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spectralpulse

@bunch.of.wackos: [kotaku.com]

jamouq

I'm playing the beta pretty much every night, and I've preordered. I can't wait till September 18th to play with all of my friends.

jamouq

now all we need is tech specs, and money to match them

bunch.of.wackos

Can't wait for the reviews of this title.

Frologic

I think this game looks pretty promising, and I really hope it somehow does well enough to compete with WoW, but I also hope that they put the cities back in soon after launch, or it could get a little crowded and boring.

FreakyFavabean

Why dont they just have a yearly one. Makes stuff so much easier, I hate monthly payments.

tooji

I'm looking forward to this game. It plays a lot like WoW, but with a lot of the really annoying things taken out of it.

SirGeekelot

@Zsinj: I concur...

Norellicus

Aw man, that's even better than the Sept 23rd date you guys found earlier.

Sept 18th can't come soon enough! I'm picking it up day one.
The way I see it, since I was there for the AoC launch, I can handle another bad launch.

Except that with Mythic, they 1) seem to know what they are doing, 2) actually care about their game.

AoC is a fun game, but it's headed to the grave because FunCom niether knows what they are doing, nor care about their game. It's a tragedy, really. AoC had such tremendous potential.

But I digress. I'm ready for WAR!

Coquiton

I am so excited about this game that it's palpable. September 18th can't really come fast enough.

antialias02

Hey Mythic, I'm still waiting to use my "guaranteed" "open" "beta" "spot" key. I suppose that should be "key" too as it's just a string of characters. Hmm.

Zsinj

@spectralpulse: I agree completely.

It now smells much too fishy to gamble on. I hope it's good...but I'm not excited yet.

Stirdy

@spectralpulse:

Sure as hell wished I did that for Conan...

MiliardoK

I was hoping to get into the beta before launch so i can check it out before it launches. I didnt want to plop down the 50 bucks without knowing what i was getting first, cutting content to make a release date is a bad sign

spectralpulse

And now we wait for the 40k Online launch, which'll be awesome.

archibaldleech

Just tell me when the "Open-But-Not-Open" beta starts so I didn't preorder this for nothing.

StopTheOncoming

God am i so stoked about this game. Me and 2-3 of my mates are ready to play. Not only do i play the tabletop (Lizardmen FTW), but listening to all the mythic podcasts and listening to their vision it is hard to resist.

Kaosu

I really really want to play this game, but I've learned my lesson well from Vanguard and Age of Conan (thank god I didn't buy Vanguard). But I wasted $50 on AoC, I am not about to do the same. I really wish MMO's would launch with a trial or some sort.

macr0planet

omg ... stop the hype, this game is not ready

they almost replicated WoW, added some extra "cool" features

but playing the game isn't even fun, it doesn't offer any satisfaction at all

waza

@RYAMATSU: Anybody who enjoys Warhammer lore and is an MMO fan will probably get a kick out of the game.

antialias02

@spectralpulse:

Its not a bad sign.. its the way it work. You have no idea what kind of thing can be cut at the end of a production to get the release in time. Its like that for every production for every games

Systematix007

@jamouq: Question for you or anyone that has played the beta so far. I'm a huge fan of FFXI and still play regularly. I'm wanting to migrate to a new MMORPG but I didn't like WoW at all. Think it would be a good idea to play this?

I've always liked the Warhammer lore.

RYAMATSU

Also, considering DAoC, I have full faith that Mythic can bring a quality MMO to the table. While I never played DAoC I had friends that did, and they had nothing but positive things to say about its PvP/RvR. I'm beside myself in anticipation!

c0rnpwn

@Rubezh: The content cut probably isn't going to be as huge of a deal as some people have been led to believe. And it's not so much of an outright cut as a "we're going to wait on this and release it later, when it's good enough, but the rest of the game is good to go".

It's not like AoC, where GOBS of content was left out, classes weren't bothered to be balanced or de-bugged, and PvP was mindless ganking. FunCom pretty much shoved AoC out the door, and Mythic has been taking the exact opposite approach.

The similarities between the two are really only that "there is some content missing at launch" - but that seems to be an increasingly difficult problem for developers. At least they were honest about it.

antialias02

What the hell are that many orcs doing standing in front of Ironforge like that?

Gileadxv

i can't wait for it to come out, though it's coming out a few days before i get my next check so im gonna prolly have to trade in games to be able to get it >.< lol

demonknightinuyasha

I like AoC, theres a lot of good stuff there, but its starting to look like they don´t have the ability to make it work. Hope im wrong.

