I love how the sony rep's reason for no concern is that ps3 is a blue-ray player? it's like the thing is a blue-ray player, and oh look for no extra cost we'll throw in this whole video game feature for you, what a sweet deal right? Isn't PS3 a VIDEO GAME CONSOLE?

MixPix

Sony might be concerned in January 2009.

"...the broadest and deepest software lineup in the industry..."

If they're honest with themselves, not even Sony fanboys believe this.

Star A.D.

I already have a 360 and Im thinking about selling my Wii but still Im not too sure... Im also waiting for the ps3 to hit $200 to buy it... @ $400 it just a no go.

Señor Cagon

Not to mention having to buy a harddrive for the 360.

dsigns

$199 + $100 for wireless + $50 for live = $349

Just get a Sony card like I did and get the $150 credit and you get a PS3 for $250.

dsigns

@Murderdolls: I don't think any early PS3 buyer really regrets their purchase while looking at the new systems. That's just what I think though.

FP_slomo788

Here's the thing about the price cuts... I was all about wanting to get a 360... till I discovered that the arcade version; which is the one cheaper than the Wii, has no hard drive. Instead it has 256 meg something or another. How does that work? To me it's almost a moot point to buy that version since buying the better one is still $100 less than buying a ps3 and $100 than the arcade. I'm trying to figure out how one would take advantage of actually using a 360 without a proper hard drive... and I'm completely baffled. Not to mention to buy a hard drive for the thing is basically the equivalent of buying the model with one already installed. So now... I'll just save up that extra $100, buy a ps3, and wait patiently for a tales of vesperia port...

Ceiling90

Just wait until Gears of War 2 is out. Then we'll see if Sony is concerned.

lc204

@Murderdolls:

They got screwed.

Nice Slipknot pic by the way. I was a HUGE knot fan until I heard their latest album... Which should not be titled "All Hope is gone" but "Political Stone Sour with a DJ"

Still love the first three though :)

VladMalice

New system in the works? Sony's reply: nope. Price cut for competitor's system? Sony's reaction: not phased. In reality, it's quite the contrary. Anyone who's visited video game sites for the past 20 minutes already know the drill... Not saying a price cut is coming, but Sony is probably the last source to check. And for good reason too, they wouldn't want to halt the momentum PS3 has had this year so far by promising a price reduction for the end of the year. But I'd be very surprised if it didn't happen.

FP_slomo788

Get your PS3 now to play those movies!! (Samsung) Blu-Ray only has five years left!! [www.pocket-lint.co.uk]

Lyme

@Xemnas: If you are looking for a blu-ray console, the PS3 is inarguably the better value. If not, then value is completely in the eye of the buyer.

robinandtami

meh, 360 gets a price cut.
sony plays it cool.
sony's doin work in my opinion.
sony FTW<3

ma

I bought my 360 second hand for $100, but I almost never turn it on anymore, there's just too many games for me to keep up with, and the PS3 has everything I want.
Besides I'm not going to buy a game for a box that'll probably destroy it.

Also, remember kids, breadth and depth =/= quantity.

RaepGoblin

@eternalsunshineofcoralfang: "you get what you pay for"

What about early PS3 buyers?

Murderdolls

The PS3 is the better value BY FAR! Sony just needs to point that fact out to the general public. We, the hardcore gamers, already know it.

Xemnas

@kend7510: The Xbox Live account pricing doesn't bug me at all. It's quite justifiable and Live is a great network... but the wireless thing sure gets me. Even the Wii has wireless built in, dammit! Our whole network here is wireless and a 360, when I get one, would be the only device I don't own that wasn't ready for it right out of the box. It's inexcusable for them to continue like this at this point in time. I don't have a wireless bridge to plug into it, nor am I paying $100 for their USB wireless adapter.

Also, I don't know if another 60GB and a black console is worth another $100 for the Elite, either. The proprietary hard drive thing is also troublingly greedy. I would like a 360, but it's still a hell of a hard purchase for me to justify right now.

Grave

I own both. If I didn't buy the 360 at launch and had to pick just one system, I would hands-down pick up a PS3 for a $100 more and get their killer 1st party exclusives and a blu-ray player.

I don't think they need to drop until next year, although a $50 drop before the holidays wouldn't surprise me.

sascha23

$199 is the sweet spot historically, so its a good move strategically. Fable 2 and Gears 2 could be the proverbial left and then a right, to finish 2008 with a bang.

Eclectus

you get what you pay for
PS3 will have better game selection this holiday season plus it is THE HD-movie player as stated by the Criterion folks especially since that HD-DVD is no more (for those of you ignorant folks: [en.wikipedia.org])
A mere $100 advantage shouldn't be a concern (Arcade doesn't count, it has NOTHING, I totally regret getting an Arcade)

eternalsunshineofcoralfang

I'm going to get one of the 80GB PS3s for Little Big Planet. 400 dollars isn't that bad a price point, especially since you're getting a blu-ray player. If you want to play PS2 games, save 300+ watts and play it on a PS2.

Lokno

I own a Wii and Xbox 360. I'm waiting until "The Dark Knight" comes out on Blu-ray to buy a PS3. I hope there's a price cut by then, but I'll buy one either way.

poover

When the 360 hits $99 I will buy one for Mass Effect and Halo Wars. Otherwise my PS3 is still my system of choice. I think this is a smart move for Microsoft but I agree with x omega gold; most people who wanted a 360 probably already have one. That is not the case with the PS3.

AkirasCrow

@excel_excel: I sort of agree with his position. I don't think this price drop is going to have much effect in the long term battle for 2nd place. I don't think Sony has too much to worry about this holiday season. If they want to raise interest to combat this, I think a temporary price drop via $100 instant rebate would probably come out being more successful than MS's permanent one.

I don't think most people are going to go into the store looking for a "video game" machine that costs the cheapest. They are going to be going in looking for a Wii, Xbox, or PS3. All this price cut might do, is get some PS3 owners to jump in, or get those who were waiting for the Xbox to drop price.

Aex

It makes sense that Sony is not concerned, because lowering prices is a double-edged sword. Look at it this way, if you were accused of murder that you didn't commit, who you hire the $60/hour lawyer or the $1300/hour lawyer? Because Sony is such a higher price; they want consumers to think there is more quality in the product.

SpearXXI

I own both a Wii and a PS3. I would like an XBOX360, especially since the price cut, for those JRPGs. But there are already so many games to play I doubt I will pay 360 any attention even if i buy it.

