@Ketch2k8: I really don't get why people are so excited by Home... sounds like Second Life for Sony fanboys to me.

Sathias

@Garo: Ummm it is Molyneux we are talking about here. He does tend to run his mouth a little.

Balance_In_Life

@Deus_EpS: I agree with you the company publishing his game is MS but then again every company has had there little maverick that speaks like their crap doesn't stink. I wonder what "defining moment" is defined as in his book though

TheNexusRebound

So MGS4 is not a defining title? Nearly perfect scores across the board and it's overlooked again?

Typical fanboy comment by him to say "I've got a PS3". Just like when a racist says "I've got black friends."

kadaj24

I don't think he's even considering PS Home. LBP is going to be PS3's recognisable title its "missing" but what will define PS3 will be PS Home.

Ketch2k8

I do think that he's right. The PS3 has got some badass hardware, and has the ability to do things so right, but there hasn't yet been a game that people instantly click with when they think of it. An average person associates their PS2 or Wii with guitar hero, maybe wii sports or GTA3.

360, people think of halo 3 or gears of war as being FOR this game machine. MGS4 I think could have, but because of the kind of game it is, even made more friendly compared to other iterations, is STILL pretty narrow and niche. I know it so around 2 million or so, last I heard, and that's an amazing number of copies, but it isn't the enormous number that you see on Wii or 360, what was it for halo 3, 8 something million? Gears of war was around 5? I don't know what the best selling PS3 game is, but I have yet to see a game that clearly defines what the console is about.

The 360 has it's brutal and gritty games, action packed and ready to burst with testosterone, but there are exceptions, like the many RPGs, a handful of puzzle games.

The Wii has it's kid friendly rainbow palate that works for it's audience.

The PS3 has been trying to sell as a blu-ray player, a games machine, an entire media center, and even more casual focused. Now I know that the other two have made promises towards hardcore and casual, but no other system has been trying to do so much at once. And I think it's because of that, that they're stretching thin their resources, and instead of working on class A first party titles, they've been making everything but.

LBP I think has a chance at defining the PS3. Fun, goofy, a little bite to it, and a much more open online schema compared to XBL, with user content sharing. People could look at the 360 and say "that's where I play my games online with friends" and then look to their PS3's and say "thats where me and my friends build things, and then play with them". And with the addition of home, which I'm still not sold on, it tries to do even more in addition to whats there.

I think that in the end, they need to stop making it everything in the world EXCEPT a games machine, and focus first on what it really is at it's core, a game machine. If they decide that's not what they want, then remove the guts, and sell it as a blu-ray player and upscaler, maybe keep one core and market it as a media center replacement for streaming, maybe leave in the hard drive and let people have it for an entire entertainment center solution.

I know that the PS3 can do all of these things in one box, but because of it, it suffers in the field of price, and not everybody needs the extra features. People complain about the price of the 360's wireless adapter, but I've never once needed it. If I get a ps3, I probably wont be using the wireless connection. The problem ends up being the price, and not the fact that it's an addon, for me at least.

tl;dr version: The PS3 needs to be for games first.

Talleh

Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots

Your move, Mr/Molyneux

Trailnutz

seriously, i felt this was an interesting article, but hasnt this been posted like 3 times already over the span of 2 weeks? I remember reading it in the new egm (i think egm atleast), seeing it on this site twice, seeing it on joystiq, aswell as on another gaming site.... did he just give the exact same interview to 3 different people or are all 3 just reposting it one times too many?

Bobman32x

Does anyone care what this dolt says? Since he left Bullfrog ten years ago he hasn't made a game worth shite. Black & White, Fable & The Movies? Really Peter? REALLY? Let's talk about some of the "Oh my god" moments I've had when playing some of your more recent Lionhead games after all the promises you made and hype you generated. I'll sum it up chump. "Oh my god I can't believe this nitwit got me to buy another one his crappy games."

giroml

Didn't he just say the same thing like last week?

Aflack: Likes slushies

@*insertfunnyscreennamehere*: Oh sorry I'm thinking this was peter moore again for some reason.

His idea of creating emotion in a game equivilant to FFVII was to add a dog so he's a bit out of it. Ignore him.

