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Ken Levine's Role In the Bioshock Movie Is...
Posted by Brian Ashcraft at 12:00 AM on September 17, 2008
Yes, yes, game movies suck. Everybody knows that! So whenever a big time video game is turned into a big time movie, all we can do is grit our teeth and hope that it doesn't suck too much. When it was announced that Bioshock was going to be a movie, many thought, hey, this might have a chance to make the cinematic leap in a positive way. The story and the universe do seem very amicable to film. Then it was announced that Pirates of the Caribbean director Gore Verbinski would be helming the project and the wind was taken out of everyone's sails. Sure, he turned a Disneyland ride into a movie, but as the franchise continued on, his ability (or rather inability) to tell a proper story became readily apparent. But Ken Levine isn't going to get in Verbinski's way while the director and writer John Logan. Rather, Levine describes his role:
My job there is to be a friend to Gore and John, be a resource for them and kick ideas around with them. At the end of the day John's the writer and Gore's the director. I'm not the traffic cop. They've been so respectful of the material and they're fans of the material — neither of these guys have to make any movie, they're both hugely successful in their fields, and for a guy like Gore Verbinski to go and make a Bioshock movie, that's a choice he makes. He's not in a place where he doesn't get to pick what assignments come to him. Same with John. So my job is not to watch over them, it's to say "hey guys, what can I do to help?" We've been talking some and it seems to me that these guys really are the right guys to be doing this.
Let's hope so, Ken. Let's hope so.

Comments (AU Comments · US Comments)
Ben
Posted September 17, 2008 12:42 PM
Please find a new picture of this man, I am so very very tired of seeing this one.
Sunjammer
Posted 12:24 AM 17/9/08
@squinko: I absolutely loved the good ending to Bioshock. It came a little abruptly is all.
Bioshock, if you strip away all the fancy words, is a game about family. I thought the ending was poignant.
Sunjammer
Lord Thayer
Posted 12:21 AM 17/9/08
Weird, all of my friends and I really love the Pirates trilogy, especially the third part.
Lord Thayer
squinko
Posted 12:21 AM 17/9/08
@DragonYen:
There are two endings for Bioshock based on how you interacted with the Little Sisters. But you brought up an interesting point. I'd love to see which ending that they choose to do; probably the "nice" one since everyone seemed to enjoy that one better. I personally thought it went better with the story than the "bad" one did.
squinko
Poo_and_Weeeee
Posted 12:19 AM 17/9/08
I hate that there's going to be a movie, I think it compromises the evolution of storytelling in games, especially since BioShock is absolutely on the cutting edge of storytelling. Turning it into a movie says to me "Oh it's not good enough telling the story in game, it's not a respected enough medium to be taken seriously".
Poo_and_Weeeee
stupid_mcgee
Posted 12:17 AM 17/9/08
@Kanik:
Different strokes for different folks. One of my best pals liked the MK movie. I thought it was a seizure-inducingly abysmal celluloid travesty.
Dunno, this could be good. I don't hold high hopes, though, given the track record of so many game-to-movie adaptions.
stupid_mcgee
VicViper
Posted 12:16 AM 17/9/08
Bioshock probably would make a better movie than a game, if handled properly. The game's story had a great setup, but it just didn't execute as well as most people think.
Take out the monotonous gameplay, give the main character half a personality, and if you could smooth out the absurdities and nonsense of the last half of the game, you MIGHT have something.
Still, not holding my breath.
VicViper
PsycheE
Posted 12:15 AM 17/9/08
John Logan?, the "Last Samurai", "Aviator", John Logan?.
They couldn't get a legit writer but an overpaid hack?
Uh-oh, get ready for a cheap thrill and vomit inducing climax because those were the fucking times...
PsycheE
FanDam
Posted 12:14 AM 17/9/08
Verbinski is great. Ash, I think you're in the minority with your opinion.
FanDam
BlueWizard422
Posted 12:13 AM 17/9/08
@DragonYen: Since you just finished it, you might not know tha there are 2 ending. Wonder which one you're referring to...
BlueWizard422
deadjesterx
Posted 12:12 AM 17/9/08
Ummm, yeah, sorry Mr. Levine. I love your games but I'm not holding my breath.
@Kanik: I use to think that, remembered the movie being pretty fun when I was a kid. Then I watched it again a couple of months ago.
My childhood memories were shattered. :( You can actually see the cloth backdrop when they are on the ship wavering from the wind.
deadjesterx
MikoKeZ
Posted 12:12 AM 17/9/08
@Kanik: The first Mortal Kombat movie WAS pretty good although I don't think that counts though cos the game sucks. The second proved as well that the first was a fluke.
