real time strategy
J.K. Simmons Is The Single Best Thing About Red Alert 3
Posted by Luke Plunkett at 1:20 PM on September 12, 2008
Don't believe us? You really should watch this trailer, then. Not sure of the precise moment the Red Alert series went from OTT to OTT, but the timing doesn't matter. Point is, they got there, it was a good idea.
[via Big Download]

Comments (AU Comments · US Comments)
VooDoo
Posted September 12, 2008 5:18 PM
so who has pre-ordered their tickets to the fail train?
*sigh* at the Tanya scene...
hyper
Posted September 12, 2008 10:06 PM
One thing you can do is to not buy it immediately, wait for a crack/cracked version and then buy the game from some cheapo asian place for the cd-key.
Ra is on Seinfeld
Posted 1:51 PM 12/9/08
So far the cast is the best looking around. And it has DRM! Oh nooo! Now i cant install it on all 6 of my computers! Damn you EA! Damn youuuuuuu!
Ra is on Seinfeld
MarkHawk
Posted 1:50 PM 12/9/08
Its hard thinking this takes place between 1950 and current day. I know the story line of Red Alert and it's hard to swallow this time travel mess now. Transformer Helicopter, Ninja Robots, Apple Pie? IDK... I guess the C&C series is my Fantasy Strategy series while company of heroes and world at war are my current more realistic strategy games.
I miss Westwood.
MarkHawk
lwelyk
Posted 1:40 PM 12/9/08
;_; Now I want this even more. The stupid DRM prevents me though, just like with Mass Effect PC.
lwelyk
Sandvich
Posted 1:37 PM 12/9/08
"Easiest thing in the world!"
Sandvich
DigitalHero
Posted 1:36 PM 12/9/08
JK Simmons for President!
DigitalHero
shiner980
Posted 1:32 PM 12/9/08
Yes, all of this over the top style seems to fit the RA universe very nicely. It almost seems a bit childish, but then again, I rather like it more then the overly serious cheesy sci fi that is the tiberium universe. As for the DRM, it seems to be an improvement over Spore's something of a debacle, 5 installs instead of 3, and every uninstall (as long as with internet) gives one install back, ill live with one uninstall before nuking all my programs for regular cleaning.
shiner980
Kirbysuperstar
Posted 1:31 PM 12/9/08
@dsmx: Take your whining elsewhere.
Kirbysuperstar
Thwick
Posted 1:28 PM 12/9/08
Three Cheers for another iteration of Hell March! I love both versions!
Thwick
nitromic
Posted 1:27 PM 12/9/08
I am stoked for this game even with the DRM bullshit you have to put up with. I know a few Securom tricks so it shouldn't be a big deal anyways, even though I am a big hater on the DRM movement.
Anyways I have been waiting for a good RTS since Company of Heroes that fits my personal taste. This game should do well and the fact that it has light requirements means my buddies should be able to run it and we can have some lan fun. RTS games are made for lans!
nitromic
the_silencer
Posted 1:25 PM 12/9/08
Looks awesome but I refuse to play w/ anything other than mouse and keyboard and EA can shove SecuROM up their asses!
the_silencer
leetXcore
Posted 1:25 PM 12/9/08
Those damn commie bastards.
leetXcore
phantomlink
Posted 1:25 PM 12/9/08
I do loves me some of that apple pie... Game looks great, but i'm still leaning more towards Tiberium and whenever they make a C&C4... GDI/NOD IS Command and Conquer to me
phantomlink
dsmx
Posted 1:24 PM 12/9/08
No matter what they do I will not be buying RA3 you want to put DRM on games? The fuck you I will not part with a single penny to fund your DRM.
Then just to confuse me even more they release RA as an iso for everyone but securom doesn't like anything that creates a virtual drive. Does anyone at EA have a brain?
dsmx
LastFace
Posted 1:23 PM 12/9/08
Oh my god.
YES.
LastFace
FeatherNET
Posted 1:23 PM 12/9/08
That was entertaining. Apple pie!
FeatherNET
MrZeO
Posted 1:23 PM 12/9/08
RA3 FTW!!!!! RA2 was the best in the series, hope this one gets an amazing gameplay as it, loved the beta :D
MrZeO
lwelyk
Posted 2:18 PM 12/9/08
@zeroknight: RTSs on consoles such. You're right, I'm silly for WANTING TO USE WHAT I PAID $50 FOR. I'm sorry, I just realized how stupid I was. I've never pirated anything, and I'm not going to pirate this. This doesn't stop pirates, and it only hurts the consumers. That's what DRM is, disrespect for the consumers. And not supporting them is a great idea, it'll show people don't want to deal with it.
