@DeLoRtEd1:
yeah i actually played competitively (was never "pro" though)

want to see a video of koreandj stomping the shit out of me?

traced

Man that actually looks like it would be a lot of fun to watch/take part in. Plus I have a seriously unhealthy attachment to Marvel/Capcom 2

sarcasmOD

Oh, Evo, why did you go down this wayward path...

Jest

oh he got the mango sentinel?
oh he so pringles. where yo curly mustache at?

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d0mino

Daigo Umehara's victory over Justin Wong? Legendary indeed. Evo is the only time I'd sit down and watch fighting game matches. Much respect to these players.

KeroseneClimax

@Mit: Wooahhh. I totally misread that comment. I basically thought it read, "and.. well, both Brawl and Melee are just crappy competitive games."

Yeah, my bad. Sorry about that traced.

To make up for it, I'll link this video:

The EVO moment at the end of this trailer (the one Ashcraft posted) somehow happens again.

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Same exact thing to the same guy. Shit must suck :P

DeLoRtEd1

@duderdude2:
It doesn't take a lot to enrage that community...

Demonbird

@SamuraiPanda:

Just curious, but what did Evo do to piss off Smash players?

duderdude2

@DeLoRtEd1: Damn that is some un sportsman hanging on the side so they loose. If i ever came up to someone doing that they gonna get a wiimote in the F&%KING EYE!

ThatsMrOffDutyNinja

Evo... Lost all interest this year. CVS2 replaced Guilty Gear, Brawl is... hammers and smashballs...

Demonbird

@DeLoRtEd1: You call him retarded for saying Brawl is less of a competitive game than Melee, and then you link to an extremely competitive Melee video... ? Who's retarded again?

Anyhow, I'm not very familiar with Street Fighter, but I'm guessing it is very difficult to do that many techs/parries/whatever in a row and then win a match.

Mit

Ah, EVO... making people who think they're good look like absolute go se.

LionheartAce

@traced: Are you retarded? Lol.

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DeLoRtEd1

@SamuraiPanda:
*laughs* Looked at your comment, thought "Hey, someone who knows what they're talking about." Shoulda looked at your name first, woulda known that ahead of time anyway. You goin' to this still?

DarkHogosha

God that looks like fun. Wish I would have known about it more than a few days in advance :/

MisterMcThursday

@DarkTetsuya:
Yes, it's necessary. It's probably one of the most legendary Evo moments in Evo's history. Hell, Daigo isn't even that much of a top player anymore (didn't he quit for a while?), and people STILL think he's the cat's pajamas because of that moment. The moment DEFINES "legendary".

I wanna go back. Haven't been there since 2005. I've wanted to go back each year, and each year something's come up. Here's hoping for 2k9. Can't wait to see how a couple of my friends are doing out there this weekend.

DarkHogosha

@SamuraiPanda: Yeah their rules for Brawl are terrible, which is really odd, given how considerate they were when hosting the Melee tourney last year.

Also...well, Brawl is just a worse competitive game than Melee...

traced

Should be "Become a legend, Stay Virgin."

ThatsMrOffDutyNinja

I still enjoy seeing that Ken vs Chun Li clip, though I don't see the need to have a fighting game sausage party.

ghostadv

Evo 2008 has made quite a few mistakes. They included Brawl, a game quite early in its development, which is fine... but then they pissed off the entire Smash community they should be trying to appeal to. And they also decided not to include Guilty Gear this year for silly reasons, despite GG being one of the most popular fighters currently.

Now that Evo doesn't have sponsors, and the payout is determined just by the number of attendees, I can't see Evo 2008 being much of a success. I hope they fix their stupid rules for Smash for 2009 though, and I'll look forward to potentially participating sometime next year.

SamuraiPanda

Gotta love that classic footage at the end with Ken vs. Chun Li

Boudabras

if theres one thing i hate more than watching someone else play a fighting game, its standing next to a bunch of loud sweaty cheering people while watching someone play a fighting game. and this is just local tournaments.

bigman88zz

the ken parrying chun-li's super never gets old.

people shouldn't throw their shirts into the audience after winning at a video game... especially chubby people~

Alpha85

1) I love Ayumi Hamasaki
2) @#$@$ MLG "Professional" Gamers. THESE guys are the REAL PROFESSIONALS.

exkon

@Cirno: also I've seen that replay at the end so many times, but it's still mind-boggling whenever I see it. @_@

Cirno

Ooh both SFIV and SSF2THDR will be there? DO WANT!

