I have no problem with paying for a demo that would only be otherwise available with a movie I already own. Saves me the 30 bucks I'd lose in buying a movie I haven't watched since my initial viewing.

I also bought ZoE strictly for the MGS2 demo, as I also did with Code Veronica X and the DMC demo. Completely worth it, as all four games were amazing.

Also, is anyone else bothered by the phrase "choking on penis monsters"?

Oh McWhertor...

Lethal_Dosage

This is for the morons who purchased gt prologue...thanks for setting the precedent and setting us all up for future bullshit like this.

Snukadaman_

Paying for a demo.... yeaaah. No way that is ever going to fly.

Sam Smith

F that

Kikouken

Personally I would never pay for a demo but sadly there will be enough hard core FF fans that would not even think twice to do it. I must say though, all this time having to wait for a game then to get a little glimpse you have to pay?! Talk about a big FU to the fans. I hope this does not become a trend.

Octo1

@Infil: Because if Squeenix wants to make money off it, they'll be no free downloads. They could have just as easily offered it FREE on PSN, as well as Live. But it dosen't look like thay want to give this away. No they'd rather use it to push a movie sale, or make $40 bucks.

Ravaged

We all bought ZOE just for the MGS2 demo...but that was a different time in gaming history. There was no way to download anything to the PS2 back then.

Fast forward to today where 1.5 gig demos are the norm, which can be downloaded within minutes, for FREE!

FU Square Enix if you think you can charge us just to try a beta of your god damn game.

What is going on with this industry?

Do not buy into this to set a precedent for all other publishers.

We need to put an end to this now.

sakipooh

I don't knowy why the xbox fanboys are crying...it says ps3 version....nothing of xbox.

karateka

I own a copy of Zone of the Enders for a reason and it's because I really wanted to play Zone of the Enders.

Had to fix that statement there.

captainapplesauce

Final Fanta$y: Cri$i$ Core

sixonedoesitall

@Ravaged: Why would a demo not be downloadable over XBL? I already download 1.3 gigs per demo currently available. Even if this jumps up to 2 gigs or something, it's not going to make a difference.

Infil

I remember the good ol' days when I could get around five free demos every month bundled with my subscription to PC Gamer...they still doing that?

Lightman

WHAT?…no, I don't pay for demos. The demos are there for me to decide 'IF' I want to give you my money for the full product.

Sh0dan

@Infil: Do you really think the all great and powerfull MS would make this demo free by setting next to the casheir and telling him to give you a "FREE" game disk.... Really.... REALLY... I MEAN REALLY? Unless this is put on live or PSN wich it sounds like it isn't happening, your paying for this either with or without FFVII:AC.

Ravaged

Final Fantasy: Qrisis Qore

karateka

yeah, no idea what (if anything) if MS is doing here.

so i guess if im not buying the Advent Children blu-ray (perhaps the world's greatest screensaver - i mean, think about having it on, in the background, on mute, whilst friends are drinking/smoking out - could really justify itself there, kinda) im waiting on the full game, cause if it goes down this way - this doesnt look definitive, people - ill not support paid demos either, to be fair.

TheIrishNinja

Bad Square, No cookie for you! Go sit in your corner.

revscott

Why the Hell would I ever pay for a demo?

twesterms 2nd

Do not want.

SolidEyeSystem

@Kado: Doh! Fix0red.

Michael McWhertor

@Acebuckeye13: got. My spelling and typing skills leave something to be desiered.

Acebuckeye13

@kagebutsu: Hew, at least we go Crackdown with it. That was a fun game, a lot better then most sandbox games.

Acebuckeye13

Lol, I know why you own Zone of the Enders... I almost bought it for that same reason. Kinda wish I had though to see what some of the fuss was about.

udiie

lol, I bought ZOE to play MGS2 as well! :0

MetalGearMax

Or just get the bluray you get a rerendered advent children in hd and the demo
win win

33cbg2113

@kagebutsu: But, see. You got a great game with it.

udiie

It's Square Enix. I kinda expected this.

@sailingtonorway: SE now $E confirmed!

twinturbo2

@kagebutsu: That was actually a free beta attatched to a game, the game was going to be sold at that price whever the beta was there or not since that was the cost of all the games just launched. If you only wanted the beta it doesn't matter because the game was still there so you were getting your moneys worth of content.

Llost

Dear Square:

The whole concept of a demo is to try a game before you buy it. Kthxbye.

Sincerely,
360 Owner

TRT-X

Absolute dick move.

