Hopefully future battlefield games will control better than the last one did...

2142 infantry combat was about as responsive as taking a sprint through a swamp filled with crocodiles.

outofreach

Nice. With the destruction present in Bad Company, and how much further that could be taken with PC, having a more nimble character that could leap distances could make for a very interesting gameplay dynamic.

crsdfr

a parkour class would be sweet, as long as you have a pistol and knife only

SPitFyRe666

i rather have a parkour ninja game.

kitsuneconundrum

i just hope the new battlefield isnt too arcade style

naosednax

This lost me at "more battlefield"

Arcon

That would be totally sweet, running and gunning across the tops of roofs,while folks shoot at you from the ground levels. It would be like the Matrix, the original movie, not the sequels. At least it would be till someone breaks out a tank and blows up the wall you were about to climb up.

Salen

All that would make for one extremely irritating BF game.

WretchedSpawn

Parkour class hmmmmmmm. In a city that would be amazing but what if you got stuck in the middle of a field uuunlucky.

Dappa

@Sanjo: No way!?!

Dappa

And people thought dolphin-diving was cheap...

DreamoftheEndless

Considering how buggy all dice games are I'm looking forward to the glitches we will see if they try to put those into battlefield games.

dsmx

@enewtabie(Future LittleBigPlanet Master Creationist): Mirror's Edge?
XBLA?
..Really?

Sanjo

Isn't the Demo coming out soon? Like maybe today?

enewtabie(Future LittleBigPlanet Master Creationist)

I've always loved how rendering a body and movements more realistically makes the game seem that much more real. In games like Thief The Dark Project, Dark Messiah of Might & Magic, The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay, and even Halo 3, being able to look down and see your feet/shadow, along with seeing your bodies animations match the situation and movements, really solidifies how the game "feels" to me. Conversely, in, say, Half Life 2, where you are just a floating crowbar/set of hands, it seems that much more detached from the world. Not that I didn't love HL2, but having your entire body rendered just makes the game feel that much more immersive to me.

Strangelove

@stupid_mcgee:
I should've made it clear that I'm talking specifically about the Battlefield 2 series, not the Vietnam one. Never played BF:V.

stupid_mcgee

"Battlefield could really have done with a parkour class, would have blown the game wide open."

That would be awesome! :) Though, I still don't think it would be enough to convince me to buy another Battlefield. :( I tried it and hated it so much. The fact that longtime players had such a huge advantage from unlocking weapons made getting into hard. No clear objectives made each level a DM sandbox that often meant running around trying to find where the action is. You're in a battlefield, you shouldn't have to go looking for combat. I liked that it was tactical, but that was thrown to the wind because everyone just used vehicles to bombard the crap out of everything, relegating ground troops to useless fodder.

All of those reasons are why I sold it and bought Quake Wars instead. I prefer the advance/defend objective-oriented gameplay so that you always knew where to go for combat. Ground troops are useful and relegate vehicles to being useless is many cases. You get rewards and power ups for how well you do, but those are reset once you finish the campaign (3 mission set) or match, putting everyone back on even footing. It made the game much more about skill rather than grinding stats to get game-unbalancing guns. And yes, if a gun gives you vast power over someone new, that is unbalanced, unfair, and very deterring for a new player.

stupid_mcgee

being able to go suicide bomber by jumping from a roof to take out a helicopter in mid air would be awesome, but only in slo-motion

SPitFyRe666

Mirror's Edge Demo will be available on PSN/XBL today or tomorrow.

theEnemy

@dsmx:
I know... please, don't destroy my hopes with your inductive logic. :/

stupid_mcgee

@enewtabie(Future LittleBigPlanet Master Creationist): I don't know about that. Nothing I've seen states this.

Starting September 26th, players who pre-order Mirror's Edge at selected retailers will get an exclusive code that unlocks the Time Trial mode in the demo.

Time Trial mode challenges players to find the fastest route across the rooftops and through the streets. Players can upload their best time to the Mirror's Edge leaderboards for their friends to download and compete against. Players can see their friend's 'ghost' run as they race their way through the course to the top of the leaderboards. -

If you're really a big fan, you get a Runner Bag preordering from GameStop:

GameStop Exclusive Mirror's Edge Runner Bag

* Identical in-game bag carried by Faith and other Runners to transport sensitive information in a world totally monitored by the government.
* Fits your PS3, XBOX360, or laptop for gaming on the run.
* Seven individual compartments keep your information safe and secure at all times.
* Adjustable shoulder strap and handles included.
* Pre-order your bag today, while supplies last.
(same source as above)

FWIW, I ordered my PC version. $10 cheaper than console. :p

stupid_mcgee

They should go back to making Rallisport Challenge 3 while they're at it.

I'm still waiting for Microsoft to make RSC2 360 compatible.

TheContender

Weren't all these features (again except wall-running) implemented in the massively under-rated 'Breakdown' on the original Xbox?

I don't see why no one would try to create a new style of combat using a more fluid and parkour style movement system. I mean in the most basic examples from 'Gunz' to 'S4 League' there definitely seems to be a lot of promise there (Maybe Half-life Mod 'The Specialists' too infact).

XanderSan

@theEnemy:
proof?

teasa94

@theEnemy: Pictures/link? We need some proof here, after all, nothing on the internet is built around blind faith.

