@Pattypie:

Agreed! But SEGA needs to re-release a few of their other games in HD:

*Golden Axe II: Revenge of Death Adder (Best Golden Axe game that never made it to a console!)

* Altered Beast

*Last Battle

*Anything "Shinobi"

Sorry, I'm SEGA/Genesis fan!

MisterE456

"Sure we can find room in our hearts - and our wallets - for both styles of re-release, Capcom."

How about NO re-releases and some new IPs fellas?

GrandfatherParadox

@RealmRPGer: new retro games in hd

Firemane

The question is a little faulty because BC: Rearmed really IS a re-release whereas MegaMan 9 is an entirely new game. Unless, of course, the question is actually "do people want HD re-releases or new retro games?"

RealmRPGer

@DaftDethMonkey:

That's an option in ST:HD

arstal

I hope we see a resurgence of old games. I'm looking at you, adventure genre!

Oh and...what is he referring to with his fingers there? Luke? What's going on?

Spoony Bard

Well.. hey CAPCOM! What about a Final Fight 4 and a Captain Commando 2.. 16-bit style? eh?

CockroachMan

I want the fancy new HD remix but with an option to revert to old 8-bit graphics.

DaftDethMonkey

@Struct09: I like you
I hope you like me.

I like both and they need more of both.

TAKE A HINT SEGA. DO WIT SONIC or even Jet Set Radio or something totally awesome.

Capcom has been raking up the gold with these revisits and more companies should take notice, ports aren't good enough anymore and a new sequel retro style is awesome.

Pattypie

@Saint Anima: I meant if you want that art style pick up 1-8 for pennies more than this one game...jmho.

KSPRAYDAD

I personally prefer HD remixes. I spent money on an HDTV so things would look better, not worse like some 8-bit, 20 year old game.

ca$h

Someone tell Konami so they can make a proper Castlevania for the next gen consoles.

keyrat

Ben Judd says don't buy Mega Man 9.

Spartan1308™

Megaman 9 is not a re-release.. it's a totally new game, but with an old style.

CockroachMan

@KSPRAYDAD: But...how can Mega Man 9 be a "non-updated 8bit game" if it's a brand new game? ;)

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I'll be sure to pick up Mega Man 9 when it comes out. I enjoyed the Bionic Commando Rearmed demo, so I may pick that up alongside it.

Saint Anima

@KSPRAYDAD: It's sorta marketed to the people who are still playing 1-8 and tired of them. But I'm with you, personally.

.glib

Don't have a problem with either but $10 for a non-updated 8bit game is a little much when you can get 1-8 for $13 to $20 [www.amazon.com]

KSPRAYDAD

Because of these two games, SF IV, and Tatsunoko, and my late discovery of Mega Man ZX for the DS, I am falling in love with Capcom all over again.

Don't stop doing what you're doing.

Apreche

Yes! High Def High quality remixes! I still want Goldeneye HD!!!!! I'll pay full price for it! What else would be good.... uuuuummmmmm street figh... no that's on its way... mortal kom... no that's coming soon too... How about a kick ass 2d version of ninja gaiden! That would be good and Contra too. I'd get that.

wtf007

I want both to succeed. Don't make me choose between HD remakes and 2D revisits, I like both ideas!

Struct09

Bionic Commando looked nice, but the gameplay wasn't the greatest with the controls. I'm all up for HD remakes like BC, cause 2D games rock.

Firemane

Its amazing people forget there were 2 3D "remakes" by Capcom before BC:Rearmed.

1942 and Commando 3

Actually, it doesn't, compared to Rearmed they were pretty damn awful.

Mentuss

I'd call Re-armed more of a 'tribute' title then a 're-release'. Calling it a re-release implies they just updated the graphics and sound of the game.

Anyone who has actually played re-armed can tell you that they did MUCH, MUCH more. I'd like to see more titles get the same attension as re-armed, and not just a HD re-release.

TKWarrior

Bionic Commando Rearmed is freaking awesome. Just got it! Cant wait for Mega Man 9. MAKE BOTH HD AND CLASSIC GAMES CAPCOM kthxbai.

Weasel3689

The purchases of the 2-D games(remakes or not) always demonstrate that we dont need HD to have fun, we never did, just ask yourselves:

Would you like to play pong with somebody right now?

Dont cheat yourself with the answer, your heart knows better.

Mactheridon

@Pattypie: Sega needs to finish and go back to doing Sonic and Crackers

@MisterE456: You forgot to mention streets of Rage

shrek187

You see, I want a mix of BC:R and MM9, new fangled graphics with old school play for $10. So if both are equally successful, can I get that?

