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Earn $$$ With Fable II Pub Games Bug
Posted by Kotaku US Edition at 10:40 AM on August 19, 2008
Uh-oh. If Lionhead don't sort this out sharpish then Albion could end up suffering through its own version of the kind of economic meltdown that has lead to Zimbabwe printing a run of billion dollar notes.
The novel idea of letting players earn gold in the Fable II Pub Games on XBLA — gold that can be brought into the game to give your character a good start in life — might turn out to be a problem, now that someone has realised there is a way to game the system into paying big.
The Fortune's Tower card game can be tricked into big payouts, it seems. Find out how after the jump and get saving for extra dog biscuits now before this gets patched.
From Wired:
The game in question is the Fortune's Tower card game, and all you need to do is bet the lowest amount before you deal cards (15 chips), and then immediately hit the left bumper after you select "Deal". This will max out the bet, but the only amount taken out of your pot is the initial 15.
I've been able to replicate this in all of the Fortune's Tower games I've played — you eventually unlock new tables that allow higher bets — as well as in the tournament mode. And yes, I'm racking up quite a bit of gold, thank you.
Get Rich Quick With Pub Games Glitch [Wired Game|Life]

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Alucrid
Posted 11:39 AM 19/8/08
I'm not so sure why people are so up in arms about this glitch. It really doesn't affect anyone else except the person who's doing it. Besides, even if they patch it you can just clear your cache, and *bam*, easy gold. I also doubt that they'll cap the gold or make it so the gold is worthless, that will just piss the people off who bought it.
@atrimus: I believe that they are exclusive to the pub games since it says, when you select "Inventory" in the menu, "View the unique items you've won." Keyword being unique.
Alucrid
Ad-hominem
Posted 11:35 AM 19/8/08
@atrimus: If the 100 to 1 ratio turns out to be true, you'll have only earned 2k gold, a pittance in the game.
Ad-hominem
Iocarios
Posted 11:34 AM 19/8/08
@hagridore: Ha! That's fair. Who would put a slot machine tournament into pub games. Pure crap.
I've been using the exploit just to use on those tournaments - then purposefully losing my money in games so that Fable II isn't too unbalanced (seriously - Fable was kind of a joke difficulty-wise, and Peter M. sounds like he's going for an even more casual crowd this time around... one button combat? really?)
It's hard to justify cheating in Fable. Still, I want those unlockables...
Iocarios
GorbyGipper
Posted 11:30 AM 19/8/08
Eh, Fortune's Tower is pretty damned easy once you open up some of the better tables, anyhow. The other games, though....I'm okay at Keystone, but that spinner game is just pure luck (which is kinda annoying).
GorbyGipper
Heliophage
Posted 11:30 AM 19/8/08
@aphex_twin:
Well, you can play it cooperatively. But, not competitavely as far as I know, so your point still stands.
Heliophage
MantisDragon
Posted 11:30 AM 19/8/08
While I don't condone "cheating" as said this seems almost purposeful. We will see in a few days if it is or not, if and when it is patched or not. Until it is patched I'll take full advantage of it when I can.
The biggest thing I noticed it that it give you experience based on what your bet it listed as at the end of a hand rather than the beginning. So, this might be an easy way to get up to a 5star gambling rating to open new games. Of course, you might as well keep using the exploit then because you'll be able to get even more money with the better games.
MantisDragon
sir_carrot
Posted 11:28 AM 19/8/08
@gsupc: Uh, no. I believe they're patching this soon.
I'm a little weary, personally, of starting the game with much money - seems like it would rather spoil the fun.
A side note: these games are rather difficult on their own.
sir_carrot
atrimus
Posted 11:27 AM 19/8/08
well, i've already cheated my way to 200K+ gold pieces, and i've earned all 5 items in the Fortune's Tower tournaments. but i'm actually thinking about deleting it all. the last time i cheated in a game (that i can remember) was in the original Contra. cheating (especially in an rpg) just kinda takes away from the experience. the only way i'll consider keeping it all is if some of the items you unlock (such as the musket) turn out to be exclusive to the Pub games. but i doubt that'll be the case.
atrimus
Bishmon
Posted 11:26 AM 19/8/08
I used the cheat just to get myself out of the freaking debt I ran up playing a couple hours of spinnerbox trying to get my gambler rating up so I could do the tournaments, the only thing I wanted to do anyway. If it would have been reasonable, I would have just played fortune's tower to get my rating up, because that's the only interesting game of the three and it's possible to get the edge in the game, but that would have taken probably at least ten hours.