MikoKeZ
Asbestos_Underwear
Posted 12:11 AM 17/9/08
So we will get a 2h action movie with as much shootouts as humanly possible, some running away from flashfloods and some psychic powers. Amidst all that I am sure there is just enough room to cramp a romance into it. While the game has long hours to slowly develop the plot and introduce lots of characters big and small, the whole movie has 20 minutes to develop lore, 15 minutes of action, then another 15 minutes of story, before an hour long final action sequence washes away any hope of this movie being anything other than generic popcorn movie #342.
Fans will later notice that the game was not about getting the girl and feel that whatever made the game good was totally absent in the movie.
Asbestos_Underwear
Kanik
Posted 12:05 AM 17/9/08
Yes, yes, game movies suck.
I still think the first Mortal Kombat film was a good popcorn flick. :(
Kanik
LongDarkBlues
Posted 12:05 AM 17/9/08
Verbinski also did the US adaptation of The Ring, which was quite effective at setting an eerie tone - if you could mix that with the awesome set design and action pieces from the otherwise-crappy Pirates movies, I can conceive of a pretty excellent Bioshock movie.
Probably won't happen, but I can imagine it...
LongDarkBlues
geekgrrl
Posted 12:05 AM 17/9/08
so where does Guillermo del Toro come in?
this should be a "power to the people" situation. we need to band together with pitchforks and torches, and forcably oust Verbinski and insert del Toro into the director's chair.
geekgrrl
DragonYen
Posted 12:05 AM 17/9/08
I just finally finished BioShock on the 360.. took me forever (just because I got busy playing other games)... I hope the end of the movie isn't like the end of the game...
DragonYen
PatMan33
Posted 12:03 AM 17/9/08
Super best friends!
PatMan33
MartinX
Posted 12:44 AM 17/9/08
@geekgrrl: YES! Seriously, Hollywood should take some of that Dark Knight money and develop a Del Toro cloning program.
I see a utopian future where EVERY movie, except chick flicks, Bay should do those, is directed by Del Toro.
MartinX
OmniRemix
Posted 12:42 AM 17/9/08
I'm always optimistic about this sort of thing, and I am about the Bioshock movie. Until I see some actual proof it sucks, I'll assume the best.
I still think it should be about Fontaine and the fall of Rapture.
OmniRemix
logicbox
Posted 12:37 AM 17/9/08
BioShock shouldn't be a movie for the same reason Half-Life couldn't be a movie. The entire game, storyline and everything is through first person interaction. You never see the guy you're playing and you never hear him speak (some screams here and there with a grunt or two) but for the most part it's how the other characters, storyline, lore and gameplay mesh into an experience that cannot be replicated from a third person perspective. God of War on the other hand, has all the makings of a blockbuster summer movie: a badass main character, over the top action and enemies, a decent enough storyline and pretty much every single scene would require a ton of CGI to pull off half decently.
logicbox
lilaliendog
Posted 12:35 AM 17/9/08
Verse 1
And I
Never thought I'd feel this way
And as far as I'm concerned I'm glad I got the chance to say
That I do believe I love you
And if I should ever go away
Well then close your eyes and try to feel the way we do today
And than if you can't remember.....
Chorus
Keep smilin'
Keep shinin'
Knowin' you can always count on me
for sure
that's what friends are for
In good times
And bad times
I'll be on your side forever more
That's what friends are for
lilaliendog
Yonderboy
Posted 12:35 AM 17/9/08
@Kanik: I liked the first Mortal Kombat too, but watch that and then watch Enter the Dragon with Bruce Lee. Try to count the similarities... or it might be easier to count the things that were different.
It's basically a remake.
Yonderboy
Teamwork Takedown
Posted 12:29 AM 17/9/08
I do think some video game movies were entertaining, none stick out as a great film. And no matter what is said prior to any video game movie release, there is always the chance of a flop. I really don't see how they can make a good movie out of Bioshock.
Teamwork Takedown
The_Atomic_Pod
Posted 12:27 AM 17/9/08
My continuing problem with this is the mediocre introduction to a brilliant franchise.
For instance, If I were trying to introduce Beethoven to a friend who had never listened to classical music, and instead of playing his actual pieces, I played the friend midi files of Beethoven's music, and expected him to still love and respect it the way I do.
The general public who goes to see this movie will formulate their opinion on Bioshock based on the movie, whether it's good or bad, and would dismiss the game if the movie sucked balls.
The_Atomic_Pod
Shippoyasha
Posted 12:26 AM 17/9/08
@MikoKeZ:
I thought the game was good. But the fighting game story leaves a lot to the interpretation and it worked. Too bad Street Fighter movies never did. Even the Street Fighter anime had been blunders.
