JUST DIE ALREADY!

ZetaCrossfire

Hmmmm...what would also be great is if they PUT THE BC BACK INTO PS3!

teeps1981

@JudgeNutmeg:

and ill say its a shpadoinkle day!

rustingmiller

If only they would make it like...100 and bundle it with MSG2 and 3. Then it would be mine. Because I sold my PS2 and still havent played those damn games.

spoonytrain

@LedRush:
I got a PS2 last week...

marfin

You'll probably see a PS2 price drop in April of next year.

KingBroly

I would buy one in a heartbeat at 100 as well. I dont know what they are waiting for. The sales numbers could jump even higher.

I myself have an original and I want one to replace it since its been acting weird for years, plus my guitar hero guitars need to be used on something. I am not hassling with addons for the PS3.

shadow763

I still have my PStwo in my drawer. Still doesn't see the light of day due to my PS3. It was a great system though and I'd recommend it still to any newcomers to gaming.

nflsonic

I'm with Fahey on this one. Once the PS2 drops to $99, I'm getting one to replace my poor, dying 30000-series launch model.

Altersparck

@JudgeNutmeg: Wow. You get an add just for that reference.

Anarchist_Gamer

This is great and all, Sony, but how about you ram that little guy up there into the back end of the PS3 (I'm sure you can find a big enough orifice) and give me my backwards compatibility back.

I will make a stand here. I still care about it.

Anarchist_Gamer

@xCruciaLx: *doesn't

xCruciaLx

@LedRush: I'll let you know. I think I'm the only person in the world who doesn't own one at this point. My friends all have them and I've gotten by playing those up until this point. However, there is a great catalog of games for it. I love JRPGs and with Persona 4 coming out later this year, I'm going to need to get one at some point. I'd just wish they would bring it down to $100.

Silent Predator

Damn, if only that slim PS2 turns hot like hell I would buy another PS2.

My fat PS2 is fugly. :(

xCruciaLx

Yeah, I'm jonesing for that sub-$100 price myself. My old PS2 is dying slowly and I'd really like to have a backup :(

Norellicus

Jesus Christ Sony just doesn't know when to let something die.

BlkMagik07

They cut the price by removing PS1 compatibility!

ZombieRace

So small it could fit in a PS3's empty space. Thougha PS3 playing PS2 games, well that would just be horrible.

Kenofthedead

My heart's as full as a baked potato.

JudgeNutmeg

@Scott3D: After £40 on average for new PS3 games, a £8 second-hand PS2 game is already "free" to me...I picked up about 10 of them in one week :)

Candlejack

Come on, just lower it to $100 and make me buy one for every family member...

trunks651

I bought the new red PS2 in Japan a few months ago, so I could go back and play some of the older games I missed out on. Coming from a someone who has an original launch PS2 back home, I appreciate the lighter size and lack AC brick. Should make packing it when I return home much easier.

drifter13

@LedRush: Not everybody wants to constantly upgrade. Some people are happy with one console. This way you have a PS2 for cheap with hundreds and hundreds of games under $20, new games coming in cheaper than current gen games and when the console finally dies the games will be practically free.

Scott3D

I've seen those in multiple stores in Sweden as well, so I guess they've been released in Europe also.

Currybullen

@gold5225:
You'll eat those words when they release another firmware that disables all backward compatibility.

Parkington

Needs less MSRP

mva5580

Still not at 100 bucks YET? Psh.

DoomDoomDoom

Why would anyone buy a PS2 now? I know it's cheap and has a great library, but it will not give lasting entertainment to the vast majority of gamers, who'll need to upgrade in a year or two anyway.

LedRush

This whole thing with Sony's PS2-PS3 keeps reminding me of Atari with the 2600-5200...although I'm not sure whether Atari was still making and revising the 2600 when they meant to move on to the successors.

Anyway...the PS2 won't die. It won't. It won't.

Candlejack

Huh why do they remove the ac cord?

it doesnt matter to me though cause i have a PS3 and im not planing on buying another PS2 any time soon or ever again.

gold5225

You know what's funny? A mere $30 is stopping some of you from buying a PS2. How many months or years have you been saying that now? You'd rather wait months to save $30 than to play the greatest library of games? Seriously? That's kind of sad. Real gamers you are not

LittleBigPlaneteer

@gold5225: s

I believe this model removes the Power brick and has it built-in to the Slim model itself. Thus there's no need for an AC adapter. Quite the improvement over the Slim for those like me that hate power bricks, but not really a huge improvement overall.

I don't think we'll see these drop to $99 until sales are very low, and that doesn't seem like it will happen for another year or two. Seriously, these things are selling great still. I almost wish my PS2 phatty died or something so I could have a reason to get one.