So yeah, now I'm back to even, and I've completed about half of the tournaments. I just have the other half to go, and then if I'll probably play some legit fortune's tower to try and save up some gold for a cozy house or something.
I'm not interested in using the cheat to rack up a fortune in gold, but I don't begrudge those that do. If they find entertainment in that, and it doesn't affect me, so be it.
Bishmon
Quicksilver4648
Posted 11:18 AM 19/8/08
Please, don't patch this. Not because I want quick money, but rather I want to get out of debt!
Quicksilver4648
Krondonian
Posted 11:14 AM 19/8/08
@Shockadin: Those are good games, but you're missing out on some great stuff too if you've only finished them. Half-Life 2 for example is easy, doesn't take too long and is awesome.
Krondonian
Shockadin
Posted 11:10 AM 19/8/08
@Shockadin: Though, personally, I think cheating on games ruin the experience, try joining a private server on WoW, that'll make you so sick to your stomach you never want to play that game again, especially if they make you overpowered but have bugs on all the instances and nobody PVPs except gurubashi where donors rape you.
Shockadin
Krondonian
Posted 11:10 AM 19/8/08
Fable 1: Infinite Money.
1) Go to a store with 60+ diamonds in stock.
2) Buy all of them for cheap due to large stock.
3) Sell them all back to the same shop for massive profit.
4) Continue until you can buy the Solus Greatsword, every edifice in the game and perhaps a nice new skirt.
Fable was great, but the in game economy was the worst I've ever seen. I don't have too high hopes for No. 2.
Krondonian
Athrun
Posted 11:10 AM 19/8/08
I need to cheat at Tower to pay for all the attempts at Keystone.
Athrun
Count_Elmdor
Posted 11:08 AM 19/8/08
story of the centur.... zzz
Count_Elmdor
Shockadin
Posted 11:08 AM 19/8/08
@aphex_twin: I just see it as finishing the game faster, so you have more time to do other things :). Bah, the only single player games I finished are Knights of the Old Republic and story mode of Halo 1, 2, and 3, and COD:4. Boy am I going to be stereotyped as one of those lesser gamers just because I play popular games. They're popular for a reason, and people who bash Halo are doing the worst attempt to try to be cool, try to go against the mainstream crowd. And here comes the denials...
Shockadin
Amazon_Chris
Posted 11:08 AM 19/8/08
All I saw was Earn $$$
Then I saw the "with Fable 2 part" and I was sad.
Amazon_Chris
LittleBigPlaneteer
Posted 11:05 AM 19/8/08
This was intentionally done so that people buy the game. Then when they're satisfied with sales enough, they'll patch it.
LittleBigPlaneteer
RykinPoe
Posted 11:04 AM 19/8/08
After using this bug to unlock all the achievements and items I actually got myself into dept on purpose. Hopefully there are some interesting quests in Fable 2 that you have to do for mobsters or something if you are in dept.
RykinPoe
LaserJudas
Posted 11:02 AM 19/8/08
I always wonder why people get their panties in a twist over a single player game.
LaserJudas
Dynosaulo
Posted 11:01 AM 19/8/08
@gsupc: That's what i thought too!
And it really makes sense, specially considering it's Fable, a game in which you get to be a good guy or a bad guy. Maybe this will make you be known as a cheater in the game... i don't know...
And it doesn't sound like a real bug to me. It's too... dumb?
Dynosaulo
Cronoking
Posted 11:01 AM 19/8/08
Well its easier then counting cards. Although I'll stick to my tried and true "steal everything possible from every place I can" to get my money lol.
Cronoking
Ad-hominem
Posted 11:01 AM 19/8/08
@Eltigro: That is insane genius used in a stupid way. I applaud you.
Ad-hominem
Moosebox
Posted 11:00 AM 19/8/08
If you cheat, it will ruin your gaming experience in Fable 2, it's that simple.
Moosebox
hagridore
Posted 10:59 AM 19/8/08
I consider this an apology for the fact that spinnerbox sucks so hard.
hagridore
Eltigro
Posted 10:58 AM 19/8/08
I used to cheat on Suikoden in the cup game. My PlayStation was running through my VCR and I would record the game when the cups were moving. Then I paused the game and played it back in slo-mo and follow the cup with the ball. Unpaused and picked the cup with the ball.
Sad, huh.