That plus the console doesn't have built in Wi-Fi and free multiplayer....

kend7510

"the broadest and deepest software lineup in the industry,"

Where is my JRPG's, I miss all the awesome time with the PS2, something PS3 is completly lacking. Even Xbox 360 got more in this department.... And yes I pretty much only play JRPG.

MugiMugi

I'm just waiting for the PS3 bundle with DS3, 160 GB and 70 euro credit to be released.

I already have an X360 for my next-gen gaming.

But to be honest, due to my lack of time to play videogames nowadays (as I'm already 30 yrs. old with a wife, a kid, and a hectic job), I'm finding that I'm playing more and more with the Wii.

The games are simply more pick-up and play.

Going back on topic, yes, I'm still holding out (but not for long). =)

reekon

i have a friend who was just waiting for one of them to get cheaper and since its the 360, he's getting that.

BTW, he already has a Wii and DS in his home.

jp182

I have to say, as a poor art-college student, I'd like a fine price-cut from Sony...

Mesren_Makai

Purchased the MGS4 bundle. Now planning to sell the MSG4 game and buy Pixel Junk Eden, Pixel Junk Monsters and 1942 with the proceeds :)

refux

I just hope Sony does not turn to this guy i know that he thinks that he is the richest guy in the world and ended from driving a 2006 Mercedes-Benz E500 to a 2004 Daewoo Epica.
for some reason they don't give a damn

devilmaycry2020

You'd think Don Mattrick would take note from J Allard and not underestimate the sales of a Sony console, he'd look like a major toolbag if he had to wear dreads for a month.

CreamSodaSlurpee

@Gryfter: by god your right.....er...yeah it DID when it had PS2 BC but now? not so much

excel_excel

Faced with an Xbox 360 that's cheaper than the Wii would normally drive one to the sweet embrace of Death.

I pooped my pants just thinking about it.

Rocci1212

everyone will win in the end lol i guess. i have a xbox 360 now. i sold my wii. i want a ps3 in like 5 years when it hits $130

dipsetboy17

@x omega gold: I disagree, the 360 has not lost its 'edge', to the casual consumer with the exception of blu-ray playback the differences between PS3 and 360 are miniscule, theres still a lot of people on the fence

excel_excel

I'm still trying to figure out how anyone even a Sony exec could think that the PS3 has "the broadest and deepest software lineup in the industry".

Gryfter

i already have a PS3 and a Wii, but i have been waiting for exactly this price-cut that microsoft has just officially unveiled today. i am happily getting one very, very shortly now :D

laser beams

And Disegea 3 or whatever that game's called.

FLYmeatwad

i think the ps3 will be fine, they have so much going for them and the console still seems fresh. The 360 has lost its edge, anyone who wanted it has probably already bought it, the price cut will give them a few on the fence sales, but I dont think its anything for Sony to worry about.

x omega gold

I love my MGS4 bundle. I'm playing through MGS4 again and saving money for LBP, Resistance 2, and to play catch up with Resistance 1, Drake's, and R&C Future.

FLYmeatwad

I will be getting a PS3 soon. If there's gonna be a price cut, sweet. If not, I'll get it anyways.

AokiShinya

Sony responds to Xbox 360 price cuts, seems unconcerned.

hahnchen

@ViewtifulJason: Oh, and I own an Xbox 360 and a Wii. But I got my Xbox 360 around Nov '06 with eager anticipation for...Sonic the Hedgehog...

Sonic Unleashed, don't be a douche like your predecessor.

ViewtifulJason

I snagged the MGS4 Bundle as my graduation present. Still the best damn Blu-Ray player in the price range and LittleBigPlanet is already full paid for in advance.

MGS4? Oh right. I don't play it anymore. Got stuck on the actual espionage in Act 3.

ViewtifulJason

@Murderdolls: ps1 and ps2 emulation. My ps2 broke and i missed out on like 5 jrpgs. Anyway the 400 dollar ps3 doesn't have BC.

The arcade 360 is crap anyway. no hard, no wireless(all of them dont have that) , etc. I just play rockband on my 360.

blackpanther25

@FP_slomo788: I know of several who do. I know of at least one person who gave up on it completely and just sold the thing and several more who only turn it on to play the odd PS3 exclusive that catches their attention...otherwise, the PS3 just sits there collecting dust while the 360 gets the actual regular use.

I bought my PS3 later, thinking that waiting would broaden the library a bit more, but I'm finding I'm in the same boat as teh early adopters, and I have gimped backwards compatability to boot. I spend more time dusting my PS3 than actually playing it.

@SpearXXI: That's a strange analogy. A pricy lawyer is completely useless if he's too expensive to actually hire. If you reeeaaally need a lawyer and you can't afford to shell out thousands an hour, you go with what you CAN afford...especially if the quality between the two MAY be comparable.

cxmnky

I'm buying my PS3 in the next couple of months. I have no interest in the 360 at all, regardless of price.

I have a PC for real gaming, and I have a Wii which I usual for when we have company over. The PS3 will be for LittleBigPlanet, Blu-Ray movies, and whatever other worthy games come along that aren't available on the PC.

ReadNLearn

Still not interested in a PS3. I don't watch very many movies so Blu-Ray isn't a factor, and PS3 has not a single exclusive I'm interested in this year (not even LBP).

Fable 2 and Fallout 3 are all I need for the rest of the year, yo.

benmonkey

@Murderdolls:
The early adopters of the PS3 have the most valuable models that have been made.
Not true of certain other HD game consoles to which most of the launch units are expensive paperweights.

VishusBurn

I'm holding out as I have other bills to pay and the PS3 is damn expensive for my budget. I do not want a 360 at all and my hubby is a PS guy. So the Wii gets our gaming monies for now (well, and some used PS2 games).

Naturestee

Arrogance like that was the reason I passed on PS3 in the first place. And this is after a deep hatred of the original XBox and love of previous Sony consoles.

Fuck Sony.

SIlentStrife

I'm tempted, but if that one game I really want on 360 comes to PS3, then I won't have to buy it.

M

The problem is if Sony cuts the price of their playstation 3, they won't be making profit. So they have to stay where they are.

bird1988

If PS3 was an impulse buy, it would ruin Sony's bottom line. (They're already in trouble due to the recent laptop recall.) If Sony fought Nintendo head-on and sold cheap novelties with mass-market appeal, their core audience would feel betrayed. Unique products always emerge in the midst of competition.

YHWHMystic

@Xemnas: Actually considering the price of blu-ray drives for PC's these days the PS3 is not actually that great value.

