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Rockstar Rumour Round-Up: Max Payne 3, New PS3 Exclusive
Posted by Luke Plunkett at 2:30 PM on August 27, 2008
New month, new issue of EGM, new round of Quartermann rumours. This time around, the two juiciest involve Rockstar. First up, that they've got an internal team working on Max Payne 3, what with original devs Remedy taking their sweet time on Alan Wake. That Rockstar team is the same one that worked on The Warriors. And second up, that Rockstar North - the GTA team - are working on an all-new game. One that's a PS3 exclusive. Of course these are totally unsubstantiated, so do with them what you do with any rumour you come along on the internet, and believe it/dismiss it as you see fit.
Quartermann: Max Payne 3 and New PS3 Exclusive Coming From Rockstar? [1UP]

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Ivan_PSP
Posted August 27, 2008 5:49 PM
The PS3 has been out selling Xbox 360 since January and Microsoft had 1 year head start. All PS3 exclusives have done great. Xbox 360 is behind especially in games and in exclusives also Xbox 360 still has a massive Red Light of Death problems.
lonesn1per
Posted 3:18 PM 27/8/08
YO GUYS......WE READ INTO THIS WRONG....
in the article it doesnt say anything about max payne 3 being exclusive, just that there is a ps3 exclusive game being developed along with mp3....
LULZ to all of us for fighting.
lonesn1per
Shijirou
Posted 3:17 PM 27/8/08
@xCruciaLx: I don't think so. Didn't Squeenix made it clear that they'd finish the PS3 version first before they did the 360 version?
Shijirou
Stavren
Posted 3:16 PM 27/8/08
@lonesn1per: Apparently I'm an Xbox fan? Apparently?
@Deus_EpS: I never mentioned it being specifically about PS3 fanboys. People who think exclusives are great bug me in general.@lonesn1per: Very, very, very few games released exclusively for the PS3 couldn't fit on a DVD or be easily compressed. Don't get me wrong, I think that if a game's technology is absolutely dependent on the PS3 that it should be developed for that console, but the consoles are comparable enough in their capabilities and games humble enough in their demands that very rarely does that need actually arise.
Stavren
DustySword
Posted 3:15 PM 27/8/08
@MitchCumstein-III:
I think you have it all wrong my friend, Max Payne 3 is not the exclusive. The exclusive PS3 game is something else. So, don't worry about not getting to play Max Payne 3 ;)
DustySword
MitchCumstein-III
Posted 3:14 PM 27/8/08
Wait, I read that wrong. I thought they was saying Max Payne 3 would be a PS3 exclusive. It actually says....wait, what is this saying? The actual link won't load for me.
MitchCumstein-III
JoRo1986
Posted 3:14 PM 27/8/08
I thought we've been hearing that Rockstar was already working on a PS3 exclusive? Isn't this an old rumor? Also, isn't La Noir multi-plat? Am I asking too many questions? Please enlighten me Kotaku commenters. :P
JoRo1986
lonesn1per
Posted 3:13 PM 27/8/08
@xCruciaLx:
this is where the bluray excels, also maybe just maybe the developer's priority isnt the money?
i.e certain low budget blockbuster hits.
maybe their goal is to finish the max payne lineage and go out with a bang! (pun intendid)
and the only way to really go all out they need the bluray capacity.
lonesn1per
xCruciaLx
Posted 3:09 PM 27/8/08
As for the game exclusives, Sqeenix will obviously hold back on FFXIII since they said both PS3 and 360 will be the same.
But on Versus it will be much better since there's nothing that holds them back.
xCruciaLx
dmcshinobi
Posted 3:07 PM 27/8/08
@everybest: genius
dmcshinobi
lonesn1per
Posted 3:07 PM 27/8/08
i also hope they dont "sandbox" the game, if anthing a little is ok but its a action script based 3rd person bullet ballet bonanza, so lots and lots of overexaggerated particle effects please!
lonesn1per
MitchCumstein-III
Posted 3:07 PM 27/8/08
Not to be a negative Nancy, but would an EA acquisition of T2 change some things? Like promises of a new PS3 exclusive?
As an owner of all 3 consoles I want exclusives out the ying yang, but it just doesn't make much financial sense to make Max Payne exclusive. Hopefully I am wrong, but in the mean time I will pretend I didn't hear this rumor.
MitchCumstein-III
goldwings
Posted 3:05 PM 27/8/08
@BelmontHeir: I agree. I've got to play Mass Effect a couple of times on the PC and I find myself wanting my old Xbox 360 just for Tales of Vesperia and Fable 2, but LBP, Resistance and Killzone 2 makes me a little happier. Trust me, the first time I got my PS3, I wasn't too thrilled :/
goldwings
everybest
Posted 3:03 PM 27/8/08
Hopefully the PS3 exclusive is nothing like GTA. It'll be interesting to see what they come up with as a new IP.
@aphex_twin: It's a post about MP3 and a PS3 exclusive. So much hate; you can't really be this angry at one console and expect not to look like a "braindead fanboy" yourself. Chill out, there really hasn't been much trolling in this post until you showed up.
everybest
lonesn1per
Posted 2:58 PM 27/8/08
@BelmontHeir:
thank you! a smart gamer/kotaku commenter.
dont forget killzone2, although they need to put more detail in the way someone shoots a rpg, it doesnt "streak" like in cod4.
im curious to see what games will be out in 2 years....
lonesn1per
BelmontHeir
Posted 2:57 PM 27/8/08
Sorry, I meant it's NOT financially feasible for me to own both consoles. I wish I was that rolling in the Benjamin's ;)
BelmontHeir
dmcshinobi
Posted 2:57 PM 27/8/08
I will follow Rockstar to the grave.....and Valve.
dmcshinobi
BelmontHeir
Posted 2:57 PM 27/8/08
I think Activision owns Gun; Rockstar's Wild West shooter is Red Dead Revolver.