Eltigro
Karisu-Zero
Posted 10:57 AM 19/8/08
On the one hand , this is bad as it ruins the experiece. On the other hand, right now, this is only just to give you a head start in the game, but how far do you think you're going get with a maxed out piggy bank only being able to buy the most basic items the first hour into the game? It takes time to get into a game like this, and buy that time, a.) they might have patched this or b.) your finanances would have taken a hit.
Karisu-Zero
okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under)
Posted 10:55 AM 19/8/08
You'll be sorry...
You think you're amassing a fortune right now but when you try and do quests with your bloated character... then you'll see. Besides, who cheats on games any more... you're only cheating yourself.
okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under)
Real_fn_Show
Posted 10:55 AM 19/8/08
Also, I think it says somewhere in the game that you only gain 1 in-game gold for every 100 that you win on these pub games.
Real_fn_Show
Real_fn_Show
Posted 10:51 AM 19/8/08
However, if you start too wealthy in Fable II, your character becomes affected as well. You become a fragile, weak, silver-spoon-fed, trust fund baby with good weapons and armor. Being too poor will make you much tougher, because you will have had to grow up on the mean streets fighting for survival, but you will have crappy, rusted weapons.
Real_fn_Show
gsupc
Posted 10:51 AM 19/8/08
Anyone think this exploit might be a part of them game?
Maybe they want to see if you cheat, then in game something bad will happen to you. Maybe this is not really an exploit, but just a cheap way to get free press and to 'corrupt' you character you play.. Will you be good or bad? (cheating will start you off bad)
Gold might not be what it is in other games. Maybe buying things in game will have no real effect on how you play.
This is not an exploit people!! this is as designed, and it is genius!
gsupc
parad0x360
Posted 10:51 AM 19/8/08
As much fun as it is to cheat in a single player XBLA game I'll pass on this one.
Nothing ruins an RPG more then cheating. It removes any and all challenge. So what if its just money? That money could mean better weapons, armor and other stuff. Im not willing to ruin my Fable II fun.
parad0x360
Ad-hominem
Posted 10:49 AM 19/8/08
@Rongeong: Meh. They'll probably just patch the glitch. I have a feeling they're not going to screw over any of the cheaters. I just don't think they care that much.
If it was an MMO or something, though? They totally would. But it's not.
I mean, it's not like it was hard to get enough money to break the game in Fable One.
I mean, pretty quickly the barter system was able to be abused to allow you to get infinite sums of money. I just feel they're not that concerned about it.
Ad-hominem
Comatose Turtle
Posted 10:49 AM 19/8/08
It's essentially the same as an "infinite money" code, I guess. Some people just need the crutch.
Comatose Turtle
Infinitum
Posted 10:48 AM 19/8/08
@aphex_twin: Agreed.
I also won't pay extra real money for the opportunity to get some sort of head start on the actual game. Keep nasty pub games.
Infinitum
The Magnificen7
Posted 10:47 AM 19/8/08
@aphex_twin: Amen. And I tried the games last night. Didn't like 'em. This game was my favorite of the three though.
The Magnificen7
Rongeong
Posted 10:45 AM 19/8/08
@GlibGamer: Same for me, but the patch might reset our items. I hope that if they do patch they'll only put a cap on how much money you can transfer over instead of resetting your whole game.
Rongeong
aphex_twin
Posted 10:45 AM 19/8/08
Who cares, really? This is a single-player RPG; people abusing this exploit are ultimately only ruining their own experience. If I play Fable II (and I intend to at some point), I'll be playing the game fair and square.
aphex_twin
ghnvt
Posted 10:44 AM 19/8/08
I was waiting for an exploit to come along.
ghnvt
GlibGamer
Posted 10:43 AM 19/8/08
Found out about this a couple days ago. I'm amazed it isn't patched yet. Oh well, I have all 15 items and a small amount of cash to start the game with now.
GlibGamer
Rongeong
Posted 10:43 AM 19/8/08
Oh man, why are people posting about this?! They might patch the game to get rid of the bug!
Rongeong
Marius13
Posted 10:43 AM 19/8/08
Damn, people are finding a way to cheat anything now-a-days....
Still, hearing this makes me want to get this so I have lots of gold once it comes out....But I dont want to pay the points for it. Is the pre-order thing still good?
Marius13
Bitten_Dead
Posted 12:00 PM 19/8/08
I'm gonna just play fair, you get the full experience that way. There's no real point if it's not an MMO. What's the point of cheating in a game your just playing by yourself? It's not as fun in my opinion. I didn't even get the XBLA game so I can start out normally in the game.