LittleBigPlaneteer

well seeing as a next gen console (360) is only 80 bucks more expensive now I think that the PS2 should be cheaper.

tooji

That's all I'm asking for..
"That's all he's asking for..."

A box without a chord.
A console I can afford.

That's all I'm asking for.

LettuceD

@Scott3D: Yep agreed.

@LedRush: There's a mainstream appeal to it given its diversity of its library. I'm sure the casual gaming crowd is going to take some time to get every "greatest hits" game completed. It's also a given that they're targeting a different consumer base with the PS2.

@y2julio: Might I suggest getting Shadow of the Colossus and the God of War games? SotC for the art style and the "ambience". God of War for the Wow factor. Some of the things done there still impress me to this day eventhough I'm supposed to be on the "next gen" consoles.

Don't mind the GoW haters. It's a very competent action game with just the right amount of puzzles thrown in. The story's not bad either.

It amazes me that the PS2 is still doing brisk business. That's what happens when you have a shitload of games that covers almost any genre...(Anyone know if it's got the Hentai crowd covered?)

excaliburps

@LedRush: I've never owned a last gen console but I've been looking at some nice games that I want to play that are only on the PS2 so I've actually been looking into buying one because I got the gimped PS3 without PS2 emulation.

y2julio

@ZetaCrossfire: NEVER

I bought my PS2 in January last year...and even though I have a a 360 and Wii now, the PS2 does get way more of my play time. There may be not that many great games coming out for it now, but there is a veritable truckload of shit already released for it.

Rocky_Winston

@teeps1981: they won't. I talked to a sony rep at GC and she told me that for sony, PS3 is the future and if they want to play PS2 games they should have a PS2 anyway.

Lorrr

@nflsonic: You should really donate old systems that still work. Hospitals, orphanages, poor families, etc.
Share the joy of systems to those who can still find a use.

Kenofthedead

Iam waiting for the 99€ PStwo.
The i will buy it :)

I was a Xbox Kid, because of that i dont own a PS2 :-(

KotakuFreund

It's Sony's way of saying that if you want PS2 B/C on your PS3, go and buy an actual PS2.

neuralien

So many great PS2 games I still have to acquire...

Wolfers

@CaptaiNeNN:

Buy a PS2 BC model now? They're still in stores you know.

LittleBigPlaneteer

@tooji: Great point

studvicious

@BlkMagik07: Um, what? Why would they "let something die" that's still raking in tons of money for them? Do yourself a favor man and never start a business.

Đipic

PS2-9000 series, huh?

Marduk

@LedRush:
Why do people still buy NES, SNES, Genesis and tons of other consoles? Because people like them and have fond memories attached to them.

StupidDufus

@excaliburps: yeah. I will pick up GoW. I've been looking at getting a PS2 for the Silent Hill series, the Fatal frame series and a bunch of scary games.

y2julio

@Lorrr: Well, there goes any hope of me ever buying a PS3. I can live without Final Fantasy XIII, I think, but if Sony asks me to give up on Persona 4 (or maybe someday beating Disgaea 2)... good day, sir. And no, I won't own two of their systems.

CaptaiNeNN

surely if you take the disc drive, ac adaptor, controller slots and memory card slots off they could just build them into the ps3.... please sony, give the world what it wants...
i would kill for a ps3 that works with all ps2 games since they never updated the compatability list and have now got rid of it.. my gimped emulation BC is evil :(

Technogamer1992

Maybe if I tape it to two Gamecubes It'll play Xbox360 games, I've heard good things about Dead Rising.

katsujinken

@LedRush: I will be buying one soon. Because it is cheap and because it has a huge library.

etchasketchist

I've been thinking about getting a PS2 Slim. I have a launch PS2, and a 60GB PS3, but they aren't that expensive, and I like to waste my money. (I did just buy an Xbox last month, after all. An ORIGINAL Xbox.)

armless-phelan

I wouldn't mind picking up an PlayStation 2 along with God of War 2.

NYKnicker

@Silent Predator: Hey that makes two of us.

Usama

@StupidDufus: And also, unlike optical media consoles, the NES, Genesis, etc, STILL WORK!

Skunky

@JudgeNutmeg:

this truly is a spa-doinkle-day.

relax_guy

@teeps1981: They should market this new model as the "PS3 Backwards Compatibility Upgrade Kit" and show a picture of the PS2 duct-taped onto the top of a PS3.

Skunky

I have been waiting and waiting to buy a PS2. I've only owned Nintendo systems all my life and I thought that with this (final?) revision (which was so hard to wait for because the slims were pretty awesome) they'd drop the price too.

