4 awsome. COD5????

granted this does look good. im impressed, but treyarch has fucked me wrong one too many times for me to just spread my legs willingly again.

Because in the gaming world, we are their bitch. We are also women. And if you question the women part, just think about how giddy you get when the new addition to your favorite game series X is announced.

I also didnt like that annoying sound in the beggining that sounded like it got stuck looping

ArmyofJuan

@Adam In Texas

Because, you know, Kamikazes weren't successful in destroying enemy ships as well as damaging enemy morale? What strategic purpose does running at your opponent so they can pump you full of lead hold? Oh right, none. The fighting done in the Philippines is often considered the most brutal part of the war due to the tactics used by the Japanese which involved no such thing as running into enemy gunfire. On the contrary, they concealed machine gun nests and took advantage of the natural terrain advantages. I don't expect them to ruin a perfectly good ambush by charging in with their guns not shooting at you.

As for the video, I really am trying to convince myself it looks good. It's nice to see so much going on in the background, but it also disturbs me how easily the characters are able to advance with little or no incoming gunfire. The previous games required that you took advantage of cover; they just stand out in the open and shoot. Where's the fun in that?

Corey

So from the sound of it, it's going to be live/System-link co-op only? Shame if it is, it's getting harder and harder to find things to play with my husband. ; ;

SilentSeraphin

Pros:
Co-op looks like it could be fun.
Flamethrower looks graphically awesome.

Cons:
Character movement looks horrible (both first and third person). I mean, there is that two handed gun where one is off to the side (sorry, not a gun person), when he has that equipped the movement seems as tho you're floating.

Locataions all look pretty generic. Almost as if they just took textures from old COD games and slapped them in. Its hard to put my finger on, but they just look 'off'.

But thats really all I can see from such a small video. :/

Khabi

hmm call of duty 5?I though it was call of duty world at war...hmmm I don't see no 5 in the title...I wonder

DespisedMC

Japanese rushes are going to get really annoying. I can tell already. I'm still skeptical about the entire game, and I have a feeling there won't be a demo so everyone will buy without trying.

RageKage

This same video was posted at E3

[www.gametrailers.com]

actually even Gametrailers.com posted it twice. Why are they putting off old gameplay as new?

tooji

@MrBionic: Fair enough and I see your point. I wasn't there either. :)

Adam In Texas

The video is nice and CoD5 looks like it will be a fun game. I think the thing that helps the most is the fact that Treyarch is using the engine that was used in CoD4. It looks good but it should as a given. CoD4 looks great and is leaps and bounds better looking than CoD3 was.

The part with the flame thrower is creepy because you can hear those guys screaming getting burned alive.

Adam In Texas

I should add though that I like the Japanese fight has more variation, one of those soliers got really close with a bayonet before getting killed

Nipz

@noodles90: You know, as odd as it is, probably some of my favourite WW2 games were the old P.T.O. games on the SNES. If I were to play them now I'd probably hate em, but I loved em back in the day.

The European theater, as epic as it may have been, is a little bit tired out now from all the movies/video games/TV miniseries that were done on it.

SilentSeraphin

lol, wow, different boards, different reactions. it's funny how the first few comments shape up reactions to a video or a story...

on topic though, i'm still not a fan of WWII shooters, i can't wait till another "Call of Duty" with a "modern" setting is out!!

tok1879

I didnt see the character run once and their hands dont really move like COD4, so seems a bit stiff. Not really into the WWII weapons after COD4 either, nothing against treyarch everyone has the potential to make good games. Though Ill probably just hire this one out and if its good online will consider a buy. but ill probably be clocking more hours on gears 2

Nipz

I'm just glad that it isn't in Europe again. Haven't seen that many WW2 games for the Pacific Front.

noodles90

@Adam In Texas: Most kamikaze pilots were nothing more than kids in their late teens, with little more motivation than being an apparent last hope for Japan. It's so tiring hearing people talk about Kamizake pilots being some sort of zealot. Perhaps some were, but most weren't. Just kids, really. I live 45 minutes away from the Kamikaze museum in Kyushu, and the letters to their parents are heart-wrenching. Not to be heavy-handed or anything, but most of what's believed about kamikaze pilots isn't true.

pylon_trooper

@MrBionic:
The Japanese had some crazy tactics in WWII. Especially if they went on suicide missions

Yeah, they were awesome Guerilla fighters, and a lot of times managed to stay concealed.
But, it wasn't uncommon to get ambushed by a group of Japanese charging at you with bayonets.