I bet just about everyone here disagrees with me lol...
Bitten_Dead
EmeraldCockroach
Posted 11:58 AM 19/8/08
Hahah I love this story! Exploiting game mechanics to get uber rich uber fast, reminds me of when I used to play Legend Of Mir 2 and we exploited the SabukWall bank feature to flood the Economy with billions of Fraud Gold, however that was an online game and everyone soon twigged when the guild became the best kitted in the game without a single boss hunt hoho! Come to think of it the game ran for 3 more years and the economy never really recovered :/
As for this, If i do play Fable I'll do it theold fashioned way of grinding and hard work, as said above who cheats these days anyways, That was so last decade.
EmeraldCockroach
Eltigro
Posted 12:31 PM 19/8/08
@Ad-hominem: I prefer to use my powers for evil.
Eltigro
Billkwando
Posted 12:24 PM 19/8/08
This reminds me of abusing the shit out of that basement gambling game in Aberdeen, in Shenmue II.
Billkwando
PirateMan
Posted 12:18 PM 19/8/08
I reckon this is intended, they put the cheat in the game so your character will become more evil at the start :).
PirateMan
ttstnobasee
Posted 12:18 PM 19/8/08
lets hope they dont patch this before i get my fricken pre order code
ttstnobasee
tbombrocks
Posted 12:15 PM 19/8/08
Yea it works, i tried it a few times. It's an easy way to win tourneys.
tbombrocks
MysteriousStranger
Posted 12:15 PM 19/8/08
uh-oh. Better not get caught or the Albion guards will break my legs.
MysteriousStranger
GcRayden
Posted 12:15 PM 19/8/08
For those waiting for a patch (might as well fix spinnerbox while their at it) I wouldn't count on it coming anytime soon. Knowing how long it takes microsoft to get stuff done, having to go through the submitting process and what-not, I wouldn't be surprised if it was coming out just as Fable 2 was being released.
Also, Peter Molyneux always talks about Fable 2 as being a open-end free game, exploring the possibilities of being able to do anything in a free roaming world. If you can kill quest givers to get what you want, then this seems like something he wouldn't care about. The fact is that in the real world you CAN cheat and if Peter wants to make his game as open as possible, I think this should be a feature as well. Like the Fable 2 Trailer says "For every choice, a different destiny".
Oh, and I wouldn't be surprised if spinnerbox had something to do with your hero's luck on Fable 2...
GcRayden
GlibGamer
Posted 12:14 PM 19/8/08
People forget there will be no consequences unless it's 1. Implemented in-game and 2. You actually merge your gambling avatar with your Fable II character.
But don't forget, I won those items fair and square. If the dev takes those away, I'm canceling my Special Edition preorder and they can suck it when I buy the game used.
GlibGamer
Murderdolls
Posted 12:14 PM 19/8/08
This is the same type of thing that made oblivion a terrible game
infinite money
Murderdolls
Refused
Posted 12:11 PM 19/8/08
Kinda stupid to be honest. I doubt anyone would be 'punished' for this anyway considering its an MMO.
I would rather play Fable II from start to finish without using any cheats/exploits.
Refused
Mootsmcboots
Posted 12:55 PM 19/8/08
I don't like cheaters. Cheaters are weaksauce. Regardless of what they cheat in they cheat. Cheaters are the low lifes of the video game world, games are too easy now a days because people cheat. Oh its too dificult....cheat, oh this is taking along time..... lets cheat. Multiplayer or single, screw cheaters. Oh and no post expressing ones opinion is worthless, if opinions were worthless nothing would ever progress, but thats a different discussion.
Mootsmcboots
hansamurai
Posted 12:51 PM 19/8/08
What? Who cares about cheating in a single player game. Worthless post.
hansamurai
smoke731mcb
Posted 12:50 PM 19/8/08
What does it matter? Whoever uses it has every right to if they want. If u want to not use it and "play fair" that's alright too. Its wrong to ostracize a person just because they play differently than you do.
smoke731mcb
Mootsmcboots
Posted 12:47 PM 19/8/08
I hope in the next FF they start all my chars out at 99, with a full inventory, and a pre loaded save game that loads up to the final battle with the boss at 1 hp, and he's asleep.
People who cheat or exploit...exploits are weaksauce, they never play the game as it was intended by those who made it, and ruin it for those who do.