Llost

@Llost: He hasn't left Lionhead so that makes him a Microsoft employee, you are confusing him with Peter Moore.

See, Moore and Molyneux share some similarities:

They are both bald, white, in their 40's, worked for Microsoft and tend to talk a bit too much.

They differ in that Molyneux has some credit from his days at Bullfrog (Oh what lovely games you created) which he then went to dilapidate with Black & White and Fable 1, he's the classic "I promised the moon but I delivered a piece of cheese" designer.

zoesch

I guess MGS4 was "just another game." Well, when youre Microsoft's bitch anyways.

slackjawed

@ArmyofJuan: Agreed. I'm slowly playing more on the PS3 (mostly thanks to Disgaea 3 which could just as well have been released on PS2) but although it has plenty of great games, that elusive defining title still feels missing. LittleBigPlanet could very well be it and if not, perhaps something Team ICO cooks up.

EldonTLH

the ps3 does need a defining title, LBP has a chance to help get it or be the title itself. and molyneux needs to stop flame baiting/

EaGle1337

Typo...you wrote FF XII in your first sentence :)

henhowc

"I haven't seen many of those on the PS3."
Maybe because you work for MS?

Why is Molyneux making such a stupid comment? I thought he was bigger than that :(

Garo

@Llost:
Since when does Molyneux work for EA? Last time I heard of him, he was still working for Lionhead Studios from Microsoft.

*insertfunnyscreennamehere*

he is kind of right though. i own both systems but i hardly ever, EVER, touch my PS3. Despite how well Uncharted, Resistance, Ratchet and Warhawk are though, they don't really define the system though. Warhawk possibly, but i think that just may because it's been so heavily marketed.

I think LBP though, has a chance to change that

ArmyofJuan

@Deus_EpS: He actually works with EA now so they probably meant to put ex-Microsoft employeee.

While I agree there should be more amazing titles I doubt MGS4 isn't worthy of being up there.

Llost

Oh god, Molyneux just loves creating flame wars between console fanboys.

RandomPoltergeist

That is, as Bashcraft says...
"According the Microsoft employee"

what else would you expect?

Deus_EpS

That lowers my opinion of him.

Kaonazhie

flame bait article?

Prathik

I somewhat agree. Most of the games I have been playing are multiplatform, which the exception of Resistance. This should change by the end of this year though (or next month)!

everybest

I agree with him... but LittleBigPlanet is going to be awesome and sell a ton of consoles, so we can wait a bit longer for the PS3's defining moment.

(This coming from an avid Nintendo fan who doesn't own a PS3.)

Chesu

This probably explains the horrible story and the huge amount of Bishonens in his games. =P

Ashurahori

someone give this guy a copy of MGS4 to shut him up, he is embaressing himself, and it's interesting that he is releasing a 360 exclusive soon....funny that

The Medicine Seller

I also think that he is right.

I have a PS3, and man, I have a ton of games. But more often than not, I find myself replaying PS2 or PS1 games. MGS4 was great, but I only beat it once and I can't bring myself to play it again - and I got the collector's edition.

LBP is what I hope will actually define the PS3. MGS4 was hyped up to be the 2nd coming, but it somehow didn't impress me as much as, say, MGS3 did.

I'm a Sony fan, but so far the slow start of great software for the PS3 has me dissapointed. I am sure it's going to pick up like it once did for the PS2 though. We'll see.

However this also applies to all consoles. The Wii in my opinion, has a horrible controller and I can't bring myself to play it. It's just collecting dust. The 360? I can't stand the controller either, but it does have a lot of software out - just none that seriously stands out.

Jehuty

"I haven't seen many of those" but at least he saw something....and what about 360...have he seen a lot of 'those' on the 360?..but the bottom line is he is a ms employee so he's suppose to say those things against the competition.

eaglesphily1

He might hype his games up a bit too much, but the guy is proud of what he does, which is always good. It's not like what he says, or anyone else for that matter, is what we all need to go along with. That's the beauty of an opinion.

Personally I agree to some degree. MGS4 was about as close as the PS3 came to having a defining game. LBP looks interesting and there's a ton of hype for it, but I don't think it'll be what the PS3 needs in the end.

