@SansSanity: Right on! Because it's not enough to just enjoy gaming...

dae_giovanni

@Modus_Operandi: I can understand that feeling we get as gamers but I guess I'm even skeptical of that these days because it's something that's based on image and it's to easily controlled by media. Case in point, Gamecock also published Hail to the Chimp and is also publishing Legendary (, the Box) and the first case it was picked up by the press as a wacky looking game... crazy stupid fun was the impression I got from the "impressions" out there but ultimately didn't seem like the kind of game I was willing to buy and play after more solid information came out after the games release. In the same right, Legendary was presented as a steaming hot turd on announcement by the media though I was kind of digging the idea (apparently they hated the name). It went dark and resurfaced with a new name and more time in the cooker but basically the same game and it's beginning to seem like a media darling. Now who knows what way the media will flop in the coming weeks but I've learned that I have to manage my own expectations and just wait for more solid information rather then souring myself on potential fun based on someone else's opinion.

It really just comes down to personal preference but I recommend you turn off your feelers or at least turn down the sensitivities until you get more concrete information as a lot of the stuff out there is just off. Way off usually. Then again, this is probably me being over-cautious due to my inability to manage my expectations in the past and being burned because of it :(

...I'm damaged goods :( *cries*

okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under)

Has anyone ever played the old PS game called "Poy Poy" ? It was a 4 player cut throat version of "dodge ball". But instead of dodge ball you push and shove "objects" on the playing field, such as boulders and stuff and they would travel at different speeds. The characters were all different in stats (speed,power) and you could equip them with specials.
Wish someone would bring that back...we used to have bit tourneys with that game. Agh the simple days of gaming.

RyuriTatsujin

Let's hope they put "From the guys that brought you Saints Row!" on the front.

TheRunningboard7

@SpiralJacobs: Pirates vs Ninja has also been latched onto by non-internet people, which is what makes this oh so the more lame. It's become one of those safe memes that are no longer underground but still seen as quirky, and thus sell to college freshmen and people that manufacture personalities out of pop culture icons. For me, the whole Pirates vs Ninjas thing is sooo 2000. Robots vs Zombies is even older. What's next, another goddamn Chuck Norris reference?

Is Super Dodgeball availible on VC? It's the only game for VC that I'd want to buy of software I already own, but only if it allowed for 4 players.

denki

Gamecock has a track record of thinking they're hilarious, and thinking that that humor is enough to make their games good.

It isn't, and Gamecock has got to realize it before I'm going to have any respect for them at all.

When I try to guess what they look like, I see a bunch of high school students with minimal knowledge of game design, drawing penises on everything and endlessly quoting old internet memes, laughing every single time.

QualityJeverage

I was interested when I assumed it was going to be a Wiiware game. Lost interest when I realized it would cost $50.

FriedConsole

@JuiceKup: It's weird how shovelware (assumption at that) coming to the Wii is the fault of the console, and automatically qualifies all 20m+ console owners as idiots/commoners/non-gamers or dolts as you put it, but shovelware on the 360 or PS3 is just the fault of the developers.

Cmon people... say no to gamer elitism

SansSanity

@Sotiris: Actually, its not "hat to do it"..... lol! Joking, joking...

I'm off my game, lately. My last x comments have been utter crap. Hell, maybe they all have been garbage and I'm only just now realising it? Hm.

dae_giovanni

The whole Pirates vs. Ninjas thing seems lame. I like both, though, can't help that. It's sort of like Steampunk to me - something internet nerds have latched onto, and beaten into sad, unfunny cliche.
Also see The Cake is a Lie for another example.

SpiralJacobs

Oops, I wrote I hat to do it. Lol, now I'm gonna get, like, a hundred of flame comments... *HAD

Sotiris

@dae_giovanni: Actually, it's not Ninjas v. Pirates! Its Pirates Vs. Ninjas. Sorry, I hat to do it... :)

Other than that, and on-topic, I don't think I'll get it for either console.

Sotiris

@JuiceKup: Never seen anyone having such a good time with himself.

Nothing can top SuperDodge Ball... NOTHING.

corronchilejano

I personally still don't get how anyone thinks that Ninjas v. Pirates is a fair fight. Might as well name the thing 'Alligators vs. Toddlers'.

dae_giovanni

@okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under):

Just a feeling. The game doesnt sound awesome in and of itself. Theyre trying to sell something using an outdated internet meme. That itself raises an eyebrow.

This isnt a new Superdodge Ball. Thats already been done.

Modus_Operandi

An XBLA game... coming to the Wii? Wow Wii (hehe), can you like, do something besides being a gamecube with gimmicks? I guess you do what sells, even if you're selling to dolts.

P.S. Does that mean we can get it the other way? Can we have Mario on XBLA? Or does it not work like that?

JuiceKup

I'd much rather just play the boat stage in castle crashers again. You get to fight Ninjas that just so happen to actually BE pirates as well. Its great.

Gray665

@Modus_Operandi: But we haven't played it yet :(

okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under)

Holy Argentinian-pirate-ninja-robot-zombie-monkey-samurais!

That's great news. :)

ThursdayNext

You know what Ive noticed with Gamecock games? ALot of hype and marketing but the actual game is average to subpar. I see the same thing happening here.