WAR sounds a lot different, theres a highly experienced team behind it, should be ok when it comes out, i hope, at least more of a finished product then AoC still is.

Krumm

oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy
I am SO excited for this game, I feel like a kid again. *thinks back to the day he played hooky(ie?) for FF7*

c0rnpwn

I've been looking forward to WAR for a while now but ever since they announced the cut content I've completely lost interest.

Rubezh

Just resist temptation and wait a few months before picking up the game. I kicked myself for getting sucked into AoC's hype.

DissmalScientist

They burned so many bridges over DAoC, I can't see this game possibly turning out well.

I already see the same rookie mistakes which doomed the last game... sledgehammer approaches to fixing balance issues. Let's just randomly sack entirely classes and hope they don't notice!

HeyApples

@FreakyFavabean: More like World of Warhammer...Craft.

Kazzahdrane

It continues to surprise me how many people have sworn off this game since the news came that they'd cut content. It's like people don't think that every single game gets stuff cut before release - the only different is that we knew about it before it was cut. I guess if one of the careers they cut was the only one you'd planned to play I could understand it, but from what I've heard from beta players the game is all the better for it (just their opinion, of course).

Anyway, the game might be shit but think people are being a bit hasty writing it off based on some stuff getting cut.

Having said all that, I REALLY want to use my beta key that I got from pre-ordering the CE. I'm not sure how much longer I'm going to have the free time for an epic MMO (job hunting just now), so really want to try the beta before I spend £50 on a game I might end up hardly playing!

Kazzahdrane

@Gileadxv: Getting ready to destroy the world of warcraft for taking their world and art style? Warhammer came first, and both Warcraft and Starcraft are heavily based on it.
Anyway, like others have said, Mythic seems to know what its doing. Even if they did remove lots of stuff, they felt that it would help them achieve their goal of making it as polished as possible at launch.

FreakyFavabean

Deffinently something to look into while we wait for WotLK. Been waiting for this since it was announced so long ago.

belo

I speak for myself and my buddy in the cubicle next to me when I say "YAY!" and do a tiny dance.

...I won't pick it up for a couple month after release, though. Just to be sure.

beantastic!

@IanC:
Yowzers, thats more than i thought. £10 a month. Hmmm. Okay the 3 month fee doesnt look too bad...

IanC

@Ken: It's not just the servers. It's the money to keep developing new content for it as well.

Guild_Navigator

Beta?

Also, UK prices? *toodles off to the UK site*

IanC

MMO Charging monthly fee is Bullcrap! I've played tones of games with online gaming and they never charge a fee!! with the $50 we spend with them, they should be able to afford the servers.

Ken

@macr0planet: Maybe you're just cheap or didn't get a good two weeks out of AoC. I wouldn't consider $50 a waste for a good game that I grow tired of after a couple of weeks.

paydirt76

@HeyApples: Eh, I don't agree at all. They made some mistakes during DAoC (Trials of Atlantis comes to mind...) but in the grand scheme of things they did a very solid job with that game. Its still breathing after 6 years which is more than you can say for most MMO's.

jamouq

To all of you asking, the pre-order open beta starts Aug 15.

Smeesh

@HeyApples: It wasn't random you idiot, they listened to our Feedback from the Beta Testers and they did what was right. The classes werent ready and would have just been a big let down for people that did play them. Now they can do them right.

Vindicoth

@Ken: Which games, exactly? Most games with online components run where one of the player either hosts the server or has a dedicated server running on another machine. MMOGs on the other hand run on servers owned by the developer or publisher, and the monthly fee pays for their running and upkeep. And, yes, some of it is profit. If it wasn't profit they'd have no reason to keep the servers up or make new content.

Kazzahdrane

@FreakyFavabean: I kn ow, my favorite Starcraft race is totally the Tyra... er.. Zerg!

antialias02

Now all that's left is for them to say "Oh, btw, we're dropping the NDA." That day will be an explosive one.

antialias02

With Spore coming out the same month, and the harsh lesson I learned from AoC still fresh in my mind, I will most certainly be waiting for reviews of this one.

michaelmacmanus

From the YouTube videos I've seen it's not worth plopping $40 for

z0phi3l

I think anyone who buys an MMO within a week or two of launch should get two free months of access, if not more, since these games almost never have their shit together.

Why yes, I did buy AoC at launch. Why do you ask?

Silverbackne

@Kazzahdrane:
Sure stuff gets cut from MMO's but I mean this is the biggest cut of content I've seen. 4 cities and classes is a huge chunk of content.

Odin

I will be there stompin on stunties

TheTog

I'll be deciding whether I can be fussed or not after I sample it again at Gamesday on september 14th, if it's still the clunky mess I played last year I'm not spending money on it.