@Aex: Sure this price drop won't mean much in the long run, but over the next few months? This will mean a lot for people who were on the fence of buying a 360, particularly those PS2 owners who mayb not have moved onto the next gen yet, with all them juicy RPGs coming out and on the 360

excel_excel

Nah, not holding out for a 360. I purchased a 60GB PS3 last year, upgraded it to 250GB, and am very happy with my purchase. Games, movies (20+ BDs), online gaming(warhawk!), dlc (pixeljunk monsters!), surfing the internet, viewing pics and videos, remote play on my psp... yeah, I'm VERY happy with my PS3, and would not be interested in a stripped-down-wannabe-next-gen-console-that-can-RROD.

As Apu would say... Thank you, come again.

:P

TheFaze

*Hold hand in air*

Was gonna make the leap (have a 360 since launch) when MGS rolled round, but ended up going on holiday instead. I have ze monies just a case of vindicating buying it. Il either get it on Tuesday at Gatwick depending on price or hold out for LBP (and Far Cry 2 seeing as it's now releasing round that time)

Sparkyuk

@ViewtifulJason:
The guy you're following ducks behind a wall and changes into a PMC outfit. You can tell him apart from the rest because he whistles and his helmet loots like he spray painted a bicycle helmet.
(assuming you got stuck where most people get stuck)

VishusBurn

@Murderdolls:
someone teach this kid the concept of early adapters
like I said, you get what you pay for
for $100 or $200 more, you get to enjoy the new technology earlier

by your stupid logic, everything is a rip off and no one should spend money on anything because anything on the market right now will become obsolete and cheaper/better products will be available in the future

eternalsunshineofcoralfang

@Murderdolls: @FP_slomo788:

Launch 60GB upgraded to 300 GB. No regrets.

It's a decent media hub. A lot of good DL games. A decent library of traditional Disc based games and some neat geek options (New 2.5" HD, Linux, Mame, nethack, PS1/PS2 emu)

kingmanic

Ive been holding off from joining the ps3 club since launch mainly cos of the UK price of the bloody thing and although i almost jumped at the news of a twin dualshock bundle recently, the news of ANOTHER 360 cut has made me again back away quickly.. even if it is supposedly a US only cut..

Microsoft may say the same cuts wont happen in the UK, or rather that "they have no announcement" but i dont belive that for a second.. i can see another £30 coming off the euro price soon..

So a £150 down to £129 360pro VS a £299 ps3 still makes me unable to justify why i should pay the double the price for bluray and a deep range of games..

Oh and i'm not a sony hater, i have a ps1 still and two ps2's and a psp, so dont go there fanboys before you think about it..

So yea, the price disparity IS more than ever responsible for me not moving up to the PS3..

psi88

@oxweeblexo: That argument is so 2006. Can't use it anymore.

Alex_Mexico

@Erode: "I need a price cut before I purchase a PS3. Fact is, I cannot afford a PS3 at the price it is now. I want one, but I can't afford it -_- and it makes me sad"

This is the kinda thing I don't understand... how will a 50-100$ price cut help you afford a PS3? For most people 50-100$ isn't hard to obtain.

Murderdolls

@avern: of course, I have the original 60gig, so that helps with backwards compatibility

avern

@MixPix: I think you can have both and enjoy both aspects of the PS3. Nothing wrong with touting both features.

berribrand

@Gryfter: I think what a lot of people don't realize is that there are lots of people still just now getting into gaming. Buying a PS3 is an excellent way for playing catch up on all of the old hits. X360 backwards-compatibility just doesn't cut it not to mention the XBOX v PS2 library doesn't even come close. Just saying...that could be the library he's talking about. Not to mention, we all know PS3 will, in the long run, have the broadest and deepest library of GOOD games in its lineup

avern

@VishusBurn: "to which most of the launch units are expensive paperweights. "

Everyone with a bricked console got a brand new one free of charge with Microsoft's warranty.

Murderdolls

I need a price cut before I purchase a PS3. Fact is, I cannot afford a PS3 at the price it is now. I want one, but I can't afford it -_- and it makes me sad

Erode

@eternalsunshineofcoralfang: "someone teach this kid the concept of early adapters"

You call me a kid and misspell a word in your very first sentence. Nice.

Murderdolls

I only own a Wii and a high end gaming laptop at this point. Due in part to this news I've pretty much given up on the idea of getting their PS3... Bluray isn't extremely appealing and now that the 360 is so cheap I'll definitely be picking one up.

I'll wait until Resident Evil 5 comes out though, as it's the only game I urgently want to play for any of the next generation systems, including the Wii. Wii games all pretty much suck between now and like, ever.

nailpipe

Held out for ages and finally got a PS3 over the 360 a few months back despite:

a. free games on XBox
b. buying an expensive HDTV

MGS4 makes you do crazy things. I've got 7 PS3 games and some of my mates have about 300 XBox games, still, I got a PC and I don't regret my purchase.

mikeleddy83

Xbox has had to cut prices so it will sell more after slowing sales...

PS3 had to do it shortly after it's launch.

Not the best start...

The Wii has yet to cut its price.

Does anyone remember when the origional xbox launched then hacked £100 off the price after one month!?

No company wants to make price cuts. They are a reaction to slow sales.

Companies revise hardware make bundles and re-invent their console in order to prevent price reductions.

The Wii sells a shit load and only comes in one SKU. No revisions. Not even a colour change. Price cut? No chance!

GOD

I want to eventually get a ps3, but yeah, dream on Sony. A price cut would bring me one step closer to getting one, until then, i'll save myself some money and invest it instead.

wizll

@M: Which is... ?

Alex_Mexico

@oxweeblexo: Wake up, it's 2008!

FP_slomo788

i would love to get a ps3, but primarily for blu-ray. other than blu..i'd only consider buying 3 games - mgs4, warhawk 'n littlebigplanet and renting other single player one play thrus like uncharted 'n rachet 'n clank. i'll wait to see how resistance 2 'n killzone 2 turn out, tho i think 360 takes care of most of my shooter needs.

i'm a little turned off that ps3 doesn't support IR universal remotes 'n i've never dug the placement of the left analog stick. plus i only have 2 other friends that hav a ps3 'n they barely play.

instead, i mite spend several hundred more for a real media center/gaming pc.

snowbeach024

@FunKrusher: The ratio is 1:3 (cutscenes to gameplay) I believe. Considering the game is on average 20-hour first run it's not bad at all. Add in MGO and it's really a complete package. Not as good as MGS3 I agree but it's still a phenomenal game imo.

FP_slomo788

Original article quote: "What we're curious about is if anyone out there in Kotakuland has been holding out this long on the "next gen" purchase, opting to "jump in" and giving up on that PlayStation 3 purchase because of the price adjustment."