AndrewG009

@Mit:
Good points. Unfortunately, I guess I didn't play those servers. :(

I still want to give the series a chance, and I probably will pick up BF3 to try playing it on a more level playing field. I hope DICE has at least thought about borrowing Quake Wars' "series of objectives" gameplay. I think the BF series could really benefit from that and it could really expand the tactical depth of the game.

stupid_mcgee

@theEnemy: WTF? You guys don't trust me ?

k fine.

[www.n4g.com]

theEnemy

@stupid_mcgee: There are plenty of veteran players that still use starter weapons. There are some classes that benefit from them obviously (spec ops, the rocket guys), but a lot of the starter weapons for medics, assault, support, snipers, and engineer, are often used by advanced players. If anything they're actually just harder to learn to use in order to bring out their potential (which is in some cases better than unlock episodes).

You also have to play in a good server. A lot of vehicle servers have ace pilots in them and a bunch of uncoordinated, noob teams, who just get raped (the pilots don't even go after each other usually). I only play infantry only nowadays, and it's great. I play in a 64 man server (IMA) where the teams always squad up, and plenty of people talk.

I also like the more open approach. If you know the game, you know where action is, and if you're playing in the more infantry oriented levels, knowing where action isn't is actually more important.

I'll agree it sucks in most vehicle servers, especially now in the game's life, but it doesn't sound like you experienced everything the game had to offer.

I can't wait for the next battlefield game, especially if they put more physical elements in it (sliding around a corner shooting? Hell yeah).

I thought Battlefield 3 was a bit closer though. This news sounds like they haven't worked on it at all :\

Mit

@TheContender: This, although James "if it isn't Japanese weeaboo stuff, it's crap" Mielke would say otherwise. Did anyone ever tell him that Mirror's Edge and LBP weren't Japanese weeaboo stuff?

twinturbo2

Parkour class+ capture the flag + city= potential awesome.

Numanoid

the parkour class sounds like a good idea..

chikarachi

@stupid_mcgee: Quakewars did a good job with leading you by the nose to the action, buts thats about all it did. It's also about 2 years newer than BF2 and year newer than 2142, so yeah I would expect some improvement on that. As for unbalanced weapons, the unlockable hvy MG in BF2 was a joke, both standard weapons give you a much tighter spread pattern. In 2142 90% of people use the Voss, which you can unlock in your first couple of session's if your any good at all.

Why does a newbie deserve the same level of equipment as someone who's a vet? What the point of being a veteran player if there are no rewards. I think your forgetting that everyone's a newb at some point and if your not going to play a game because people who've played longer have an "unfair" advantage, your going to have trouble finding games like this to play as the genre evolves...

The BF series has a ton of warts, not the least of which is the horrid support from EA, but if you want large scale action like this, I'm convinced its the only game in town.

Pwnieboy

@stupid_mcgee:

I absolutely love Battlefield 2. When playing with others, I really hate vehicles. The game runs alot better and is alot more fun if you play on No Vehicle servers.. trust me!

hooligans

@theEnemy: alright, sorry it was a false news.

theEnemy

If they have s truly destructible environment than being able to wall run would be made a moot point when your adversary blows the wall your running on away. That sounds pretty awesome too though.

jacke1

@naosednax:
Hope? There's no hope, it's only going to get more and more arcadish.

1Mystic-G

@outofreach:

That sounds... pretty responsive. I mean, you would have to run fast to not get eaten by the crocodiles. It reminds me of some random cartoon which has a character run across the swamp by stepping over the snouts of the crocodile.

dakimstar

@DreamoftheEndless: Didn't run into as much diving as I did bunny hopping. Until I started being more selective with my servers it got to the point where the ability to skeet shoot became a required skill.

Mobility is great and all, but this would probably end up being something that detracts greatly from the ground combat/tactical bearing of these games. Like people not actually fighting because they're waiting to fight over the newly spawned helicopter. I forsee a bunch of people just swinging around and slipping from window to window,necessitating some sort of rifle line defense at the flag...which may not be possible if your whole team is being newb-munkies as well.

Parsifal

If battlefield 3 had parkour id laugh because it shouldn't be call battlefield. It should be called pointless.

Theres no need for parkour in any sort of battlefield game.

daz0rz

Parkour Class would be awesome- It'd be like TF2's Scout.

SapnaDawli

It'd be awesome to see your character actually jump onto a tank and get in a-la Farcry 2 where your character gets IN the vehicle. Battles would be more realistic, and people would get killed a lot 'cause of it, awesome.

Brlito

I believe they don't actually mean there will be jumping around on rooftops and the like, perhaps movements more associated with what real soldiers might do, for example, climbing over a ledge,crouching under an obstacle, being able to look down at your body (and check for wounds) etc. This would definitely help make the game more immersive, as your character would have a physical body rather than just being floating arms holding a gun in a virtual world.

TressaEspical

There's already an indy team who has made the acrobatic shooter evr 8 years now.
Of course mirror's edge looks sexy but i wonder if Dice isn't just taking advantage of its production power after playing Urban Terror (free game from a really small indy team without the power to make it big).

Sirke

Considering how bugged BF2142 still was after 8 months and 20+ patches, I sure hope that this decision is a good one and doesn't complicate things more for em. I played that game until something better came out and couldn't bare myself to go back to play it, which is saying a lot because I have always reinstalled old games at least 3 times before I usually stop playing them.

GlItCh017