Eirias

I always say this in every Square-Enix cashwhore thread: The merging of those two companies 5 or 6 years back started one of the worst business trends in the industry that still continues today

riffleraffle

If you think about it then its really nothing new, I know I payed $50 just to play the halo 3 beta.

kagebutsu

Funny to imagine what people's reactions would be if "M$" or EA did something like this. There would probably be a riot.

sailingtonorway

Only way i'm going to pay for the demo is if it has nothing but the red head in it. <333333333333333333

and she's almost not worth it...ok, i kid. She's definitely worth it.

oneshot_

@Acebuckeye13: Same mindset as me, I thought demos were to see if you want to buy the whole product or not, guess I was terribly wrong. T_T

Ashura

@Acebuckeye13: Yes

NitrousO

GT5: Prologue has more content than most racing games. Making people pay for a 90 min demo is just silly. But whatever, milk it for all it's worth Squeenix.

XeroKool

I hope just because PS3 generally produces higher cost games that it doesn't fuel a series of paying for demoes and stuff. Qore I can understand cos you get Beta's and other stuff too but I don't like the idea of games selling incomplete versions/demoes.

Llost

@Infil: Seems kinda counterintuitive though, ne? M$ being the bastards that they are NOT milking you for every dime?

To be fair, Sony marks things up with their logo on it like a mother, but STILL.

Ah well. I waited since launch. I can wait a few months more.

Setzer IIDX

By delaying this game til the next console generation, they lost a couple of day one sales, I'm betting.

EvilMetsFan

Too bad they will probably make loads on this pitching it to "geeks and otaku".

NorthernAvengeR

Wow...paying for a demo? Not going to happen for me, I'll just wait till the game comes out to play.

friscom99

Oh wow! Final Fantasy "VIII": Advent Children? On Blu-Ray no less! (Ho, ho caught you there Kotaku!) ...
Meh, you'd think their completely unfair "Square Tax" they add to all of their games would be enough.

Kado

Doesn't having to pay for the Demo completly obliviate the point of having a demo?

Acebuckeye13

And, should a 360 demo for FF13 ever become available, it will be free, just like all other MS demos?

If so, I know where I'm going to play the demo.

Infil

Thats crap but itll probably sell like mad.

snakepliskin

PASS

Xuchilbara

fuck you square. i mean at least prologue pretty much stand toe to toe with other "full" racing games.

pandafresh

Paying for demos seems remarkably... unfulfilling.

NitrousO

Paying for a demo? Qrap!

Rectangle

a demo.....you pay for.......huhhhhhhh.

MushroomBoy1022

This has to be the worse Gen for BS. Not only do gamers face higher prices, longer developement times, less diversity in games, and IMO a greater market of shovelware, but I swear every company is out to nickel&dime us.

Ravaged

idk why people are complaining about the zone of the enders thing. Zone of the enders is freaking sweet and the demo was icing on the cake. nothing like these other cases mentioned.

gabelogan

I swear, anyone brings up and complains about GT5:P will be hurt,

ryivanV2

its another demo people will pay for, i for one will not pay for a gt demo and not a ffxiii either

Alchemy_Comrade

lolz at paying for a 2h demo

TheNocturnalSun

This thing is probably going to sell systems in japan no matter what the cost.

snakepliskin

Demo, play to pay, kinda like having to have Xbox Gold to download certain demos.... hum they are paying a lot of attention to the Western way lately aren't they?

stoutbear

@kagebutsu: That's too bad you missed a great game.

JohnnyHash

@Snukadaman_: ...how does one have anything to do with the other? prologue was closer to a full game. that's a strawman argument there.

if anything, go after those buying ZOE for MGS2 demo, Crackdown for Halo 3 beta, etc.

TheIrishNinja

@ihateeverything: Not to mention specifically tailored and unique demo levels. Who remembers Valve's Half-Life demo? Good times.

Lightman

@Infil: Its being developed strictly for PS3 first; And the 360 is being ported when they localize for EU, NA releases; Its highly doubtful a demo would come to the 360 when or around the time the demo comes out for PS3 / with the Blu-ray of Advent Children.

element7

I'm paying for it. Square has everyone by the balls on this one.

Roflcopter_Down: Wants you to follow HIM!

@sixonedoesitall: hahaha i second that remark!