BelmontHeir
BelmontHeir
Posted 2:55 PM 27/8/08
As a PS3 owner, I'm more than willing to admit that there are many 360 exclusives that I'd love to play - like Mass Effect and Tales of Vesperia. Since it's financially feasible for me to own both consoles, how do I cope? I look for PS3-exclusives to soften the blow and make me feel like I made a worthwhile investment. That's why I'm anticipating playing Resistance 2 and Little Big Planet this fall.
BelmontHeir
lonesn1per
Posted 2:55 PM 27/8/08
they should emphasize the spinning reload feature in this one, i didnt see it too much in mp2. And i hope they introduce something new, bullet time has gotten sooooo old.
lonesn1per
VeganTnT
Posted 2:53 PM 27/8/08
@Deus_EpS:
I remember it too. Something about Sony not willing to pay millions upon millions for DLC and ended up buying exclusivity on Rockstar's next game.
Ign has also had "Rockstar ps3 exclusive project [untitled] - TBA 2009" in their Release Dates section.
Also, L.A. Noire, Midnight Club, and "Rockstar Old West Ps3 Project [untitled] - TBA 2009" which is most likely Gun 2. In the release dates as well so we can assume that the exclusive isn't any of those.
VeganTnT
lonesn1per
Posted 2:52 PM 27/8/08
sorry i just cant stand reading something about a new concept for a game and someone *cough starven* *cough cough* *fart*
complain that its an exclusive or at least rumored...
lonesn1per
Composition94
Posted 2:51 PM 27/8/08
@Deus_EpS: Yeah, suddenly there's an un-natural amount of nerd RAAAAAAGE!
Composition94
lonesn1per
Posted 2:50 PM 27/8/08
@aphex_twin:
fagged up? nice.....speaks for itself
lonesn1per
lonesn1per
Posted 2:50 PM 27/8/08
just sayin.....way to represent the other side starven.....
your as typical as they come....
lonesn1per
aphex_twin
Posted 2:48 PM 27/8/08
It's sad to see an article about Max Payne 3 being fagged up by these braindead PS3 fanboys. Anyway, I hope they bring in the same writer from the first two MP games to do the storyline, and they better get the same voice actor to play Max Payne himself also. I'll boycott it if they use Mark Wahlberg's appearance or voice.
aphex_twin
lonesn1per
Posted 2:48 PM 27/8/08
i hope they DONT bring back those stupid nightmare levels.....and leave out the RUN AWAY FROM THE FIRE levels as well.....
lonesn1per
PsycheE
Posted 2:48 PM 27/8/08
REMEDY, get that shit crackin'. We all know Alan Wake is just another expensive benchmarking app.
PsycheE
Sex_For_Pandas
Posted 2:48 PM 27/8/08
@Stavren:
No. We want to REALLY see what the Playstation3 can really do with all that potential it has mentioned over and over again. Exclusives don't have to rely on the shortcomings of other consoles and can take advantage of the supposed benefits that one system has to offer if done right.
Some can't afford more than one console and would like to see the ps3 really flouish and finally live up to atleast some of the hype.
Sex_For_Pandas
Deus_EpS
Posted 2:47 PM 27/8/08
...and suddenly, Kotaku turns into /v/ on 4chan...
WTF is happening?
Deus_EpS
OW_Angel
Posted 2:47 PM 27/8/08
So "Max Payne's journey into the night will continue." rings true.
OW_Angel
lonesn1per
Posted 2:46 PM 27/8/08
starven did david perry and ms pay you to troll? come on tell us its ok we are the internets...
lonesn1per
Emiat
Posted 2:45 PM 27/8/08
@gold5225: Talk about acting like a bad winner.
I wonder if this "rumoured" (not confirmed) PS3 exclusive will be actually good enough to give the PS3 another boost in sales since so far I see no games I really must play that convinces me to buy a PS3.
Emiat
lonesn1per
Posted 2:44 PM 27/8/08
@Stavren:
if you really call bluray capacity compared to dldvd9 capacity beneficial....
lonesn1per
Deus_EpS
Posted 2:42 PM 27/8/08
@Stavren: You can argue the same thing about MS fanboys, FYI.
As for this PS3 exclusive Rockstar game, didnt we hear about this last year as well? I sure as hell remember it.
Deus_EpS
goldwings
Posted 2:42 PM 27/8/08
Exclusive -> (Mostly) DEAD
Unless of course it's from 1st party.
@Stavren: Its called being a fanboy. The cows find themselves going back and forth with the Xbots and really, this is a Never-going-to-end kind of thing
goldwings
Xemnas
Posted 2:42 PM 27/8/08
@Stavren:
PS3 exclusives are great. It means that the developers aren't held back by the 360's limitations.
Xemnas
uppitycracker
Posted 2:42 PM 27/8/08
@Stavren: they need all the help they can get to justify the purchase, i suppose.
uppitycracker
lonesn1per
Posted 2:42 PM 27/8/08
@Stavren:
and why are you getting all butthurt about it?
xbox fans are the single most annoying thing i have ever encountered.....they take things so seriously, like you right now, i cant stand to play halo 3 either. Its a good game but the fans kill it especially online.
lonesn1per
bysty
Posted 2:41 PM 27/8/08
Duuuuuuude. I never played Max Payne 2, but I would LOVE a new game.
bysty
jfm3
Posted 2:40 PM 27/8/08
@Stavren: Well, we did take quite a pissing for FFXIII...
jfm3
Xemnas
Posted 2:39 PM 27/8/08
I hope it's true! Man, I'm already excited!
Xemnas
Stavren
Posted 2:39 PM 27/8/08
@BelmontHeir: Why do PS3 owners need a tonne of exclusives? It's inarguably mutually beneficial for more non-exclusive titles to be released for the PS3 and 360. What is it, you want to be able to hop up and down in front of 360 owners and brag about how you've got better games?