They had a totally different mentality than we did. If they could inflict even one casualty, they'd go as far as to charge with bayonets into gunfire (given the range is close enough to actually reach the enemy).

Look around the internet for war stories from veterans and such. Marines in the Pacific theater went through a living nightmare fighting the Japanese.

That said...that first scene of gameplay was intense. O_O

Coquiton

absolutely brilliant. Mouse + co op + this i cannot wait!

Fauxe

I think COD4 has put a new standard on how a FPS should be..
Damn that game was good, i would be playing right now if it wasn't for shitty 2.42...

SsLordMagus

i don't need online co-op. i sometimes do not even finish the single player campaign like resistance and cod4. it's the multiplayer that counts

btw, i have a feeling that this game will not sell in japan.. maybe it even won't be released there

the_answer

I didn't see any cooperation happening.
Two people playing the same game, but at no point did one do an action that helped the other.
No heal, no revive, no weapon trading.
Not even killing an enemy that was troubling the other player.

NotTheGuy

After looking at this I really do not mind it's another WWII slugfest. Treyarch aint that bad the call of duty expansion was ok

enigma776

I just honestly hope that they have Split-screen co-op as well. That was one thing that disappointed me about Grand Theft Auto IV. Co-op just isn't co-op unless you're on the same couch as your best friend.

wandering_nomad

Two player co-op is nice but like so 2006. I want 4 player co-op. Treyarch is using IW's engine so I will give them one last chance.

vex-solo

I just don't see anything to get excited over, COD4 had great level design and pacing. The combat was second to none and ridiculously entertaining. This just looks like a point-n-shoot game, these guys have little strategy going on and just seem to run into the next fight with no regard to what's going on.

I dunno if I'm gonna really bother with this one, I'll just wait until whatever IW makes next.

Absent Blue

@pylon_trooper: I appreciate your response and information. I just had, "Day of the Kamikaze" from the Smithsonian Channel on my mind.

Adam In Texas

To me it looks boring. Too slow, and the voice acting is not good. I'll have to wait a little longer before i even think about buying it. It's now 9 months after cod4 came out, and it is still the most played game over live. I just don't think this game can pull that off. Cod 4 set the bar very high for a fps to be considered great, and this just doesn't cut it.

rocketman919

In my Opinion, I loved codUO the most and I still played it but since I feel cod continues to be a step behind UO had a wonderful game mode of "base assault" and good maps vehicles Treyarch did thier shit right, but since cod3 I've had little faith in them. But if they bring a good multiplayer that has that essence of Cod:UO then I'll buy it and play the hell out of it, if not I will simple walk away and wait for the next anal fuckfest of a game that Activision throws at us.

Greencacktus

@NotTheGuy: What did you expect, some lame "help me up" like in Army of Two...that was LAME. Or how about tandem parachuting down through caynons with your bff...<3 /blushes..you steer so well...

@Absent Blue: different war. different style.

@vex-solo: I believe it was mentioned by the studio head in the conference vid that it supports 4 player over Live! and 2 player splitscreen

Shabat0ge

I think it looks great. Im a big hater of CoD3 but i have to say that this video is making me look foward to this game.

Ra is on House

Online PC coop?

Chewbenator

@wandering_nomad: i used to feel that way until i played gears of war on insane and all of crackdown co-op. now i feel games are missing something if the campaign doesnt support co-op. i never would of even played halo if i couldnt play co-op... and moreso i bought a 42 inch screen not a ~21 inch...i want to co-op without giving up an inch so to speak

back on point.

this doesn't look all that impressive to me. maybe its because when cod4 came out, i was glad to see the end of wwii shooters. it was gave a breath of fresh air to the franchise (TO ME!!) and it got me interested (even though im not a fan of first person, i love 3rd though). now that 5 is back to wwii, its boring again. its the same damn thing to me and i was looking for some kind of wow factor and i didnt see it. i got to say that the voice acting is pretty good but i wouldnt buy the game for some overdramatic men talking about how gruesome this war is. ultimately, for me this game gets a meh. or at least the trailer does.

TheFight

Looks interesting, but I can't avoid that same old feeling about WWII games "more of the same".
Also, kinda weird how hands and weapons seems completely fixed... kinda like you are floating around.

Bokusatsu_Tenshi

Now, if only a developer made a game this action packed that wasn't set in WWII or a gritty gray-and-brown near future alien invasion.