Yes, I'm one of those people. I tried to purchase a PS3 a month ago, got jerked around by Sony, and now that they've eliminated backwards compatibility (I still periodically play some PS2 games) their one or two games I want that are exclusive to PS3 are no longer worth the exorbitant price tag. I'm not here to watch blu-ray, use a media extender, or do anything other than play video games. I am getting a 360. I'll probably pick up the arcade and get a used hard drive for cheap. Sorry Sony, game over.

I really wanted a PS3, but their cutting of features that are important to me and failure to lower the price makes the 360 an easy purchase. I already own a Wii. With all the cheap 360 used games and discounted new games sitting around, it's a no-brainer when it comes to picking the 360 now. I already have an ethernet wire run to my PS2 so switching it to the 360 makes wireless a complete non-issue.

BigDragon

they shouldn't be worried about the price cut. they should be worried about the game library.

oxweeblexo

@ViewtifulJason:

dude i hear you i actually bought MGS4 for my buddy under the deal that while he moved I could hold his PS3 for a bit (I own a Wii and 360), and uh while I finished the game, honestly it's my least favorite in the series (Snake Eater rules to me followed by MGS1 then MGS2) and I had the thought while taking breaks between watching the "ending" to say, damn I think this game had MORE CUTSCENES THAN ACTUAL GAMEPLAY. I mean wtf kojima?!?!

FunKrusher

i know of no one waiting for a 360 price drop to pick one up, in fact quite the opposite. i know of lots of people who either, are tired of the prod and replacing 360s, or who know lots of people who already have a ps3 and want to be able to play each other online, patiently waiting to get a ps3 between now and january.
in fact, where i work has gone from most people having the 360 and only 2 people having the ps3, to most people having the ps3 and only 2 having the 360. and that's within a span of about 8 months.
i see the price drop as a last ditch effort from microsoft to try to oust sony, but i just don't see it working for them.
with the switch to digital broadcasting looming about, i think people will be buying new tvs this year. i know lots of people who, instead of buying the converter box, are going for a new tv.
if i were sony, i'd be putting together a ps3 bundle with blue-ray movie(s). REALLY push the fact that you have the blue-ray player and 360 doesn't. convince the consumer to take advantage of that shiny new tv. i have several friends who bought the ps3 JUST because of it having blue-ray.
sony, you manage to secure a ps3 bundle with "The Dark Knight" on blue-ray, have it ready for november sales, and i believe you will have a feeding frenzy.
all in all, it will be interesting to see how this plays out between ps3 and 360.
just my two cents.

sinister6000

@FP_slomo788: funny story i actually bought my 60gb ps3 a day before the 40gb was to go on sale. I wanted a ps3 partially because of BC. Something was telling me to buy the 60gb and i did. Now i laugh when people are pissed that the cheaper ps3's dont have BC

blackpanther25

@dsigns: You forgot adding +$100 for an overpriced preopretairy 20 (or is it 60?) GB hard drive which the $200 Xbox Arcade doesn't come with.

Alex_Mexico

@cxmnky: I was not suggesting that no one was disappointed by the PS3. I don't know the tastes/needs of everybody. What I meant was that not many (if any) early PS3 adopters regret their purchase by looking at today's and this fall's "bargain" models. The 60GB is definitely the superior version, even today.

FP_slomo788

@excel_excel: While what you state is a possibility. I just don't think it'll happen. Sure, there will be a small spike in Xbox sales, I just don't think it'll be that significant. Definitely not significant enough for Sony to worry about.

I also don't think people who love JRPGS are going to buy anything BUT PS2 titles right now, because even though the Xbox 360 has more... It still amounts to like... 4 or 5. If you count only GOOD titles, 1 maybe 2. Sure there are less on the PS3, but that doesn't mean there is a FLOOD on the Xbox 360.

Aex

PS3 is not amused. ¬_¬

PC+Mac Coexist

@blackpanther25: no hardrive*

blackpanther25

@blackpanther25: their* modem

blackpanther25

@MysteriousStranger: are u serious. Not everyone can just pull there modem or get a wire long enough to reach their 360 console. im gonna act like i didn't read that comment.

blackpanther25

@dsigns: why is it that people add on the wifi adapter to make it seem more expensive than the ps3. no one buys it and wifi isn't for gaming, so don't include it in weak arguments.

MysteriousStranger

@cybereal: I don't know if your post is serious or not. but...

Hehe, Shiny.

Aex

There are several points that you should not underestimate, especially in holiday sales timeframes, that the PS3 has going for it:

1. LittleBigPlanet
2. SOCOM: Confrontation, and SOCOM in general seems to have a loyal fanbase
3. Boredom, people who got a 360 3 years ago are bored enough, or curious enough, to want to try something new.
4. Shiny: The PS3 is shiny, with spiderman font letters on it. It has that unique geek chic type of appeal that sells even when the product's actual offering is weak in comparison to its appearance.
5. Fewer exclusions. BioShock being an example. Sometimes all it takes is one game to give you an excuse to pick one console over another. I bought my 360 because of BioShock, FFXI, and Mass Effect. Mass Effect bored me to tear, FFXi plays better on my PC than the 360, and even though I beat BioShock, if I had known it was coming to PS3 I would have skipped the 360 entirely.

I think Sony is being bold with their pricing. I think they have to be. But wow, if you end up with the whole package PSP + PS3 + Blu-ray movies + existing PS2/PS1 games, and take a look at cool unique features like Remote Play, and video export to the PSP. Take into account the specialized bluetooth headset coming out as well as the over-the-internet ad-hoc networking feature being added for PSP owners!! There really is a lot going for the PS3.

The question is: Will consumers realize what is on offer?

cybereal

I am still bitter about my Xbox purchase because I ended up paying more for it than I have paid for my PS3
The wireless adapter, the harddrive, the HD-DVD drive (couldn't resist, got it on sale for $50), the Gold subscription, they all add up you know. Yet these American Xbox fan boys are still claiming that 360 is better valued.
I am not a fan of Sony but I just think that Xbox360 is overrated/overvalued.

eternalsunshineofcoralfang

I guess if Sony removes their harddrive, gets rid of their wireless adapter, and gets rid of the blu-ray player then they can compete with the 360 price drop.