DarthMetalHope

I remember when demos were designed to allow gamers to test a game they heard about before it hit to see if they like it. These days this industry has become a heartless money pit. Overpriced arcade games, paying for demos, game pictures, in-game weapons and characters, content already on a disc but not unlocked. It's madness and bullshit and is part of the reason why I've been playing games much much less in the last generation. Devs say they "want" low prices or no prices on content but just have to settle with MS, yet the guys at Ubi who made Rainbow Six Vegas 1 and 2 got ALL of their extra content packs for free and they have more content than most DLC. It's all bull

ihateeverything

As long as the fanboys will pay for it, they will continue to do it. Gran Turismo much?

SeedyROM

@karateka:

I Lol'd

As for Square, as most stated...Fuck you...This is the shittiest trend in the Gaming Industry ever...

Elemence

@Snukadaman_: Took the words right out of my mouth.

Murderdolls

That would be suck they should just release it for download or maybe give it to people who preorder it so it's not like they're actually paying for a demo... and I bought Zone of the Enders for the game, the MGS2 demo was just an awesome bonus.

schuylerv

You've always "paid" for their demos, going all the way back to Tobal no. 1 that came with the FF7 demo. It's not like this is something new for them, they've been doing it for 12 god damn years now.

Wirbelwind

I loved ZOE, but got it for the MGS2 demo as well.

Watched Advent Children last night and was really wishing it was Blu-Ray. DVD's burn my retinas. And with the additional scenes, I'm sure to buy it, so sounds like I'd get the demo anyway.

Unfortuntely, if there was any series on earth I would actually consider paying for the demo, it would be FF. Okay maybe Fallout. Sad, I know.

Smadubaku

Squarenix ...shame on you...SHAME ON YOU.

ADM86

I'd pay no more than $10.
Otherwise, I'd just buy the fucking DVD..err.. Blu-ray movie.

AssassinTRIP

@chinesedentist: aw man, totally guilty of that one.

TheIrishNinja

Pay for a demo? Gran Tourismo barley got away with it because it offered more content then the typical demo, but they are the only exception. Epic fail of an idea.

Quicksilver4648

@ryivanV2: thank you for the correction. i didnt know that. my apologies.

Naaloq

@m0re: I would greatly enjoy a Quest For Booty style FFXIII demo for $15. As long as it was a side story or prologue, like you said, and wasnt part of the game id eventually buy in the end anyway. Itd be interesting to play through a level of the real game in a prologue a year before it comes out, and then be able to recognize the level when i played through the real game, only maybe then itd be partially destroyed or something.

Naaloq

Well, I was planing to purchase a coppy of advent children anyway.. So it is most like I'll be picking up mine by the time it comes in the bd version with the demo... As for those who wasn`t with the same ideia as mine.. that's a fucking trap of square ;( Sorry for them..

VelhoBabao

This is only an idea, stop freaking out. No one even knows HOW it will work.

If it was released stand alone and cost money, it may contain transferable items / gold like the Fable minigame on LIVE did.

Another idea is that if you purchase the demo, you may be entitled to a discount for when you purchase the full game.

Many things can happen so stop worrying about the speculation of paying, it may not be that bad!

alkalinetrio

Christmas NiGHTS.

Orta

Well, I certainly hope this demo will have a demo so I can see if I like the demo before I buy it to see if I like the game before I buy it.

doubtful

@Naaloq: Qore is NOT a sony product, they are licensed to be on their store but it is not theirs. That could be likened to complaining that Pixel Junk are charging for there product on the store and blaming sony for that.

ryivanV2

I paid for GT5 Prologue, since I think they built a solid game in that case. I disagree with foaming fanboys that that was just a demo.
However, this FF13 demo is just that...a demo. It leaves you in the middle of a game, with no way to progress.
If I want to be cockteased, and have to pay for it, I'll damn well go to a Bada Bing bar

sander_dutch

I'd like to advise everyone not to pay for this demo. If it makes a lot of money it will become the norm. It may even lead to more episodic games (in a bad way).

krushjudgement

they need all the monies to buy tecmo

kitsuneconundrum

@NorthernAvengeR: Haha, you made a funny

@Llost: my guess is when they say this, they mean through a year subscription of Qore, you get the demo.

Also, Betas and demos are the same thing, its just that they want feedback for betas. Which, btw the way, is bullshit in todays gaming, because since when would developers try to hard to dress up assets for 'betas' to have you decide they need to change and scrap them. Betas and the forums that go with them are only there to build a community around a game before it comes out. Its marketing, you have no more say in the process than you would by picking out flaws in a gameplay video.