DARTH_TIGRIS

Anyone for a remade 2D Final Fight? Oh my....

And by the way, is that the MILF Hunter guy? XD

KagaSakai

@Mentuss: I liked them.

L_K_M

@Struct09: Yes! How about making both? Having old-style sequels to games like Mega Man is absolutely awesome, but having great, modern remakes of old games is absolutely awesome, too.

L_K_M

LIES!

Gamers want Final Fantasy re-released... again... on their cellphones! Right, Square Enix?!?

ZekeThePlumber

penis

Cool Dude

Please Mega Man 9 do well. I liked Bionic Commando Rearmed, but I would have enjoyed the original just as much had it been rereleased instead.

New games, that's what I want to see even if they are about an old character. Move forward Capcom and bring us new classics.

Kenofthedead

are they trying make me not buy megaman 9 because i was on the fence and this is giving me a good reason not to. i don't see ANY reason to preserve 8bit graphic crap. you can preserve all the style and still have it hd if it's done well.
it's just giving people excuses to rehash stuff that's been around for decades.

l33tm3at

The only other game I would like to see back in the 8bit would be Mario...

anything else in HD plz

Captain Fury

@ZekeThePlumber: As much as we make fun of Square Enix, they sometimes do right and make new games, even if so few buy them.

Still Final Fantasy IV has a sequel on mobile phones and it's actualy rather good. Would be better on the DS though.

Kenofthedead

@Struct09: Me as well...There's no reason we can't have both. It's up to Capcom (and the different publishers) what they want to be retro-made or build a new one from the ground up. Mega-Man 9 is a good touch I must say. Especially for people (like me) who have fond memories of the blue-bomber when we were kids...

@DontTouchMyDaughterYouFilthyGaijin: You do realize "HD" gaming is not another platform. It's a resolution which may or may not be implemented. You can play an "HD" game on a normal tv y'know. And "HD" gaming doesn't have to be brown. Where did you get that idea?

@bigman88zz: Yep. Viva Pinata as well. Ratchet & Clank,etc as well.

@shrek187: Hell yeah! Streets of Rage (Bare Knuckle in Japan) was awesome! Not sure how they'd make a new one though. As I think a lot of people aren't really into beat 'em ups nowadays anymore...

@KagaSakai: So that's why he looks familiar! Yeah he looks like the MILF hunter guy! Hey Luke, tell that to him will ya?

excaliburps

@DontTouchMyDaughterYouFilthyGaijin: snes graphics also have a charm to them, which probably would have been a better fit, seeing as how megaman 8 was on the snes. why de-evolve? or dare i say it, de-digivolve

bigman88zz

@DontTouchMyDaughterYouFilthyGaijin: does banjo kazooie look like brown stuff? besides the bear?

bigman88zz

@Mactheridon: In my opinion HD does nothing for gaming. It's very overrated. I like games that look like games. Not brown stuff trying to look like reality.

DontTouchMyDaughterYouFilthyGaijin

@l33tm3at: I can understand your reasoning but at the same time...seriously man, some people just don't "get it". Some of us love nostalgia and that's why we want these games to look the way they did when we were kids. Is that so hard to understand? 8 bit NES stuff has a certain charm to it that has stood the test of time.

DontTouchMyDaughterYouFilthyGaijin

@bigman88zz: 7. god i need sleep

bigman88zz

Could care less for High rez 3D graphics, but new games today at least I expect them to look a bit more then Mega man 9, now that doesn't meen anything to what it's a good game or not.

If they plan to make another game, at least I hope they could at least provide High rez art and not the old crap looking NES game, and yes it do look ugly, they where on other hand good games, Specially MM3.

MugiMugi

don´t really think the style of mega man 9 look that bad. snes games do look better, but old nes does still have some charm with the old blip blop sounda and so on. And those disapearing blocks can be hell. i actually have mega man 7 in nes form. That some fan did.

basseman

I love both high res and low res remakes. But for next gen consoles, high def makes better sense.

I agree that maybe next time, they can remake the Megaman X series in their SNES age.

