Being the most expensive game to develop and exclusive to PS3? that would be suicide.

mcool93

@XbhaskarX: I always thought it started with "Double Indemnity" in 1944. "Maltese Falcon" is very much still a "mystery." But really, what does it matter? It's all generally "opinion."
Plus, there's a whole historical aspect to it, of film noir being derived from the American zeitgeist during and post-WWII. I mean, we're all really proud of that 'A' you got in Film 101, but it's seriously not that big of a deal.

peAr nectAr

Is Film Nior within the realm comprehension for the average XBox user?

PatMan33

@TheBassKicks: Looks like this. Earthy colors, not black and white.

[www.gametrailers.com]

@Zim: GTA 4 has already sold 10 million copies. That was as of 8/16. It was only released on 4/29. It took San Andreas 3 years to sell 21.5 million copies, and the console install base was much larger for PS2/Xbox than it is even now for 360/PS3 when San Andreas was released. GTA 4 is a game that will continue to be a must buy once they get a 360 or PS3. SA is actually the only GTA that I haven't played. If I'm going to play a last gen GTA, I'd always go for Vice City. If anything though, GTA 4 is on track to be more successful than San Andreas.

[www.1up.com]

Spartan1308™

@XbhaskarX: Thank you for clearing that up, I was just about to say almost exactly what you said. LA Conifdential is a perfect example btw. Even movies such as Mulholland Drive have been referred to lightly as Film Noir. It's still a style and form of storytelling, just not as drastic as in the 40s.

kadaj24

I'm definately interested. Film Noir is probably one of my favourite genres of cinema. Who needs a private dick ?

Nexus6

@Zim:
Dude, you are a moron who knows nothing about films, why are you pretending to know what you're talking about?

Film noir didn't cease to exist because it's no longer popular, it is a genre that is considered to have started with The Maltese Falcon in 1941 and ended with Touch of Evil in 1958.
There are plenty of films that have been made since then in the film noir style, they are just not considered to be "classic film noir"... because they are post-1958! I could list fifty examples but I'll just mention LA Confidential (1997) since it was so successful.
Maybe next time you can search the internet for the term "Neo-noir"...

XbhaskarX

Don't put all your eggs in the Noir basket, Rockstar.

Shelve the Read Dead Revolver name, snag the rights to GUN 2 and put like, a quarter of your eggs in there.

Chances

Sony loses another exclusive!!! What the hell are they asleep at hq.

97gsx

@CockneyKaiser: Snap :)

Arnold Rimmer's Garden Strimmer

@Zim: I think you're forgetting that at the time SA came out...there were millions more PS2's and Xbox's in peoples homes than there are Xbox 360's and PS3's...

Arnold Rimmer's Garden Strimmer

Thats odd, haven't really heard anything about this for a long time. In fact last thing I remember hearing was that it wasn't possible on the 360 because it was too large to fit on a dvd. But while I'm a little miffed at losing exclusivity I can understand it with R* going down the tubes

Sparx

@Zim: Either that, or a. GTAIV was probably the worst 3D GTA and b. the PS2 installed base alone when SA came out was how many more millions then the current gen consoles again?

CockneyKaiser

@Zim: I'm guessing you haven't seen The Usual Suspects?

Passa

... Wait a noir game the most expensive ever? Noir as in the usually not very popular genre?

Film noir hasn't been popular in like 50 years =/ Just check out imdb's film noir section, the most recent movie in the top 50 is from 1957.

I would have thought Rockstar learnt there lesson from Gta. Personally I think a big reason 4 looks like it won't get anywhere near the sales numbers of SA is simply because far more people are interested in hiphiop/rap culture etc than in the story of an eastern european immigrant. Sa did around 20 million on ps2/xbox, I would be surprised if Gta4 made it to 15million.

Zim

This game is exciting.

adocious

will it be kind of like mafia style or what i havent heard that much from this game in awhile

Elijah Man

It's been fairly certain that it would be coming to 360 since earlier this year. There was a job listing that was referenced on Gamasutra and a story about it here on Kotaku.