Also that last statement was the dumbest thing I have ever read. I'm as bad as a pirate, because I'm not paying for something? Nice to know every single gamer on the planet is just as bad as a pirate. I mean, I seriously doubt you've bought every game ever made.
lwelyk
Hengst2404
Posted 2:16 PM 12/9/08
@lwelyk: Seriously? You won't buy a game because of DRM? You feel like you are treated like a criminal whenever you have to deal with it? Seriously? I have heard some interesting arguments over the years against DRM, but this one sounds a bit.....lame?
Here is an idea, if you have a game with Red Alert 3 on it....don't uninstall it. Or don't do it more than the 5 times they have the DRM there for. You know you can get them to reset it, its not like five times and then you are out of a game you paid for.
STorage space is so cheap these days, deal with it, the game won't be THAT big.
Hengst2404
JetPogi
Posted 2:16 PM 12/9/08
I wish I could play this on my PC but alas I could only play using 360 without mouse T_T
JetPogi
zeroknight
Posted 2:09 PM 12/9/08
If you hate DRM so much buy the console version and stop crying. If you can't stand RTS on console then stop pirating games on the PC. Companies have to do something about the ease of getting a pirated PC title. You can't blame them and you shouldn't NOT support the companies by not buying a game cuz of something as silly as DRM.
IMO, you're just as bad as the pirate for not buying something because of DRM because either way, you're still not paying them shit.
zeroknight
Stormrider
Posted 2:02 PM 12/9/08
Man I hope the 360 version has a decent control scheme, because this probably won't run on my laptop and I really, really want to play it.
Stormrider
lwelyk
Posted 1:59 PM 12/9/08
@Ra is on Seinfeld: That's not the problem, the problem is I don't like being treated like a criminal, and RTSs I routinely install and uninstall. I play them on and off again, and I really don't want to have to have it on my hardrive at all times. Also SecuROM is evil.
lwelyk
ElReyMysterioso-PBUH
Posted 2:36 PM 12/9/08
@zeroknight: In what kind of bizzarro universe do consumers have to buy products and someone is as bad as a pirate for refusing to buy it? Are you mildly retarded or just drunk? I'll be tossing unopened Spore preorder back at BestBuy this weekend, and I'll gleefully skip any other game with limited activations.
ElReyMysterioso-PBUH
Dopeski
Posted 2:28 PM 12/9/08
I'm not a huge RTS fan, but I think I'll be buying this game just because a) it's a new Red Alert game and b)it has kick ass cinematics.
Dopeski
lwelyk
Posted 2:22 PM 12/9/08
@Hengst2404: What would you call being forced to call up EA and explain to them why you needed to install it again? They start off assuming that you are going to copy it, that's assuming your'e a criminal.
"You know you can get them to reset it, its not like five times and then you are out of a game you paid for."
You've obviously never tried to use EAs tech support.
"Here is an idea, if you have a game with Red Alert 3 on it....don't uninstall it. Or don't do it more than the 5 times they have the DRM there for. You know you can get them to reset it, its not like five times and then you are out of a game you paid for."
So you're saying deal with them drastically limiting what I use the product I paid for. Deal with the SecuROM which can cause serious problems. Deal with people who do steal actually being able to use the product. Good idea.
lwelyk
pylon_trooper
Posted 3:09 PM 12/9/08
JK Simmons...I just see Vern Shillinger sitting in that President's chair. Man, he was great in Oz.
pylon_trooper
diablofreak
Posted 3:06 PM 12/9/08
JK Simmons is such a good actor
he can play a crazy newspaper editor (Spider man) or a similar character here in Red Alert
and then he can be a quieter police chief (The closer)
or a dad or a teenage preggo girl (Juno)
diablofreak
HepCat
Posted 3:03 PM 12/9/08
They dont like applepie???!!!
Nuke'em! NUKE'EM I SAY!!!
HepCat
yakkowarner
Posted 3:03 PM 12/9/08
DRM is a ruse to stop secondary markets and legal life extension of the product.
They know full well it won't stop any copyright infringers. They just want to control the software post retail and march all over their paying customers.
MR. R is laughing at the people buying into it.
yakkowarner
yakkowarner
Posted 2:58 PM 12/9/08
I also won't be buying it due to internet activation, limited activations, ect. Also ditto elrey that is a bizzaro concept of zerokinghts. P.S. Don't be telling me that Steam is a roses and chocolate either. Its not it is just as bad.