Stavren
Mit
Posted 2:38 PM 27/8/08
@kylo4: Read that over one more time. The Q-man says Remedy isn't working on it, so cross them fingers.
Mit
danterandal19
Posted 2:38 PM 27/8/08
@BelmontHeir:
Totally agree with you; if it wasn't for Marky Mark, we wouldn't be seeing another Max Payne game, since the last game (even though it's one of my favorite games of all time) didn't sell so hot. I still tear up when I see copies of Max Payne 2 at the Gamestop bargain bin.
danterandal19
TheHeeyyy
Posted 2:38 PM 27/8/08
@2SBs:
LA Noire is being developed by Team Bondi, not Rockstar North.
TheHeeyyy
gold5225
Posted 2:38 PM 27/8/08
Yes a PS3 exclusive developed by rockstar north we dont care about your stupid DLC 360 boy we got a whole exclusive game WooT!
gold5225
Tendrin
Posted 2:37 PM 27/8/08
Max Payne 3 by the Warriors team? SOLD! I loved Max Payne and Max Payne 2 -- if only the second game had been longer. I wonder what they're going to do with the two endings to MP 2, though? A Max Payne game without Mona Sax...
Tendrin
lonesn1per
Posted 2:37 PM 27/8/08
omg finally we can see what happends to max at the end of part 2!
please please please please make it exclusive and please make it 20 times better than stranglehold which was a max payne anyways with chow yun fat's face.....which was also the inspiration for max payne..... hahah when will this vicious cycle end?
but seriously make it 20 times better than stranglehold.....or else i will rick roll you like never before!
lonesn1per
kylo4
Posted 2:36 PM 27/8/08
If they make a Max Payne 3, that will amaze me. One of, if not my favorite series by my favorite game developer, simply awesome news.
kylo4
TheHeeyyy
Posted 2:36 PM 27/8/08
That PS3 exclusive sounds like the one Jack Tretton has mentioned in the past. If it really is being developed by Rockstar North I have high hopes for the game.
TheHeeyyy
okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under)
Posted 2:35 PM 27/8/08
@BelmontHeir: I have to say... I'm against the idea. It's bad... bad I say!
okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under)
2SBs
Posted 2:35 PM 27/8/08
Could PS3 exclusive be LA Noir perhaps?
2SBs
BelmontHeir
Posted 2:34 PM 27/8/08
Not to sound like a fanboy, but...we PS3 owners need all the exclusives we can get right now, so I welcome this.
It seems like Max Payne 3 is in good hands, since I've heard a lot of good things about The Warriors game. But would there even be a MP3 in development if the franchise didn't have a forthcoming movie? I can't recall too many people clamoring for a Max Payne 3. Maybe I'm wrong, though, and the series has a massive fanbase.
BelmontHeir
Jackel2072
Posted 3:42 PM 27/8/08
Well it was E3 06 or 07 that Sony said they have a exclusive game from Rockstar coming so i say this rumor carry's water.
Jackel2072
wicko
Posted 3:42 PM 27/8/08
@giroml: Except no 360 owner would be willing to accept that fact, being as they are all programmers and know what they're talking about.
wicko
wicko
Posted 3:41 PM 27/8/08
@VladMalice: It says Rumour Roundup, meaning MP3 (lol) and PS3 exclusive are 2 different things.
wicko
giroml
Posted 3:40 PM 27/8/08
Pretty happy about this, PS3 has the power to run a graphically incredible game were it not always held back by the lowest common denominator development that always has to take the lesser powerful XBox360 into account. I am sure Xbox360 owners would agree, I doubt they would want a Wii game dumbed down for their 360 in comparison.
giroml
Deus_EpS
Posted 3:39 PM 27/8/08
@sixonedoesitall: tch
The days where people could cry 'NO GAMES' at the PS3 are over. Similarly, this stigma too is coming to an end since the PS3 has a nice install base where if a publisher goes for PS3 exclusivity, they will sure as hell make plenty of profit. Of course the fact that this generation has thus far been the death of the exclusive game (for the most part), i dont think publishers will want to keep to one console especially when the other console has 2 or 3 times the userbase. I can see Sony's drive for securing developers rather than publishers and it makes sense.
But of course this is something that can easily be negated by two things as MS has shown very nicely....
1) more consoles (11 million install base) means they can weedle the publisher into not giving a damn about the other platform (at this point Wii doesnt count, seriously). Which is why i will probably grab the $200 Arcade 360 for some of the exclusive 360 games. See how well this will play into Microsoft's strategy?
2) cold hard cash for exclusivity, or compensation, or support, or publishing the game a third-part dev makes.
Id add more but i forgot where i was headed with this loooong ago.
Deus_EpS
lonesn1per
Posted 3:37 PM 27/8/08
@VladMalice:
dont read what kotaku wrote instead click the link it says max payne 3 being developed ALONG with a ps3 exclusive title....
lonesn1per
VladMalice
Posted 3:36 PM 27/8/08
Exclusive on the PS3?
Negative.
It WONT happen like that. Sure, it will be exclusive until about 5 months before its launch then it will go to 360 as well then the game will get pushed back 2 months.
Mark my words.
VladMalice
lonesn1per
Posted 3:36 PM 27/8/08
make max payne more violent!
lonesn1per
dead_red_eyes
Posted 3:35 PM 27/8/08
Maybe the PS3 exclusive is LA Noir? Then again, I thought that they announced that it will be on both the 360 and PS3.
If they're really working on Max Payne 3, they better not fuck it up!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's one of my all time favorite series.
dead_red_eyes
lonesn1per
Posted 3:34 PM 27/8/08
@Stavren:
agreed!
lonesn1per
TheCleaningGuy
Posted 3:33 PM 27/8/08
Please let the PS3 exclusive be Red Dead Revolver 2! RDR was an absolutely brilliant piece of gaming, unfortunately ingnored by many.