Shippoyasha
laser beams
Posted 1:00 AM 17/9/08
so if they can get the ending right on this one- i can see it being really wonderful.
let's not pussyfoot around the grotesque either, guys: let's plan on getting an R rating, please.
if anything's worth being done- it's worth being done RIGHT.
laser beams
RammyX
Posted 12:53 AM 17/9/08
Oh man, I really wished Guillermo Del Toro would direct the Bioshock movie... he did great on the Hellboy movies and Pan's Labyrinth. A true visionary director!
RammyX
Neer'mo
Posted 12:51 AM 17/9/08
What about Uwe, where is the love for the big guy?
I kid, I kid.
Neer'mo
lilaliendog
Posted 1:27 AM 17/9/08
@RammyX: would be scary if he did it, his visions recreated on screen are truly scary
lilaliendog
CSat420
Posted 1:24 AM 17/9/08
I liked the PotC trilogy, mainly due to Depp, but Verbinski deserves some credit too. I hope he can make this into a good movie, and with Logan(sweeney todd) penning it, maybe they can get Depp in the cast.
Make Jodelle Ferland(silent hill, tideland) the little sister and Im sold, that girl creeps me the fuck out.
CSat420
Zenrick2.0
Posted 1:21 AM 17/9/08
Do we know who is producing? If it is Jerry Bruckheimer well we can say byebye to Bioshock. It will be released, make a decent amount of cash, then whored out into more installments until the plot becomes so convoluted that you will think you're watching Bad Boys 3 starring Sylvester Stalone and Sigourney Weaver. I don't like that Verbinski is directing either, but it's better than Joel Schumacher I suppose. For some reason I want to see Paul Verhoeven direct. I just love hs use of gore and prosthetics. They can be quite terriying.
Zenrick2.0
Danjaranja
Posted 1:19 AM 17/9/08
Hey well I am just hoping it turns out like Event Horizon with Wrenches under the Sea.
Danjaranja
marmidukestank
Posted 2:24 AM 17/9/08
The Weather Man > All the other crap Verbinski has ever done, combined.
marmidukestank
velvet396
Posted 2:21 AM 17/9/08
I missed the memo that we're supposed to dislike POTC. Things got a wee bit complex but they were very enjoyable and successful movies. That would be a huge jump for a game movie.
velvet396
lumpi
Posted 2:35 AM 17/9/08
I wonder how they'll squeeze the obligatory love story into this.
lumpi
Elrinth
Posted 2:53 AM 17/9/08
"But Ken Levine isn't going to get in Verbinski's way while the director and writer John Logan."
While?
Looking forwards to Bioshock mochie! :D
Elrinth
CapnSpank
Posted 3:26 AM 17/9/08
Hey, they can make great video game movies, for instance the Street Fighter move with Raul Julia... on second thought, that move had wanting to pluck out my eyeball and then pick pieces of my brain out through the bloody socket.
CapnSpank
shemmy
Posted 3:24 AM 17/9/08
hope the film doesn't follow the game too closely, ie it has a strong opening two acts then falls to pieces.
shemmy
Nac
Posted 3:19 AM 17/9/08
The wind was taken out of EVERYONE's sails? I donno who you've been talking with, Bash, but Verbinski is aces. The failings of the second and third pirate movies can be squarely blamed on Disney for rushing the films and the writers doing the screenplays WHILE FILMING.
His Ring is better than the original, and the first pirates is fun and very well done.
We could have been A LOT worse off. This guy at least has a pedigree and is a classy visual stylist. We could have been saddled with Unknown Music Video Director With One Name #2546.
Nac
Poison
Posted 4:22 AM 17/9/08
I don't care who's the director. But would you kindly make a good Bioshock movie?
Poison
mrdanny
Posted 5:15 AM 17/9/08
The pirates movies were awesome... The second wasn't that great, but the third one totally rocked!
mrdanny
knyghtryda
Posted 5:04 AM 17/9/08
Making bioshock a movie is like making half life a movie... the movie can't/won't do the game justice and vice versa. I don't really care of they got the art direction spot on or had a massive budget for the special effects, the storytelling just won't work. You can't take an involving game like Bioshock (or half life, or system shock 2, or Deus Ex) and then just rip control (not to mention perspective) from the player in order to tell the story. The end result will either disappoint everyone who's played game or confuse anyone who hasn't.
knyghtryda
Ra is on Seinfeld
Posted 5:02 AM 17/9/08
If Bioshock is as good as the first Pirates, ill be happy. I dont mean in that Disney feel but if i can enjoy it as much.
Ra is on Seinfeld
MPSai
Posted 5:31 AM 17/9/08
Hey the last two pirates movies were STILL well directed even if the plot melted down into a pot of nonsense. But that wasn't Verbinski's fault, he wasn't a writer. I think he could direct a Bioshock movie extremely well, the script being solid and the actors being good is all we have to worry about.
