@ajiezer:
The thing is, the MK dudes have never been just regular people. I mean Scorpion is from hell, and I'm sure dudes from hell are pretty tough. Sub-Zero is an ICE NINJA. Liu Kang (unconfirmed to be playable...probably will) can morph into A DRAGON and is a zombie. So they probably can rough Superman up a bit.

neoepochx

I dunno but it still feels wrong, I mean Superman should kick anyones' ass big time, I'm not quite sure of buying it.

ajiezer

@okenny :( ... not sure what to believe in anymore:
@Thorax:

Sorry, but the 360 d-pad IS bad. This isn't overblown, otherwise you wouldn't see gamers/bloggers/reviewers bringing it up so often, especially when the pad is the sole means to play a game. Playing any game that requires precision (like, say, SC4) is a pain, as 10-20% of the time, a cardinal direction input comes out as something in between. It's quite annoying when a f+B comes out as a df+B.

Like what Datheron said, it feels "mushy." If I'm just holding L on the d-pad but I shift pressure ever-so-slightly up or down a little bit, I can actually feel when it does its slight shift to DL or UL no-man's-land, even though I'm only holding L. Tt doesn't conform to how the d-pad is set up. The margin of error is pretty big.

EComni

@Knoxximus (360/PSN): Do you know if they sell them online? My Game Crazy went out of business, and is now an erotic cake store.

Thorax

"The game plays just as you'd expect a Mortal Kombat game to play."

Slow, clunky, and with stiff animations?

VSpeck

I will never play this game. Superman just kills it for me.

Rubix42

I'd still like to hear someone explain why they think the cross over is so bad. I think it's an awesome idea. The only impression I get from others is that it just sort of inherently sucks. Anyone care to elaborate?

liquidnumb

@okenny :( ... not sure what to believe in anymore: I jumped on no such bandwagon. I hate the 360's d-pad because of personal experience with it and came to the conclusion that it blows. I think my Hori DOA4 arcade stick was the best purchase I made for the 360 and it's nice to see that they brought out a SC4 version as well.

DrunkenTrom

@okenny :( ... not sure what to believe in anymore:

I like the 360 dpad, but it's difficult to double-tap with any sort of consistency.

Strangelove

@Thorax: I just got these snap on triggers for the DS3 from the local Game Crazy and let me tell you, they make a WORLD of difference.

Knoxximus (360/PSN)

"What do you mean we canceled the next game in the series for this crap? I'll slap you!"

Thunder-1

This still looks like complete ass, you think the idea of classic MK characters would be enough but they had to throw in...DC characters?

DC Vs. Marvel would have been much more appreciated. Still, hopefully it turns out well and we get MK Vs. Marvel, MK Vs. Star Wars, MK Vs. some guys from Capcom, etc etc. MK by the barrelfull!

Thunder-1

@okenny :( ... not sure what to believe in anymore: I agree. It's almost as bad as the DualShock 3's triggers. Some people admit that they are not as ergonomically built as they could be, and then get over it. Other people act like Satan himself designed the controller.

I'll hold out hope MK vs DC can be a good game despite the horrible cross over.

Thorax

I like the bikini tan lines on her pelvis (read: might buy it).

sisedi

@lenandude: Ur face looks dumb.

I'll probably get it just cause I'm missing a fighting game from my 360 library. DOA4 just didn't work for me, and I loved all the other ones.

Thassodar

Urggh, I've just been playing Mortal Kombat Armageddon, I thought I would add it to my rental list. It's been years since I've played a MK game and it hasn't aged well.
The general crapness of that was enough to put me off playing any new MK game.
Straight back by return of post for that sick little puppy.

Weirdwolf

How is possible that you found little bad details (just for being nitpicky) in Resistance 2 and LBP, and in this one you didn´t say nothing? I was just expecting this preview to read in big bold letters: " BIG PILE OF SHIT"...

Daisuash

@okenny :( ... not sure what to believe in anymore: I actually think the d-pad problem exists on some 360 controllers; I have three controllers, and I refuse to play Lumines Live (I use the d-pad for more accuracy) or NBA 2k8 (for calling plays) on all except my one "good" controller. The thing just feels mushy on the others, and doesn't give you the tactile feedback to let you know whether the direction pressed was registered or not.