[kotaku.com]

[jobs.gamasutra.com]

Spartan1308™

@TheBassKicks: No no, Black and White is actually quite pretty. LA looks more like a toilet that someone shat and puked in, with the scent to go along with it.

slackjawed

LUKE:

This game hasn't been exclusive for WELL over a year now. [www.gamesindustry.biz]

Kotaku used to tout SurferGirl...even SHE said it wasn't an exclusive 6 months ago:

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KSPRAYDAD

Yes, yes, and probably

Ahsayuni

@TheBassKicks: ZING!

PS: this game looks hecka rad

KingBlister

Did they decide to make it black and white because that's how LA actually looks with all that smog?

TheBassKicks

@Gutsman: Think GTA in LA, with black and white, and a 1940's style. At least I think that's what it's like.

DMC-Man

Sooo, is this going to be GTA in LA or what?

Gutsman

im interested

ZetaCrossfire

I can't wait for all the "another dead PS3 exclusive lols!" comments, especially when we all knew this title wasn't exclusive

Rockstar is currently developing a PS3 exclusive but it isn't this one. Jack Tretton didn't mention the name of it, and LA Noire isn't it.

DustySword

@Tyrannical:
At least someone knows the future. Tell us, who won in November?

ca$h

MGS:4 was the PS3's last big third party exclusive.

Tyrannical

@TheXanadu:
Mafia 2 is coming out too, which I saw a trailer of in GameTrailers.

DustySword

I hope it comes to 360. This game looks so good.

Phazon

Pretty sure it was never truly confirmed as a PS3 exclusive. In fact I recall a confirmation that it was indeed coming to the 360 as well, so no surprise here.

LittleBigPlaneteer

@Zim: Um...LA Confidential?

I hope it stays exclusive, as Sony could use it.

Regardless, nice to hear some news on this. I'm really interested in this game.

GrandfatherParadox

Please come to the 360 - I remember seeing the first trailer for this game ages ago- I really love the idea of a noire game setting- like Mafia 1 (one of my favorite games of all time).

TheXanadu

@XbhaskarX:
Dude chill out. The guy was misinformed, doesn't mean you need to call him a moron. That just makes you look like a jackass film snob instead of someone who wants to help people understand the truth.

ca$h

Rockstar has stated that the PS3 will get an exclusive game, but it won't be LA Naire for those wondering and saying this is Sony's fault or something.

LittleBigPlaneteer

Not surprising that it's multiplatform considering how expensive it is to make and how Sony has said they have no real intention of paying 3rd parties for exclusives.

BrokenDesign

@DNAgent:

What are you basing your "mediocre" judgement on? An early teaser trailer? Some early alpha footage? Talk about a premature assessment.

LittleBigPlaneteer

Back when I first saw this game, it certainly intrigued me.

justhesh

Today's been a very long day for Kotaku. I honestly thought this was still a PS3 exclusive myself too :| No one's perfect.

okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under)

Isn't this that mediocre game where it looks like a Godfather ripoff? I thought this game was canceled. Meh. I was never interested in it and i'm still not interested in it. I'll pass on this.

DNAgent

I don't care if this game is multiplatform or not. The little we know about it makes me feel that "one of the most expenisve games ever" is going to end up being more of negative footnote than a positive one. Seems very niche (particularly in setting, even though I sure love noir) for such a tag.

DARTH_TIGRIS

I'm really hoping that LA Noire will be in black and white, that would be hot. I can't wait for this title really. I had a blast with Mafia, and am looking forward to more games set in the 20's, 30's, 40's or 50's.

dead_red_eyes

good. i though it went to developmental hell or limbo.

s.

ciruela

I hope it's a ps3 exclusive...

Cufol33tcat

@Cufol33tcat: why o WHY do people like yourself care? these companies don't care if you have loyalty to them.

do games get a better fun value if you know that other people can't enjoy them?

MysteriousStranger

@Cufol33tcat:

And I hope the PS3 version runs like shit and has less detailed textures.

Not really, but the sentiment is about equally helpful.