I would never buy that version tho, I enjoy the extra features I got with mine.

dsigns

i love the points everyone is making about ps3. esp. that consumers who wanted a 360 already have one, so their potential market is shrinking where as owning a ps3 is still kinda rare 'n thus has a broader market. are there total console sales figures?

also i think microsoft 'n sony are flooding store shelves with their consoles. consumers usually tend to want what they cant have. wii is doing to well because of this mystique that is is so rare. i'm sure a lot of people know friends who weren't planning on buying a wii but bought a wii cuz it was in stock that day. then they end up playing 1st party titles only occasionally.

screw it all. dreamcast ftw.

snowbeach024

I'm getting the feeling that most people were looking forward to the Xbox price cut cause they thought it would force Sony's hand...

That is kinda funny.

Aex

uh, sony, instead of doubling your HDD, you should've either lowered your price or bring back BC. then i would've been sold. other than that, I dl my movies, so blu-ray doesn't attract me.

MysteriousStranger

I picked up my PS3 in April of 07. I wanted one before that but birthdays come but once a year, or every 4 if you are unlucky. Its my only console, and I still play PS1&2 games on it regularly.

Rurik

@Murderdolls: I dont think that is what he meant. but hey i may be wrong. oh and my friend has gone 6 360s, i was laughing my but off.

@avern: yeah that is what i thought he meant by a broad and deep library. Im still buyin ps2 games right now for my ps3 lol.

Personally i dont see what is the big deal about 400 bucks. I bought my 360 for that amount, but hey to each their own

blackpanther25

@Murderdolls:
haha, I was ebaying for an A/C adapter for my laptop (need one more in the kitchen)
Just whatever kid
Learn some business before you talk like the big boys.

eternalsunshineofcoralfang

@TheFaze:

Some of the rediculous fanboy comments on here are ridiculous, with this last one finally being the one that made me comment.

For the record I have all 3 of the current contender systems in my house. I can't in any way fathom how anyone can even begin to imply that the ps3 has a wide library of games. It doesn't at all, and won't until well into next year. Blue ray is great and all, but seriously, it's pretty damn clear at this point that digital downloads are the way movies will be going, just like music did. So blu ray will not last as long as DVDs have. They only way digital downloads won't come out on top is if the ISPs stick with the lame data caps.

The PS3 is a great media hub, I'll give you that, but in the grand scheme of things, this is not why most people are buying it. Remote play is a good idea in theory, but personally, it's not worht the trouble at all, especially when the video quality is so crappy over the connection, especially if you're PS3 is wireless. I'd rather convert videos to mp4s and just put them on my psp memory stick. They look way better that way, and don't studder when the network gets congested.

Obviously I like the ps3 well enough to have gotten one, but I have to say the 360 is the better system by far. I've played way more games for way more hours on my 360. It has more of the games that I want to buy, and this is the case for the forseable future. I kinda get the feeling that most of you sony fanboys are just trying to convince yourselves you didn't get suckered.

Oh and RRod can bite me, I'm still on my launch day 360, with no issues. And I'm on my second ps3 in six months.

bodmodkub

@Murderdolls: $50-100 is nothing to me... Not even a half a days work... For some people though, $50 can be an entire days work, and if they don't get much in the way of hours at work, maybe an entire weeks.

Aex

@robinandtami: The blu ray player isnt the only thing that has to do with it being a better value. Rechargeable controllers, wifi, and free online right out of the box makes it a better value imo. Add 170$ or so (360 wifi adapter = 100$, Recharge kit = 20$, Live = 50$ a year) to the cost of your 360.

Detre

"What we're curious about is if anyone out there in Kotakuland has been holding out this long on the "next gen" purchase, opting to "jump in" and giving up on that PlayStation 3 purchase because of the price adjustment."

Yeah, I've been holding out this console generation (I've only got a high-end PC and a Wii), waiting for the 360 hardware to stabilize and/or for the PS3 to reach the $350 price point. I refuse to buy a 360 which will RRoD on me within a year of purchase, but I also refuse to pay $400 for a PS3 which has at best a handful of compelling titles (I couldn't care about Blu-Ray). With Valkyria Chronicles and a couple more console-only games coming up that I'm really interested in, it looks like Sony will get my cash as soon as they do another price drop, as Microsoft seems to have no interest in openly acknowledging the 360's failure rates and in explaining how to ensure that you can find a model (Jasper, whatever) that will actually be reliable. In the meantime, I'm content with the PC ports of most console titles, but I'd really like to play some of this stuff on my couch someday.

AtomicPlayboy

@avern: The problem is, only one model of PS3 has BC... for now. And it's only available in NA. Technically of course they are all compatible to the PS1, but I don't think that's a major selling point unless you own a PSP.

FP_slomo788

@blackpanther25: the statement about my siblings got messed up its suppose to be "have siblings that would mess with anything they see on the floor"*

blackpanther25

"the broadest and deepest software lineup in the industry"

Metacritic

PS3
199 total games
91 with a green score
97 with a yellow score

XBOX 360
448 total games
178 with a green score
226 with a yellow score

"Broadest and deepest software lineup"?

lordargent

i meant half hour cutscene

FunKrusher

the only thing making me want a 360 are a few random XBLA games... like N+ and Braid.

not worth the price, especially since the arcade has no harddrive, making it impossible to actually download any XBLA games!

so.. does this make me want a 360 more? not really.

joeloliol

@MysteriousStranger: Im not up for defending sony cause i have a 360 and i love it. The problem is that my house is too huge and i have siblings that would mess with and i have to buy a wireless for $100. When i first bought the 360 ($400) i thought it came with wireless connection. I was wrong. All im saying is to some people wireless connection is a big factor

blackpanther25

@FP_slomo788:

disagree, i think it would've made a phenominal ANIMATED MOVIE but they lost me it seems like after act 2/3 the cut scenes are way beyond borderline ridiculous.

1:3 i find that very, very, very hard to believe.

Seriously my gf made a comment she said it seems like you've been watching that game more than playing it. The whole of ACT 3 (when you meet EVA in EU) the only gameplay was finding the Resistence dude and after that THE WHOLE DAMN THING WAS A CUTSCENE

Couple that with the fact that a lot of the game enviornments (outside of ACT 1 & 2) were damn near linear and pretty narrow. And honestly I'd give this game a 7/10 overall.

I'm Metal Gear fan by the way not a hater.

I mean the cutscenes at the end of the game were longer than it took me to beat the damn gameplay of the stage.

Seriously Act 5 you watch a cutscene on how you get on Outer Haven, then you sneak or gung ho your way to the inside. Then you fight Screaming Mantis, then you watch a cutscene on Meryl and Akiban then you walk down 4-5 long hallways (2 which have enemies) run into Raiden and get another custscene, then enter another room which basically translates into a playable cutscene that you mash triangle down to advance while watchin Raiden get down, then you watch the "virus" cutscene, which leads into the Ocelot cutscene then the Ocelot fight, which then takes you into the 30hr ending cutscene

1:3 my ass

FunKrusher

@excel_excel:

*sniff *sniff
I smell a MS fanboy.