Datheron

If I type in ABACABB or use my Game Genie on the crow, does that turn the blood back on?

dry-roasted-peanuts

I was definitely dismissive of this but I have to admit that the videos (especially that recent 4 minute one) are swinging me over (almost as if I had a harpoon in my chest and someone said 'Get Over Here!')

I just love the old school MK (MKII for the genesis specifically) so if this can reconnect with that vibe plus fold in the superheroes in a non 'scooby-doo-meets-sonny-and-cher' kind of way, I'm in!

the-hypnotoad

Unless it plays like MK4 or prior, there's no way this game will be any good.

MR. FAP★FAP!

I still have my money on this game being crap.

RonCey

This game looks dumb.

lenandude

My brother is going to be eating this game up, he's loves his MK. Judging from your impressions, he will probably get over the fact that DC characters are in it pretty quickly.

DerrickDS

The 360 D-Pad issue is completely overblown. Unlike the RROD issue, people seem to have jumped on this bandwagon wile 95% of the population go on jut playing games fine. I suppose you could say ignorance is bliss and to that I answer: yes it is ;)

okenny :( ... not sure what to believe in anymore

*Sits and waits for Street fighter 4*

showshaboy

I'm confused... it's a 2D fighter, but... you can move around the 3D level... Doesn't that make it 3D?

FATDAN

Most fighting game sorts have joysticks that don't have the analog. Midway should change that if possible.

arstal

I'm not sure how I feel about MK characters doing fatalities on the DC characters, especially since DC characters only have brutalities.

I came up with a list of fatalities for some the DC characters. If anyone at Midway happens to read the comments on Kotaku, these are for you:

Wonderwoman: Uses invisible lasso to make enemies tell most embarrassing secrets, then uses it as a noose, finally gives the rope a yank and pops head off.

Superman: punches enemy into the sun, then flies around earth backwards to reverse time just so he can do it again.

The Flash: runs a circle around the enemy so fast their body twists up like a twizzler, which he then cuts into pieces and sells at movie theaters for $10 as "red vines"

Black Canary: Does something related to whatever the hell Black Canary does.

wanion

@liquidnumb: I suppose people just don't want to see their beloved DC characters mixed in as common fighters in a fighting series that has not been good in a long while.

Furysetzer

But stage fatalities were awesome... ='(

and how can a fighter NOT have a run button?! COMON!

well il have to try for myself cuz i am interested never the less

King Seafoam

@okenny :( ... not sure what to believe in anymore: It might just be that some of the controllers are poorly built, but all of the controllers I've tried that came with each my 360s had terrible dpads. Not only are they mushy, but it detaches from whatever it presses to register the motions. I often find myself needing to roll the dpad in order to get it realigned after one of the directions detaches during sessions of dpad heavy gaming. On that note, I also find the PS3's triggers ergonomically challenged but at least they function properly.

branny

Toasty!!!

exkon

i myself haven't liked mk since 3. but i want to try this just to play as the dc heroes.

what's funny about this and sc 4 is how people went bat shit crazy as to why they exist. "darth vader would kill everyone"
"superman would kill everyone"
yet everyone embraced the wacky combinations capcom came up with. jill "the master of lockpicking" valentine versus apocalypse??

cihx

@Daisuash: Despite your accusation that "you didn't say nothing", if you actually read the article you will be pleased to find criticism of the game. Also, who cares what he thinks right now? The game isn't even finished.

sarcasmOD

@wanion: You are touching on a rather important aspect of the DC comic universe, in that half the characters are indestructible with powers that could destroy the earth without too much effort, and the other half are essentially humans with gadgets and super-advanced-but-still-human abilities, like Batman and Green Arrow.

Regardless of what Midway says (weakness to magic my ass), and how amazing MK vs DC ends up being, Superman fighting guys and not obliterating them will just seam stupid.

ludwigk

@dry-roasted-peanuts: funny thing is, in GuiltyGear, when you punch someone, you would often pritty much pull out a weed waker, just look at gameplay videos from tournament play. One thing i noticed about MK is that the games (after 3) dont look that spectacular combo wise. its just too hard to pull one off. somebody find me a tournament posted to youtube or some other video site.

dacresni

@KaneRobot: no, MK4 was the last game to keep to a memerable contole scheme (DA scorpion: a, ax kick b, slap, c, uppercut, d, sweap) WTF? and everyone's buttons are different, how do you learn how to play that game, and there's not one similarity to the prior games x-cept a few moves that HAPPEN to be similar. have u PLAYED anything before MK4? i still like mk3 ultimate the best. best fighting engine. stage fatalities are fun if they're funny. better than that custom fatality crap, (what button do i use to pull their arms off?)

dacresni

@liquidnumb: The crossover, in and of itself, is not a bad idea. What I don't like about it is that the only way the crossover can happen is that Midway has to tone down Mortal Kombat to get access to the DC characters.