Shippoyasha

HD remixes are the way to go.
I mean, how many people out there actually played JOUST for more than 5 or 10 minutes?
Most people who own a 360 or PS3 probably have them hooked up to a widescreen HDTV.
Who the HELL wants that screen to enlarge pixels that are 10-20 years old???
Not me.
If I want to revisit memory-lane with old titles, I want to revisit them in HD like Bionic Commando.
Trust me...those "classics" don't really age as well as your memory thinks they do.
As a kid I LOVED my Intellivision.
The problem is, after playing Intellivision Lives...I realized they looked and played better in my memory than they do today.
It's the natural evolution of technology.
I think if a company does a full-on remake ala BC, even a picky gamer like myself would actually want to revisit the past.

johnpnj

I bought and loved BC: rearmed and I will buy megaman 9. However, I like HD remakes/tributes done in 2d rather than the nes style remake.

kablammyman

I bought BC:R and I'll get MM9, but in general HD remakes are the way to go.

XbhaskarX

People saying "I'll buy both!" are missing the point: if you buy the one that's essentially a romhack that could have been made almost for free, no one's going to want to spend a huge wad of cash on much higher quality remakes like Bionic Command Rearmed. If it's voting with your dollars, a lot of people seem prepared to vote for a third term of Bush.

Kral2

Damn Capcom, asking us to make a decision between HD remakes and retro games; it's like asking to choose between your kids!

NeoStarr

I my opinion, the is simply an demand for games with 2D Gameplay.

KotakuFreund

what "hasn't sunk in" means?

salaminizer

I can't really be against either concept, though I'd prefer more games in the style of BC:R. Don't get me wrong, Mega Man 9's super-retro direction is cool, but it seems less cool to me than BC:R's incredible overhaul - which includes so much new stuff and simply killer soundtrack. But if it comes down to what Capcom and other companies do with such projects in the future, I think there is plenty of room for both styles...

@Kral2: Dramatic Voice: We can't handle four more years of the same.

AngryEddy

@Kral2: What does an old band from the 90's have anything to do with Mega-man and Bionic Commando? :P

Ultron100

It's a valid point. I'd rather have an BC:R type HD remix of some old Megaman games, or -- this may sound a bit crazy, but stay with me -- a brand spankin' new 2.5D Megaman adventure, than a totally retro NES remake.

@Spoony Bard: It's because these words are not his own, he's actually a messenger for the Big Guy in the Sky.

Toasticus

You know what everyone is forgetting? Mega Man Powered Up. That was Capcom's 3D rendering of Mega Man in a 2D setting. Who bought that? Or what about that Mega Man X remake for the PSP as well? Maverick Hunters I think it was called. Both had a Bionic Commando: Rearmed feel to them. Capcom has been testing the waters for some time now and this is their next test for style. Besides, this is just the artistic direction for ONE game, so I wouldn't worry about this being a trend for all games. And just to throw this out there, I bought an HDTV for entertainment, which Mega Man 9 will be.

SPhil64

I'd love to see a new MegaMan X game done in the HD sprites like SF2HD.

Seriously - get to it, Capcom!

Arttemis

@SPhil64: Powered Up? It was super-cutesy chibi style, and it was on a handheld. nothankyou.jpg

Toasticus

@SPhil64:
Lets not forget Castle Vania X remake

Its like Fashion I guess.
It has to be the correct time, not just a good game.

JojoTheSlayer

Well I like the 2D just fine, not so crazy about everything else. HD next time and you've got one more sale.

TSlade

The genius of Mega Man 9's aesthetic is that if it wasn't in the same 8-bit style as before, we wouldn't be talking about it. Between Mega Man 8 and now, there have been countless Mega Man games in essentially 16 or 32-bit and they didn't make much of a splash outside of the core fanbase. In comparison, Mega Man 9 has everyone talking and reminiscing. This will translate to sales because, at the end of the day, it's the gameplay we love about Mega Man, not the graphics.

I'm not advocating going out and making 8-bit arcade games for every series, but I think Capcom's move succeeded in revitalizing a dusty, tired series and making us remember why it was so damn fun in the first place. Before all of the Net-Navi nonsense, before all the Cyber Elves, before all of the pretentious, emo and melodramatic X games, we had a game that perfected the side scroller. It's time to go back to basics and recognize what make this work in the first place.

Kyouryuu

@KSPRAYDAD: This is why I hope Capcom goes the BC route instead. I really enjoyed the new version of BC much more than the original (yes I'm old enough to have played the original on an actual NES.)

MSUHitman

@johnpnj: You hit the nail on the head....preserve the gameplay but update the aesthetic.

fugit

@Spartan1308™: Not sure I like this Ben Judd you speak of.

Is it the gameplay? MM2 was amazing. MM1 & MM3 ok. Which is it? STYLE is irrelevant. FUN is everything...

fugit

@keyrat: True.. I want a an update castlevania with hd level sprites, not a 3d game.