Btw, have they gotten rid of the ads in Qore?
I bought the first issue to see what all the hype was about. I listened to an interview about how the UI was so unique that itll change the way bluray menus are done, then i find out its the same as the old jampack demo discs, only with less demos, and more commercials...for more money. Thanks Sony.

Naaloq

Planning to buy the blu-ray already at least~

Puchi

You all are complaining, but who here bought zone of the enders in all its six hour glory for the MGS2 demo?

raiseplease

I'm one of the few who bought ZOE for ZOE, and not the other disc that was packed in with it.

How about we wait until the news is concrete that FFXIII's stand-alone demo will have to be paid for instead of complaining because it "may" have to be paid for?

JoltFiend

yeah!!! I can't wait to (not) buy a copy of the demo!!!

zios33

A fool and his money are soon separated.

DarkDragonDave

This concept might actually fly if the demo's story will not be in the full game (it'll be popular with completists). They said that it contains about two hours of gameplay. They can just showcase the whole battle, inventory, and general system but with a separate story. Some kind of prologue or something.

That way at the end of the demo they can put in a cliffhanger that will be continued at the start of the full game. Make an FMV to represent the demo's story.

m0re

Befoul? Really? Advent Children just about completed my LIFE. I'm not even a serious FF7 fanboy...just played the original game once.

Chrysalis

Regardless of how good Tobal No 2 was, how many copies of the original Tobal were sold simply because of the FF7 demo?

chinesedentist

Hm. Yeah, but no.

Demos should ALWAYS be free or given along with another product at the minimum.

Prologue is more than a demo and it certainly gives you more than a couple hours playing time.

What's sad is that I will prob buy the damn demo being that I'm a slight FF fanboy.

sascha23

Hey, If it will save me the pain of sitting through advent children again, I will gladly shell out some of my hard earned dough to play through the demo.

FarmboyinJapan

People here act all surprised and whatnot but this is nothing new. If you wanted to play the FF8 demo you had to buy Parasite Eve. And I forgot the game that included the FF12 demo. If you wanted the MGS2 demo you had to buy ZOE. Then there's the whole GT prologue demos.

Narishma

Fifteen dollars!?

Yeah yeah, kind of late for a Braid joke.

urutapu

Hey guys, they didn't mention a price. It could be maybe $2 ?
Haha, the optimist in me...

somarix

Sorry, but I'm gunna have to pass on this. Spore's Creature Creator was different. You could actually MAKE stuff for your Spore game, whereas a demo for FF13 is just... FF13's Demo.

Salen

Why so much whine? Itś not 100% sure yet, you need to pay for it or wait for the full game and whine cuz of it...

squex

@Lightman: You can still get demos attatched to ANOTHER Product you pay a subscription fee for, a magazine if you will, only it's online... It's called Qore...

Tell me... Why is qore, as a magazine (that you get for free if you subscribe to the physical mag, OPM) so heinous and horrible that people bitch about that when ONLINE PLAY IS STILL FREE AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE FREE?

And this? This isn't qore. This is Squ'eenix deciding to sell a demo. I'm gonna prolly import the Advent Children Bluray to get this demo, so it's not an issue with me.

bobtheduck

@MushroomBoy1022: ROFL

hoopesk2

@alkalinetrio:

...it may contain transferable items / gold like the Fable minigame on LIVE did.

Another idea is that if you purchase the demo, you may be entitled to a discount for when you purchase the full game. -alkalinetrio

That's still unacceptable. A demo is for trying out a game before purchase. If you don't like the demo, you shouldn't be out cash.

And the Fable II minigame is not relevant because it isn't a demo. It's a completely different game that is just related to Fable II.

doubtful

God DAMMIT Squeenix! Why you gotta be like that!?

Placentasaurus

yeah, put that one next to Qore, and GT5-P in the NO! bin

scdnyc

Wow, nearly everyone here is going a bit too crazy about this. At least wait to see what it's priced. If it's $10 or under, I'm in. It's to each their own. If you don't like it, they don't buy it. Simple as that. The sad fact for those that are against this though, is that this demo will sell. It's called capitalism. Square knows they will make money off this, so they'll do it.

BeetMkr10

I didn't buy Spore Creature Creator, I didn't buy Gran Turismo 5: Prologue and I won't be buying this. I will buy the full product though.