@sinister6000:
Yes! And bundle it with one of those fancy-pants Blu-ray remotes and a coupon to download 2 free movies from the PSN video store.

SnakesSolids

@MysteriousStranger: Well many gamers are on campuses where they don't allow ethernet connections for anything else but computers. And yes, wifi gaming is pretty safe. If the connection's shitty wireless it's most likely shitty wired too.

FP_slomo788

@Leobebes:
If you think there's a lot of Sony fanboys here, you must have not been here during Microsoft's E3 conference. I've never seen so many comments of self-assuring Xbox fans in my life. Thousands of pages of "omg lol FFXIII multi hahah nail in coffin!".

DustySword

@blackpanther25: looks like someone's up for defending sony.

wi-fi isn't for gaming. period.

and I don't know about you, but I have ethernet ports around my home and so do others so the length of the cable isn't an issue. and if i lived in a small space, an extra long cable still isn't much of a fuss since they're only ~$10 and provides me with the most stable and fastest connection, unlike wi-fi.

MysteriousStranger

@Leobebes: I didn't really see anyone saying the MS price drop was a "BAD" thing. Now, I didn't read and analyze EVERY comment, but that wasn't the overall feeling I received.

The overall feeling I got from this thread so far was "Hopefully this causes the PS3 to drop in price soon" :P

Aex

I've sort of been holding out on current gen consoles, namely the PS3 (for MGS4, LBP, HR, etc.), but not intentionally since I'm 16.77 years old, have no money, no job because of school, and my parents refuse to buy me one for Christmas or whatever (probably because they're probably getting me a laptop). I also need an HDTV, though that's not as important. I play the fancypants new games at my friend's house, so that's how I know about them.

Placentasaurus

@katsujinken: Even when you do buy a PS3... Don't buy the component cables, HDMI is totally the way to go.

Aex

Wow, the comments on here are ridiculous. For the first time this generation a "next gen" console is $199.00 and all of you are lambasting it like its a bad thing?

I always thought Kotaku was full of raging Sony fanboys but this thread cements it.

Leobebes

This won't get me to buy an xbox360. I have just heard too many horror stories about its shoddy manufacturing and customer service and I refuse to buy a system (no matter how great the games are) if the company behind it cuts corners and then keeps denying it and then beefs up warranties rather than fixing the problem. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Same goes for the makers of the games. It took literally only hours after its release for people to find out Bully for xbox360 had a fatal flaw and now so does Castle Crashers.

However I'm still not going to buy a PS3 till it's cheaper, smaller and can play my PS2 games on it. I'm an avid gamer who owns every Sega system, a TG-16, a GBA, DS, N64, PS2 & Wii but with the cost of having to buy a fancy new TV AND pay 500+ dollars for the system, AND buy the HD component cables that it needs yet aren't packaged with AND 60+ dollars per game, Sony has just priced themselves out my market.

katsujinken

@VakeroRokero: The Arcade isn't crap, it's actually the only system that clearly gives you the "choice" Microsoft was touting since launch. Granted it's not really $200 since you still need a couple of things, it might still be cheaper than the Pro model after you buy all you need. The one you want to stay away from is the Elite imo. The Arcade is not the problem, the price of the accessories is. And those prices should go down too so if you want a 360 and would like to save a few bucks I strongly suggest the Arcade model. Just know that you will spend around $300 anyways between HDD, headset at least one game, wires and such.

FP_slomo788

@FunKrusher: Sheesh, at least put a [spoiler] tag around your comments; you know MGS games are especially sensitive to having their entire plots revealed.

[small MGS4 spoilers]
You only seem to remember the cutscene heavy Act V - even Act III had an extended motorcycle sequence, and of course the long-ish Boss Battle. Act IV had a much better gameplay:cut scene ratio, as well as Act I and II. Yea, they may be more linear than what you wanted, but you as a self-professed MGS fan should fully know what you were getting into.
[/small MGS4 spoilers]

Datheron

here's a question...if Sony is trailing MS by 5 million units after releasing a year later and being hammered with anti-PS3 hype, why should Sony be worried. Wasn't this just discussed yesterday? 360 is dead in the water in Japan so that's an entire continent of people that MS really can't depend on. Sales have leaned in Sony's favor for months now. Why should Sony be concerned about the 360? It's the Wii they need to be terrified of and rightfully so.

@FunKrusher: and it was still one of the best damn gaming experiences I've had this gen by far. Zing!

@Aex: component isn't bad but yeah...HDMI is the way to go especially if you have a 5.1 or 7.1 amp. I have the Sony STR-DG-720 7.1 amp and it rocks. Only costs $250 bucks too.

@katsujinken: huh? are you kidding me? Dude do some research before you make comments that make you look stupid. You can get component cables for the PS3 for 10 bucks online. You have to buy a HDTV for HD visuals if you have a 360 or PS3 and last I checked, 360 games were retailing for $60 bucks too so how is sony pricing themselves out of the market?

Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.

@eternalsunshineofcoralfang:

Hmm, a better lineup for this holiday.... Like what?

LBP is a niche title that looks to be boring as hell, and what else is appearing? Im a tri console owner, but this holiday doesnt seem to be very packed for the PS3 imo.Actually, no holiday has as the lineup is still pretty barren. About the only game im looking forward to is resistance 2 right now.(KZ2 has to prove thats its not as crappy as the first one before ill buy into it) Right now im more concerned about diversity than anything and the PS3 has almost no jrpgs. Meanwhile my 360 has provided me with no fewer than 3 jrpgs which I have put over 200hours into with more on the way. This holiday sees fable 2(I loved the first, although it wasw way to short), Last Remnant(on 360 only till unspecified date), and Fallout 3(which has more content in the long run on the 360)

Basically, all im getting at here is defining the "best holiday lineup" really depends on the gamer. For me, the PS3 is coming along, but even if the 360 and PS3 were teh same price, id easily give the edge to the 360 right now simply becuase of current and announced games since thast what I buy consoles for. At $199 the 360 becomes an insane bargain offering a product better than thier competitors at half the price. Its like getting a mercedes for the price of a hyundai. Add to the fact taht the historically most console sales happen at $200 and under and this may or may not be big.

RuneX21

I was very very very close to going with the PS3, until I heard about this cut. Now I'm not so sure. (again.)

85%+ of the games that I really want to play are either already on both consoles, or will be soon. There are a few choice exclusives that are keeping me from buying 360. Namely, Disgaea 3 and MGS4.