Odin

Also, the game's level of polish is tremendous. Hopefully when NDA drops people will realize this.

Azures

I can tell you as a beta tester who played both wow and daoc for years: This game may look like WoW at first to many of you, but don't let that fool you. The more you progress you understand how different it is, and that its actually MUCH closer to DAoC.

Azures

@paydirt76: I put in a good 50 hours on AoC so I don't consider it a waste of money. Hell where else can you get entertainment for a buck an hour.

Chewbenator

Hopefully the game is polished and ready for release. I really want to pick up an MMORPG but im not sure I want to go back to WoW, and there are no other MMORPGs that really interest me right now.

Hopefully this game is good. I've followed some of the stuff for a while now and I just hope this can deliver some of the same quality stuff that WoW did.

Refused

The first thing I notice is the crappy texturing on the mountain there. You just can't unseat WoW without attention to every detail, and that includes visuals.

eldunce

Those of you who are marking your calendars might want to mark it in pencil. You know, just in case.

Skunky

I was pretty hyped for this game until I saw that RvR footage from the video of the month. It looked like garbage. I love Warhammer, but they need to push the envelope a bit more before they get my dollars.

gemetzel

I'm in the beta and I can safely say this game IS ready for launch.
It already feels more polished and fun than AoC is now. In my opinion, we won't feel the cut content at all and considering the cities are going back in..
Well, lets just say i'm glad I preordered my collectors edition.

Yadama

@Smeesh: Thank you.

This is pretty horrible timing for me personally. I was hoping for a week sooner. It looks like I'll get one weekend in before school and work start at least. After that though... my video game time is cut down to about 5 hours a week at best.

Grahamunculus

!!! Checked my EAMythic account and it turns out I was already accepted into the beta, bastards never emailed me!

Chewbenator

+ Watch video

Ruzi

Im really tempted with this one..I never played the table top but i would pluck down cash at the local comic shop so i could paint the little figures.. the character designs are amazing.. Right now, I'm playing AoC, and i'm still enjoying it.. the kicker for me is that it feels really fresh and exciting with high production values up until about level 20, then they literally cut production values in half, with no further voice acting, facial animations, or cut scenes.. I agree with those who have said before, it has potential.. and i'll keep playing it, but if Warhammer comes out and turns out to be the second coming.. it'll be too late for AoC to prove itself and it'll lose itself yet another subscriber.

brodie123

This'll be fun to try out, and I was suddenly just reminded that my PA hoodie is from the "World of Warhammer. Online. Craft." comic. Here's hoping it's as good at gripping my attention as WoW has been, which I've gone back to like clockwork every time I have anything resembling exams on the horizon...

Ladi

@gemetzel: Try to play open beta before making that leap.

Azures

All the nerds complaining that Blizzard ripped off Warhammer are so humorous. That's like saying Brahms sucks because he was inspired by Beethoven.

Sushmonster

There are enough differences from WoW that I'm excited to see the game in action. Public quests sound awesome, and the ability to literally loot, pillage, and burn to the ground your enemy's capital city is a BIG draw. Also the tome of knowledge will likely become an addiction as well. Oh, then there's the guilds and cities all levelling up and changing. That's really cool too.

Pretty much I can't wait to play.

Lazz

I am extremely excited to hear about this. I've been waiting on this game since the beginning.

Ken Hikari

@Atrahasis: Good luck. Ganking is going to be next to impossible in WAR.

antialias02

I don't really plan on playing this one, but I really hope it is incredibly successful. I'd love to see all the lulz gankers find a new place to ply their craft, preferably far away from my tender little alts.

Atrahasis

As a Mac guy, I don't know the final verdict of you PC dudes (and chicks?) on AoC... is it considered a total failure? I had looked forward to the 360 version, but if it's already gone tits-up, then I may as well save myself $60.

Jonaconda

Lift the NDA already so I can really comment. :(

aveneyer

Yeah, ok I'll say it.

This is pretty much the only MMO I have been interested in since I stopped playing EQ 6 years ago.

Kymarak

when the hell are they opening the beta for pre ordering the CE? Theres only a month left.

turtlesorpenguin

They're launching the game on my birthday, I believe it's a sign. Now they just need to let us who pre-ordered enter the open beta sometime soon.

Neo1337

@Frologic: Agreed

ShadowScale

@Sushmonster:
To be fair Warcraft and Warhammer are stupidly similar (as are Starcraft and 40k), it's primarily Games Workshops fault though for pulling out on Warcraft (which was going to be a Warhammer game). Blizzard just modified what they had already and pushed it out the door. Still Warcraft has become largely established and now stands on its own two feet as a seperate entity from warhammer. That doesn't mean they still don't borrow a few things *coughpaladintier2cough*.