Then again, I've been wrong quite a bit over the last couple years. This console generation confuses me.

Hey_guy

weird, most PS3 exclusives that ive tried out seem to push out more than what the 360 does and wii can do, as far as a console experience..

wahrugene

I'm guessing peter never played the MGS series to completion or tried uncharted.

Seriously though, I don't think you can get those kinds of feeling about a game after a certain age. The dude is like 50 years old.

VishusBurn

I find Molineux' comments kind of disturbing when you take into account that little big planet is beeing made by ex employees of lionhead.

lardossian

I own all three systems and they all suck ass.

Fear my mighty, unbiased, and superior opinion!

You Are My Friend!

@Talleh: Yep, I reckon your post was spot-on.

Sathias

i think uncharted could be one. ratchet and clank could be one. gran turismo could be on. to a lesser degree, motorstorm.. Super Stardust HD and PixelJunk Monsters/Eden are both, to me, exemplification of the ps3 experience...

i think Metal Gear Solid 4 was an obvious one.. and i think that in the next few years there will be many more.. including the next God of War game, the new Twisted Metal game, and hopefully a Jak and Daxter for ps3.. plus..

..obviously LittleBigPlanet has a huge shot at being perhaps THEE defining title of this entire GENERATION of games. but.. that just potential, it will need to really explode and be a big hit, and the community functions need to be PERFECT, for it to really take such a monumental title. we'll see.

joeloliol

@Prathik: Absolutely.

GrandfatherParadox

@stupid_mcgee:

To be honest, the 360 doesn't even have that many defining titles. Molyneux didn't say the system had tons of them either, people here are just overreacting to one man's comments, which is kind of sad.

The PS3 has MGS4. Good game all around. Not defining. It took aspects of past MGS games, added a touch of Western- shooter elements and we enjoyed it. Again, "defining" is the last word I would use to describe MGS4.

Hey_guy

@Llost: there is constructive criticism and then there is what Peter is doing, and the fact that he is doing it when his game is near release just screams "publicity stunt" to me, hence his words are worthless now.

The Medicine Seller

FF VII is an amazing game. There's a reason why copies of it sell on ebay for $100+ FF8 ruined the series for me. Never touched another FF title after that. Though, I heard FF9 was fairly good.

I can understand people wanting to stand up for the PS3, it is a good system and it's only getting better, but you have to admit that it doesn't exactly have the strongest title lineup. The only PS3 games I care about are MGS4 and Gran Turismo 5, and I'm not alone in that sentiment. If you remove those, the PS3 really doesn't have much. If you remove Gears and Halo, the 360 still has quite a few titles. DoA, Dead Rising, Too Human, Mass Effect and Left 4 Dead looks pretty cool. Yeah, some are out on PC too, but I'm talking about titles exclusive to specific consoles.

stupid_mcgee

@The Medicine Seller: But if we don't listen to anyone in any company that's focused on one platform or just releases for one platform then we'd alienate alot of people. We'd only have the multi plat guys and they most likely wouldn't insult the consoles there going to put there games on.

Llost

kadaj24 scores don't tell much.. nintendogs 40/40? o_O

but yeah MGS4 is one of the best games. FF7 is indeed great as he says. Oh and the fact he doesn't mention Little Big Planet just makes me wonder if he lives under a rock or something.

anyways, I agree with You are my friend!. All three systems suck. My bro has a xb360 and I've got the ps3 and the wii. why? go figure :P

Elrinth

@stupid_mcgee: I wanna say that the PS3 does have system defining titles, most of which are just overlooked, as that they aren't huge multi-billion titles. When you think of the PSN, what do you think of? Art games like flOw and Pain (which could easily be argued it isn't an artsy game per se, but I beg to differ) Pixeljunk Monsters/Eden are just some of the games I think have defined what the system does from a downloadable perspective, as for disc based though? Yeah, the lines are a bit harder to read. MGS4 was amazing IMO, system defining? Almost. Was for me, as that I haven't seen anything like it on 360 or Wii. Come on, did Gears do a split screen boss fight? Nope.