BTW when is someone going to pester Mr. Levine about his Bio-Shock patch to remove the internet activation?
[www.bit-tech.net]
its been a year are sales still hott? or was it just hott air?
yakkowarner
thelegendofzaku
Posted 2:55 PM 12/9/08
Even though the game kicks serious ass, it sucks that I'm avoiding this one on my PC like the plague, thanks EA and your jive ass, trifling, greed tactics, treating honest folks who were ready at the helm to drop cash on this game like the pirates that you think you're defeating. I would of loved to run it on my 8800GTS 512 with my 20" flatty, but thanks to SecuROM's ball-busting irrevocable install limits, I guess I'll have to get used to the lack of a mouse and keyboard to dole out commands to my little troops when I reluctantly get this for my 360.
If Spore can get its DRM completely stripped in three days time and get leaked two days before launch, wouldn't that hint them that they're force-feeding us snake oil while Sony runs laughing to the bank, making money off of software that's essentially as permeable as a broken condom? Also, no way am I paying $50 for what's essentially a rental, I can go to blockbuster or GameFly and get that shit for a fraction of the price. EA, get back to me when you stop being the money-whoring assholes that you are, and the pig called SecuROM has enough lipstick already, jeez >_> ...
thelegendofzaku
Rask
Posted 2:49 PM 12/9/08
Send those commies to their mommies.. Classic!
Rask
Mastrix
Posted 3:35 PM 12/9/08
it's also a matter of being distrusted for paying 50 bucks for the game. Yes, people will still buy it. It's only because it's impossible to organize enough people to not buy it for it to make an impact. EA will have the upper hand in sales always. You can't stop them by trying to not buy it.
Mastrix
syafiqjabar
Posted 3:27 PM 12/9/08
Here is something I can share: I buy original games only. Sometimes my friend will install my game on his computer. But if I am away, he won't have the CD/DVD he needs to play. So he downloads cracks for those games.
Isn't there any where I can get crack for my original games? That way, we can still buy original but don't have to put up with all this DRM bull.
syafiqjabar
Mastrix
Posted 3:26 PM 12/9/08
@zeroknight: Doesn't really work that way....if the game is released for a platform, we should get to play it while we own it.... not for 5 installs or so if the comp crashes or some BS like that.
Pirates have their own agenda, but someone who legitimately buys the game should be entitled to the game they payed for. End of story.
Mastrix
mva5580
Posted 3:25 PM 12/9/08
This game looks great. Might have to pick it up.
And to all the "I don't like being treated like a criminal idiots," get a clue.
Most clothing stores have security devices on the clothes. Do you shop there? Gamestop/Wal-Mart/Best Buy/Every gaming store keeps their games locked up behind a case and you have to go to one of them to purchase it. Do you feel treated like a "criminal" because of that? Do you refuse to shop in any store that has surveillance cameras?
Grow the F up.
mva5580
theEnemy
Posted 3:59 PM 12/9/08
Is it me or is it just Tanya is hot ? Damn Hot.
theEnemy
concrete_d
Posted 3:55 PM 12/9/08
@mva5580:
Are you forced to take clothing security tags home with you, and do they make sure no one wears the clothes but you?
concrete_d
The Magnificen7
Posted 3:55 PM 12/9/08
Awesome freakin' possum. J.K. Simmons is great. And Jenny McCarthy? Daaaaaaaaamnnnnnn.
The Magnificen7
BenKenobi88
Posted 3:54 PM 12/9/08
You guys realize if you don't buy this game, that'll be it for Red Alert?
I mean, DRM sucks, but you're not going to support the good games? Just buy the game and whine like hell to EA, they'll probably fix it.
BenKenobi88
Cagny
Posted 3:43 PM 12/9/08
@dsmx: "I will not part with a single penny to fund your DRM."
Commie!
Cagny
Yenzilla
Posted 3:38 PM 12/9/08
More like 'J.K. Simmons Is The Single Best Thing About *EVERYTHING*'. Am I right, or am I right?
Yenzilla
Soldier_CLE
Posted 4:26 PM 12/9/08
@mva5580:
I'll pick this arguement up...
The issue is not "if the game as a matter of surveillance". The issue is whether or not SecuROM (or other DRM-related systems that are similar in design) defeat the purpose of operant conditioning towards purchases. (i.e; buying the game and being penalized by limited to install the game five times from purchase.)
