-jumps on new Carmaggedon bandwagon-

That game was too pro.

xeleion

I still also await a new Carmageddon. Goddamn that was such a great game.

Witzbold

I would pay untold wealths for a next-gen Carmageddon.

Gary

@dunetiger reads kotaku, seems pleased: 11 ads per page, one game with one picture and two paragraphs about it per game. Yuck.

Applekid

@dunetiger reads kotaku, seems pleased: I thought my internet connection was to blame. Glad to see it wasn't. =)

What's on the list anyway?

Agentp3t3: I remember it as well. Sigh am I counted as "the old" demographic?

excaliburps

I remember Carmageddon too...even though I was, like, 5 when it came out!

Sotiris

I think Kotaku broke MVCUK.co.uk

ceetronic

I remember Carmageddon.... does that make me old?

Agentp3t3

Man, that site is awful. I get 503s every other click, so I'm not even going to bother trying to get through the whole list. At least Carmageddon made the list - I totally love that game. Played it with a keyboard, too.

"Tell us more stories, Grampa!"

dunetiger reads kotaku, seems pleased

Carmegeddon for XBLM/PSN!!!!

Mr_Ed

-I see your CARMAGEDDON, and raise you THRILL KILL!-

rainofwalrus

-replicates the copies of the dittos of the jumping on the new Carmageddon bandwagon-

stereoa

woulder rather see an updated interstate 76 or whatever that game was called. "like a twisted metal rpg in full 3d, and fully customizable vehicles."

redice

-copies the dittos the jumping of the new Carmageddon bandwagon-

dv8godd

All you Carmageddon lovers, Edge did a great feature on the Making Of it a few months back. Here's an excerpt from it that always makes me laugh:

"This is best seen in the story of Tony, the model for Max Damage and a willing victim of Stainless Games' research. He's the subject of an anecdote that deserves reproduction in its entirety.

"Tony was a kind of general handyman around, but also a nutter," begins Buckland, before Hughes helpfully adds: "Absolutely mental." Buckland continues: "We needed a reference for what someone getting run over looked like, so of course he was the volunteer nutcase and I was driving a half-ton Chevy station wagon at the time. There was a car park outside the office, so we went out there and drove into him repeatedly: he had a piece of cardboard stuck up his shirt, as if that would help. At one stage, Neil was driving, and Tony asked if he could floor it and hit him harder so he could clear the roof. Neil hit him at about 35mph and he went clear through the windscreen! The police turned up because they'd had reports that someone was being run over in a car park, but when they saw the camera and stuff they headed off."

Lane was the man in the passenger seat that day, filming: "It was awesome, but the exposure was set wrong and it was unusable footage. We didn't ask him to do it again." Mr Tony was obviously a hardy type. "The Max Damage footage as well, that was him," continues Buckland. "There's a whiplash action where his head jumped forward - that's because we smashed him across the back of the head with a pool cue. He had a crash helmet on, and said, 'Hit me as hard as you can!'""

[www.edge-online.com]

NunianVonFuch

This is one of the most broken page layouts I've ever seen. Mostly it doesn't even load. And when it does, I find it hard to even make out the article in this mess of ads and sidebars.

lumpi

@Mr_Ed:

Ditto to that, I'd buy it (PSN).

robinhood_0

I'm surprised that Doom and the Columbine massacre were not remembered.

Obli

I always liked Top XX, they can be quite useful picking out games based on a specific idea or something.

MikoKeZ

i remember the exact date i was playing carmageddon, because the rest of my family was watching Diana's funeral.. uhm.

k!dman

"Villianous comedy lawyer Jack Thompson..." *giggle*

sidenote: christ, it is NOT good web coding to have every page in your article pop up in a separate window. go back to HTTP 101.

geekgrrl

@geekgrrl: Good to know that I'm not the only one that annoyed. Worst, it wasn't even consistent. First four were all in the same window, next one spawned a new one, after that two more in the same, and then the rest in new windows. If you're going to be wrong, at least you can be wrong in a consistent and predictable manner.

On a more serious note, Carmageddon 1 was awesome, 2 was better, but 3 was crap. Pedestrians shouldn't die just because they touched you (especially if you're not actually moving at any appreciable speed), and they shoud not be able to survive getting hit at 70+ MPH.

Field Anony-mouse

@k!dman: And I was pvping in a MUD (text-based RPG for you young-uns) at that exact moment.

selectman

Yes! Start a petition or something for Carmageddon. That shit rocked.

Eville1 says SKUse me a sec.

@denki: Oh, and I'm talking about the American's take on Carmageddon- we all know the UK has had a stick up its ass for a long time about that kinda stuff.

denki

Carmageddon etc etc etc etc. If Carmageddon was realeased now it'd be banned in an instant, which is totally weird. As luck would have it videogames back then weren't really even noticed by the mainstream news, thank god.

@Obli: Columbine massacre and others like it (the only other one I can think of right now is that 2 towers invaders game) were nothing but dumb programmers trying to make a name for themselves by producing games that try to piss off the public. They shouldn't ever be listed anywhere having to do with videogames, as they just demean everything associated.

denki

Yeah, 6 different tabs for 6 pages, great!
Also their flash made my machine creak along at 100% CPU usage.

Funny how all of those controversies seem like nothing anymore.

glutto

From the page about America's Army: "The US's trained killers have used radio, TV and the movies to convince kids that it's 'cool' to give up their lives for their country (or their country's low energy costs, at any rate)"

Wow. So I suppose Britain doesn't have a military, then? Or maybe theirs is just not trained to kill people? Oh well, guess I'll go fill up my car with all that cheap gas we pumped out of Kuwait and Iraq and drive my SUV to get some McDonald's to eat while I watch American Idol. Yup, yup. I see that America-bashing is still 'cool'. One can only hope that these smarmy assholes will give it a rest once we give Bush the boot...