Spedfrom

It's an easy choice for me...not much of FF fan so I wouldn't buy it when released even. But to be fair to the GT5 Prologue comments, that's a pretty damn big demo. Still I didn't buy it at 39.99. I did get it when it was 20 bucks though...I think it's worth 20 bucks...but no more than that.

karateka

@TheIrishNinja: problem with buying the crackdown/halo beta was you got a full game buying into the beta..sort of like buying the advent children and getting the demo which i dont have a problem with......really different considering gt prologue is not even a quarter of a game with more tracks/cars/damage promised and sets us up for more demos that are a quarter of a game.

Snukadaman_

@scdnyc: God. damn. Ignorance.

ryivanV2

@Rectangle: *bows down*

Dyson

Square Enix just got the $.

They should be now called $quare Enix.

Just like M$.

xCruciaLx

Why are people surprised that S-E could possibly be planning to milk its fans? It's like the discussion thread for "Kotaku News Update: The Sky Is Blue" in here: everybody grabbing their heads, running back and forth screaming "Purple! Purple! It's gotta be purple!"

This company has made a small cottage industry out of remaking and re-releasing its own product ad infinitum, and it's somehow shocking that they'd charge for a demo? This is just the next step. If they're smart-- as in "horrible"-- like Bamco, they'll have DLC in the game. You know what it'll be? $30 to unlock Sephiroth.

Subbers

Interesting if true. Square Enix seems to be on a mission to alienate every segment of their customer base.
I love the idea of paying Square for the right to... letting them convince me to buy their game? Surely, those who buy the demo get a rebate on the full game, or at least some free in-game goodies, right? Right?

Antiterra

Only a damn fool would PAY for a DEMO.

johnpnj

GT prologue was a pay for play demo of gt5.... I might get the FFXIII demo if its got enough content for the buck.

Stikasasn

@Antiterra:

Square Enix seems to be on a mission to alienate every segment of their customer base.

i really feel the same way. and i've been a square fan since the snes days. it truly seems like they're losing their grip.

i bought dq8 in large part because i wanted to see the ff12 demo. but that's different. i was also buying a game i wanted. i will never, never, hand over even five dollars for the privilege of having what is essentially a sales pitch made on me.

i don't pay to see movie trailers. i don't pay to "check inside" books at amazon. i don't pay to use listening booths at music stores. i will not hand money over for a demo.

if this is true, square enix is getting a bit too big for their britches.

bialia

I'm not going to pay for just a demo. At least with Zone of the Enders it was a full game made by the same director as the demo, and a pretty awesome game, at that. I'll just buy the full game when it releases, thankyouverymuch.

Blah8

I had to buy Brave Fencer Musashi or whatever for the FF demo, so this will be welcomed. For 2 hours, yah, I'll cough up a little to buy FF Advent Children.

daschupa

@bialia: "if this is true, square enix is getting a bit too big for their britches. "
When I first read it, I thought you said bitches.
Square Enix is getting too big for their bitches. Pardon the cliche, but lol.

AllegraStreit

Funny thing. I got Zone of the Enders, for it's own sake. I also got Dragon Quest VIII for it's own sake. I also got Tobal No. 1 for it's own sake. (Though Tobal kinda sucked.) And to pull a really obscure reference, I got Vanguard Bandits (PS1) for it's own sake. (Came with a demo for Lunar 2 PS1.) While there is precedent, it's also kinda unusual. After all, we have a digital marketplace, where free demos are routinely given. In the playstation 1 days, the only way you could get a demo was a magazine subscription, or hang out at your local store. So it is a little out of place. But Square-Enix could get away with it. Depends on whether they package it with another good/decent game, or whether they just throw a price tag on it. For example, putting the demo in with The Last Remnant would not be a bad idea. Selling the demo for $10 bucks, I'm not biting. Just my thoughts. I like to buy finished games.

AllegraStreit

And we will pay for this demo. That's the sad part.

Ryodestined

dem·o [ démmō ]
noun (plural de·mos)
1. demonstration of product features: something made available for testing by potential buyers, e.g. a motor vehicle
2. demonstration of product: a demonstration, especially of a new product ( informal )
3. comput trial software: a trial version of software that demonstrates its principle features ( informal )

with that definition in mind, is it that hard to believe Gran Turismo 5; prologue is nothing more than a flushed out demo?

jwpunk

@BeetMkr10: Yes, the sad fact is that the demo will sell. You're absolutely right about that :P

Lightman

I thought the purpose of a demo was to get people to play for free then feel convinced to buy the full product.

systech

Zone of the Enders was a GREAT GAME! Although, I did buy it on account of the MGS2 demo too... But I ended up loving it, and bought the sequel when it came out.