Actaeus

That's not only intense but it feels less scripted but I'd have to play test it and attempt to grief it before I can be sure that's the case :| I'll stay cautiously optimistic.

okenny :( ... not sure what to believe in anymore

@Ad-hominem: I love you.

BrickTamland94

Yes we need more good co-op FPS, it's never bad to share.

Fenian

This is actually pretty old footage. I saw it some time ago.

Thugmunk

I don't know if I'd say it's intense. I know when I was playing CoD4, when you were running around shooting stuff, it just seemed really... I don't know. I just felt sort of 'meh' about most of it. Other than setting guys and trees on fire, it didn't really wow me.

Coop is nice, and it's good that CoD had joined the other 95% of FPSes doing co-op. Eh. I guess all I'm saying is that something feels like it's missing from the trailer. I'm not gunna say it's the "Fun" that's missing, but something just doesn't seem to be hitting on all cylinders.

If someone has any ideas what it is... let me know.

Salen

@RaptureScientist: You can't be serious! What is with you people.

Barf#1

@terminaljeremy: That made me LOL.

But in all honesty, I really think this looks good. Especially the flamethrower part. Does anyone know if the online is co-op or just on the same system?

Kevin856

I'm still not big on the decision to go with WWII yet again, but cooperative play is a natural step forward for the CoD campaign experience. No matter how polished the game gets the friendly AI can be annoyingly useless at times, or in some cases even hindering. Having an actual buddy along is a step in the right direction. Color me intrigued.

Gouki4u's avatar has a severe case of Jekyll and Hyde

No and No...I'd rather repurchase COD4 a second time and pretend that it's COD5...jk...co-op is a nice addition...

sexdrugsandps3

Need red dot sight! The game looks fun, but the aside from the rocket launcher and flamethrower, there doesn't seem to be the weapons that I need. Guess we'll have to wait and see.

ese

infinity ward or nothing

FlapDangerous

@Adam In Texas:

There's a Smithsonian Channel? Where do I get this ? O.o

tzaketh

@terminaljeremy:
The most correct person in this entire thread.

ThomasTruong

@NeVeRMoRe666: insert ?

NeVeRMoRe666

So wait...can I still play this co-op on one console? More importantly can I play it multiplayer (4 players) on live (ala Halo 3).

NeVeRMoRe666

thaaats koooool
you could see they were TRying to show off certain things from the game.. console 1 view console 2 using flamethrower into grassy patch to kill standing AI .
didnt look it went far in first person mode, but whenu seen from the side it actually goes quite a distance.

Hmm now i hope they put out a demo so i can use the flamethrower n get my 3 seconds of gratification so i wont have to buy the game.

SamuraiG0SU

Oh wow. I'm highly impressed by the co-op! Hopefully they keep on rolling!

Mike's Stalker

I joined the Call of Duty party late, with COD4 being my first one in the series. After that, I played through COD2 and then COD3. I was wary of COD3 because I heard it sucked compared to COD2, but for me it was just the opposite. COD2 bored me to tears while COD3 was actually fun for me. Of course, this is campaign only, as I didn't play MP for 2 or 3.

I_Hate_This_Place

Slick.

I never doubted Treyarch for a moment - I actually liked COD2: Big Red One and COD3.

headcrab

Looks very good. I particularly liked the flamethrower, it's better than I imagined.

It seems like it is pretty intense; the rocket launcher section reminds me of the frantic feeling invoked the first time I played Medal of Honor: Frontline.

Having said that, I have to admit that my heart dropped a little when I saw the character holding the Sten gun... I didn't expect to feel disappointed that they are back in WWII, but I guess that I am after all.

duckmouth

Co-op? From two different houses? What an age we live in!

BR4DL3I9H

I guess I'm going to have to tell my little sister to put that taco down and place a controller in it! We're going to war!

if_deez

I hope Call of Duty: World at War is perfect, just to prove a point. I haven't found out that point yet though.

two cans tied together and thrown down the street to wake up the surrounding neighbors with a loud annoying noise

If the enemy soldiers try and rush you like that all through the game it's going to make for a pretty broken experience...

I'd like to know if there will be two player split-screen online co-op.

brickrock121

The player animation looked pretty awful. None of the head bobbing that was present even in 3 and which certainly made CoD4 very immersive. The other animations looked like they'd been lifted directly from CoD3 as well.