MechaTama31

Carmageddon RULED!

i recall attempting to download the demo on my dial-up connection at the time, and being a bit baffled at the 18MB download size. wtf?!

aeonpulse

God damn, I love Carmageddon. The sequel was even better. After that... eh, no. What they should do is re-release Carpocalypse Now on Live Arcade and PSN with full online multiplayer. That would be excellent.

Erwin

I've said it before and I will say it again:

Carmageddon + Burnout Paradise engine = love

GPman

... I get a 404 after the Carmageddon entry

Zugdaga

That site is broken in ways that can only be fixed with a can of lighter fluid and a match.

alzheimers

Only 3 entries...the ones after that are 404!

geminas01

Get a 404 after carmageddon.

Cultivar

I remember playing Nighttrap on the Panasonic 3DO long before it came out on Sega CD. So how come it didn't spur up controversy then?

Monsignor

Carmageddon was awesome! But I highly prefered Carmageddon 2.

Carmageddon 3 was a travesty to the series.

a_pink_poodle

@Monsignor:

I believe there was no controversy about Night Traps 3DO release because only 5 people bought a 3DO :-D

(Though thats still more people than bought a Sega 32X for their Megadrive :-)

ManiacFive

For those who can't get it to load:

1) Night Trap - 1992

2) Mortal Kombat - 1993

3) Carmageddon - 1997

4) 404 not found. Link says "Ubisoft faces America's anti-army"

5) Manhunt - 2004 (the kid who killed another kid, newspaper reported the murderer was a big Manhunt fan, turns out it was the victim.)

6) The Guy Game - 2004 (this one was pretty funny, they accidentally had an under-ager going topless in game. DOH!)

7) Hot Coffee - 2005

8) Manhunt 2 - 2007 - UK ratings board denied rating in the UK, forced to relent.

9) God of War II - 2007 - dead goat promo stunt.

10) Resistance: Fall of Man - 2007 - The Manchester Cathedral debate.

Jordan Lund

@Cultivar: Same here.. big fat 404.

goddessakasha

@MechaTama31: No, Britain has a military... their training must just suck. Reminds me of a line from Spartan:

"What they gotcha teachin' here, young sergeant?"

"Edged weapons, sir. Knife fighting."

"Don't you teach 'em knife fighting. Teach 'em to kill. That way, they meet some son-of-a-bitch who studied knife fighting, they send his soul to hell."

AoE

Honestly, Luke, if this is what you consider "sensible" and "a good read," then I'd be overjoyed to be lumped in with "the usual culprits."

Evilninja

@alzheimers: I completely second that. And maybe add a ninja into the mix to dice things up. And the ninja's on fire.

@AoE: Spartan had so many good lines like that, though the overall movie was alright.

Overall, the list is OK, but as mentioned above by others, those controversies seem pretty pale.

I'd like to see a list of more corporate or personnel controversies or scandals (stuff like the recent Team Ninja affair), or perhaps Sony bullying the retail market during the PS1/PS2 era. A slightly different take, but hopefully a little more interesting.

thespyderboy

@Jordan Lund: thanks, I couldn't get it to load. Sad that Thrill Kill (PS1) gets no love... Even though it's easy to find online.

rainofwalrus

Carmageddon ruled. It still totally beats the pants off of the other demolition games--Twisted Metal, etc.

Petezah

Borked page is borked.
Of the three pages I could see in the website, I only tested Carmageddon a little... but not my type of game.

Did Postal 2 get to that list?

Bokusatsu_Tenshi

@Agentp3t3: No, you're not the only one...

@Bokusatsu_Tenshi: No.

twinturbo2

@ManiacFive: I had one (2 of 5) and Road Rash always seemed far more violent than that game. No mention of Time Killers anywhere either!

Sixxtwo

yeah but we all downloaded the beta of Thrill Kill and played the holy crap out of it

bobcaticus

@RazorandBlade:

it didn't even come out on the playstation.

joeloliol

@rainofwalrus: thrill kill was so horrible hahaha.

RazorandBlade

404

Ice-9

Oh and also, if anyone feels like remaking Quarantine for the 3D0 be my guest. That game had it all! Massive jail planet, taxi drivers, guns, and a %**)ing ejection seat! To be 12 again!

Sixxtwo

Remembering carmageddon does not make you old. Thinking carmageddon is a recent game makes you old. I am old.

wooki

CARMAGEDDON WAS SICK!
is played that game for the first time when I was 5 and it was jst godly, runing over anything in my path and killing all the little goats, cars, and enemies in my path.
great game

NY_nets_in_09

there was nothing really wrong with super columbine massacre rpg except perhaps that it may have disturbed people. actually, ars technica even says it might've been a great game had it not been that the only people who would play wouldn't gain anything from it. there IS a reason it was made though (to help understand what contributed to columbine) although there are certainly some cases of tastelessness among these kinds of games (vtech rpg, i'm looking at you).

that said, the list was more than a little disappointing. i mean, come on. resistance? REALLY??

jamesb2147

Meh

Mactheridon

I still play Carmageddon with the HL:Source upgrade...it's a f'ing sick game. Not even for the fact that you could kill pedestrians, but simply for the joy of the physics of the game. That game had the most epic physics of any other car game I've ever played. The things you could do, and the crashes. Just one of my favorite all-time games.

I've always wondered why don't they just release a prettied up game remake based on the same physics engine. It would sell, no doubt.

AAX