Either way, I'm glad that I've waited this long. At this rate, I'll be able to pick up both consoles for the price of one of them at launch.

I'll likely get a 360 Pro before the end of the year now, and I'll get a PS3 sometime in the next 2-3 years, since it's, you know, more "future proof."

ncsbert

"the broadest and deepest software lineup in the industry"

Hahhahahahahahhaah

Poojipoo

I don't know, but when your product is perceived as an unreliable piece of hardware with too many corners cut, decreasing its price doesn't help your situation.

How far will they go? Will they pay people to take one home?

SolidSlug

@notoriousEIC: the average age of the gamer this year is 36, and goes up by a year every year...considering the dominece of social gaming and gaming for the young this generation (take the wii for example), i think LBP will come on top, worldwide - maybe not in the states, cause they like shooting aliens over there, but in Japan and Europe people like games that are different from the other gatrillion ones out there

lucky_7s

@lordargent: the word lineup in gaming terms is mainly used in future tense...meaning next year theres an absolute santa-sack load of games coming out on the ps3 - and mostly exclusives

microsoft? um....halo wars? anything else? maybe theyll cram out another gears in time, sure doesn't take them long to rush a game -_-

lucky_7s

Well, I been waiting this long, the problems is that all of you xbox360 owners been saying for a long time the arcade xbox360 is crap, so I'll continue to wait until the good xbox360s are cheaper.

The PS3 is too expensive anyways.

VakeroRokero

@VladMalice: I have full BC on my 60 gig and still play any of the ps2 titles I own if I so desire so I don't feel I was screwed at all, I also bought the ps2 day one and the situation was almost the same very few games to choose from but in the end ... I still have my ps2 to this very day and it still runs to this very day supporting my ddr craze since I have a metal dance pad that wont work on the ps3.

lilaliendog

@notoriousEIC:

Sackboy not sock puppet.

Stupid dummy jerk ;P

SnakesSolids

@blackpanther25: Anyone can get a wire long enough to go from their console to a router. Just go to fry's or buy one on the internet.

Dalren

@lucky_7s:
"sony are still in the driving seat as i think LBP will outsell gears 2."

I seriously, seriously, doubt that. Guns versus sock puppets. What do you think most teenagers will go for?

notoriousEIC

I wish I would have gotten a PS3 over my 360 a year ago TBH. A lot of the good games seem to be multi-platform and available on PS3 anyway.

Dalren

@dsigns:

'$199 + $100 for wireless + $50 for live = $349

Just get a Sony card like I did and get the $150 credit and you get a PS3 for $250.'

seriously... & pretty damn easy to do...

semiconscious

@FunKrusher: MGS4 was never a sandbox game. The environments could be huge but it was telling a story, so of course it's linear. Much like Half Life or CoD4, etc. The longest cutscene is 45 minutes (the ending, according to IGN) so of course you (and your girlfriend) will feel that it's incredibly long if you're not expecting it. I was expecting it and I enjoyed every second of them. They felt like a reward after the stress of each mission and the fact that I wanted to know the story kept me hooked all the time. Plus the amazing graphics helped too. I agree that the cutscenes were unusually long, especially if you are new to the series, but the game is telling a story and I think it did a good job. Could have been better, but it's definitely not so bad that I would call the whole thing a cutscene. Also, try to be considerate of those who have not played it yet in your next reply (if you do reply).

FP_slomo788

@Aex: Or maybe it is how you define lineup...

Aex

@lordargent: I guess it depends on how you define Broadest and Deepest...

Also, XBLA and PSN games are included in that total.

Aex

the image im seeing here is that most (i say most fanboys) of the people with a 360 are waiting to buy a ps3, whilst those with a ps3 arent really fussed or already have one but are using the ps3 more

if anyone is worrying about this price drop, its microsoft, why else would they do a price drop? because theyre worried they wont get the edge over the ps3 this holiday

sony are still in the driving seat as i think LBP will outsell gears 2. All those expo awards that LBP has been winning for the past TWO years is gonna show in sales

lucky_7s

@MysteriousStranger: It is included because you get it for free with the PS3 but you have to purchase is for the 360.

dsigns

@Konchu: "sigh"...$150 for a 120 GB HDD isn't great value, it's a rip off. check the prices for HDDs on newegg. I just saw a 2.5in 250GB HDD on that site for 70 bucks. MS should have discontinued the arcade sku. What's the point is pushing it when you can't take advantage of Live, without an HDD and you still need to pay for Live. So the $199 "value" is a lie after you add the HDD cost ($150 for the 120GB) and the Live Gold subscription ($50, does anyone even use silver anymore?) That's $400 dollars bro...

lotta value there.

Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.

@LanciePants: Yeah, but I think Sony made the industry a little grayer this generation with Blu ray. The movie format is supposed to help PS3 and "patch" those cuts they suffered from hardware sales. Also, with so many big name first party titles they will most likely cover up even more losses. Plus Home and the advertisement opportunities... But that's just me doing conjectures, so don't take me too seriously.

FP_slomo788

"the broadest and deepest software lineup in the industry"?

WTF? What the hell are they basing that on? Pure and utter bollocks and they know it. They hoped Blu-Ray would be the reason people bought the system, no-one really cares, other companies are coming out saying Blu-ray won't have a 10 year cycle. Sony have nothing to tempt buyers and they know it.

shufflemoomin

@FP_slomo788:

I don't know if their margins are at a point where they can feasibly cut prices further. They've already scrapped the original SKUs for the cheaper to manufacture versions they're selling today. They're deep in the red from selling at a loss during 06 and much of 07 (somewhere around $350 per unit sold). If they want the PS3 to perform in the black this holiday season, I just don't see how they can cut prices. Their only real option is to stay the course, hopefully lock up some great titles and return to profitability sometime '09. We might see a negligible price cut of 50 dollars or so in 09's 2nd quarter. Nothing major though, because if comes down to a pricing war the Wii and it's 7 year old, cheaply manufactured Gamecube hardware wins hands down.

LanciePants

@peacefuloutrage: I think any parent in the market to buy their 6yo child a video game system is going to be directed towards the Wii or PS2. I don't think the Xbox 360 or the PS3 will even be on their radar.

Aex

@FP_slomo788:
Yeah, but isn't Tales only in Japan for now? And it was out August I think.

Btw, sorry about that space after the post, dunno how that happened.

DustySword

The PS3 is too highly priced, so soon Im guna go out and buy another 360.

Lanhoj

@DustySword: You forgot Tales of Vesperia for the 360. In fact I think it deserves to be up there more than IU. Also L4D is on PC.