And no offense, but was that evo2k4 highlight really necessary? I mean who hasn't seen it by now?

I do wonder what guys like daigo thought of SF4, though.

DarkTetsuya

Someday I'll work out what it is about tourneyfags that makes me ashamed of being a gamer.

Antialias

ack! one weekend late! my wallet is still recovering from this past weekend. would have loved a chance to see Tatsunoko vs. Capcom in person.

ForAllThatEverWas

I'd hate to be the guy who was captured shadow boxing during a video game competition...lol

henhowc

Time is Pop is the best Evolution remix, hands down.

Cirno

That actually looks pretty fun. Too bad I live on the other side of the country.
Also, EEEWWW, TEKKEN! They should have Soul Calibur or Virtua Fighter instead.

Placentasaurus

Anyone else notice that the song played during the trailer is from Killer 7?

Looks like another awesome tournament. If my VF5 skills were sharp another the event would be a blast to participate in. Oh well, another year as spectator is entertainment enough. :P

Feivel

I AM SO EXCITED FOR THIS EVENT.
i was actually supposed to attend, but... some financial problems got in the way. maybe next year.

one of their organizers Jason Chen has called out for a change in the names appearing in the Top 8 for each game.
i wanna see that change too. i hope there's some new faces to show the vets that there's still more.

flight240

these are you serious pro gamers. holy wtfffff, nothing beats that classic daigo vs wong comeback. omfgggggggg.

chills down my spine everytime i see that.

oneshot_

@duderdude2: After running Melee in 2007, where most people had a good time and one of the organizers even made a point on his blog that the Smash community was amazing, they decide to change the rules on people by not only turning items on, but turning on smash balls and hammers. Say what you want about it, but smash balls, etc, are so powerful the game starts to revolve around them after a while and it makes characters like Fox/Falco/Wolf and Sonic that much better (final smash = bye bye 2 stocks, not good for a 3-stock match), and the fact that they drop almost randomly doesn't make it much better. I'm not going to go much deeper, I'm just going to say that that's the way the community plays, we like it that way and we do have our reasons for it, but at the risk of me looking like an idiot, I'll let more knowledgeable people talk about it. Anyway, after a lot of rebuttals, the usual response was "deal with it, because we're not listening to you". To put it short, they completely ignored the smash community's input (though it's probably the very same community that is the reason Brawl is even there this year) despite people coming up on the forums, giving long, thought-out statements, and just getting ignored.

Honestly, they should have kept Melee for another year. It's already been established as a tournament fighter (people still play it today even though Brawl is out) while Brawl is still in its infancy. Maybe in a year Brawl will be better, but I still think it's too soon for it.

@Demonbird: Correction, it doesn't take a lot to enrage the 12-year old kids in the community that just joined because Brawl came out. When Melee first came out, the boards were a mess then, too. But most people eventually either got tired of the game and moved on to other things or they actually matured and got smarter. Then Brawl came out and it's the same thing all over again.

Pissing off those guys are easy. But in order to piss off some of the more respected members of the smash community, some of which really care about the game and have been playing it for a long time, that takes something.

talking_chicken

Melee is definately a better competitive than Brawl will ever be. Game is far too forgiving and random.

Excited to see mvc2 and 3rd strike though! Only console games that I could play for over 2 hours straight.

jookie

@sarcasmOD: It's an absolute blast, and I don't even really like fighting games. EVO's a lot of fun because no one takes themselves too seriously (*COUGH* BULLSHIT MLG PRO GAMERS *COUGH*); it feels more like an afternoon with friends at an arcade, instead of a competition. The only way the event would be more perfect is if they had NBA Jam machines, and a couple of consoles running Super Bomberman and NHL 95. It'd be like I was 14 all over again.