For those of us who disagree with the method, we hardly believe that it has ANYTHING to do with surveillance; since it would be easy to surmise that games like World of Warcraft, Tabula Rasa, and other games that require online play can (at least in theory) detect and monitor gameplay; while ensuring that you are not playing with a pirated copy.
So, before you start grossly conjecting WHY people (like me) don't wish to support a draconian DRM system, it would be prudent of you to figure out WHY WE DON'T CARE FOR SECUROM.
Because your surveillance metaphor is nothing short of laughable in my opinion.
Now... about growing up... Adults can extrapolate within reason. Why haven't YOU? (Before you tell someone to grow up, look yourself in the mirror...)
@lwelyk: You've hit it on the nail.
The fact is that SecuROM will *NOT* stop piracy, but will deter people from buying the game. If a person knew off-hand that (out of the box) you are limited to 5 installs, would they make the purchase? Even if you can increase the number of installd from calling some 800 number, would you want to go through the hassle; knowing that you already paid your hardearned cash for the game to begin with, while knowing that Joey [and Susy] Crackpot don't have to go through that hassle, while downloading it from "FockEm' Torrent LOLLCATZ?"
@lwelyk: Again, well put. Couldn't say it better myself.
NOW FOR MY OWN COMMENTARY IN A FEW WORDS:
"It's HIGHLY IRONIC to show a trailer that is supposed to exude free enterprise and capitalism, when EA itself is imposing a PSEUDO-FORM OF 'STATE-LIKE CONTROL', WITH SECUROM, which is mostly COMMUNIST-IN-PRACTICE."
Soldier_CLE
Shijirou
Posted 4:26 PM 12/9/08
Freedom! Liberty! And the best of 'em all.. APPLE PIE!!! FTW!!!
Shijirou
cy-rano
Posted 4:25 PM 12/9/08
@theEnemy: I prefer the british girl.Or the girl in the brown outfit (russian?) in that video
[www.gametrailers.com]
Clearly, RA is taking the good old route of T&A... a bit cheap, but the series has always been deliciously corny, so I don't personally mind... i like the cheese more than the faux-serious/real-cheese that is C&C, as someone said above.
And man, Hellmarch was such an awesome theme...
[www.gametrailers.com]
does anyone if mouse will be supported for 360? (i believe it's not coming to the ps3 anymore, right?)
cy-rano
DraGooN001
Posted 4:22 PM 12/9/08
@rekenner: I thought one can get installs refunded by uninstalling while connected to the internet?
Even so now I am thinking it is a little more inconvenient than I originally thought. For instance, Blizzard games allows one to retain information such as custom maps and campaign progress after uninstalls, so when I reinstall a Blizzard game I get that data back. I am hoping RA3 offers this same service, because it will be very stupid if I have to play through the campaign(s) all over again each time I uninstall and reinstall.
DraGooN001
Rocci1212
Posted 4:18 PM 12/9/08
JK Simmons is close, but this is tough to top:
[kotaku.com]
Rocci1212
flukielukie
Posted 4:18 PM 12/9/08
Wow could people just STFU about the DRM, It can be dealt with by any intelligent person here. Besides I'm getting the 360 version after playing every single Command and Conquer game + expansion on the PC except 3 which I played on 360.
360 is perfectly fine for the controls.
Besides I need the game to go with my Gemma Atkinson theme.
flukielukie
rekenner
Posted 4:15 PM 12/9/08
Also, it seems like you people haven't heard about SecuROM.
If you update your computer, THAT COUNTS AS AN INSTALL.
If you reformat your computer and reinstall on your machine, the same one, THAT COUNTS AS AN INSTALL.
If you update your OS (XP -> Vista -> Whatever is hopefully soon to replace Vista), THAT COUNTS AS AN INSTALL.
Also, if you have more than one user account on a machine (Which you should if you follow good security practices), it only works for the account you installed it under! Have 3 people using a computer that want to play it? Hope you never upgrade your computer!
rekenner
DraGooN001
Posted 4:15 PM 12/9/08
5 installs for RA3 doesn't sound like such a bad deal at the moment, as there are 3 people in my household that will ever play it anyway. Having to be online for installs or uninstalls could be fairly inconvenient, as well as having to uninstall SecuROM protected programs before reformatting my computer.
However my greatest concern is directly with SecuROM. Googling and wiking SecuROM gives me information about SecuROM and rootkits, SecuROM protected programs crashing, programs not affiliated with SecuROM crashing, SecuROM staying installed even after uninstalling programs which came with SecuROM... Basically it seems like SecuROM doesn't play nice.