TheCleaningGuy
lonesn1per
Posted 3:32 PM 27/8/08
lets just hope remedy gives new ips rather than JUST sequals....alan wake is a good concept but honestly its taking too long to develop....and these "new ips' better not be remakes of anything.
lets see something new remedy! something refreshing!
lonesn1per
Stavren
Posted 3:28 PM 27/8/08
@lonesn1per: Post thoughtful stuff and I will pour on the love, sir.
Stavren
Indy_aka_Rex
Posted 3:28 PM 27/8/08
@sixonedoesitall:
GTA4, COD4, MGS4, Resistance, Assassin's Creed, Pro-Evo, FIFA 08, etc. all say 'hi'.
The whole "PS3 software sales" crack is bullshit. It didn't stop COD4 from selling a good 2-3 million on PS3, likewise for GTA4, and MGS4.
Indy_aka_Rex
lonesn1per
Posted 3:28 PM 27/8/08
@devilmaycry2020:
hahahah thats like pocket change to ms!
lol
lonesn1per
devilmaycry2020
Posted 3:26 PM 27/8/08
now just wait for MS to win the immersion case in the cheque will be in the mail to Rockstar!
devilmaycry2020
lonesn1per
Posted 3:26 PM 27/8/08
@Stavren:
hahaha attitude took like a 180 turn from the one a minute ago....lulz
lonesn1per
lonesn1per
Posted 3:24 PM 27/8/08
@Deus_EpS:
oh yeah i remember that....maybe....because we didnt hear from it at e3 tgs or gc, maybe it did. i guess remedy took on more than they could handle
lonesn1per
Stavren
Posted 3:24 PM 27/8/08
@lonesn1per: In the coming years we will almost certainly begin to see the gap widen, I agree. For now, though, there's very rarely a good reason not to go multi-platform other than first-party funding.
Stavren
Deus_EpS
Posted 3:23 PM 27/8/08
@Deus_EpS: ...and forgot to add...that, hell, making the PS3 the lead platform may help the 360 version look better as many developers are saying that helps.
Deus_EpS
Stavren
Posted 3:23 PM 27/8/08
@lonesn1per: Or maybe I just love video games? Have you considered that maybe we don't have to have a particular allegiance towards a brand or console, and that that in fact is a primary cause of cultural and intellectual stagnation?
I just love it when somebody sees someone offer a dry, sarcastic rebuttal and immediately accuses that person of being gravely serious about an issue.
I also love it when you're discussing something that applies to all consoles and use one console as an example, and instantly people assume you must be trying to tout one platform above the rest.
Stavren
Deus_EpS
Posted 3:22 PM 27/8/08
Wasnt La Noir in that list of games a new Sony head cancelled a couple months back?
Deus_EpS
lonesn1per
Posted 3:21 PM 27/8/08
@Stavren:
i guess we'll have to see in about 2 years or so since most games have very little difference to them, i guess its the way the developers make them. example DMC3 cant even tell the difference, the only way we might be able to tell is final fantasy 13 and versus. if both consoles rival each other in the graphic department then this is the determining game, since one is exclusive and one is multiplat.
lonesn1per
MitchCumstein-III
Posted 3:20 PM 27/8/08
@DustySword: lol, I wasn't the only one that did that.
MitchCumstein-III
speedofsloth
Posted 3:19 PM 27/8/08
la noir was according to some website i saw originally a ps3 exclusive announced by sony but checking their site now says something along the lines of next gen consoles which is most likely both systems. the ps3 exclusive is hard fact tho, you can find it in the official playstation blog from about a year back.
speedofsloth
lonesn1per
Posted 3:18 PM 27/8/08
@Stavren:
your guess is as good as mines.
maybe a wii fan i dont know....
lonesn1per
Deus_EpS
Posted 3:18 PM 27/8/08
@xCruciaLx: I dont think SE will water-down the PS3 version, or hold it back so as to make sure the 360 version will look the same since the game started out as a PS3 game. This multi-plat move is something new and the fact that porting hasnt even started (theyre too busy finishing it for Japan on the PS3) confirms that. If anything, the 360 version may look a bit shabbier (which i doubt, these games always look the same these days).
Deus_EpS
MitchCumstein-III
Posted 3:18 PM 27/8/08
@xCruciaLx: Jesus, here we go again. How long has FFXIII been in production? How long....never mind, it's not worth it.
MitchCumstein-III
WilburHorse
Posted 3:11 PM 27/8/08
Hmm Max Payne 3... never played the 1st 2 so I have no reaction to this. As for the PS3 exclusive, at first I was like "yay" but then I realized that EA will buy T2 very soon and I don't think EA takes too kindly to platform exclusive titles (meaning PS3/360, not PC or Wii) Hopefully it stays though
WilburHorse
ZeroInsanity
Posted 2:36 PM 27/8/08
They finally announced it, maybe I should get a PS3 this Christmas.
ZeroInsanity
sixonedoesitall
Posted 2:32 PM 27/8/08
Based upon PS3 software sales, developing an exclusive for the console might seem like a really, really bad idea.
sixonedoesitall
MitchCumstein-III
Posted 4:03 PM 27/8/08
@wicko: And you are a programmer yourself I guess since you know they are wrong?
MitchCumstein-III
DoubleV
Posted 4:02 PM 27/8/08
so much tension...better break it off.
Max Payne 3 for the Wii instead confirm!
DoubleV
Metal_Slug_Solid
Posted 4:00 PM 27/8/08
Max Payne 3? I wonder what his face will look like this time 'round. Maybe it'll be based on Mark Wahlberg.
Metal_Slug_Solid
Campion of Drymouth
Posted 3:59 PM 27/8/08
@dmcshinobi: Seconded.
Campion of Drymouth
Moar_pr0nz
Posted 3:56 PM 27/8/08
A 3rd party ps3 exclusive, especially a new IP, is a huge mistake when u compare 3rd party sales on the 360 to the ps3. MGS 4 is the only exception for it had hype before it was even announced. If anything, more developers would be inclined to have it 360 exclusive. @
href="#c7446092">Xemnas
:Wow, ps3 held back by 360...ha! Because the 360 is the one with the inferior GPU, less memory, and a lower bandwidth, right? GJ on knowing ur tech...