JustThisGuy

Funny timing, I just dusted off the 'ol Dreamcast last week and been indulging myself with its Capcom Fighters. I can't quite put my finger on why but every one of those titles has a real timeless quality about them, even with all the 2D jaggies. Really have to figure out where my Third Strike disc went to, so I can suck at the parrying system all over again.

Mohrdikai

Sah-WEET! I live in Vegas AND I'm off this weekend!! I am soooooooo there!!

Knoxximus (360/PSN)

I'm solely going for Tatsunoko vs. Capcom.

Oh, and boyfriend support. :)

Reinbach

Wooooooooooooooooooooo!!!! EVO BABY!!! SRK heads represent! Third Strike Dudley user here! I will make EVO one of these days. Not this year though. :-(

Figcoinc

@Mohrdikai: nice. i love my cast and collection of capcom greats.

shouryuuken

@SamuraiPanda: Man, you even troll here? That's just gettin' old. Do you really have to bring the whining here? Get over it.

As for EVO, I really wish I was going. Though, hearing about Brawl's turnout this year, combined with all the games they're talking about running with next year, I can't wait to go to what looks like a largely unchanged event in one case come 2k9, and an otherwise mostly new lineup of games in every other front. Win/win for me!

Cyntalan

WTF @ 1:22

Silenced

lols at how serious it is. tournaments...ooohohhhhhhh boy

push eject

oh fuck i leave in two days i am so excited

AGGHHHHH

tsukihimeblood

Seeing that Tatsunoko vs Capcom is being shown there is a good sign for it showing up outside of Japan. I'm honestly more excited about it than SF4.

Sight

Nice use of a Killer7 track.

Ping5000

One day I hope to get down there for some Tekken action. High level competition is so much damn fun. Beats 'HAHA THAT ITEM RANDOMLY KILLED YOU LOLOLOL' shit that is prevalent in most of the Nintendo shit I've been playing. God I hate you Sakurai.

jbiller

Dang, I'll be in Vegas the next weekend. Ah well. The only fighting tourney I ever took part in, that wasn't just people goofing around, I only made the second round, but I aced the first guy's Ken with a Zangief SPD in SFA3. You should have seen him go apeshit. I hope to check out something of EVO's caliber live one day.

@jbiller: Then why aren't you playing tekken and not Brawl? Its an easy fix.

StrikerGold

@ThatsMrOffDutyNinja: What would you want them to do? Get up and beat the Falco? Falco's trying to win, not gain "respect" by allowing his opponent to make a comeback. In a competitive tournament, the game knows no honor, only wins. Remember that, apply that, learn your game and you'd get more respect then making up your own rules and limiting what you can do.

Shalashaska

@Shalashaska: Yeah I guess there is no honor in kicking a person when they are down. Or hey bringing a gun to a fight right? I win thats all that matters is it? Having no honor sucks I'll take my ass kicking as a man, no problem. Hope he can play with a wiimote to the eye, all fair right?

ThatsMrOffDutyNinja

EVO all the way! Good post Ash!

MarkMan

@ThatsMrOffDutyNinja: Ehm, you're not comparing real life with a game here, are you?

Tyheam

ahahaha

this video is too funny

Tatsujinken

@jbiller: You realise you can turn off items yeah? That is sort of how competitive Smash is played when the rules are decided upon by people who actually know what they're doing.

vantesaur

@ThatsMrOffDutyNinja: The tournament have rules to follow, but if it's allowed by the rules you should do it. It's like those silly people who think throwing is cheap! Or rolling. Or parrying. Where does it end? Let's listen to all these people and their crazy "codes of honor" and end up with a game where you may only use the same character and light jab. 9_9
I think hanging on the edge was an awesome tactic, I'm not that into smash but that made more interested in playing it more.

Yin

oops couldnt add this comment but sbo is better to watch fyi just cuz ppl tier whore less there than evo.

maraxusofk

this jsut in tatsunoko vs capcom's version of magneto is alex, complete with a inifinite that will take ur entire life away!