Modus_Operandi

Here's to hoping that this game is good and ends up on the PSN as well!

def PD

@okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under):

i am happy to see you care so much about gamecock

elsteveo

Ok, apologies to anyone I may have offended directing this at a game of pirates and ninjas... that rules. Don't get me wrong. But I'm just saying, that I wish Nintendo had some standards with their games. I mean, THEY HAVE NO STANDARDS. Look it up, there are qualifications for games to be put on Xbox and PS, but NOT NINTENDO. Which means that they can just use a steaming pile of old Ren & Stimpy game from the NES, slap a new cover on it, call it a Wii game, and charge $50 for it. Is that fair to the parents buying these games who don't know any better? The answer is no.

JuiceKup

Looks good.. but not good enough for me to pay more than 30 bucks :P

CockroachMan

@okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under):

Nope. I like sticking to my guts. Because my guts are alot closer to my wallet than anything else. Including my own head.

My guts say this game will be shit. And if its one thing my guts should know its shit.

Modus_Operandi

Ohohoho Internet humor, why didn't anyone make a game about this sooner... how about they just charge 30 bucks for a cool sounding game with awesome box art and when you put the disk in it just RickRolls you.

Crispy-Hypocrite

@denki: Yeah, you're right. It does make it that much more distasteful.

Gamecock is annoying as hell. Talk about low-hanging fruit here. They aren't funny, and they're not rock stars, so they should stop running around trying to be funny wearing stupid masks. Here's a really crazy idea - how about they produce a good game? I know, that's crazy talk, but it might help them, credibility-wise.

SpiralJacobs

LOL!! ARGENTINA! Now THAT would be awesome!!

lucasreis

@CockroachMan: Also, it's a lot cheaper to develop a Wii game than a PS3/360 game.. that's why those consoles have less shovelware..

CockroachMan

@JuiceKup: You know.. there's a lot of bad games on PS3 and 360 too.. actually, a lot of Wii shovelware are just PS2 ports. Those kind of stuff is going to the Wii not because Nintendo has no quality control, they're going there cause it's the best selling system and everyone wants to get something from that!

MS and Sony would certainly allow any current Wii game to be in their consoles if the game publisher wanted that :P

CockroachMan

@JuiceKup:

The key sentence in that post is "Is that fair to the parents buying these games who don't know any better?". If they dont know any better than its their fault, not Nintendo's. There are plenty of good games for the Wii. There's also crap. That goes for every other form of media in the universe. If you dont want to be disapointed you become a smart shopper.

Modus_Operandi

....and I read this as I pack for my ten-month trip to Argentina for which I leave on Tuesday.

Is Kotaku stalking me?

Ping

The Wii manages to make everything look terrible I still have not seen a good looking screen shot for any Wii game

Murderdolls

@okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under):

Watch out, this board will eat you and your logic alive. I totally agree with you, though.

That game looks good! Buying day one for me.

SinisterUrge13

@Murderdolls:

^Has not played Super Mario Galaxy or Super Smash

Modus_Operandi

@Murderdolls: funny. all ps3 games looks terrible to me too.

i guess we all got a personal taste hen it comes to games graphics and consoles.

funny huh?

Onizuka-GTO

@Murderdolls:

Ok lol...

Well, are these screenshots really the wii game, I must say it looks really neat. Sure there's some pixels on models, but the style looks very good, and hell, Super Dodge Ball for NES was a kickass game, this can't be that bad!

GodKiller0

@Murderdolls: Go play Super Mario Galaxy and tell me that looks terrible.

Eviscerate

@Murderdolls: It must be sad to be completely unable to play the classics, what with your judgment being based on graphical quality.

adocious

Damn, I thought this was going to be on Wiiware. I know I won't pay $50 for it, I rarely pay $50 for even the best games and prefer to wait.

Unless this will maybe be a budget game? $30 with tons more content and maybe I'll buy.

Naturestee

@adocious: Agreed!

lucasreis

Yaaay! Gamecock! What quality game shall these chappies come up with ne- Oh wait. I lied. I haven't liked Gamecock since they decided to be publicity tramps by holding E3 "Funerals" and rushing the stage in the Spike VG Awards while the director of Bioshock was trying to deliver a speech.

Clownshoes.

Nanaue

Seriously, who in their right mind would name a company "Gamecock"? Hey, want some gamecock bitch? (yes, I'm immature, but still..)

voidmind

Wait, didn't this already come out on Live. I just remember in my haze of hard drugs and fast women seeing this game announced for Live months and months ago.

maniacmayhem

Pirates vs Ninjas? YAY!
Dodgeball? Meh.

Call me when they do something like Ninja Gaiden 2 or Madworld with pirates vs ninjas.

Bokusatsu_Tenshi

Dodgeball with monkeys and Argentina?
That could get Messi...

XbhaskarX

they should just call it meme ball

sharkilepsy

It looks like something you would download for free. Plus the fact everyone knows Ninjas are way better then pirates!

Myumi

Pirates, Ninjas and Dodgeball... it's a played-out cliche extravaganza! Why didn't they just call it "Really?!! Really!?" or "I Just Threw up in my Mouth"? Those were also big hits a couple of years ago.

YanniEliphino

I assure you the game is NOT going to cost $50.

To all you haters out there:

Please, at least, give the game a chance before casting it into the depths of Hades. I'm most definitely biased but I do think the game is a really fun party game for XBLA (and now for Wii). And if you hate Pirates and/or Ninjas you can always choose Zombies, Robots, and... (yes there are quite a few teams left that have gone unannounced.

Christopher Stockman
Studio Director
Blazing Lizard, Inc.

BlazingStocks