Brodka

you cant drop "BLOCKBUSTER" money on an exclusive title anymore. it will be on 360 for sure.

SAGA

@SAGA: Depends what you mean by "BLOCKBUSTER" money. Because Gears of War 2, Fable 2, Metal Gear Solid 4, etc, have blockbuster budgets as far as I'm concerned.

Either way, as a proud PS3 and 360 owner, I'm perfectly happy for it to be cross-platform, so long as there's none of this "exclusive DLC" crap. That's worse, as far as I'm concerned.

V1L3

GTA IV cost $100 million to make (and no doubt another $20 or $30 million to market). And while the game would have been a huge success on any one system, it's looking to move between 12 and 15 million copies in 2008 alone. For anyone doing the math, that is closing in on the $1 billion mark.

But then again, that is GTA. A franchise of which everyone wants a piece.

LA Noire on the other hand, that is a completely unknown franchise, by a relatively unknown developer. True Rockstar Games purchased the development studio a couple years back (I hear as more a favor to the owner, who is friends with the Houser Bros). For an unknown franchise by an unknown developer to get a larger development budget than GTA IV, yet expect to actually have a chance at earning all that money back, and breaking even, there is simply no way on Earth any publisher is going to risk the game being exclusive to a single console - it's just fiscally irresponsible, and is not going to happen.

I have no doubts that the peeps at Rockstar feel that LA Noire is likely going to be their next, big franchise (big enough even to rival GTA . . . now that is a sobering thought), or they would not have shoveled over $100,000,000 into the game's production. Yet at the same time they are shoveling $100,000,000+ into this title, they are likely spreading that love around to both the 360 and the PC, to give them a much greater chance of making their money back.

If at some point the LA Noire franchise turns out to be as big as GTA, then at that point I could see the possibility of it going console exclusive (for any 1st party dumb enough to fork over that kind of cash for it). But in the here and now, it is an unknown franchise by a relatively unknown developer, that has a year left to go, and has already cost over $100,000,000 to make (not counting the multi-million $$$$ marketing budget). A little bird named Wisdom is telling me, LA Noire is most definitely going to be a multi-platform title, with a day one release across both HD platforms and maybe the PC on day one as well.

InvaderPhlegm

i definitely need to see more.

hey, i dont care if its exclusive or not, really, as long as it really is totally the same on either system.

the whole GTA DLC thing leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. rockstar lost some respect in my books for that.

anyways, i like the atmosphere and style this game seems to have. i hope it turns out amazing.

joeloliol

I need this game now.

3Sixty

L.A. Confidential? seriously listing that as proof that Noir is still popular? A movie from 10 years ago that couldn't even make it to 130million box office worldwide. That is not popular, Ananconda did better than that. Men in black doing 589million is popular, Jurssaic park 2 doing 619million is popular.

I'll tell you what. Go to box office mojo and look at genres. Neo noir doesn't have a single movie that did over 100million in the USA. There are in fact very very few genres with lower grossing top movies. Examples being the Travelogue - New Jersey genre and the werewolf genre.

The only successful neo-noir movie since 2000 is Sin city. Which im guessing will be pretty far in tone from L.A. Noire.

Noir isn't a popular genre. You can't spend 200million making a noir movie and hope it will be a blockbuster hit. You can do that with action, adventure etc. Likewise you can't spend 100million making a noir game and hope it will be a blockbuster hit.

Zim

@Zim: It is quite sad that genres and movies today are judged by how much money can be put into them (read: quality) and how much they make in their opening weekend.

Film Noir was always the genre that didn't need a massive budget to make it work. Neither did it need to be popular. It is the rebel in the movie business.

mcderek3000

Any game PS3 game that is repeatedly delayed (apart from MGS4) can be automatically assumed to also come to the X360 due to development costs.

mcderek3000

Wow, I didn't even know this game was being made. Where have I been?

Quicksilver4648

@mcderek3000: He didn't judge the movies; he said they didn't make much money and therefore probably aren't as popular.

ps360blows

@Zim: Film Noir is not a cut and dry genre, but a style and feel that many influential and successful films use.