Uncharted or R&C:F are also good examples, but are less prone to being completely original ideas. The R&C concept has been around for a long while, and Uncharted was a fun platformer, with stunning graphics, but yeah, neither really did anything new. LittleBigPlanet WILL define the PS3 though, mark my words.

CitizenInsane27

I just have one thing to say to Peter.

If the PS3 doesn't have that 'Ooomph' filled amazing, jaw-dropping moment that makes you amazed, and also doesn't have a system defining title yet....Why don't you make one?

CitizenInsane27

Hahaha, am I the only one who took issue with his "FF7 defined the genre" comment and the PS3 comment? XD Sure, FF7 was good and all, but I've played other RPGs that have had a much larger impact on me, like Dragon Quest/Warrior 3, Tales of Symphonia, Golden Sun...

Guess we just have to chalk this one up to a matter of perspective.

GhostWhoWalks

@ArmyofJuan: I own both too, but hardly ever touch the 360. Exclusives on the 360 side have been very quiet this year, especially if you're not a fan of JRPGs. Looking forward to Fable 2 though. (Can't be bothered with Gears 2, the first one didn't click with me.)

Shader

@Talleh: So "defining" games are decided by how many games are sold? I mean, I guess that's one way to look at it, but I always felt titles that aren't neccesarily all time top sellers, such as "Shadow of the Colossus," helped define the PS2 generation.

PS3's best selling game at the moment is Motorstorm with 3.3 million served.

By the way, MGS 4 actually has sold 3 million, not 2. GoW sold less than 5 million, albeit only slightly less at 4.7 million. Considering the install base of the PS3, I think that's pretty impressive of MGS4.

WolfmanWalt

I remember reading an interview in the back of Official UK Playstation magazine about ten years ago while he was still at bullfrog and said how impressed he was with Final Fantasy VII.

It's a shame he hasn't felt more of those 'oh my god moments', but I can't fault him for being honest. IMHO FFVII and FFIX are the amongst the best games ever.

steerpike

Eh FF7 defining moment? He must be easily satisfied. I found FF7 to be the step into a different generation, but in no way was it a "OMG I WET MY PANTS" kind of game. FF6 for the SNES was more "OMG I WET MY PANTS" than FF7...and FF6 had so many pixels but it had a much better story.

MGS4 is a great game, don't get me wrong. I bought it, called in sick for a day and was glued to my PS3. But I think the reason why it wasn't the one was because it wasn't for the majority. Not everyone is into it and it was a game for the fans I must say.

RyuriTatsujin

@Elrinth: He does seem to like LBP, but the game is yet to be released.

uzivatel

@Trailnutz:
"many" is a plural ;)

eagle14

Metal Gear Solid 4 gave me alot "oh my god" moments. But still... there aren't many games on either systems that made me say these three words.

Schokobaer

Oh, Handsome Pete. When Are you going to stop with the pointless statements?

Frologic

the reason MGS4 isn't a defining game is because it's a sequel that doesn't offer much in the way of originality. It does offer a ton of polish to the already awesome MGS series though. It's just nothing that creatively new. FF7 was different, it's not so much a sequel and offered a brilliant new unique feel.

Molyneux is clearly preparing everyone for LBP and his obvious talk on how it defined the system.

Ahmunnaeetchoo

For some reason, I still respect this guy, I honestly don't think he means anything serious about these comments, he seems like a "real" gamer so to speak, in comparison with other devs, albeit his actions do reek of fanboyism and favoritism.

Personally, the titles that I feel "define" the PlayStation 3, upcoming, and present, are MGS4, Resistance franchise, LBP, Killzone 2, Ratchet and Clank, the Uncharted franchise, and the one I'm looking forward to the most, the new Team ICO project, but I'd still love a next gen Jak and Daxter!

Sure they may not be up to the same sales as the likes of Halo 3 or Gears of War, but that doesn't mean they're not just as excellent, just like saying Folklore wasn't a charming mystery RPG just because it's not very well known.

Strife56

I don't want to come across as a flamer or troll with this statement, but what, really is the defining moment for the 360?