Mortal Kombat is known for the gore factor. Sure, Boon has said there will be "fatalities" in it, but I don't buy that they will not be anywhere near as graphic as the norm of the franchise (no head ripping, no ripping someones leg off and then beating them to death with it, etc). Look at the videos. It used to be you simply punch someone and it was like you hit them with a weed-whacker. It was an Evil Dead level of over-the-top violence. Look at it now. Anyone else getting that MK1 SNES gray sweat vibe?

That is what I don't like about it. It's the video game equivalent of a studio taking an R rated movie franchise and putting out a PG-13 sequel.

I'd love to be proven wrong on this, but them only showing Scorpion's fire fatality (the same one that was unaltered in the SNES port) doesn't fill me with hope for the head chopping, heart ripping, arm tearing MK I love.

dry-roasted-peanuts

@okenny :( ... not sure what to believe in anymore: Nope. It's just a terribly inaccurate D-Pad. I used to hate those types of D-Pads when they were on SNES 3rd party controllers.

Dragon_Warrior

it doesn't look too bad.Sure, superman should beable to bash them all but you know...it's a game.

QuickPick

This game looks as if it will be a cool fighter to have. I like the style of fighting in this game. I can't believe the hype that surrounds games like Soul Calibur 4 (I hate that game). I dunno, maybe I'm just old school.

torgojones

@Thorax: Can't say...tried to google but nothing and the company's website (gioteck.com) isn't up yet. Hit this link to see what they look like tho, and this ebayer is selling them in the UK...didn't see any domestic aucitons.

[cgi.ebay.com]

Knoxximus (360/PSN)

@MR. FAP★FAP!: Unless it plays like MK4 or prior, there's no way this game will be any good.

MK4 blew ass. MK Deception (and to a lesser extent, Deadly Alliance and Armageddon) was much better.

KaneRobot

This game has to be a big in-joke the gaming journalists are playing on all of us, because absolutely nothing I've seen of this game looks anywhere remotely good.

AlKusanagi

It still doesn't look like Midway understands how to make character models animate like they're not all obeying the exact same wireframe skeletons. Everyone throws a punch, kicks, jumps and dashes with almost the exact same motions. About the only 'unique' motions don't flow at all from previous poses (Sonya's bicycle kicks).

It might be fun in a nostalgic sense but honestly it still looks from the existing footage like it could have been 'Mortal Kombat vs. Anybody' with such bland animation design. If they're leaning on their Story Mode to immerse players into recognizing that Superman and Batman are more than just cosmetic swaps of each other then they're not going to win over any new hearts and minds.

Sekai

Mine works fine... I probably just don't play the way the people in the know play or a have a descent one. I just don't find myself ever going "DAMN IT! If this D-Pad was just worked then I could have beat that!". I always wanted to comment about this but I felt that I would get ridiculed but I'm ok with that now. I can clearly see the benefits of the Dual Shocks design but my gradient of opinion is fine enough that my options aren't love and hate, prefect and unusable, etc... that's just my take.

@DrunkenTrom:
I refuse to play SF4 on a controller. I plan to get a new Hori stick for my 360 when the time comes to mark my entry back into fighting games :)

okenny :( ... not sure what to believe in anymore

what the.. you were excited about mk4?!?! man thats hands down the worst mk ever created... deadly alliance was the only decent 3D mk to come out. deception was alright, but pretty much the left overs of mk:da in my book.. almost all the folks i wanted to see appeared in da an were pretty awesome there. deception lost the wow factor da left me with for actually being playable after the disaster that was mk4.

shouryuuken

I'm actually extremely excited for this, i was rather interested since ive been reading dc for ages but what made me go that's an absolute buy is the Joker coming in and laughing while punching people to death, that will make the everything in the dc universe that much sweeter.