Sorry Sony, I'm a cheapo bastard and I want my PS2 at $99.

Usama

Damn it... This means backwards compatibility on all PS3s will take even longer to come... Me be sad panda ;_;

Spedfrom

damn, i just bought a silver slim in june...

otis123

Now instead of putting out another PS2, they could work on putting those pieces inside the PS3 so it could play PS2 games. Plus, what money they spend on making PS2's is being wasted.

Ryodestined

When my first PS2 started scratching discs I made the mistake of replacing it with one bought at a pawn shop. It's only been months, I haven't used it that much, and it's already crapping out on me. Not to mention controller rumble doesn't work. So IF I replace it again I'd probably get this one. That's a big if because on one hand I still have a few PS2 games I want to finish, but on the other hand I never finished them because I hardly spend any time playing games anymore.

LeChuck

"... reader Schpadoinkle666" .. O_o ??

EvilMeowser

They should cut the ps2 off, give back bc, at a reasonable price, and ps2 owners will come. Same as wii, because that EYEPET it awesome.

Draw a gun....pow pow

Otherwise, this xbox 360 price drop to $199 is gonna take a slice of your share and a little of Nintendo's share.

TheTimeisback

@gold5225: They removed the power cord because it's solar-powered now. In the absence of sunlight, you can feed it cauliflower. :P

Antiterra

How the PS2 sells in 2008 only reflects how much Sony fails with the PS3

I don't think it will die soon if the trend continues

Sony doesn't seem to love their cash cow though =(

KaliKOtt

@Technogamer1992:

I agree. With Sony still manufacturing PS2s they should just plunk down a one time development cost to slim down the PS2 main components even more and form factor the PS2 "brain" into the PS3. This way they will get true backwards compatibility on proven technology.

I think part of the problem for Sony is that they are trying to be bleeding edge and brand their PS3 as having the best hardware in terms of power and HD entertainment, which it does, but they undercut their own message by tooting their horn about decade old technology.

Obviously Sony are still depending on the PS2 cash cow. I'm guessing that had the PS3 done better out of the blocks in terms of sales, the PS2 would probably be dead by now, or on life support at the very least.

dyl604

This still has atleast the same BC as the slim right? I'm buying a PS2, don't really care about anything other than that it can play my PS1 games.

Also, how did they remove the AC adapter. Isn't that important?

Putter5

@Ryodestined: If you look at sales figures, its not wasted.

KaliKOtt

I'm a super-hardcore gamer and have been meaning to get a PS2 but $130 is RIDICULOUS. I'm not going to be one of those suckers paying $99 next year either. My plan is to wait another eight years and get one for $15 off of eBay. WHO'S LAUGHING NOW?

Nimoy

Hope these show up soon where I'm at. My phat PS2 is definitely on its last legs and I want to pick up a new one lest I have to stop playing classics like Okami and SOTC.

dowingba

@Putter5:

I think they mean the transformer is *inside* the console, like in the old days :)

Snokie

rights, buying a double now.

lowercaseluke

@Nimoy: hey genius, buy a used one. I bought a used silver slim ps2 from a local game store for 75 bucks, they are even cheaper now.

superbryant

@LittleBigPlaneteer: Could it be the same people that rallied against the extra $5 for Braid?

"If we support buying at non-reduced prices, then all other consoles will follow precedent and not lower prices," I'd imagine would be their train of thought.

kftgr

@LittleBigPlaneteer:

It's a staring contest. They want Sony to blink first :)

But, as someone who finally caved in and bought a PS2 for $129, I agree with you. The library alone justifies any cost.

Snokie

@salsaman1991: No I think the adapter is built in to the unit, so you don't have an ugly brick sitting next to your sexy slim. Having the adapter inside increases the weight from something like 600g to 750g. Sorry I didn't bother to convert it to pounds, although I really wish we'd switch to the metric system.

Usama

Wait...the 90000 series is just like the last batch of PS2s, except it doesn't include the ac adapter. And the now old slims cost 5 bucks less and still have the adapter? No comment on that one...

salsaman1991

I remain astounded at the longevity of the PS2. I'm not sure who it is out there that keeping buying them, but they keep moving off the shelves somehow...

soulmonarch

@excaliburps:
I'm also wondering if there are any hentai games for the PS2. Purely out of curiosity, obviously *cough*

Combichristoffersen

I still have lots of games to play on my ps2 which include:
Shadow of the colossus and Okami

lallous

@LittleBigPlaneteer: Nah, the library is stopping me from ever buying one. I could pull the $130 out of my ass but I'd rather spend that for better things.