Kounji

I actually like the HD style.
the "8-bit" style only works with 8-bit games cuz they're adorable in graphics. Goldeneye64 isn't cute, it's ugly compared to graphics now.

I absolutely loved Bionic Commando ReArmed, and am still playing it (doing Hard Mode now)

So do more HD remixes please... starting with GoldenEye64 by Rare

zyberteq

@Arttemis: you want a BC:Rearmed treatment for Megaman?

OK, here's what you do:
step 1: Purchase a PSP
Step 2: Purchase Megaman Powered Up or Megaman Maverick Hunter X.

see? the solution is already there for you, you just need to enact it!

fillerbunny9

@bigman88zz: there's a simple reason as to why to deevolve: gameplay.

when Megaman "grew up" from the 8-bit, to the 16-bit, to the 32-bit, he became less responsive due to all the additional frames of animation. (Megaman 8 for the 32 bit consoles is the worst offender here). in the NES titles, Megaman's jumping was zippy and allowed you to have more elaborate dodging maneuvers. (various incarnations of the Yellow Devil, here's looking at you!)

as much as I liked BC:Rearmed, I feel that the HD & polygon re-polish hurt the game. the Bionic Arm's hit detection was suddenly spotty. "oh, you didn't hit the right part of that spotlight, sorry, please try again!" I LOVED BC on the NES, and was psyched for the new release, but have since put it down, just because I got sick of "missing" grapple points.

fillerbunny9

BTW, that was just meant to be teasing, not contemptuous. :)

Toasticus

@fillerbunny9: Wait, BC:R was super-cutesy chibi style? I must have missed that while taking in all the 2.5D-ness!

I mean, when we ask for 2.5d remakes, that's all we're asking for: the leap to the fake extra dimension. That's where our request starts and ends. Not any sense of, you know, aesthetics or anything. The point of graphical upgrades isn't about... uh... graphics...

Toasticus

Yeah, as interesting as the idea is with Mega Man 9, I'm with ca$h on this. It's a waste of pixels on my 1080p tv to even play MM9. If they actually made a NES version (not just the cart and a box, but a playable NES version on my NES), then I might consider. But I want HD remixes. But ultimately I am torn on the issue. Because I don't want to stifle any old school revisit.

ghidra

@fillerbunny9: I think BC:R argument is only because you played the orginal so much more than the remake. Hard to compete with that level of skill and the 'selective' memory we all have. Honestly, there is nobody left who REALLY appreciates dying all the time - this arcade style of playing is dead.

In addition - even for Mega Man - it is not the frames of an animations or the quality to blame, but that they changed the gameplay - the often spoken about chargable shot is just one of the things they changed.

It is not a technical but a design decision how slow a game feels. E.g. Bionic Commando fells sluggish on purpose (not being able to jump being a main reason). So let me rephrase the real question:
If you get IDENTICAL gameplay in HD graphics, what would you chose? THAT is the ONLY question to answer. And let me restate that: There is no technological reason why they can't combine the original gameplay with good graphics.

develin

Oh great...I'm going to have to sacrifice MM9 because I want more HD remakes like BC:R.

kftgr

Capcom...
Is doing it right.
Retro feel, new and fresh content.
I bought Commando, 1942, and BC Rearmed on XBLA.
Now gimme Ghost & Goblins and Strider remakes.

Namco is kicking arse too.
Galaga Legions and Pac-Man Championship are great.
They have a great retro library to tap.

I wish Konami (My fave company) would get their head outta their arse.

WHERE IS MY CONTRA, CASTLEVANIA, GRADIUS, PARODIUS in 2.5D, HD GLORY?

Yes, I am shouting because after playing the beauty that is BC:Rearmed, I feel a little ripped off buying Contra & Super Contra on XBLA and getting an arcade rom with a muddy real time photoshop filter applied to make it "HD".

nastygamer

I would like to see some more 2D remakes, I bought BC: Rearmed on release and it was awesome. I didn't like the controls at first but they grew on my eventually. It's my most played Live Arcade game now I think. A Contra remake would be nice also. Well, I'd buy it.

Tomo-L

This "remake" is a glowing example of what should be done when reviving classic games. Every game company that is considering putting out a classic should look at their work on this game. It was damn close to perfection.

iamdaduck

Everyone better damn well buy Mega Man 9. And the soundtrack..

-Scrixx-

Ooh, a new Mega Man would be on my list of must haves.

NerdyLife

It would have been a lot more successful if they released it on Steam.

Even so, I bought it and enjoyed it immensely.

Mystery00

@GrandfatherParadox: Because not everyone had the chance of experiencing some great games back in the day.

TacoBurrito