Mootsmcboots
WordMan
Posted 12:44 PM 19/8/08
Actually, I doubt they'll patch this. For people who want a big head-start in Fable 2, this is actually a big selling point for Pub Games. $$$
I wouldn't put it past them to have added this easily findable exploit on purpose. nahhh..
WordMan
Mordochai
Posted 12:41 PM 19/8/08
I had the same "adventure" as Major Nelson. I was up quite a bit, and then my wife started playing and got soooo deep in debt.
Mordochai
Awoken
Posted 12:41 PM 19/8/08
free money? hold the phone....
Awoken
Mootsmcboots
Posted 12:40 PM 19/8/08
Let's make, todays already rediculously easy video games even easier, thats the ticket, maybe they can start making games that play for you, and cheat for you then you could just sit back and press A to advance dialog. Panzy degenerates. Jesus, its not enough to slack in real life, lets start bucking the system in video games too.
Mootsmcboots
smoke731mcb
Posted 12:39 PM 19/8/08
took awhile to show up here. its been known since the second day it was out.
smoke731mcb
iDeNoh
Posted 12:36 PM 19/8/08
Oh, Exploitable! haha, but yeah...this works on ANY teir of the card game, just so you know.
iDeNoh
BauerStyle
Posted 1:11 PM 19/8/08
Im gonna be flossing so many G's in albion...
BauerStyle
Mootsmcboots
Posted 1:02 PM 19/8/08
Whoever uses it has every right to if they want. <---this is correct. As it is for most of ones possessions, you can use them (for the most part) however you like. Some people however, some people use vacuums for pleasure, some people put fruit in dessert, sure its their vacuum and their dessert but it doesn't make it right.
Mootsmcboots
TheKnicest
Posted 1:00 PM 19/8/08
@Murderdolls: What made Oblivion a "terrible game" for YOU is that you cheated for infinite money. See how that works?
TheKnicest
wrecks
Posted 1:00 PM 19/8/08
YAY! Free Fake Money! weak.
wrecks
Actaeus
Posted 1:40 PM 19/8/08
I read an article recently in The Wall Street Journal about Zimbabwe's inflation. I think a loaf of bread costs $32,000,000. I bet Zimbabweans long for the days when inflation was at a modest 160,000% instead of the rates over a million now.
Actaeus
robinandtami
Posted 1:33 PM 19/8/08
Well I've amassed a quarter of a million so far. I already had the highest table of Towers unlocked so it only took me about an hour to get that money. I'll play the game on my own wits the first time through, then I'll play with my rich character to see what kind of difference it makes. I'll probably get one of my pub players deep into debt too to see how that changes the game as well.
robinandtami
dv8godd
Posted 2:01 PM 19/8/08
@Krondonian: Yeah, I was going to mention that as well. It seems that economy quirks between 1 & 2 are already a bit on par. :/
I'm not sure it bodes well for the second installment that it's already sharing some similarity on the bug/exploit side.
Not identical, mind you... but a bit bizarre.
dv8godd
Sandtiger
Posted 1:57 PM 19/8/08
Doesn't work now
Sandtiger
Milkzhakes
Posted 2:13 PM 19/8/08
i known about this glitch for about a week. all im saying is the whole point was to make money in the pub games. so clearly it was gambling and all based on luckm and like harvey "two face" dent from the dark knight said "i make my own luck." so thats my motivation for using this glitch until they fix it.
Milkzhakes
DirtySyko
Posted 2:56 PM 19/8/08
@Mootsmcboots:
Oh wow, I didn't read your last post before I posted a response to you. I want to apologize for responding to you in an intelligent manner, because after reading your last post it's obvious you are delusional and do not deserve a respectable response.
You just used an example of people putting fruit into their desserts as an analogy for video game cheaters, and finished it by saying "it's wrong to do."
I put walnuts in my yogurt, I must be the son of the Devil. Oh, what blasphemous acts I have done! Walnuts in my yogurt, it was not meant to be! Forgive me, I shall never enhanced the flavor of my yogurt by adding walnuts again, nor shall I bring enjoyment to my video games by using cheat codes and extending the longevity of them.
DirtySyko
DirtySyko
Posted 2:45 PM 19/8/08
@Mootsmcboots:
I'll bite.
OK, so your opinion isn't worthless, but that doesn't make it intelligent. Does it seriously matter to you how somebody else plays their game? Why do you care if a guy who plays GTA puts in cheat codes each time he plays and never plays it regularly. Is it directly affecting you in any way whatsoever?