I want to play RA3 and I will likely go and buy it eventually. But what would be the best way for me to deal with SecuROM? Anyone else want to share first hand experiences with SecuROM?
DraGooN001
Yas
Posted 4:12 PM 12/9/08
shame that it's DRM'd, otherwise would've bought this on release date. But I personally am formatting so many times, that I cba to call EA everytime I want to install the game.
Yas
rekenner
Posted 4:11 PM 12/9/08
DRM I'm good with. Draconian DRM that, with the amount of tinkering I do with my machine, will say "lol no" to me being able to play a game I legally bought in a year? Hell no.
Also, to the headline: GEORGE TAKEI. I win.
rekenner
thelegendofzaku
Posted 4:07 PM 12/9/08
@mva5580: Trying to compare present day PC games containing draconian style DRM like SecuROM, which EA uses to completely piss on the first sale doctrine, with the security devices found in articles of clothing in stores are two completely seperate things. The former's security measures limits the number of times you can ever install, thus severely restricting if not eliminating ownership down to a rental, so its number of uses are statically set and can't be reupped without jumping through the perils and costs of EA's piss poor tech support, always assuming that the caller is guilty of being a pirate first, while the latter actually does its job of alerting security of a shoplifting and gets removed by the store once you buy the said article of clothing, allowing you to wear it as many times as you want. In other words, one permanently limits the number of times it can ever be used when changing a video card for example, while the other is only there temporarily on the item until it gets sold.
thelegendofzaku
kojirodensetsu
Posted 4:46 PM 12/9/08
I thought we were all in agreement earlier on the Spore thing that DRM/SecuRom is bad and shouldn't be tolerated. What's with all the pro-DRM comments here?
I'll be picking this up for the 360. Oh and Gemma Atkinson is hot.
kojirodensetsu
tzaketh
Posted 4:45 PM 12/9/08
Wasn't going to buy it.
Am going to buy it now.
I damn straight have the sack to stick it to those Commie bastards, especially if Apple Pie is at stake.
tzaketh
DraGooN001
Posted 4:45 PM 12/9/08
@thelegendofzaku: Oh wow... I thought reclaiming installs was something that SecuROM itself offered. In the event that those installs really are linear then this is certainly not quite as okay as I had originally thought =[
DraGooN001
royaljester
Posted 4:34 PM 12/9/08
That was awsome - use of the word sack, commie, and apple pie have got me pumped for this game's cutscenes.
royaljester
honeybuttertoast
Posted 4:33 PM 12/9/08
I'm with a lot of people here - I would definitely be pre-ordering this if it wasn't for the DRM. Why can't they listen to the people who would actually like to buy this game with no DRM? Seriously, what's wrong with regular copy protection that forces you to have the DVD in the drive or something? That way the average joe can't give copies to his friend, and there are far more happy customers.
It's going to be pirated whether it has regular copy protection or this stupid DRM, so why bother going with the stupid option? I just don't get it.
honeybuttertoast
thelegendofzaku
Posted 4:31 PM 12/9/08
@DraGooN001: Well that depends on the implementation. The way 2K Games did it with Bioshock when they had the SecuROM install limits was that they released a revocation tool that would refund an install, which means that if you had to reinstall Windows for example, or you had to do some hardware upgrades, you would have the option of de-authorizing your PC and regain an install. However, that hasn't been the case with EA, since the way they have it set it up for ME, Spore, and RA3 is that the install limit is linear (one-way) with no option to reclaim a used install, and the only way to gain more is if you can prove your innocence to their skeptical tech support reps.
thelegendofzaku
Soldier_CLE
Posted 4:27 PM 12/9/08
@flukielukie: Umm... NO... NOT EVER.
Soldier_CLE
NovaBlack
Posted 5:11 PM 12/9/08
Right..
@ DraGooN001 and
@ thelegendofzaku
the DRM system for RA3 has been confirmed and its WORSE than spore
chek out the post by DEV 'eaSmudge (C&C)' on the official forums at
[forums.ea.com]
ORIGINALLY he said the game was 5 installs, getting tokens back when you uninstall. BUT LATER CLARIFIED WITH
'Re: So what's the deal with copy protection in Red Alert 3?
Posted:Sep 9, 2008 1:18 AM in response to: ScrinCommando (... Reply Alert
Quick update. As many conversations as I've had about this, it turns out I got an important detail wrong so I need to clarify something important.