One example: The years most successful film, The Dark Night, is essentially a Noir set in the world of costumed heroes.

chimp_o_death

I really don't know who the hell started this "exclusive for ps3" crap. When they freakin announced the game they said it wasn't the kick ass new ip for sony that was exclusive.

ManjiKengo

They had previously mentioned awhile back that Sony backed out on their part of the exclusive deal that supposedly had them somehow help fund the development, so the deal was broken and they were free to develop in on 360. I took that as a near confirmation of a 360 version.

EvilJerk

It should have smooth colour tinted for mood, not black and white, that just sucks.

Paincake

@Zim: What your basically saying is that good films make big money bad films don't. I think as someone else pointed out you are ignoring the actual quality of the films themselves.

Your point is that big action films = big bucks, fair enough... except where does Titanic fit into that? taking 2 hours to sink a bloody boat it aint no action packed thrill-a-minute blockbuster ;)

senote

@MysteriousStranger:
The reason i care is cuz they said that the game was too big to fit on the 360, if it wasn't marketing crap that means that a) they gonna shrink the game cuz of multiple dvd's needed for the xbox b) they gonna make the game only for xboxes with hardrives , so it's not my loyalty to the console it's my hope that the game turns out the best it can cuz i was hoping for a game like this for a long long time.

Cufol33tcat

@senote: No what im saying is certain genres struggle. Not once have I mentioned quality.

Way to use a freak event to try and prove something though -_-. Titanic was very very unusual. It's opening wasn't enourmous and niether were it's first few weeks. However it had incredible legs. Partly because a lot of teenage girls saw it multiple times, partly word of mouth. A huge percentage of the women I know who were teenagers when it came out saw it at least 3 times. A couple over 5 times and one even over 10times.

Also my point was never that big action movie = big bucks. It was that big movie in certain genres = big bucks. And other genres are never going to be that big no matter the quality of the movie etc.

@chimp_o_death: Indeed it is however La noire (and all other film noir) do not feature batman, the joker and all the hype about Heath ledgers last full performance.

Zim

If it lets me fulfill my ambition of being a hardboiled Philip Marlowe-type, I'm down.

Bakeroo

IGN confirmed long ago that LA Noire is not the PS3-exclusive title Rockstar is working on. Noire is going to be multiplatform.

Swift_

@PatMan33: Your snarky little shot at 360 users would have been midly amusing had you not mispelled noir. Dipshit.

mogaar

@slackjawed: Don't Like Los Angeles? Good, please don't ever visit - we don't need any more vacationing hicks than we already have...

mogaar

Yes! If this game comes out to the Xbox 360, I definitely will buy/rent it. Noir games are very important; we need them to help us rethink in ways that we'll consider morality as a very important and logical element within every video game. Stop glorifying violence and sex, and start deglorifying it! I hope that this game will be a great example of that.

MalyGolab

@Tyrannical: What a joke. What about games like Final Fantasy Versus XIII? You see, you're wrong.

Ansem

@97gsx:
If my comment had been approved sooner, or if this poster had read through the comments BEFORE posting, we would not see this misinformation.
I hope everyone can enjoy this game, except Wii only owners - no offence, but I'd rather the vision wasn't dumbed down. Vision is more important than cashing a quick buck on a larger audience.

johnnyrippa

This is great to hear -- not the part about a year yet to go, but that it's still in development. I'd love to do some free-roaming in the world of Sunset Boulevard, Who Framed Roger Rabbit, The Thirteenth Floor, Chinatown, etc. ([en.wikipedia.org])

gughunter

Sorry to break the news, but LA Noire hasn't been PS3 exclusive since Sony dropped funding years ago.
It was only exclusive while Sony was funding the title.

(This is just to avoid fanboy comments that insist PS3 has lost another exclusive due to..I don't know, the imaginary turn of the tides)

johnnyrippa

augh
i have a 360 and a ps3 but its always sad to see a ps3 exclusive turn to 360
i want to see both systems succeed

oh well...it look interesting a few years back when they announced it

Hope4QuantumXII