On point, I'll just buy the Blu-Ray Advent Children, I have a HDTV and a PS3, and AC was a decent movie once you get past the story. So I'll be crossing my fingers Japan doesn't swipe the FFXIII demo out of the US release.

Rinaldus

Does anyone besides Japan get this demo though? I mean, its all good to get worked up about Square doing this or Square doing that but if the demo is exclusive to Japan then whats the point?

I mean, i'm sure that if it is a Japan exclusive its going to cost a MINIMUM of $100 to import(if you buy the FFVII Advent Children option that is) so really what the point of paying $100+ for a two hour demo in a language you can't read?

fenderfuel08

People are acting like they dont pay for demos already. Considering you couldn't play the Star Wars FU demo unless you had paid for live, if you dont have live you cant play the demo. People are so fricken lame, and just don't think.

Samicham85

I wonder if they will release a free demo for the paid demo?

Square Enix has solidly just let me down. I just feel they are charging more and more for mediocre titles with solid stories.

I miss the old SNES/PS1 SquareSoft... and I'm talking games like (the original) FFIV, FFV and FFVI, and Vagrant Story, Front Mission Alternative and Soukaigi...

I'm even starting to miss Brave Fencer ; ;

gpturismo

I've waited this long, am still waiting, and can continue to wait 'till the full game is out if that's the game Squeenix wants to play. (No pun intended)...

jmsalal

I'll probably pass, but if it's offering achievements for the 360 version... maybe, maybe I'll rent it...

headcrab

@gpturismo: Yeah, it's sad how they justify the extra charges just b/c of the company name. I remember FFIII being the first DS game to cost $39.99, $5 more than any other game to date back then. Too bad so many of their titles are mere echoes of an age long past.

jmsalal

Now now, this could possibly work. If they give people who buy the demo a discount off the game itself, for instance.

WittyUserName

Wow. It seems that everyone has "how can we kill PS3 sales" down to an exact science.

Antic791

Good thing the Final Fantasy franchise is a played out, overdone pile of crap, otherwise I might care.

Krakn3Dfx

i'll get it with the blu ray

ps3rulz

I won't buy it I'll get it bundled with the dvd if it comes here

ps3rulz

its a shame cover disks went the way of the dodo in the advent of XBOX Live and the PSN.

Those where the golden days where magazines would foot the bill to bring us exclusive demos. Game Developer gets paid, We pay for the magazine in droves. Everyone gets paid, everyone was happy.

And the circle of life was complete.

Zuluhero

Wow, that picture couldn't be more fitting!

Basically, Square Enix is holding us at gun point and robbing us of our money!

LeLoi

After the VERY long wait, you would think that S-E would try to appease the fans, by giving us a taste of what to expect from the full version. But no, it appears they may try to milk us poor sops for all they can get. You would think that the payoff that M$ would have given them to port FFXIII to the 360 would have been enough. If this is going to be the norm going forward, I for one will boycott S-E games. (except full version of FFXIII as this was my main reason for upgrading to the PS3.

IZaHaY

Heh i love the comments on here.

Square's FF demos have always come bundled with one of their other products VII with Brave Fencer Musashi, and XII with Dragon Quest VIII, I want to say VIII was with Parasite eve, but i could be mistaken.

So just because people have more access to free demos they are complaining about their style now? Halo 3's Demo wasn't free, you had to buy crackdown, most major instant million sellers aren't free as they know people will buy the game anyway.

So buy their blu-ray advent children and get it free, like their normal style is. Or pay 5 or 10 bucs to get a 2 hour demo, yea not free but seriously they aren't pulling a GT5:Prolouge here more like sustaining the server room that will be hammered with downloads if they put it on PSN and XBLA(if they are allowed to put a no doubt gig or 2 download on there).

Spoony

Big surprise there.

Nisori

God damn people! Quit your bitching! It's not a 15-minute demo for christ's sake, it is a 2 HOUR CHUNK OF THE GAME. THAT IS THE LENGTH OF A FEATURE FILM. If it's priced $20 or less, it's totally justified.

Yaywalter

@chinesedentist: I don't know if you can blame Tobal No1 (Tobal 2 never released stateside) sales on the demo alone. Tobal was supported by fans of Toriyama's art style, a relatively strong environment for 3-D fighters, and at the time, the Square name meant a quality gameplay experience. these days, their games are so hit or miss, it's becoming a crap shoot as to whether you'll end up with a AAA title, or another piece of unplayable drek.

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