AN UNINSTALL DOES NOT RETURN AN ENTITLEMENT TO THE USER. I'll be updating my original post to reflect this.
Only five unique machines can be licensed with the same installation code. So you will be limited to a total of five machine activations.
However, we will ensure that nobody gets left in the lurch. Our customer service organization is committed to granting additional authorizations on a case- by-case basis for those folks who have good reason to need additional installs.
I am really sorry about the confusion, guys. I asked several people about this and thought I had it down, but obviously didn't. Totally my bad.
'
oops.. so RA3 has 5 installs MAX AND NO WAY TO GET INSTALL TOKENS BACK. so thats actually WORSE than spore.
SCREW EA. i am SO SO SO gutted right now cos i want this game. BUT i wont pay for it, i still install the old Red alert now. WAY more than 5 lifetime installs. And i wont be limited with this and have to call a PREMIUM RATE NUMBER to beg for activation. Oh and trust them to ACTUALLY activate it.
NovaBlack
tzaketh
Posted 4:55 PM 12/9/08
@tzaketh:
And I just won't be using SecuROM.
tzaketh
NovaBlack
Posted 5:39 PM 12/9/08
@ antisniper
Yeah but your missing an important point. And please calling people 'turds' doesnt really add weight to your argument.
Yeah you can choose not to buy the cake. As i will choose with the RA3 cake. BUT it becomes more problematic when more and more bakers start baking camera-cakes. If nobody speaks up, soon ALL cakes will be camera-cakes. And then what? you cant take your business elsewhere. With EA being one of the larges bakers in the world , and snapping up lots and lots of smaller bakers every day, that reality becomes nearer and nearer.
Oh and as for your comment
: 'cant we just focus on the game rather than the drm?'
um your missing the point. You cant treat these things as seperate. the DRM IS part of the product you buy. AND when im limited ot how many times i can install the game BECAUSE of DRM, and caused hardware problems by securom, then i cant ignore that as my enjoyment of the game is LIMITED AS A DIRECT CONSEQUENCE.
@L_K_M
DEFINITELY agree with you guys on the whole use of this crap is to stop second hand sales. As a game developer myself, we all know its the real reason behind it. If you want proof, just ask yourself about spore. If pirates have already have the game out there for download then ask yourself, why hasnt the securom stuff been patched out?. Because they know that alot of the lost sales due to DRM will be made up by people buying it who would normally buy second hand, thus cutting the publisher/retailer/developer out of the profit pie.
NovaBlack
L_K_M
Posted 5:35 PM 12/9/08
@antisniper asked: "For crying out loud, can't we just focus on the game rather than DRM? If you don't like it, don't buy it"
The point of discussing DRM is to educate people how it works before they buy it precisely so they can not buy it. So no, we can't just "focus on the game rather than DRM", because DRM is part of the game.
"Its [sic] like you people are looking for an excuse to pirate the game."
No. Even though I would like to play it, I will neither buy nor pirate the game until this DRM mess is fixed and I actually can buy a working, non-broken copy of it.
L_K_M
L_K_M
Posted 5:27 PM 12/9/08
@yakkowarner wrote: "DRM is a ruse to stop secondary markets and legal life extension of the product."
And we have a winner. The funny thing is that so many gamers actually support this shit. You're just gluttons for punishment, aren't you? How about holding back your consumer instincts for a few months and actually not buying these games, so we can go back to having non-useless PC games? I know not constantly buying shit is hard, but at least make an attempt?
L_K_M
antisniper
Posted 5:22 PM 12/9/08
DRM this, DRM that, DRM the whole world. For crying out loud, can't we just focus on the game rather than DRM? If you don't like it, don't buy it, don't give EA the money to support them. Get over it. You know what the product contains, you decide whether to buy it or not.
Say for instance, I spike a cake with a spy camera and knowingly tell you about it. Thats DRM, you can buy the cake, or live without it. Like DRM, the camera is removal with a chainsaw, in this case, the internet, install the game, download crack to bypass the online activation, use cd key to play online, done. Why are all you turds talking on and on when you have the information to make an informed choice as well as the option to remove it once you get it? Its like you people are looking for an excuse to pirate the game.
antisniper
NovaBlack
Posted 5:20 PM 12/9/08
Oh the irony being you have to prove on the phone to EA your a genuine customer and not a pirate.
WHY WOULD I BE CALLING YOU EA, IF I WAS A PIRATE. IF I WAS A PIRATE I WOULD HAVE THE GAME CRACKED AND SECUROM FREE AND WOULDNT NEED TO CALL YOU!