Go Team Venture

@TK423: I don't understand why everyone keeps repeatedly shitting on this game.

i believe it's because the vast majority agrees that just the notion of DC vs the MK universe is silly. I can't explain why capcom came out fine with the huge melting pot that was Xmen vs Street Fighter and the Marvel vs Capcom. I don't now. Maybe I accepted it because it was 2D and cartoonish but I have to say I am not in the slightest excited about this game.

offsafety

I don't understand why everyone keeps repeatedly shitting on this game.

I'm looking forward to it.

TK423

@cihx: Hah! Good point. You know, they really got away with some crap characters in those vs games too when you think about it. I mean, what the hell is a Shuma-Gorath?

TSlade

@okenny :( ... not sure what to believe in anymore:

The 360 D-pad is the worst D-pad out of the 3 consoles, and one of the worst in gaming history.

EnigmaNemesis

@KaneRobot:
Eew, no. Deadly Alliance and Deception are when they fucked the games up and made the characters so heavy and move slow as molasses.

MR. FAP★FAP!

look at the d-pad, not the Playstation logo shopped on the Saturn controller -_-

ruba-dub-dub

@ everyone bitching about the 360 d-pad:
[www.instructables.com]

and for the record the best d-pad in gaming history:
[www.gamesarefun.com]

ruba-dub-dub

@ruba-dub-dub: YES F'n Genesis/Megadrive 6 Button controller and the Saturn ones are the best

and i mean. EVER!

Now Sega, since you're losing money on milking sonic. Can you just make more controllers? PLEASE?

KaliKOtt

For those who say Superman & Shazam should just obliterate everyone...

... just don't play as them.

But then you're probably the sort who's not buying it anyway. :P

Chadders

Does sonya blade SERIOUSLY have a fucking tan line?

for pete's sake thats dumb.

iameleveneight

Shazzam

UncleAndross

So confused now. I want this game but there are so many ignorant people out there that laugh at the concept of this game.

Alright here we go.

1. What the hell is the MK univers filled with?

Answer: Magic, Supermans weakness. And every character uses some form of magic. In the MK universe, Earthrealm is a part of an entity called the One Being, obviously magical since the thing got split up and soon reunited (thanks to one dumbass <_<). Realms made of magic, Superman is practically in air made from magic.

2: This is Midways rendition of a MK game mixed with DC
characters so how can this be silly?

Answer: None. Its a freakin fighting game where you use magic or physical attacks to beat the crap out of your opponents. There are still fatalities, and the heroes get brutalities. DC doesn't want a negative image for their Superheroes.

3. I know we all who loved the game for its blood were alittle dissapointed, but honestly do you want to expose the stupid kids who ignore the ratings for the age group of this game, to blood, splattering bones, nightmarish death, and such?

Answer:....they're gonna buy it anyways :P

4: Why care about how graphic the fatalities are and how they are?

I already have a good example. Wouldn't burning someone to a husk kill them? Yes.

Wouldn't pounding someone from the head right into the ground kill someone? Yes. But the MK staff said they would still be alive because they don't want our heroes killing.

They are only fatalities and brutatlities in NAME. They still look like they are dead!!!

And one last question to anyone who can answer it....

Why do you think this game is silly? And none of that "this is a silly concept" crap or "this will be major fail cause....FREAKIN DC DUDEZ"

I want a good explanation. Midway has offered a perfactly good explanation as to why Superman can get hurt...MAGIC. AN AGE OLD AND EASILY CONFIRMED FACT!!!

seirio

The 360 D-Pad is the reason why I will NEVER, EVER, EVER buy it for the 360. Its just a complete of fail when it comes to input, especially slide techniques. I felt DualShock always provided a more tactile experince and I have no idea why the x360 didnt just do the same. Though I have to say on that note that i did hate the "Street Fighter Thumb" where an excess of puss would build up on the tip of my thumb which became a pain after many hours on SF Alpha 3.

TotaleeAwesome

Does is still control as horribly as every Mortal Kombat game has? Because, if so, I'm eating no crow.

Ad-hominem

@okenny :( ... not sure what to believe in anymore:

These are people who got their own controllers to play SF, VF, or SC. These are the hardcores who pay $200 for a stick- their controllers may play the Mega Man theme while they fight, but they don't have analog since fighters don't need it.

arstal

I'll throw in the rental que... but that's about it....

Mr.SithNinja

OP caption:

Sonya: How could you?! I'll never get my safety deposit back now.
Supes: I thought you were in trouble.
Sonya: I was watching Maury.
Supes: Why were you screaming?
Sonya: He wasn't the father.

ctunightfall