Halo 3? I can't buy that. Halo, I can believe, was the defining moment for the XBox original. But I've played all three games, and there was nothing so drastically different that made me think, "wow, this is what the 360 is all about." Halo is, arguably, what the XBox was all about. Halo 3 just felt like more Halo. That said, I'm not the biggest Halo fan, but I don't fault it because of my non-interest. I can recognize it's meaningful to the brand, but I feel it's time has passed.

Likewise, I don't really feel like Gears is a definitive experience. Maybe this is because I'm a PC FPS player and prefer it that way. Between the Halo series already standing firm as -the- console FPS, and the huge number of PC FPS's available, Gears also just seems like another game, albeit of good quality, on the 360.

I'm not saying the PS3 has one, though; in this regard, I agree with Molyneux. Like or dislike FF7, it had a significant impact on gamers and the nature of gaming. But it took what felt like a giant leap. Ever since then, we've been climbing up little steps. While the net effect is that we're at a much higher level, I think we're all still waiting for something that adds a new level of definition to gaming. The Wii seems to have found its niche amongst a wide audience, but it's not enough for us long-time gamers. We've just been boiling in a heating pot for so long that a 1 degree temperature raise doesn't cut it; we need a heat surge.

And, of course, I'm sure Molyneux thinks he has his fingers on the thermostat.

Testamonium

@wahrugene: Any examples?

Shod

@Nightshift Nurse: Mile High Colonic: it's not really a dig, he's clearly going to claim that LBP was the ps3's defining game. would make sense given that media molecule used to work for lionhead....

Ahmunnaeetchoo

@zoesch: "...he's the classic "I promised the moon but I delivered a piece of cheese" designer." - Are you sure he isnt working for Sony then? (Oh no he didnt.....;o)

Shod

Funny how digs at a particular console always seem to coincide with the release of a high-profile developer's exclusive on a rival system. Strange, no?

Nightshift Nurse: Mile High Colonic

Why are people all refering to the ps3 defining game? that was a previous article!! This is about those moment you gasp in amazement which mgs4 and uncharted had plenty. i notice he doesn't list his 360 moments! also why are people listening to a feaky looking dude that has realised his game is not getting all the hype he hoped for due the amazing line up of games this autumn. stop giving him free advertising.

Bum_Trumpet

@Sathias: I don't really understand the interest of home either. Seems like a something only a small percentage of the users will actually appreciate in the long run.

Gen.Grievous

"But have you seen many of those on the Xbox 360, Peter?"

Well, that's what the Mass Effect saga is for, silly.

justhesh

@Strife56: I don't think he's saying those games are bad or anything. I'm a PS3 enthusiast, but even I have to admit that the system doesn't have anything that has had sweeping moments for games. It's a hard thing to do that with a game--it's equally as dependent on the skill of the creators as it is the timing of the game.

Are the PS3 games good? Yes. Are they defining of the system, or of a new era of games? I don't know. You could argue it either way, but I think we're going to wait for the next jump in technology before we see something truly mind blowing. I hope, though, to be proven wrong.

Testamonium

Who made Peter Molyneux an industry spokesman? Does it pay well?

f0cus

translation:
im paid to talk crap about other systems other than wii and 360....

jackd4y

I'm probably the only person on here who owns almost every game system to date since the atari , and my PS3 still gets "touched" alot. =3

Archaenon

@CitizenInsane27: Because he works for Microsoft?

mind in rewind

@Strife56: Folklore was sooo impressive to me. One of the best games I've bought in years.

Archaenon

I must be weird. i own all three consoles and spend much more time with my ps3 then my 360. (i don't even bother with the wii anymore.)

im also weird because i don't think the ps3 needs a defining game. because, if you have a defining game, then your console has been defined. for example with the 360 you think (fps) and therefore microsoft will be getting more fps's then anything else.

if the ps3 had one defining game then that type would be a lot of what we'd see on the console. it needs several spectacular games, not just one. and the 360 needs something good that's not an fps.

and people keep saying these comments are flamebait, and while that may be true, a lot of people on kotaku don't seem to be responding with "omgz (insert console here) sucks!"

makes me feel like i left g4 just in time. (like 6 months ago.)

dojita

@dojita: I'm with you. My 360 is in the closet. My PS3 and Wii are hooked up but I play the PS3 more than anything. I really don't understand the development community right now. Stupid comments like these make no sense.