Moar_pr0nz
CitizenInsane27
Posted 3:54 PM 27/8/08
@CitizenInsane27: Here we go....a flashback...
[blog.us.playstation.com]
CitizenInsane27
lonesn1per
Posted 3:54 PM 27/8/08
@spiderweb1986:
the controller scheme wasnt that bad, i played all of them through on the hardest mode. Although i have to admit it kicked my butt when i was out of life and only had very little bulletime left, but i beat them.
k/m combo works awesome but as far as i know ps3 and 360 (i think) have that support. its up to the developers to implement it. also i LOVED the matrix mod in the pc version to max payne and the ever so popular KUNG FU MOD! maybe they can put the kung fu mod in MP3?
lonesn1per
CitizenInsane27
Posted 3:53 PM 27/8/08
Hmmmm....well it's a rumor for now.
BUT Rockstar did say a while back they made a deal with Sony for some exclusive titles (this came post GTAIV 360 announcement) and IMO I think it may be the new Red Dead Revolver or some other random Rockstar title. People here are speculating that it will be LA Noire, but I have to disagree, especially if the exclusive title is being developed by R* North, because LA Noire isn't being developed by them.
CitizenInsane27
TheIrishNinja
Posted 3:46 PM 27/8/08
@Deus_EpS: i dont konw. the worst of the trolls come out; xbox fans eager to justify waiting on buying a ps3 (if at all) and knee-jerk sony fans eager to again dickwave after FF XIII went multi-plat. the MGS4 thread recnetly brought them out too; i keep thinking kotaku's baiting them into a hammering.
@VladMalice: WORDS MARKED.
everyone's an industry insider today, yay!!
@TheCleaningGuy: aw, shit yeah, id so love to see another RDR!
@aphex_twin: that's ironic; im boycotting your posts.
TheIrishNinja
Muisee
Posted 3:46 PM 27/8/08
If the exclusive looks decent I may have to get a PS3. Socom, MGS4, R* exclusive, seems compelling enough to me.
Muisee
Brain_Craters
Posted 3:45 PM 27/8/08
I'll bet they're referring to Rockstar's film noir game set during the 1940s (whatever happened to that?) that was announced a PS3 exclusive. Of course, that project's not exactly 'all-new', but is it really feasible that Sony would be able to get exclusivity for not one, but TWO R* games? If dlc sets you back 50 mil, how much do two full games cost? Even if this rumor is true, I'd have to think 'timed exclusive' at best, unless Sony's really ready to throw on the warpaint.
Brain_Craters
spiderweb1986
Posted 3:44 PM 27/8/08
Given how the console ports of Max Payne 2 controlled, I'm really hoping that Max Payne 3 isn't the exclusive. With a mouse and keyboard, I can actually beat the game, instead of getting my ass kicked by it.
spiderweb1986
cornerman8
Posted 3:43 PM 27/8/08
@BelmontHeir
I'm a PS3 owner and fan (not fanboy, you can like/prefer something without being illogical or ridiculous). Your honesty is refreshing. While I'm not interested in Mass Effect or Tales of Vesparia, I will be playing Gears 2 and Castle Crashers.
My theory for fanboyism is that each company has a gaming philosophy (possibly due to the cultures they originate from) and gamers, based off their history with the brand, align themselves with that philosophy. The promise of that philosophy being played out is what allows them to cling to potential. They want to feel ensured that there will always be a strong place for that gaming view. Thusly you get folks gloating of sales, arguing over features, and overlooking titles that they might very well like. It happens on both sides. If Epic was making Gears on the PS3 it'll sell well over a million. If Killzone or Resistance 2 magically made their way onto the 360, they'd sell well over a million. Is a 360 gamer and PS3 gamer really all that different? Are we inherently incapable of liking the other's games simply because we know its not coming to ours? We are indeed different as individuals, but as a whole we are the same. We have different levels of awareness. If 360 gamers played Shadows of the Colossus or God of War, they'd likely like it like Sony fans do. I hate Halo, but I've got to believe there are millions of PS3 owners who'd play it and LIKE it. Its likely I'll always be partial to Sony cause I agree with their gaming philosophy (that being variety and innovation). They've got me this generation because they've got the most exclusives, in my opinion the most potential, and the best value for the money. But you won't hear me whining cause an Xbox owner got to share in some multiplatform fun. Heck the Wii is completely useless to me, but I wouldn't mind having MadWorld.
cornerman8
rasutoibuki
Posted 3:43 PM 27/8/08
@Stavren:
Here's a reason why both the X-Box 360 and PS3 need exclusives: Competition.
Microsoft scores a few exclusives that look really appealing, they get more customers. Sony sees this and makes deals with Game Devs so they get appealing games as well. Devs get more money to make better games and have to break the Madden trend, by creating new games with higher production values.
This in turn helps fund the next generation of consoles, which come out with new features and better production values than their previous counterparts.
Every system gets the same games, only one console is needed. Innovation stops. Pretty soon we're stuck with one console. Don't like the features of that console? Well, too bad, because it's the only one.
rasutoibuki
dagreatest
Posted 4:30 PM 27/8/08
@zaagis:
You act like Microsoft is dominating the market right now. Here's a fact for you:
The PS3 (a console that came out a year after the 360) has already outsold the 360 in Europe. In the Asian market (specifically in Japan) Sony can stop selling games and it will still sell more PS3 than MS will sell 360s. that leaves North America. Even here, in 2008, the PS3 outsold the 360 on a month-to-month basis. and even in terms of total units sold, Sony is catching up very fast.
oh and not EVERY SINGLE 360 owner is going to but that game so it's impossible to lose 6 million users. especially when 3rd party games are doing well on the PS3 (MGS4 has sold almost 4 million copies in 2 months)
your knowledge about the videogame market is stuck in 2006. I suggest you do some more research before making ignorant statements lie that.
dagreatest
zaagis
Posted 4:23 PM 27/8/08
Good job losing +6million copies sold on your exclusive game, rockstar
zaagis
dagreatest
Posted 4:23 PM 27/8/08
Moar_pr0nz: "A 3rd party ps3 exclusive, especially a new IP, is a huge mistake when u compare 3rd party sales on the 360 to the ps3. MGS 4 is the only exception for it had hype before it was even announced. If anything, more developers would be inclined to have it 360 exclusive."
wow...that has to be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.