I miss the days of harder games as well. Games have become way too easy. And I don't use cheat codes to progress myself through a game. I'll use them when I've beat the game if I feel like messing around, but I don't use them to "win."
The point is, you sound just as bad as all of the guys who threw a fit over people exploiting Oblivion bugs/glitches. Like it fucking matters, dude. You're complaining about an issue that isn't even an issue.
All your opinion is, is proof that there are still people out there who care way too much about what other people do and how other people live their lives. It's the same kind of people who don't want gays to marry. Live your own life, that's why it's YOUR life, and leave other people the fuck alone.
Now, as for the article itself. What did you expect? This game was nothing more than a gimmicky feature anyways to try and seal more pre-orders and hype up Fable II. I assumed people would find ways of becoming insanely rich within the first few days of its release, and it looks like it came true.
DirtySyko
LanciePants
Posted 2:43 PM 19/8/08
@aphex_twin:
ABSOLUTELY! Is it really going to keep people up at night, tossing and turning in a cold sweat at the idea that someone, somewhere is racking up gold in their single player experience? Is this somehow technomagically going to seep into and ultimately corrupt their solo gaming experience? This isn't affecting anyone else. If people want to game the system, I say let them. I mean really, I don't give a flying whoop if someone else's game is unbalanced.
LanciePants
Oyako
Posted 3:31 PM 19/8/08
it doesn't seem to work for me :( hitting LB after hitting A to deal does nothing
Oyako
Milkzhakes
Posted 4:03 PM 19/8/08
@DirtySyko: you sir i salute. ps lol at the yogurt comment.
Milkzhakes
diablofreak
Posted 4:32 PM 19/8/08
dl/buy the game now, but dont patch it when its available and do this patch offline?
diablofreak
Tietsu
Posted 4:24 PM 19/8/08
@Eltigro: Funny thing is that it was always on the right most cup for the first match on hard. You play it once make 10000 gold and then exit, then do it again.
Great system
Tietsu
Terance!
Posted 4:24 PM 19/8/08
This was discovered like, the first day it came out, and I know hundreds of people who know it.
I don't think they're going to patch it.
Wait...maybe it's there on purpose!
Maybe every time you do it it's secretly adding evil points!!!
Terance!
Aesteval
Posted 5:00 PM 19/8/08
Why would they screw over the people that are exploiting this glitch when the game it's related to is centered around choices made of good vs. evil? This glitch is the epitome of the Fable universe, just another layer of the hero vs. anti-hero, a microcosm of the game itself.
Anyway, if something deserves to be cleaned up then it is definitely the leaderboards. Of course it's not hard to tell who's excessively exploiting the glitch by taking a quick look at the leaderboards...gee, someone has 20 billion gold from Fortune's Tower tournaments and an absolutely negligible amount from the other two games...wonder what they've been doing...
Aesteval
Gunloc
Posted 5:00 PM 19/8/08
@Billkwando: I did that one. It sure beat moving those shitty crates!
I've done the cheat to get the tourny prizes and who knows maybe when you merge your player in fable 2 some punk kid steals your money. It's happened in a game before... All that time spent driving a forklift.. For nothing but a bunch lighters!! :p
Gunloc
Snowdaddy
Posted 5:21 PM 19/8/08
Pub games is a game of risk and rewards. You take away the risk you take away the reward. Sure you have a hefty large amount of gold or you can justify getting out of debt but in the end you ruin the whole point of the game (Pub games).
Also many people argue about the fact that this is a single player game. So why should anyone care. For those individuals (including myself) that did not cheat it sucks that your dedication to the game seems almost pointless once you worked up to say 50k and some other individual that cheated now has over a million. In other words it makes your victory just that much less sweet.
Another problem is that there was an online ranking system for this game that would allow you to see where you stand against other pub games players. I understand that in order to get your name into the upper tiers it would require a vast amount of time that many of us don't have. However those people that worked their way up honestly are simply shat upon by these cheaters. Its not like cheating in these online ranks is anything new.
I also understand that its a personal choice to take advantage of this exploit or not to take advantage. I do not have the right to tell other people how they should play their games. I just hope that Lionhead fixes this exploit and resets the online ranking system in order to bring back some integrity into the game.