FP_slomo788

@Doodah: MS is a household name? maybe. You do realize that a MS exec actually admitted they couldn't outsell Nintendo and was fighting for the number 2 spot. MS isn't capable of crushing anyone this generation. The last console to do that was the PS2 which destroy any hope for the competition. Nintendo is so far in front it's not even funny and they did it by not selling to us...the average gamer.

Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.

For those of you out there that wanted the breakdown of the holiday lineup between both consoles in terms of exclusives, here:

Xbox 360:
Infinite Undiscovery
Viva Piñata: Trouble in Paradise
Fable 2
Banjo Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts
Gears of War 2
The Last Remnant
Left 4 Dead

PlayStation 3:
SOCOM: Confrontation
LittleBigPlanet
Resistance 2
Motorstorm: Pacific Rift
WipEout HD
Valkyria Chronicles
Disgaea 3
Home (well... not really a game..)
Bioshock and Eternal Sonata, but those are on Xbox 360 as well.

Well... I'd say they're about even in terms of numbers.

DustySword

The difference in games is just not there. The trend of exclusives seems to be dying by the day. My 360 does just fine. I try to convince myself to get the PS3 for the Blu-Ray, but Netflix and HD movie downloads are the future in my opinion. And $30+ for a blu-ray disc, no thanks.

JohnnyD57333

"the broadest and deepest software lineup in the industry"

That is all.

Jaysunli

@Doodah:
Sorry Sony and Nintendo but Microsoft is the new household name.

...

...

Wow. Fanboy of the year?

DustySword

I think the 360 price cut will move a lot of systems just like when Sony finally does one it will also move systems. But MS may be hitting the magically mass appeal price for their product.

The 199 system has everything one needs to play retail games. You have a wireless controller a memory card to save those games and the system itself. The only gimped feature is the hard drive and since the 120 drive just dropped to 150 I'm sure there will be a 60 for around the 100 mark or lower so really that sort of like being able to buy features for your system in increments. And really for no extra cost so it actually eases entry into 360 gaming for those that can't afford as much at once.Possibly this could even make the features of the elite cheaper with an arcade if you buy a 10 dollar HDMI cable online it would be around 40 cheaper and you would have a memory card to take your profile to friends houses.

I do like the value the 299 system gives and even the PS3 gives. But to some people that just want to play games they don't care about features they will never use. I mean some systems will not even get hooked up to the internet and thus never need the wireless adapter(or Ethernet for that matter) or a hard drive and some will be attached to SD tvs so all the media center and Bluray movie options are a mute point for some individuals.

Konchu

@Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.: Well so far you're not very wrong for Spring 09 either. Ninja Blade and Halo Wars might not be enough to keep the 360 in my room after February tbh.

FP_slomo788

@Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.: DOH! I meant to say "better lineup this fall/christmas..."

Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.

"the broadest and deepest software lineup in the industry,"

I loled at this very hard.

Hopefully Microsoft will crush Nintendo now that everyone realizes what a waste of money the gimmicky Wii is.

Sony is trash now and they have to make up crap to make consumers(and the media) think they're still on top or they're getting back into the top.

Sorry Sony and Nintendo but Microsoft is the new household name.

I used to love Nintendo and hate Microsoft before the Wii.

Now I hope Nintendo goes out of buisness.

Doodah

@RuneX21:
"LBP is a niche title that looks to be boring as hell"

Explain niche. And boring. Have you played it? I mean surely, all those Best of E3 awards must have been wrong for 2 years straight. Platformer = niche? Since when? All that's left to do is advertise it a bunch and Sony could very well sell millions of copies.

Seriously, one of the freshest ideas to come out in a couple of years, and people still complain. Mario anyone? When was the last time we had a GOOD new sidescroller platformer? And not to mention physics based, packed in with Creation tools (which were used to create all 50 levels on the disc) and the ability to share levels all around the world. I don't know how some people still don't "get it" yet.

DustySword

@Aex: This is right before the "holiday" buying frenzy season. There are plenty of parents who want to buy their kids cols stuff, they just don't know what to get. The 6 y/o can't afford the 360, PS3 or Wii.

peacefuloutrage

@RuneX21: ok ok...Fable2, you rip Kz2 for being lackluster first time out the gate but you hype Fable2? Fable sucked ass...it was hyped to hell and never delivered. It wasn't even dammit close. Yet people have been swinging on Fable2's nipple from the same hype machine that boosted the Xbox version. Whatever. Fable2 is suspect until it proves otherwise.

Also, PS3 has a better lineup and the only genre you can say is lacking is RPGs. if you really want to break it down, $199 is a snake oil sale because I don't know anyone that's going to be able to take advantage of that without a HDD. Tag on another $150 bucks on that price pal...No HDD=gimped console

Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.

@RuneX21: So you want diversity but all you want on your 360 are RPGs? Two of which will come to PS3? I'll spare you the list but I'm sure anyone who wants a game of any genre on the PS3 will easily find it among the big name titles.

FP_slomo788

@Aex: You can get rechargable batteries and a docking station for your wiimotes. My wiimotes are always fully charged and ready to go.

robinandtami

@Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.: The PS3 can not be used as a TRUE Windows Media Center extender without some hacking and modding; and even then it would be practically unusable. Most people would not want to risk bricking their PS3 to get that feature.

OTOH, the 360 is an extender right out of the box. All you have to do is plug a code the 360 gives you into your Media Center PC. After that, you can be watching live televison on your 360, get a game invite from a friend, hit the record button on your 360 remote (or if you don't have a 360 remote, the remote that came with your media pc works controls the 360 as well) jump into the game with your friend, then when you are through playing go right back to your show where you left off.

robinandtami

@robinandtami: I prefer the rechargeable controllers to MS's solution, and much MUCH more than the lack of solution Nintendo offers.

Rechargeable battery packs cost money in addition to the controller. Ultimately rising the cost of the controller $10-$15. If you have 4 controllers, like I do, then you have $40-$60 spent on rechargeable batteries. With that you could have bought an extra rechargeable controller to have as backup.

Pro-tip! You can also use some other USB devices to charge your PS3 controllers. Personally, I use my computer. You could use a laptop and even some phone chargers work. I'm not exactly positive, but they might charge even if you plug them into your Xbox 360... Don't hold me to that tho. In fact, I'm going to test that tonight!

Aex

"the broadest and deepest software lineup in the industry"

OK, I'm no hater, but they're fucking high.

justhesh

Is is really prudent to call 199.99 "sub 200 dollars?"

Jesse in Japan

@Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.: I thin