The only thing that makes me think this could be good, is the attention to detail put into the flamethrower and the way flames move, which most games *cough* TF2 *cough* cock up.

I'm hoping it will be awesome, but I'll certainly be waiting for reviews before I buy it. Treyarch need to prove they can roll with Infinity Ward, and I really hope they can. An awesome CoD game every year would be like heaven for me.

Anaralia

I dunno, like most people, the animations looked stiff, it didn't look as immersive as CoD4, but I dunno, I'll have to play to see.

ray89

Asian people running at you like idiots, blowing up tanks with flamethrowers.. yea.. it's freaking Treyarch.

Sorry.. i might play it for the lulz, but no more.

Cosmitz

so you have to have two console just to play co-op?

Crippen

Looked alright. I didn't like that you could basically just run around with a flame thrower to kill everyone / everything. I did like that the tree went up in flames; that was pretty sweet.

I liked MoH: Airborne because it was something a little different; I wish CoD would do something different like that (but better?). Yes, I loved CoD4 because it was something different - modern war.

This might not appeal to everyone, but what about wars from other countries point of views, and not american?

kidCasey13

kiefer sotherland in the call of duty 5 how yehaaaaa

Marshal_A

@Shabat0ge: My post was pretty straight forward. Try again. What do you see?

NotTheGuy

So, we don't do local multiplayer anymore?

Mister Adequate

Rocky docky teriyaki! Even if everybody's gripes aren't resolved, it's still the best game about the Pacific campaign. Plz stfu about COD4... you kids are spoiled.

Space_Cakes

Is that fuckin Adam West?

Win.

DeanoTheDino

@Adam In Texas: also, when japanese had no chances left, they did a bonzai attack, where they all rushed the enemy with the leader in front holding a katana. it fits that japanese would do that in the game

HueyFreeman

@Anaralia: I don't think TF2 was ever really shooting for "realism" to be fair.

I'm just happy with how much flame effects have improved in the last decade, going from completely unbelievable 2-D sprites to hardly believable particle effects to the things that we're seeing in this and Farcry 2. Makes someone like me very happy.

wandering_nomad

Well at least the flamwthrower looked awesome.

Sugarskull

@Greencacktus: As Greencacktus pointed out- Gray Matter Studios are now part of Treyarch - and they've had their good games before. Spiderman 2 and Return to Castle Wolfenstein were great games developed in their studio- but my favorite remains CoD: United Offensive. Base Assault, to this day, remains one of my favorite game modes of all time. Requiring teams to use tanks to destroy a bunker, then infantry to plant the gave the game great teamwork without it being forced down your throat. CoD:UO became all my Programming class at school did- we would write our code in minutes then loadup some CoD for Base Assault.

TheXanadu

@MrBionic:

We're not talking about the phillipines here. Have you ever heard of banzai charges? [en.wikipedia.org]

The Japanese used this tactic very often in ww2...it doesn't make sense, and seems stupid to run to your death..but this was part of their Bushido code.

c_A_p

Ive seen a real flamethrower up close and Id say they nailed the effect down pretty damned good of the thing firing.

Scariest shit in the world and thank god soldiers dont field them anymore.

Witzbold

Oh yea, CoD5 is totally lame and fake compared to the absolutely 100% accurately modeled everything in CoD4. In fact,CoD4 was so perfect, the collector's edition was originally slated to be a pair of boots and a 100lb. bag of sand.

Seriously, to echo space cakes, stfu about CoD4 already. It's a great game; everyone knows this. But it is not the be all end all of FPS'; and it certainly is not realistic. Most realistic shooter... I'm goin' with America's Army.

rob2112

@rob2112: No love for OFP my friend? D:

Witzbold

Co-op means I buy this game.

CHunterX

Im curious as to how the MP will play out.

Witzbold

yeah, co-op? or two simultaneous single-player campaigns? to call what i've seen so far 'uninspired' is actually pretty charitable.

mister_shhh

I've bought every COD since COD2 so I'll probably end up getting this. I just hope it's at least on par with COD3 so as you know my expectations are pretty low.

Paradyme

well. i liked this trailer. the way the plane crashed into the electrical circuits, the way the flames reacted to the environment, the people screaming due to the fact that they were burning alive. but id of liked to see future combat from this one. but i hope in the near future, infinity ward comes back with another knock out. and i'm tired from WWII, wheres nam, cold war, desert storm! COME ON PEOPLE, USE YOUR BRAINS!!!!!!!!!

callofdutyrocks