360 is popular and all but on one hand we have Wii as the market leader but very few developers are taking it seriously. Even though reports have been recently released to show that 3rd parties can be profitable on that format regardless of the Nintendo juggernaut. Of course, if 3rd parties stopped releasing trash on Wii and expecting it to sell then maybe things would be better for them overall.

Then we have PS3, where even members of the development community turn into raging fanboys (as seen by peter's comments) by ignoring the best the console has to offer. Games that you would be hard pressed to find a equivalent on any other platform. Defining moments? like I mentioned earlier, when 360 or Wii debuts a game that's going to give me 32 player online battles over land and air with no lag on huge maps like Warhawk....let me know. The other examples have been well represented so I'll stop there.

Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.

A MS employee talking bad about the PS3, truly this is the story of the century.

EmeraldDragon

@kadaj24: now THAT'S an awesome point.

But I understand that Peter has get in the spotlight because FableII is due soon. He also realizes that Fable was overhyped and under delivered. As such, FableII may very well be more of the same from him. I wouldn't be surprised. Hacks usually have the loudest voices except for people that are passed their prime and hope to hold on to former glory.

as such, if MGS4 wasn't a defining moment he's full of shit. Actually, MGS4 had quite a few. The first 32 player Warhawk battle I had was a defining moment when I realized the PC would be the only other place I would get such gaming. 40 player Resistance battles that were all out wars...defining. Playing Uncharted to the end and realizing what happened to Sir Drake and watching Eddy Raja check out was sure as hell a defining moment. Putting Gran Turismo 5 and MotorStorm in my PS3 for the first time and seeing the graphics on those games after my first race and thinking "I can't believe this is what the game LOOKS like" was definitely a defining moment.

Next up....Wipeout HD tomorrow. If that's not going to be a defining moment, I'll choke someone.

Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.

@joeloliol: agreed. If you look at what is being offered on PS3 and PSN there are some real gems there. I just find it disturbing that so many people ignore these titles. Many people will say "I agree with him" but they've never played Uncharted, they've never played PJ Eden or PJ Monsters, they never played GT5: Prologue, Motorstorm, Warhawk, Super StarDust, Resistance online, MGO...hey but it's like they say...if you don't know, you don't know

Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.

Every systems has their faults and their strength.

To me PSx was the greatest Sony station ever. Then PS2 came along with a bang and even rocked pretty hard.

I do think though, that Sony has become comfortable this generation and now the 360 has taken over. Who knows maybe something new will be better next generation.

As Snake would said "War has changed"

macr0planet

@You Are My Friend!: lol!

macr0planet

@Sathias: @Talleh:
agreed some valid points for sure.

evetssteve

@Prathik: If it looks like flamebait and smells like flamebait and feels like flamebait...chances are...it's flamebait.

Sandvich

@Rinaldus: agreed.

that game was full of OMG moments. A real tour de force of gaming, i tells ya.

zanzibarlegend

Peter Molyneux,

Go get in the Littlebigplanet Beta. i hear its the shit.

yours truly,

ZL

zanzibarlegend

***MGS4 SPOILER***

I really thought seeing Big Boss was an "Oh my God" moment.
As was slamming the triangle button to get through the microwaves.

***SPOILER END***

But that's just me, I'm sure NO ONE thinks the same way.

Rinaldus

@Kaonazhie: I hate him.

SeraphX2

These don't really seem like digs at the PS3 to me. But more like valid points that I can agree with as a PS3 owner. Yes, MGS4 was nice, but after I got past the fanfare and finished the game, that was it, nothing left there to interest me any further. And no PS3 game has had that pronounced "OMGZ! This teh aewsome!" effect on me that has left me down right excited to actually own one of these.

PureEgo03

His Creepy factor gets worse and worse.
He looks and acts like the Doctor from that Tom Hanks movie "The Burbs".

Patient

@Ultraseamus: Allrighty then, apparently I managed to end up in the wrong topic, my bad. As for this topic... I agree with him, the PS3 has not quite reached that point, but with it time.