When Microsoft launched the original XBox, Sony was pretty much dominating the whole market with almost no competition but that didn't stop developers from making exclusive deals with M$ (Dead or Alive, Halo, Ninja Gaiden, KOTOR, FABLE, RIDDICK, etc.). By your logic, Developers should have just abandoned the xbox and made games exclusively for the PS2 but that's not how it turned out.
Moar_pr0nz: "Wow, ps3 held back by 360...ha! Because the 360 is the one with the inferior GPU, less memory, and a lower bandwidth, right? GJ on knowing ur tech..."
again...that's a very dumb statement. I'm not gonna waste my time arguing with you about which console is technically superior. They both have their strengths and weaknesses. I suggest you look up John Carmack's interview on why the PS3 has the upper-hand on the 360.
dagreatest
Nirolak
Posted 4:21 PM 27/8/08
Ah yes, the Quarterman. If this guy was reliable we'd be sitting with Tactics Ogre 3, a new Skies of Arcadia, and a new Super Mario RPG right now. Since none of those happened, I'll remain hesitant on any of these as well.
Nirolak
aphex_twin
Posted 4:14 PM 27/8/08
@rasutoibuki: "Every system gets the same games, only one console is needed. Innovation stops. Pretty soon we're stuck with one console. Don't like the features of that console? Well, too bad, because it's the only one."
This is a terrible argument. Innovation in games is driven by competition between software, not hardware. Publishers compete with each other for the consumer's dollar, not with hardware manufacturers. A single dominant console would be the best thing that ever happened to video gaming; development time and cost would decrease because resources would be devoted to development on a single platform rather than several, so games would come out sooner, would be less expensive, and everybody would get to play them (provided they own the system) rather than just the people who decided to pick one console over another. Best of all, dick-waving system fanboys would no longer clutter up comment sections and forums across the Internet with their petty, insecure pot-shots at owners of the "other" system.
aphex_twin
Tyrannical
Posted 4:54 PM 27/8/08
Fat chance of it being exclusive, unless it's another stinker like Haze.
Tyrannical
Arnold Rimmer's Garden Strimmer
Posted 4:43 PM 27/8/08
@TheCleaningGuy: Agreed, I would wee a little inside if it was. :D
Arnold Rimmer's Garden Strimmer
MitchCumstein-III
Posted 4:33 PM 27/8/08
I just wish they would give us an idea of what they've got cookin' and when it's being served.
MitchCumstein-III
HikariOblivion
Posted 5:11 PM 27/8/08
Also, so many people need to get the hell out of 2006. The PS3 is a good system now, get the memo. XD
HikariOblivion
wicko
Posted 5:11 PM 27/8/08
@MitchCumstein-III: Yep, I am. I will admit, I haven't been able to code for either platform. Almost got my hands on a PS3 devkit, but then the company I was working for got denied by the publisher last minute, and I lost my job before I could even start it :) Even so, I did a bit of research about the hardware involved in both platforms, and if what I've read is true, then PS3 has the edge in terms of video processing power, and a huge edge in floating point processing power (which is debatable as to whether this is advantageous to gaming or not).
wicko
HikariOblivion
Posted 5:10 PM 27/8/08
@aphex_twin: And that one console would cost $2000 with $100 per year for online, since there's no competition to pricewar over. :) If you don't like it, tough, you're too poor to play games.
HikariOblivion
sixonedoesitall
Posted 5:40 PM 27/8/08
@Indy_aka_Rex: COD4 360 sold over 4x as many copies.
sixonedoesitall
yargh
Posted 5:37 PM 27/8/08
Is Remedy still alive? Alan Wake sure dropped off the friggen' planet. Is that blunder ever going to be released? I wish they were working on Max Payne 3.
yargh
bobtheduck
Posted 5:30 PM 27/8/08
@Tyrannical: Yeah, since that other big PS3 3rd party exclusive was a HUGE flop... What was it? MGS4? Something like that.
bobtheduck
uzivatel
Posted 5:29 PM 27/8/08
@zaagis: I would doubt that. The Max Payne franchise has only sold some 7 million copies on three platforms. I would expect new Max Payne game to sell more than its predecessors but not this more.
@dagreatest: Max Payne games were pretty popular on Xbox and PC (yeah, PC, maybe you heard about it). Many of its fans on these two platforms dont have PS3 and wont buy one any soon. These people would be lost sales, even if they buy the game later, they are likely to buy used copy or budget re-release.
PS3 may outsell Xbox 360 in Japan, but that does not mean it successful in that region. But it does not really matter, because no one expects Max Payne game to sell millions of copies in Japan...
uzivatel
rasutoibuki
Posted 5:23 PM 27/8/08
@aphex_twin:
Sure, we -might- see software innovate, maybe. Though with one console there would be no need for Nintendo, Sony, nor Microsoft to pay for any such development. Sorry new Developer with awesome idea, they don't have to cut into their profits to help you dev that awesome new game, they already got their console sold, it was the only one. Guess you'll have to sell out to a large company to get published.
@HikariOblivion:
Also quite true. Not only can they charge what they want, but they can stop caring about innovating their hardware as well. "Sure, we'd love to add these features you want, but, why? You're going to buy our console anyway."