EVO needs gg. sf3 shouldnt be in evo if gg isnt. i mean in both games the americans typically lose first round at SBO (since winning evo is how americans qualify for SBO). sf2 and tekken are different stories.

maraxusofk

But other than that Imma go next year, really wanted to try out Tatsunoko vs. Cacom. Oh well, E for All Expo better have a demo for it.

shrek187

They better add Guilty Gear Next year. Hell they better add Blazblue.

shrek187

Just popping in to say respect for the Ayumi shout out Bash.

WasabiJoe

Brawl does not belong at EVO. Guilty Gear does.

wtf.

Z4N5H1N

@SamuraiPanda:
They took Guilty Gear out of Evo because they felt the GG community wasn't taking themselves seriously enough, showing up late, and just generally being unprofessional.

BitKid

Man that Daigo vid is just immense. Especially when the crowd starts going absoloutely crazy. Its seriously insane.
@exkon: Doesn't MLG do team games? So you can't really compare the two, right?

Refused

That Diago moment is just amazing.

convercide

That Justin Wong clip is awesome no matter how many times I've seen it.

Video needed more PRINGLES though.

ncsbert

hi samuraipanda.
LOL @ Brawl. Not only did they horribly mess up the rules, but now the only people going are Wes and Ken/Manacloud, and they live in the West Coast. It's hilarious to see how nobody bothered to sign up for those broken rules. Serves them right. If you're going to include Smash you need to include the Smash community. Otherwise this happens- nobody shows up.

ZinkO: Beat Incursion

Everyone's too cool for the room huh? They have to make fun of people actually having a good time and enjoying themselves?

Yes someone shadow boxed... etc etc... so what?! They're having fun, and i'm sure you all look just as stupid when you let yourself go too. There is no reason to come down on people having a good time. I wish you all good times and moments where you can enjoy yourself as you see fit... hopefully without people on blogs and message boards criticizing your life.

Yeah... they were having fun... does that threaten you?

Street Fighter is still alive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Diago moment is and will always be incredible... I still cant parry like that.

DwindleFlip

@ZinkO: Beat Incursion:

Honestly, EVO is run by the Capcom community, for the Capcom community. Smash wasn't the only community screwed over, the GG community was screwed over as well- largely due to a dislike of the GG community.

There are other major fighting game tournaments out there- such as NEC, Final Rounds, and MWC, that work well and deserve more attention. (Based in Philly, Chicago, and Atlanta respectively) I will never attend an Evo due to its practices, but I am willing to attend those others.

Oh, and Wong had the same thing happen to him AGAIN about two weeks ago in England. He never learns.

arstal

the daigo clip at the end... one of the most impressive displays of skill ever recorded. Why do i say that? Well, there are ALOT of people (myself included) that can parry an extensive array of moves, a few less for super combos, but those are usually scripted, and in training mode. He did this IN A NATIONAL TOURNAMENT in the middle of a match, while losing, and everything on the line. Tell me that isn't legendary....

Ctsephy

@Cyntalan:

I'm hoping that trolling comment was some sorta' in-joke.

Otherwise, what the hell? He was just the first to say what's on the mind of every other competitive Smasher here, newbie or crusty old vet (I'm the former). There's no point in going further into the matter, other than to add that EVO organizers ASKED the Smash community what they should do, and then did whatever the hell anyways. THAT'S insulting.

As far as GG goes, I don't understand the whole "community not taking themselves seriously" thing. Some top East Coast players came to Rutgers for a tournament we held there in April (including someone apparently super-awesome named Kyohei), and they were awesome. From what I heard, nobody was late to a match, and the whole thing ran smoothly (aside from the match-caller needing a bit of friendly assistance). They had fun, but it sounded like they took themselves pretty seriously.@

ZinkO: Beat Incursion:

Really? Those are the only two big names coming to EVO? Guess I'm not surprised. I know for a fact that everyone here in the Northeast has said "hell no," though we speculated M2K would go since winning money for Smash is his destiny.

^o^; Wow. That's a long way for them to go to get f'd over by random item nonsense.