Ultraseamus

I would not mind seeing someone do the MMOFPS the right way.

Ultraseamus

@Garo: So what was he supposed to say? Many of these so called "stupid comments" are only stupid because the reader WANTS to take it as a jab at a something else. To me it sounds like he said he didn't think the PS3 has a true defining title at this time.

R3load

FFVII is a great RPG. Fable is an overhyped but solid game. Know your place, peter.

e-friend

@eagle14: "many" is plural, not "a" plural

neoraul20

@slackjawed:

Heh, I was waiting for somebody to bring up MGS4.

I've played it. It wasn't a defining title for me. It didn't make my jaw drop.

It was just like all the other Metal Gear games, which I never liked.

So, while it was defining for some people, it certainly wasn't for everybody. You know why?

There is no defining game for everybody.

beta_angel

@zoesch: Man, I'd love if they resurrected some of Bullfrogs hits. Magic Carpet is one of my top games ever.

skrame ☆

Most of all sonys ps3 esclusive games gave me wow moments like the first time I played heavenly sword and it gave me facial animation and acting unlike anything I played in a game before. My jaw almost droped when I first encountered the waterfall and sunken tanker scene in Uncharted. The first level in rachet and clank almost made me crap on my self due to the insane pixiar quality graphics and animation . Another memorable moment was playing warhawk for the first time and being bombarded by missiles , tanks , bullets , and air plane fire at the same time it was war at its finest. The ps3 exclusives rock with amazing production value and quality so I don't know what games hes been playing :)

Ether02

@ShirtGuyDom: Forgot to mention that this fall is going to do nothing but bolster this lineup.

ShirtGuyDom

He sounds like every other internet troll:

"ps3 suxx and no I'm not some xbot ive got all three systems and the ps3 doesnt have ne good games."

I used some harsher wording than Molyneux did, but the parallel is still evident.

The PS3 might not have that "killer app" yet, but who cares? It's got MotorStorm and GT5 Prologue, MGS4 and Uncharted, Resistance and Rachet & Clank. I hate the fact that this stupid "every console needs this one magical killer app" mentality is preventing people from realizing that the PS3 already has a great lineup.

ShirtGuyDom

@everybest:
There goes your problem play more ps3 exclusives and you will see the light

Ether02

MGS 4 wasn't exactly definitive, even though it was a masterpiece. LBP may be the definitive title Mr. Molyneux is waiting for. Molyneux may say some retarded things, but they are nothing near as retarded as Mattrick.

Grandreaper999

You know... people tend to always call people who comment negatively on developers opinions about a certain system "fanbois"... but to be honest, where exactly is the proof that these developers themselves are not "fanbois"?

When I take a look at the opinions of someone like this guy or Gabe Newell you know what I see? I see 360 fanbois.

It's one thing to not develop for a certain system, it's another thing to constantly talk down every system except the one(s) you program for.

goddessakasha

@Schokobaer: i would say that mgs4 was the first game to give me those "oh my god" moments this gen.

more than once while i was playing it, i thought to myself, "this is why i'm a gamer." if that isn't defining, i don't know what is. mgs4 was bliss.

this gen however, there have been some definite growing pains. for my money, it's just not as exciting as it was during the last gen's heyday.

bialia

So wait, a game now needs to have gaming journos bend over and say "aah, 10 on 10!" as well as stupidly large marketing campaigns to be considered defining. Now supposedly that would be a good yardstick if you can ignore their incessant bending over.

Not impressed, Molyneux.

Chupakun

Hasn't he said before that he is really looking forward to LBP?

I agree somewhat with what he's saying, but there loads of original titles on the PS3 that have made me shun my 360 for a week or so, but nothing super special.

BizarroMatt

@Ketch2k8: To me, if they put something like Home on the 360, I wouldn't be that excited. I think Microsoft tried that with Bob with limited success.

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Shin-san

@Llost: Yeah and then we'd be forced to think of ourselves!!

Theoutlet

Maybe if Molyneux could make a decent game, or any game that resembles half of what he spews/hypes up then he may have a valid point. It's like the kid in class with the worst grades claiming the work is too easy.