I'll admit that my argument isn't perfect, there are still ways that innovation can creep in. Why though should we eliminate one of the major forms of innovation in the industry?
We should all be on the side of every system being good. That way we win as the corporations are forced to fight for your money. I promise, that's never a bad thing.
rasutoibuki
uzivatel
Posted 6:05 PM 27/8/08
@dagreatest: vgchartz is joke, not source, sorry.
If you really want to compare GTA games, how about the one that was released simultaneously on this generation HW?
uzivatel
CRUNK
Posted 6:01 PM 27/8/08
Also Max payne rules. But fuck Marky Mark the New Kid who wont play the games.
CRUNK
CRUNK
Posted 6:00 PM 27/8/08
I remember Rockstar stating that it worked out a deal for an exclusive PS3 title back when Xbox2 was working out the exclusive GTA4 content. I Read that on kotaku I think.
CRUNK
dagreatest
Posted 5:48 PM 27/8/08
@uzivatel:
Again...do some research before pulling facts out of your ass. Max Payne sold 3.19 million copies on the PS2 and 1.09 million copies on xbox (source: VGchartz.com)
same with GTA. On the PS2 it sold 17.3 million copies while on the xbox it sold 1.93
so in conclusion, you got owned
dagreatest
joeloliol
Posted 6:36 PM 27/8/08
man, the ps3 actually has a lot of great exclusives, but most of them are made by sony-owned companies at this point.
i would actually love to see what rockstar north could create, with a ps3 exclusive. they could take advantage of the huge space of a bluray disk, and not have to worry about making sure the game runs equally well on multiple platforms, which would be nice.
joeloliol
David Whitney
Posted 6:31 PM 27/8/08
I'm terrified of Max Payne not being developed by Remedy. MP1+2 are two of my favourite "pinacle of a genre" examples of gaming. Two perfect 8-10 hour shooters with decent enough fun stories. Stranglehold wishes it was that good.
That said, if I recall they were produced or released or overseen by Rockstar, so if they can pull a few strings and get a couple of the original staff (story / scenario design, a few artists etc) as team leads, I'm certain they could do a good job of it.
David Whitney
Mongoosekun
Posted 6:28 PM 27/8/08
@Stavren:
When Microsoft gets these companies to break contracts with SONY they often settle for another exclusive at a later date as part of the deal. Same thing happened with Final Fantasy Versus. This doesn't surprise anyone that has been paying attention to press releases. :D
Mongoosekun
DustySword
Posted 6:27 PM 27/8/08
@uzivatel:
Blargh! People, the exclusive Rockstar North game is NOT Max Payne! Read the article.
DustySword
dagreatest
Posted 6:26 PM 27/8/08
@uzivatel:
now now don't try to change the subject. you said:
"Max Payne games were pretty popular on Xbox and PC (yeah, PC, maybe you heard about it). Many of its fans on these two platforms dont have PS3 and wont buy one any soon."
and I pointed out that Max Payne sold 3.19 million copies on the PS2 and 1.09 million copies on xbox. Now you could say that vgchartz is a joke (I have no idea why you think so) but you don't have ANY proof that Max Paybe sold more copies on xbox.
Also, who told you that most Max Payne fans don't have a PS3? I'm a Max Payne fan and I own a PS3...so I don't know what your talking about. You have absolutely nothing to back up your claim.
My point here is that
dagreatest
uzivatel
Posted 6:48 PM 27/8/08
@DustySword: Its a good thing english is technically my 3rd language, I dont have to feel like an idiot in situations like this. Thanks for pointing out.
uzivatel
y2julio
Posted 6:45 PM 27/8/08
@lonesn1per: Like you aren't trolling as well with comments like that.
y2julio
Toker-Tom
Posted 6:43 PM 27/8/08
If Max Payne 3 is a reality I hope to god they don't use Whalbergs likeness.
Also, I think they should of chose Michael C. Hall to play the titular role because he has the voice, demonstrated excelently by internal dialoug in 'Dexter', and his face seems to convey more of a Payne feel.
Toker-Tom
uzivatel
Posted 6:43 PM 27/8/08
@dagreatest: You would say that guys at VGCharz are pulling numbers out of their asses.
I believe there was some article even here on Kotaku about the "accuracy" of their numbers.
I did not claim it in the first place :-)
uzivatel
DelSource
Posted 7:24 PM 27/8/08
@sixonedoesitall: Dude just give it up okay? The PS3 is selling more at this point of its life than was the 360 despite a higher price point and two levels of competition (plus constant bad press from some journalists and people like you). Were any game makers foolish for doing XBox exclusives in year two?
DelSource
get2sammyb
Posted 7:43 PM 27/8/08
@Stavren: I think the thing about PS3 gamers wanting exclusive games is NOT bragging rights -- more a thing of getting more from their console. Multiplatform usually start development on the 360 and sadly when they get ported over they are simply not making the most of the hardware.
Well I know that's why I look out for exclusives on PS3 anyway. Look at games like Killzone, Ratchet & Clank and MGS4. The difference is visible.
Of course gameplay makes the game but it's just a shame developers don't tend to use the PS3's extended power.
Then again I do keep hearing how hard it is to code for ;)
get2sammyb
Does Not Equal (ダズノット)
Posted 8:04 PM 27/8/08
First L.A. Noire and now another exclusive? I have two questions:
(1) Why the hell is Rockstar making system exclusives any more? I thought they'd abandoned that after breaking three GTA exclusives in the last generation.
(2) What sort of odds do we want to lay on Rockstar going ahead and breaking those down the road? They've set something of a precedent, with companies like Capcom and 2K Games doing the same this generation.
Does Not Equal (ダズノット)
xiked
Posted 8:32 PM 27/8/08
@sixonedoesitall:
games sell very well on PS3 so what are you talking about?
xiked
animexplorer
Posted 8:30 PM 27/8/08
i hope the game will never see light on 360. i own PS3/360 and i hate every single multiplatform game. multiplatform games should ONLY be rented or pirated.
animexplorer
OkayOctane
Posted 8:25 PM 27/8/08
@gold5225: Ahhh, rumours bring out the fanboy in us all..