Superhacker75mil

@arstal:
Quite right. GG, I think, certainly deserved a spot. Even with their conduct at Evo 2k7, they've certainly done very well after that, well enough to earn a spot IMO.
@Superhacker75mil:
Yeah, SRK has so much dislike for the Smash commmunity it's almost comical. After all that last year about how great the ommunity is and how much it grew, then this. I bet there's a lot of bad feeling now. I really don't know what they were thinking. Surely they didn't believe that the few dozen or so SRK Smash players knew the game better than the 100k SWF crowd?
In any case, I'm basing my assumptions on attendance on the list of pool assigments, so there might be a few people not on that list, but still. Half the people there don't even have tags.
I just counted, and there's a little over 100 people signed up for brawl, but very few of them are just brawlers. Nearly all are playing two or three Capcom games too. Including JWong, for what it's worth.

ZinkO: Beat Incursion

I love the song they used and it seems to blend pretty well in the way they used it...

Daigo is awesome and it would be pretty awesome to see something like that live, even if he had lost, he already had overshadowed his opponent...

The fact they have SSB tournaments (which for me isn´t even a fighting game) instead of KOF really bothers me, but since is an US based tournament i´m not really surprised; If this were a latin tournament, you would see KOf all over the place, because is a really good game and it is the most played fighting game over here in Mexico (that´s why SNK always do mexican fighters)...

Daisuash

I used to live in vegas and I played with some of the locals that go to EVO every year and they are insane players.

Heh one of my friends did fairly well in the SF2 tourney last time around.

Too bad I'm not out there anymore. I wanna see blazblue and tatsunoko vs. capcom

RPGEmperor

I'll be in Vegas that week. Am I able to watch the tourney for free?

NoBullet

@ZinkO: Beat Incursion:

SRK heads will believe black is white if the head honchos there tell them that. Never underestimate the power of brainwashing.

As for GG, they should move their nationals to FRXI. GG community is strongest in the Southeast (which is the area of the country that the Capcomites shitted on for ages, so things developed differently there). It's also why SNK games have some strong followings in the Southeast as well- North Carolina, Georgia, and Florida have SNK scenes, North Carolina especially.

Wong can play anything though, he's that good. He just needs to learn not to use Chun Li super for chip damage.

arstal

@ThatsMrOffDutyNinja: That's why I said "learn your game". I didn't say get all defensive playing with someone physically because they're better than you. If you play video games competitively, you play with everything on the line, because there is. You have next to nothing to lose and probably a lot to gain, be it money, or sponsorship or whatever. I never made any outrageous claim about using such tactics in real life.

Shalashaska

It is good to see Ayumi still getting around. J-Idols come and go so fast. Has anyone been popular for more then 5 years? I can't think of any, but she comes close.

I really miss Capcom vs SNK 2. I'm going to be singing [ This is the true love makin'] for most of the night now. How could you forget those lyrics!

mooglegiant

@DarkHogosha:

Yah, Daigo retired for about 2 years I believed, and then came back and was beaten, according to what I have heard, he mentioned that he wasn't used to the PS2's timing.

@DarkTetsuya:

He has been seen playing SFIV

@Mit:

It is, parry needs precise timing, and to stop a special, god speed

@DeLoRtEd1:

It isn't the same, Daigo did an air parry, a freaking air parry! that, and the fact that it was on the finals, is what made it amazing

Anyway, as far as Daigo goes, for me, what made him legendary was this match

+ Watch video

second round, Daigo beats him in 10 seconds...

Noshino

@mooglegiant:
Megumi says hi.

arstal

@ThatsMrOffDutyNinja: Not the same thing. Everything is allowed within the boundaries set forth by the game and the rules agreed upon by the competitive community surrounding it. Using a perfectly legal tactic to beat your opponent is a thousand times better than physically hurting them because you're mad you lost. And not using the tactic when you could have is tantamount to taking it easy on your opponent. No "honor" in that.

The only "honor" is derived when competitors face each other with everything they have, holding nothing back, in their pursuit of victory.

On topic: wish I could go to Evo this year. Too bad the Brawl ruleset's so gimped -- and that the game's balance is so broken :( (so far, at least)

PNcHO

@push eject:

theres money involve, so i would be too.

_MJ_