Snowdaddy
origamikid
Posted 6:24 PM 19/8/08
I dont see the point in this, if you just have loads of gold then whats the point of playing the main game? If you have loads of gold it takes away the challenge of the main single player game...right?
origamikid
Sugaray
Posted 8:30 PM 19/8/08
I've already amassed 30000 from just a few days of gameplay and have unlocked most of the items and a good ammount of the extra tables and since I hate OTHERS ruining my gaming expiriences, I think i'll opt out of cheating and simply make as much gold as I can the RIGHT way.
Cheating is for Cheaters, though if you aren't planning on buying/playing Fable 2, I doubt using the exploit will ruin much of anything except make Pub Games boring really fast.
Sugaray
Andronix
Posted 9:12 PM 19/8/08
@origamikid:
Exactly. Ive downloaded the Pub Games but I dont think I will play it. The whole point of RPGs is that you start with nothing and slowly improve, gain more.
I dont want to start Fable II with enough money to buy the best weapons and armour, because it will effectively kill the game. I think I will wait for the actual game.
Andronix
Zilor
Posted 9:52 PM 19/8/08
It's a single player RPG about choices, the bug doesn't happen on accident. There is no reason to patch it at all since how much gold I have in my game means nothing to anyone elses game.
Zilor
djgeki
Posted 9:41 PM 19/8/08
Peter Molyneux is likely jumping up and down in joy because of the social unrest this has caused...concerning Fable 2. ^_^
djgeki
Aesteval
Posted 10:25 PM 19/8/08
@Snowdaddy: Actually is still takes quite the time investment to get into the top rankings even with cheating . Rankings aren't based upon how much money in general, they're based upon how much prize money you're rewarded for winning tournaments. The most someone can win towards online ranking per game, by cheating with this method, is 6900 gold (7400 gp top prize - 500 gp entry fee) since the game appears to deduct the entry fee from your prize winnings as far as ranking goes. And to get that 6900 gold you still have to play 24 hands of Fortune's Tower each time. So going by the current leaderboard, the top grossing player had to have boringly sat through 9000+ hands of Fortune's Tower while cheating to get where they are right now. And not only that, but due to only being able to cheat in the one single game, you know which players are the ones that are very likely massively cheating on the leaderboards (the ones that have millions of gold won and 99.9999% of that gold is all from Fortune's Tower.) That makes the individual rankings for the other two games that much more valuable and the Fortune's Tower ranking that much funnier to look at laughing at the lamers that have nothing better to do than cheat their way to uber numbers on the internet.
Aesteval
Aesteval
Posted 10:46 PM 19/8/08
@GlibGamer: Actually you definitely have a point there. I have seen comments from some people that are doing some cheating that likely will see more of the game than everyone else. It really is an interesting idea to play through what's supposed to be a deeply involving game about situations and choices from different financial standpoints. How does the game compare when you play starting from nothing, compared to starting while ridiculously rich, compared to starting from being terribly in debt?
Aesteval
GlibGamer
Posted 10:40 PM 19/8/08
So many people are taking this so seriously. OK folks, ready for another point of view? No? Tough.
I spend 11 hours of my day at work, or taking care of issues relating to work. I also have a wife to be a husband to (thank God she's a gamer like I am) and a daughter to help through school and life's lessons. This doesn't leave me a lot of time to play a game the "right" way, as some of you are putting it.
If I paid $60 + tax, and my game experience is not impacting anyone other than you guys getting heartburn over my Pub Game actions, and it allows me to enjoy my game during the limited time I'll have to play it, isn't that reason enough for me to do as I will?
I don't feel I'm missing out on ANYTHING since I never said my cheating character was going to be my first. Oh, c wut I did thur? Yeah, I may be experiencing MORE of the game if leaving the cheating in is intentional than those who refuse to cheat.
Who's not enjoying the game for what it was meant to be, now? :D
GlibGamer
Aesteval
Posted 11:20 PM 19/8/08
@DirtySyko: "All your opinion is, is proof that there are still people out there who care way too much about what other people do and how other people live their lives."
I think of it as the sort of situation where someone will be urinating in one urinal and be incapable of keeping himself from looking down and watching the guy in the next urinal as he urinates. Sometimes people just need to mind their own business.
Aesteval
Grive
Posted 12:57 AM 20/8/08
@aphex_twin: Pretty much.
That's the main reason I didn't even think of getting this game - it's most likely going to damage my enjoyment of Fable II.
Grive
kidko
Posted 1:04 AM 20/8/08
It sounds like a dev cheat that got left in on accident
kidko
Captiosus
Posted 2:54 AM 20/8/08
@parad0x360: Nothing ruins The Sims 2: Fable 2 Edition more then cheating. It removes any and all challenge. So what if its just money?