Using a tiny bit of brain power surely its clear to see that anybody who rings up MUST be a legit customer, as (if anything like spore) the game will be cracked days before release anyway, so pirates dont need to jump through these hoops. bloody ridiculous
NovaBlack
L_K_M
Posted 5:19 PM 12/9/08
@Kirbysuperstar: Why should he take his whining elsewhere? He has a valid criticism of the game we're discussing in this thread.
@Ra is on Seinfeld: You're missing the point. I'm still playing Warcraft, Starcraft and Total Annihilation. These games came out years ago. In the meantime, I bought probably a dozen new computers.
What's more, the DRM is insulting, because it treats paying customers like thieves, while thieves get the "full" product without any of this crap.
L_K_M
Shirleycakes
Posted 5:46 PM 12/9/08
Dude. DRM sucks but for stalin's sake, can we get back on point here? JK Simmons and fucking Apple PIE.
Shirleycakes
MrBabyMan
Posted 5:45 PM 12/9/08
Was that Johnathan Pryce?
MrBabyMan
TearsandScreams
Posted 6:20 PM 12/9/08
This really does look awesome, but another who wont be buying it here (and I won't pirate either).
TearsandScreams
Crabfeast
Posted 6:14 PM 12/9/08
I'm willing to be his prag, anytime.
Crabfeast
chuckbb
Posted 6:43 PM 12/9/08
This is kinda rad, it reminds me of those pack in discs that came with PC GAME magazines in the early 90s when they first created quicktime and there were all those terrible games with Quicktime vids of "real" actors, including that Asian broad from Wayne's World, Oh yeah and who could forget the Christopher Walken game The Reaper. i miss those days when i had to spend $400 to the additional 6 MEGS of ram so I could play doom on my 486.
chuckbb
joeloliol
Posted 7:11 PM 12/9/08
ahaha. pretty sweet. although personally, im more interested in the gameplay than the cutscenes.. but maybe thats just me.
joeloliol
Fauxe
Posted 7:02 PM 12/9/08
cutscenes and cutscenes WITH Tanya are the reasons why i play red alert
Fauxe
judacris
Posted 7:32 PM 12/9/08
I can't see him as any other character.
"Listen up. I need Photos. Photos of Spider-Man!"
judacris
Sevius
Posted 7:54 PM 12/9/08
You know, I've never bought a Command & Conquer game. (I'm more of a Age of Empires kind of guy, myself.) but I can't let such artistry go unrewarded. Time to pre-order.
Sevius
DukeOfPwn
Posted 8:57 PM 12/9/08
If you guys want to bitch about SecuROM, get the D2D or Steam versions. I'm sick and tired of your complaining about it. Does it look like EA cares? Plenty other people will buy the damn game! You'll just be kicking yourself in the privates, because it'll be a good game!
DukeOfPwn
L_K_M
Posted 8:43 PM 12/9/08
@chuckbb: Her name is Tia Carrere, and the game was called "The Deadalus Encounter." It was actually a reasonably good game; at the time, many people thought all games would end up being like that, and actors would mainly make games instead of movies.
L_K_M
Hardcore
Posted 10:09 PM 12/9/08
Jenna Jameson as the Allied Commando. Hmm. Guess there's a hidden bukkake level.
I love J.K. Simmons though. My wife and I are big fans of "The Closer."
Hardcore
Calavera302
Posted 9:58 PM 12/9/08
The control scheme on C&C3 for the 360 was actually really good.
As someone who hates PC gaming (Wrist injuries prevent me from using a mouse/keyboard any more than I have to) I'm glad that it's coming to the console.
Also, why should I play it on a 19" monitor when I have a 46" HDTV a few feet away?
Calavera302
Strangelove
Posted 10:24 PM 12/9/08
@Strangelove:
He was
Need my coffee
Strangelove
Strangelove
Posted 10:24 PM 12/9/08
That's no surprise, he's was hilarious in Juno.
Strangelove
magnakaiser
Posted 11:28 PM 12/9/08
Everyone DOES know if you actually uninstall the game while connected to the internet (and who isn't online 24/7?) it gives you back the install, right? The only way to really use up all 5 is if your PC crashes like 5 times with it installed.
DRM suck and all, mainly due to SecuROM being crazy, but I find it funny that the idea of DRM gets all this crap thrown at it while people idolize Steam. Steam is essentially another form of it. The games technically take online activation and everything, the only change is that your hard drive can die 16 times and you can still have the game easily available; which while better is basically the same thing everyone is on some moral high ground against.
magnakaiser
Thanatos
Posted 12:46 AM 13/9/08
Well EA fucked up and are keeping SecuROM in the game even after the shitstorm that was caused when Spore contained it as well. And for that i will not be buying RA3 which is really sad as i still play RA2, Loved that game.