MPSai
Piemonkey
Posted 5:55 AM 17/9/08
Okay, I have to ask. Why does this guy look so much like Steve Carell?
Piemonkey
eyefork2
Posted 6:33 AM 17/9/08
Making a game movie is simple. Record someone playing through the entire game using Fraps, cut it down to 2 hours, and there ya go, a Bioshock movie!
eyefork2
BallPtPenTheif
Posted 6:26 AM 17/9/08
@Piemonkey:
Really? I think he looks more like the guy on Cheap Seats. You know, the show that's like Mystery Science Theatre but with sports footage instead of movies?
BallPtPenTheif
TC
Posted 6:16 AM 17/9/08
@shemmy: I agree the first act or two was outstanding. Then it starts to feel clearly rushed in development heading towards the end. Hope the film fleshes out a better final half.
TC
ThisCharmingMan
Posted 6:14 AM 17/9/08
I'm still reallllly unsure of this project. Some things that translate very well in a video game universe often seem insanely cheesy in a film environment. Without delving too far into spoiler territory, there is a certain major event late in the game that truly smells of B movie common play. I hope Verbinski is up to the challenge.
ThisCharmingMan
izzy_k
Posted 6:13 AM 17/9/08
@lilaliendog:
Well, you came and opened me
And now there's so much more I see
And so by the way I thank you
Whoa, and then
for the times when we're apart
Well, then close your eyes and know
These words are comin' from my heart
And then if you can remember, oh
Keep smilin'
Keep shinin'
Knowin' you can always count on me
for sure
that's what friends are for
In good times
And bad times
I'll be on your side forever more
That's what friends are for
Oh, that's what friends are for
izzy_k
excaliburps
Posted 7:36 AM 17/9/08
@Kanik: Yeah I thought it was good at the time. Come to think of it. I just watched it a couple of months ago and I still enjoyed it. Yeah it was fluffy,cheesy and downright hammy in some parts but it was still more than watchable.
@Sunjammer: Yeah I liked the ending in Bioshock too. I do admit it could have benefited with more cinematics or whatnot but the overall theme of the ending was conveyed.
I think they should capture Bioshocks's culture (Rapture most of all) and other intricacies (gene-splicing,etc) and run with it. No one's going to like a play-by-play of the game. Seeing as we (most gamers) already know the twist. Granted that if a lot of people saw the movie and it was exactly like the game's script then it would surely be a goosebumps-inducing twist.
I think it's hard in the sense that they have to cater to the gamers whims as well as moviegoers who have no idea what the game is all about.
excaliburps
Klaymen
Posted 8:22 AM 17/9/08
I think the "flow" of PotC had a lot more to do with the writing. I watched a video (either on one of the DVDs or online) that detailed the writing process of the movies. With the first movie they thought there were making the last Pirate movie for the next 30 years. The success caught them completely by surprise (ever wonder why there was very little merch for the first movie?) Anyhow, after this happened, the writers went back into the first movie to pull out any ideas that could have been seen as loose plot threads so that they could weave them into the sequels.
If anything, the special features showed my Verbinski's tenacity for making everything look and feel right. If I remember correctly he was in charge of getting the movie actually shot down in the caribbean, swimming camera crews up rivers and into caves for particular shots, etc. If anything, that aspect excited me because it seems as if he won't cheap out on the world of Rapture.
/my two cents
Klaymen
EloquentZen
Posted 2:47 PM 17/9/08
They seem to always always say "oh they're so faithful to the source material" yet, all you end up with are a bunch of "references" and not much else. (See Silent Hill movie.)
It's like you have the directors/writers nudging you in the theater saying "hey! look at that! I just referenced your game!" and they want you to love them. Like a dysfunctional father.
EloquentZen
Kublikahn
Posted 4:52 PM 17/9/08
"He's not in a place where he doesn't get to pick what assignments"
I HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE SPEAK WITH DOUBLE NEGATIVES. 5th grade English people!!
Kublikahn
dialecticon
Posted 12:44 AM 17/9/08
@logicbox: What about Doom? :]
Hoping that this is good, but I'm not convinced anything needs to be translated to another medium if we are to consider it successful. Bioshock was a good game, but I wouldn't want to read the book.
dialecticon
kamra
Posted 5:59 AM 18/9/08
"We've been talking some and it seems to me that these guys really are the right guys to be doing this." said Levine as he wiped his face with yet another $100 bill.
Nah, I kid--but seriously, this Bioshock movie has the best chance of being good than any other game-to-movie adaptation yet.
So here's to positive thinking!
kamra