Fixed that for you.
Molyneux has already said this game is a "social experiment". The story has been gutted from the 30+ hours of the original Fable to 12 hours. The side quests/jobs exist solely so you can earn money to buy new items and properties. You grow up, you have to maintain relationships and factions, you buy houses with your money and status, you get married and then invite friends to come see your house(s) and hope they don't bang your wife in the hot tu.. I mean back yard.
This game may be labeled an "RPG", but it's about as much of an RPG as The Sims 2 is. The only difference is instead of going to work automatically like in The Sims, you have to go do it yourself. But the end result is the same. When they hype up the concept that you can buy new homes and invite people to see them to stroke your ePeen, I'm reminded of The Sims Online.
I eagerly anticipate the addition of DLC to allow us to buy new decor for our homes (/sarcasm).
Captiosus
StartingAces
Posted 3:56 AM 20/8/08
@Mootsmcboots:
Hyperbole much?
Extra game gold != level 99 at the end of the game.
Let's all calm down just a little, folks. It's not like it's an MMO.
StartingAces
robinandtami
Posted 4:32 AM 20/8/08
Why is everyone so uptight about how other people choose to play their own single player game? It's not like it has any effect whatsoever on YOUR gaming experience. It's like the idgets that insist that allowing gay people to get married will have a negative affect on their own marriage.
robinandtami
TearsandScreams
Posted 4:22 AM 20/8/08
To each their own I say. I couldn't careless how people play single player games, seeing as it doesn't affect my enjoyment of it all. I won't be buying this or preordering for it, because I simply wouldn't play it, too many games that I prefer have my hands right now (that's the Pub Games NOT Fable 2).
TearsandScreams
Xagest
Posted 5:08 AM 20/8/08
The best way to patch this game is that when you walk into the in-game Pub, everyone tries to kill for the large bounty on your head for cheating.
Xagest
DY357LX
Posted 6:46 AM 20/8/08
I was against cheating on Fortunes Tower at first... but then I played each mini game for about 25 minutes each and was over 1000 Gold in debt.
The pub games seem a tad unfair and Fortunes Tower especially forces you to take a loss when your Gate Card has been used.
Key Stone is a joke just like roulette.
Stick 500 on Odd and it'll be even 8 out of 10 times. The instant you remove your bet it'll be a magical stream of Odd spins as a reward for your impatience.
Let's not even get started on Spinner Box!
I'm at 40,000 Gold, I intend to waste it all unlocking the remaining items. My xbox will NOT be back on Live until I have all 15.
I'll probably keep 5000 Gold for the release date.
For potions and some nice starter-armour and what-not.
DY357LX
Gouki146
Posted 7:54 AM 20/8/08
I did earn half the achievements diligently until I read this post. I tried the "cheat" but have to say it felt better when I won traditionally albeit Im rich B*TCH!
Gouki146
MPSai
Posted 9:27 AM 20/8/08
This will work out fine with me, I'm 5,000 gold in debt!
MPSai
robinandtami
Posted 12:03 PM 20/8/08
Everyone needs to quit griping about spinnerbox and how hard it is to win money in this game. If you take the time to read the info screens, it tells you straight out that the odds favor the house; as they do in any and every casino you will ever walk into.
robinandtami
isobelle
Posted 12:43 PM 20/8/08
@Mootsmcboots: you know, that might actually get me to play a FF game.
isobelle
Tarnis-Phoenix
Posted 2:36 PM 20/8/08
When I'm at 2.5 Million for 1 Character and all 6 pre-gens have all 15 Unique items... plus at least 500K in gold.... I'm not complaining
Tarnis-Phoenix
DHX
Posted 6:12 PM 21/8/08
I dunno, folks... I call shenanigans on this one.
I think this "glitch", as it were, was deliberately placed into this game! It's too perfect. Press LB for magic money..?? Yeah, okay. I think the joke's on us!
Fable II is an innovative game that will reward (or punish) choices YOU the player make, and I'm sure that encompasses this attachment game as well.
I think this "glitch" is an intentionally hidden temptation device placed by the developers to see if you either play fair like a good boy, or cheat! Maybe that's why it's taking this long to patch, if it even gets patched at all!
Don't be surprised if when you merge your patron and his ill-got gains into Fable II, something strange happens as a result of your debauchery.
Or maybe I'm just reading too much into this...
DHX