Thanatos
DraGooN001
Posted 2:21 AM 13/9/08
@magnakaiser: Actually that concept seems to be incorrect, at least for RA3 specifically. Please see thelegendofzaku's and NovaBlack's posts for additional information. It seems as though for Bio Shock, a separate program was required in order to reclaim installs, and NovaBlack's post has a link to and a copy of an offical EA developer's comment about SecuROM implementation for RA3.
DraGooN001
milkfilk
Posted 2:13 AM 13/9/08
@concrete_d: Good point with the metaphor.
milkfilk
EmpressInYellow
Posted 3:03 AM 13/9/08
Every time I see a new Red Alert 3 trailer with Simmons, I keep expecting to see the president engage in prison rape with some poor guy and then burn a swastika on to his naked flesh.
Then he yells "Parker!" and dispenses some quirky, home-spun wisdom to his pregnant teenage daughter.
EmpressInYellow
agentgray
Posted 2:53 AM 13/9/08
Love Jenny's innuendo about messes and what she's doing when when says it. Tanya? sigh.
agentgray
Hengst2404
Posted 4:46 AM 13/9/08
Hey you guys are all right. If you want to miss out on a great game like Red Alert 3 due to hangups with DRM, then it is your loss. Vote with your wallets and if you are loud enough, EA will listen. It is far more likely that the majority of the C&C install base will buy the game DRM or not and EA will continue with business as usual.
I do not fault them for DRM, it is their way, however feeble, to protect their property. The notion that an honor system works is silly and worst case scenario, you wont be able to use pirated copies for online multiplayer, which is what many folks really love.
Hengst2404
yakkowarner
Posted 5:19 AM 13/9/08
@mangakaiser
yakkowarner at 10:58 PM on 09/11/08
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I also won't be buying it due to internet activation, limited activations, ect. Also ditto elrey that is a bizzaro concept of zerokinghts. P.S. Don't be telling me that Steam is a roses and chocolate either. Its not. It is just as bad.
see what I did there?
yakkowarner
MeanMillz
Posted 5:09 AM 13/9/08
Feels very Starship Troopers - the movie - which I like.
"Would you like to know more?"
MeanMillz
JAGJEET
Posted 6:08 AM 13/9/08
@EmpressInYellow: AHAHAH same. I saw him from Oz first and my perspective of him has never changed.
JAGJEET
JAGJEET
Posted 6:07 AM 13/9/08
I'll be torrenting this since EA let me down by not releasing it on PS3. My PC can barely handle games as it is, and took the final blow of HDD space when I bought Spore. Fuck EA.
JAGJEET
antisniper
Posted 9:20 AM 13/9/08
... Its EA's fault that your HDD is full. Is it just me or is it that your running out of excuses to pirate the game. To empty the HDD, uninstall some programs. That isn't very hard.
antisniper
lwelyk
Posted 9:35 AM 13/9/08
@antisniper: Okay, there's the problem of this will be the fourth game from EA to feature this. If you want to be a PC gamer, you'll have to have half your harddrive devoted to EA games, because they say you're only allowed to install them when they say it's okay.
Plus secuROM causes problems, ect. You can't defend this DRM. A simple serial key would work for this, because of how big the multiplayer is. I can deal with CD keys. I can deal with disc-in-the-drive. I'm not going to deal with this crap.
lwelyk
Placentasaurus
Posted 9:34 AM 13/9/08
This is awesome.
Placentasaurus
rewolf31
Posted 10:07 AM 13/9/08
That hell march mix got me going =/
But screw the drm, maybe ill just PIRATE IT INSTEAD AS A FORM OF PROTEST or something.
rewolf31
ヨシダさん 25
Posted 3:39 PM 13/9/08
Oh noes! DRM! I can't install the game more than FIVE times. What shallz I eva do?
Seriously - no one gives a damn if you don't buy the game, that just means more copies for the rest of us.
Spore. Bought
RA3. Bought.
Freak yeah.
ヨシダさん 25
PATSCRU
Posted 5:51 PM 13/9/08
Just saw him in Burn After Reading. He has a small role, but arguably the most important one, and he's FUCKING HILARIOUS. It's an amazing movie if you haven't checked it out.
PATSCRU