A Max Payne 3 would be bloody brilliant. I thoroughly enjoyed the first two but always got the impression two was the last, don't know why.
And a PS3 exclusive, well if any of this comes to fruition I'll be missing out on a game, but Rockstar + Sony have always been chums so it's kind of expected.
OkayOctane
Thinker302
Posted 8:18 PM 27/8/08
In Max Payne 2 I thought the hardest ending (the one where Mona lives) brought good closure to the series in general so I actually haven't been holding my breath for a 3rd installment.
However, I welcome this new chapter with open arms as long as it's not a cash-in for whatever success the movie will receive.
Thinker302
resistance100
Posted 8:47 PM 27/8/08
Umm sony annouced a new exclusive R* franchise a long time ago
[blog.us.playstation.com]
resistance100
edhe (xbl)
Posted 9:57 PM 27/8/08
@Sex_For_Pandas: If these people who 'can't afford more than one console' bought a ps3 then should be smacked upside the head.
Sell the poorest gamesconsole of this generation and get the other two with the money recovered.
I wouldn't care if rockstar went ps3 native personally, after gta4 i'll skip anything they ever do again (aside from dlc for gta4, it's a good game, but nothing warrenting repeat purchases).
edhe (xbl)
pandafresh
Posted 10:06 PM 27/8/08
i loved the max payne series, although i thought the story in the 2nd game was awful. The Warriors was incredible though, and its a shame more people dont buy that one.
pandafresh
Frank
Posted 10:03 PM 27/8/08
Rockstar has not had an actual "exclusive" since Table Tennis, and even that ended up ported to the Wii. Their only technical "exclusives" are GTA: Advance and Chinatown Wars, mainly due to the systems they're developed for.
I'm thinking the PS3 exclusive could be more like a PS3-exclusive set of GTA IV DLC.
Frank
SaanZ
Posted 11:06 PM 27/8/08
Umm wasnt Noir the PS3 exclusive?
What happened to that?
SaanZ
zerokoolpsx
Posted 11:34 PM 27/8/08
Exclusive, developers still doing that? Join Capcom and everyone else, and go multi-platform.
zerokoolpsx
ca36gtp
Posted 11:30 PM 27/8/08
If I have to tightwalk across lines of blood again, someone at Rockstar's getting lynched.
ca36gtp
kenjara
Posted 11:20 PM 27/8/08
Was getting concerned about this being a 360 owner but if its max payne they can keep it. Max payne was the most overated generic shooter ever made.
kenjara
elsteveo
Posted 11:13 PM 27/8/08
i am sure that max payne 3 will be better then the "Exclusive" title
elsteveo
excaliburps
Posted 12:04 AM 28/8/08
Everytime there's a story concerning PS3/Xbox360 exclusives the shit hits the fan. What's up with that?
Anyway, slightly off-topic but does anyone know if Qman really is Shane from 1up?
excaliburps
acez2087
Posted 12:03 AM 28/8/08
It's about time we get a new Max Payne game in the works. I've been waiting for Rockstar to announce MP3, er-I mean Max Payne 3 ever since I busted through Max Payne 2 in less than 7 hours. Hell I'm surprised we're not getting a game based movie version of the upcoming Max Payne movie. Ya know kids, where you can play as Marky Mark and blast your way through levels muttering metaphoric catch phrases?
acez2087
tooji
Posted 12:27 AM 28/8/08
If true: I will buy a PS3
If false: I will continue to enjoy my xbox 360
tooji
mpar
Posted 2:05 AM 28/8/08
i don't care if its exclusive or not, I just want to play it
mpar
Daisuash
Posted 1:56 AM 28/8/08
I miss the days when a rumor about a game was taken with surprise and joy, instead of fanboyism and PS3 attacks...
Come on, when would you understand that all the consoles have something bad?? And that any of them is perfect? Just buy the three damn consoles and STFU...
Daisuash
lonesn1per
Posted 2:11 AM 28/8/08
@y2julio:
and your not?
lonesn1per
flukielukie
Posted 4:26 AM 28/8/08
I swear the team that worked on the last 2 Max Payne games are working on Alan Wake the 360/PC exclusive now.
Hopefully Rockstar do well with the game, I only own the 360 atm but I guess the PS3 could do with some exclusives.
flukielukie
CrashOverride777
Posted 5:19 AM 28/8/08
If they make Max Payne 3 a PS3 exclusive it would be like kicking their fans in the nuts that don't have that system.
CrashOverride777
TearsandScreams
Posted 5:14 AM 28/8/08
@BelmontHeir: There's me, I'm absolutely pleading for a Max Payne 3. I love that series in unhealthy amounts.
TearsandScreams
LeLoi
Posted 5:13 AM 28/8/08
@TheHeeyyy: You are absolutely right.
Back in E3 2007, Jack Tretton was interviewed. This is basically the gist of what was revealed:
GTA4 was originally a PS3 exclusive but Rockstar wanted to break their contract so that it can go on the 360 as well. Sony agreed but in return for breaking the contract, Rockstar was obligated to make 2 PS3 exclusives for Sony. One of them most likely being L.A Noire and the other being the aforementioned mystery game in this article.
LeLoi
Combichristoffersen
Posted 11:45 AM 28/8/08
@xCruciaLx:
Actually, IIRC SE said they couldn't promise that the 360 version would be as good as the PS3 version, or something like that.
@Moar_pr0nz:
The PS3 and the 360 have the same amount of RAM, only the 360 has it all in one memory bank whereas the PS3 has separate memory banks for the system RAM and the GPU RAM.
Combichristoffersen
Juststreet
Posted 7:17 AM 29/8/08
omg i love max payne simply the best game ever in terms of story line and just EVERYTHING. BRING MAX BACK
Juststreet