Shockadin

Come on Sony gimme a PS2 for $80 ;)

jinsaotomex4

@Scott3D: Yeah, I have all the old consoles, like the NES, Super Nintendo, Nintendo 64, Gamecube, PS2, and I'm fine with those. I get the newer games on my PC because most of the really good ones do come out for said platform now.

HellTempest

My first generation PS2 is still going strong. I think Sony is getting ridiculous with this.

synapticflow

PS2 will never die.... Im planning to get one more PS2 anyway. slimmer or not.

Dogswithguns

*NINETY

Knoxximus (360/PSN)

It's over NINTEY THOUSAAAAAAAAAAAND!!

...someone had to do it. *shrugs*

Knoxximus (360/PSN)

For goodness sake Sony just put BC in the PS3 AND improve it. Then lower the price of the PS3, done. let the old girl get the retirement she deserves.

Ryuujin1024

Also, why no WIRELESS controllers? Seriously.

Glare

Wait I don't get it, so how do you play it if you can't connect it to the electric outlet?

Glare

I guess Sony wasn't joking when they said they were expecting a 10 year life cycle for the PS2...8 years later and they're still redesigning it.

Cloud92

@Parkington:

sony would be in a world of shit if they disabled b/c on all launch 60gb units, as that was an advertised feature and one that i wanted and paid for.

that would be like someone buying a viper only to have the v10 removed by dodge and replaced with a v8.

won't happen, and would be suicide for sony.

kneehighspy

Bout time these got over here!! They've been in Japan forever. I was wondering when Sony would start to bring in the new ones.

Karisu-Zero

My replacement unit I bought had the power unit internally too, I think I bought it back in Feb/Mar down here in Aus.

el_rezzo

@Usama: Sorry I accidentally hit submit, anyway like this thing here [gadgets.in] .. they incorporated that 'brick' into the machine, but a wire still comes out that you plug into the wall.

Usama

@Glare: You can still connect it .. but what you lose is the brick that usually sat outside the machine. Like this thing here

Usama

@LedRush:

Me. I don't need it now 'cause my family has one, but when I move out, I'll probably have to by a new one (unless they give it to me!).

I still have quite a few PS2 games to finish too...

.em.

@LedRush: "Why would anyone buy a PS2 now? I know it's cheap and has a great library..."

Um, that's why.

dowingba

@Candlejack: this may surprise you but not everyone can blow money away on the next gen systems. There is a whole world out there that can't afford the latest gaming console.

Xtreme_Hindu_Cow

People are still buying these? WHY?

BONERJAM

I want my new Xbox!

Traczyk

I'm sold! I'm finally getting a PS2!!

First2Die

Sony, listen to me. Paint them white, add waggle, make kerjillions.

Mr.Bates

Its obvious they're trying to keep that 10 year life cycle they promised with their gaming products, such as the psp and ps3.

Since the PS2 came out in 2000 they should stop manufacturing it in 2010.

CAN'T WAIT!!!!

BTW i have a PS3 and my PSN ID is d3Vi0uSt0nY.

The-Joker

they are STILL selling PS2s?!!!/?1??! wtf?! i remember playing devil may cry back in 2000 on a ps2. jesus sony just focus on the ps3 and maybe youll get better sales

elislider

@LedRush: "Why would anyone buy a PS2 now?".

Well, maybe when their existing PS2 breaks down (as they inevitably do). And our PS3s have zero backwards compatibility, so that's not an option.

Treesus

My current near-launch PS2 is almost dead and I have no real need to venture into the current gen (with the exception of my Wii) until LBP starts calling. Some people have to be cutting edge, but I just want great games and I still have at least 50 of them that I need to play. It is not like the PS1 where the graphics were intolerable to me once I saw a PS2. The differences in graphics are significant, but also sort of negligible since the PS2 graphics have been good enough for me. I am still buying a ton of PS2, Xbox, and GameCube games. Personally, I am scared that my Xbox will die because there would be no way to play some of my games, even if I got a 360, which I am not planning on buying. When I see a used Xbox around here, like at a garage sale, I will probably buy it.

The only reason for me to get a current gen system is for online multiplayer, which was touted by Nintendo in all of their press conferences prior to the Wii launch and promptly tossed aside after that. Online co-op games are what may eventually make me cave in, but I need for at least one of my three gaming buddies to get a PS3 for that to happen.

kingofallcosmos

"Lovely! Now if they'd just knock down that price another $30 I would buy one for every room in the house."

Agreed! It's certainly one of my favorite systems.

dArk_stAr

I still use mine as a dvd player; I'll get a ps3 when I get an HDTV; waiting til Feb. next year for the price of them to plummet with the digital switch. Fiance works for Best Buy too; cost +5% ;).

kRaSh32