Odin

I had such high hopes for this game untill I played beta. It has absolutely no feeling and I seriously doubt they made any big changes since late beta phase.

Aeryss

I leave September 18th to go Study Abroad :*(

copet

I've been in the the various warhammer online beta phases for about nine months now.
It's not a bad game... In depth game play, yet very very casual friendly. As far as I've progressed (which isn't to endgame) it doesn't seem that there is any need for hardcore-play 20 hours a day-elitest players, except maybe for those who practice for play in the PvP matches.
The graphics are just about on par with WoW.
My biggest complain is that it is very slow paced, in both PvE and PvP.
If WoW was an action FPS, than this game is closer to a turn-based game =/

Quatre707

@Aeryss: It's a good thing you've been keeping up with the phases then. Shows you like to make assumptions :)

I can't wait till the NDA lifts. You guys should read the gamespy daily blog. They are making some great comments about the game.

Dallin

I have been in the WoW, VG:SoH, AoC(lawl), and now the WAR beta. Out of all these games... Warhammer is the most polished beta I have yet to see. It still has some geometry issues (stuck in world and falling through it) but other than that... the gameplay is balanced between the races, the controls are solid, and the world just looks good.

As far as ganking goes... they have a great mechanism (which I have been a victim of) in place to prevent it... lol...

People who say its not "fun" or "rewarding" either haven't played it or have some odd expectations of how a game should be "fun" and/or "rewarding".

They didn't "randomly sack" classes/content either. Anyone who actually read the press release would know that they got rid of those classes based on Beta feedback. It is not like WoW... in which they have a class that's broken to this day... Hunters...

On a side note before anyone says I'm a WoW hat0r or whatever. I played WoW for 3 years. It is a solid game. Arguably better than WAR in a lot of ways. However I started playing WoW for PvP... and they have subsequently broken PvP more and more with every patch. After they ruined the Arena with Sham/War combos; I decided the game was done.

robobrak

Also a current beta member here. I honestly had no interest for this game prior to my friend introducing me to it. I still actively play FFXI, never got into WoW (neon colours suck), so WAR is a real nice change of pace for me (a nice mix of instant and a bit of long term gratification).

However, it still hasn't persuaded me to preorder the actual game though...

sayoko

@Sushmonster: I think it isn't so much people complaining Blizzard ripped off Warhammer, but an annoyed response to people claiming Warhammer Online ripped off Warcraft.

Warskull

Hopefully they have a trial version. I was really excited about this and AOC. But after seeing how AOC turned out I'm going to wait this one out. Worse case scenario I can just wait for 40K which will be a more badass enviroment and setting

dgchatterbox

@HeyApples: "Let's just randomly sack entirely classes and hope they don't notice!"

To bad they did the complete opposite and announced that the classes weren't up to shape rather than releasing 4 broken classes like most games would of done. They weren't trying to sneak the cut around the customers, they had the balls to flat out tell us that it wouldn't get into the game and its for the better because they were broken. They, unlike Failcom believe in talking with the community about what they couldn't do for the game rather than having all of us buy AoC thinking that everything on the box is ingame.

thestones892

@waza:

Get you facts straight man. Mythic and Gamesworkshop have been making this game long before WoW was even in development. Everything you see in the Warcraft series is due to Warhammer tabletop. Warcraft straight up stole features and gameplay aspects from Warhammer. As regards to these "cool" features you talk about, I'm pretty sure that Realm vs. Realm, public quests, guild towns, armor dying, Town Seiges, PvP leveling, and Tome of Knowledge are amazing game innovations. You will not find any of these "cool" features in WoW because WoW is a piece of crap and Mythic actually care about their game.

BlackBlood64

I was also closely watching the progress of this title for some time, but with the Wrath of the Lich King release landing not long after, I may have to pass. The vision and dedication to the game from the people at Mythic drew me in, but I'd prefer playing with my wife and friends in WoW than solo in WAR.

battlecrow

I, for one, am excited to see an MMO with a real focus towards the players. I actually feel that cutting the content was the best choice, since an unpolished few classes and cities would most likely end up in nerfing and all sorts of nasty updates. There is nothing worse in an mmo than having your favourite class nerfed down to the point where you can hardly recognize it anymore.

CaptainQuantum

@Ken:

You sir, are retarded. Please leave money handling to the big boys. Thanks.

StlRyan21