Tamachan87

Molyneux is just a buffoon who's head has been too large for anyone's good since Populous. He should just stop talking because every time he does, it just reeks of a sellout and flame bait.

Ithorien

@Theoutlet: *FOR*

Theoutlet

What 360 title has "oh my god" moments?

Squamden

You don't have to like him, but he's right. The PS3 just doesn't have the software and it certainly doesn't have that heavy-hitter it needs. I mean, most people justify their purchase with "it's also a Blu-Ray player."

You rarely hear people saying they bought the system for one game (or two, or three for that matter). In fact, I have yet to put a single PS3 game disc into my console and I've had it for 3 months! It's a great movie player with excellent upscaling, but I just don't use it for anything else. On the other hand, my 360 is gaming heaven. Take my opinion for what you will, but most people (in America) feel the same.

nlangan

I still think FF7 is the best game I've ever played.. I don't know but I've never felt an experience like I have felt with that game.

But hes right hes not speaking as a MS employee, its just a game with experiences like FF7 have been created on the 360. Not on the PS3 (Yet)

I've felt experiences from Mass Effect.. the games presentation in general just blew me away for some reason.

I think Kingdom Hearts made me look at platforming RPG and saw it working perfectly.

FF9 was just epic and really impressed me with the visuals, even today the art is just amazing to look at.

The Wii has impressed me by keeping me smiling throughout Mario Galaxy its just so.. incredibly fun and colourful its hard to put the controller down.

When it comes to the PS3 though I honestly can't see any exclusive games that just stick out at the moment. I hope Little Big Planet will completely change that and make every system this generation have its defining game. Then I will be sure that this generation will have definately been the biggest movement for gaming both as a industry and a passtime.

flukielukie

I don't disagree with him, I just disagree that that's exclusive to the PS3. The only games that have come out this generation that have given me true 'wow' moments were MGS4, Dead Rising (with the hordes of zombies), and I guess the Orange Box.

I would say Metroid Prime 3, but it would make me sad because I no longer have a wii...

tehflyingwombat

@Grandreaper999: I think the reason people hesitate to call MGS4 definitive is because no one has accepted the fact that it's exclusive.

The other reason is that MGS4 isn't made to sell 8 million copies (like a Halo, or a Gears, or another 'definitive' title), it was made to first appeal to the fans and create a game that only true gamers who understand the tenets of gaming can enjoy.

It's got a well balanced serious story (even if the cutscenes were a bit long) as well as some hilarious moments integrated into gameplay (remember Johnny pooping his pants while you were fighting the Frogs? How about knocking people out in the drum can? Dirty magazines? Ipod?), as well as a really well balanced moveset. The game isn't perfect, but it's certainly my favorite current gen game.

I'd take MGS4 over any modern 'definitive' game. Most of you may think that makes me a Sony fanboy, but let me set you in the right direction: I don't give a crap about Sony, Microsoft, or Nintendo, I do however customarily suck Kojima's balls. I'm such a Metal Gear fanboy. You know why? Cuz those games kick ass.

tehflyingwombat

Thats funny.....I haven't seen any games on the 360 that have that ''oh my god'' moment or ''genre-defining'' titles......

LeLoi

*looks at Heavenly Sword, Resistance, MGS4, Uncharted, R&CF:ToD, Folklore, GT5P, Warhawk, Hot Shots Golf and Disgaea 3... among all of his multi-platform games*

Yeah... there's clearly no defining games on the system. Boy, I wish I had a real defining game, like Space Marine Shooter Guys 17.

maravi

is ff7 overrated? yes.
do the new consoles suck because they have little or no distinction as far as content that's put out? yes.
i remember times when i wish i had a next gen console, but i also realize that most things i wanted to play on them were overhyped. i dont appreciate molyneux trying to get mainstream points by praising ff7 either. he's a few hundred thousand kids my age and like 10 years too late.

kwizhader

@RandomPoltergeist: Everyone needs a hobby.

CyberSkull

@Llost: Wrong.

DoubleDeuce

You....don't know what bishonen means, do you? That, or you and I have vastly differing opinions of the prettiness of the male characters in Fable.

DamonCache