first person shooter
Bungie Secret Game is a 'New Halo 3 Campaign Experience'
Posted by Brian Crecente at 1:20 AM on September 26, 2008
Tipster Nick F points out that the Bungie teaser for the new whatever the studio is working on just hit Xbox Live. With it comes this succinct, but a bit more to the point description:
"High action and deep mystery await players in the new Halo 3 campaign experience. Prepare to Drop!"
So does that mean an expansion pack and not that Mario-esque Halo platformer I've been dreaming about? Only time will tell.
Hit up our gallery discussion post if you want to get all nitty gritty with what we know so far.

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Sweetsauce
Posted 1:51 AM 26/9/08
@believable_liar: I completely agree with you. I'd like to be the first one to say Polyphony Digital should stop making racing games already. I mean god, we know you can make driving games, do something else now. Its soooo done already. You're supposed to be one of the best game companies out there, can't you do something else?
/sarcasm
Sweetsauce
Sweetsauce
Posted 1:47 AM 26/9/08
@TheFamous1: Clearly the 8 million+ people that purchased halo3 must agree with you... Heres a tip, if you're tired of Halo3, clicking on articles that reference it won't help you. I'd suggest staying away, leave it alone and move on. See what i did there?
Sweetsauce
Demonbird
Posted 1:47 AM 26/9/08
If they added the stuff originally promised in the halo 3 adds that would be nice.
I felt ripped off because of that.
I don't know if I will even bother with this though.
Halo 3 campaign wasn't good enough IMO to warrant a second helping expansion or not.
Demonbird
macr0planet
Posted 1:46 AM 26/9/08
@xAnarChisTx: Thanks for the reply, to all of you.
macr0planet
JustJake
Posted 1:46 AM 26/9/08
The real Halo 2.5. I do not mean that as an insult either. It is probably what will tie together 2 and 3. At least that is what I gathered from the bnet forums. I only like Halo for the MP.
JustJake
macr0planet
Posted 1:46 AM 26/9/08
@Candlejack: Yeah I suppose you're right. If it can make money, then you might as well explore your possibilities, simple business. I guess we could say the same for any other game out there that has a large following.
Halo, Half-Life, Madden, Metal Gear, Mario, Zelda, Warcraft, etc...
macr0planet
Salen
Posted 1:45 AM 26/9/08
@Eville1 says SKUse me a sec.: I'm hoping for Oni 2, myself. :) But this ODST Helljumper DLC might be good too. But seriously, am I the only one who wants Oni 2? Probably am.
Salen
believable_liar
Posted 1:45 AM 26/9/08
I said it once and i'll say it again, HAHA more Halo for you 360 owners. Seriously though, can't Bungie come up with something new? I man if there one of the best game companies out there, why are they just sticking to one universe. We get it you made 3 FPS games. What else can ya do ?
believable_liar
Shiryu
Posted 1:45 AM 26/9/08
This is not what I was expecting... at all! T_T
Shiryu
MrBrutesnipe
Posted 1:44 AM 26/9/08
@Eville1 says SKUse me a sec.:
You know what would also be awesome? Letting a studio do whatever it chose to do. There are others out there you know?
Halo has enough of a following for this to be big news, get over it.
MrBrutesnipe
Sweetsauce
Posted 1:42 AM 26/9/08
@jwpunk: Duh obviously success = not being halo. I mean halo is the sux. I read somewhere dat its not good cuz its like a generic or something.
/sarcasm
Sweetsauce
Eville1 says SKUse me a sec.
Posted 1:40 AM 26/9/08
Meh, yeah I can't seem to get worked up over this. Seriously, you know what would be awesome? Something new and creative from Bungie that wasn't Halo.
Eville1 says SKUse me a sec.
NunianVonFuch
Posted 1:38 AM 26/9/08
@macr0planet: When you finish it on the hardest difficulty you see master cheif on a ship in suspended animation drifting towards an unknown planet. WITH SEXY RESULTS...
NunianVonFuch
TheFamous1
Posted 1:37 AM 26/9/08
Enough with Halo 3... I'm sorry but it wasn't that great. Leave it alone and move on Bungie..
TheFamous1
Genose
Posted 1:37 AM 26/9/08
Seeing as how big Halo is as a franchise, I don't see this just being limited to just DLC.
Genose
latchkeykid
Posted 1:37 AM 26/9/08
When they leaked those achievements I thought it would probably be new single/co-op levels, with the new skulls etc. Maybe the planet in this trailer is the planet from the legendary ending and the ship chief is in crashes on it, maybe with flood (clean up flood?).
latchkeykid
DugDawg
Posted 1:34 AM 26/9/08
I'm excited. I'm really interested to see what Bungie will add with this possible expansion.
DugDawg
xAnarChisTx
Posted 1:34 AM 26/9/08
@macr0planet: *SPOILER* If anyone has never beaten it....
My view on this is that, in the very end of the game, it shows Master Chief going back to rest, since the fight is over, where to me it looks like it connects to the very beginning of Halo: Combat Evolved perfectly, where MC woke out of his deep sleep, giving the whole story somewhat of a circle. So, if anything, this expansion would probably take place between Halo: CE and Halo 3, not after Halo 3.
xAnarChisTx
jwpunk
Posted 1:34 AM 26/9/08
@DigitalHero: Well...
"first-day sales of Halo 3 reached $170 million in the U.S"
"Halo 3 has beaten other records as well; at least four million copies of Halo 3 were pre-ordered globally"
"On January 3, 2008, Microsoft announced that Halo 3 has sold 8.1 million copies"
How do you judge success?
jwpunk
Swift_
Posted 1:34 AM 26/9/08
Maybe this will make me buy the game.
Swift_
2SBs
Posted 1:33 AM 26/9/08
@macr0planet: Master Chief was left in stasis until he was needed again at the end of the game.
2SBs
Gossy
Posted 1:32 AM 26/9/08
Halo-esque Mario platformer?
[vids.myspace.com]
(I'm sure this is old news and I just missed the joke)
Gossy
Brian Crecente
Posted 1:31 AM 26/9/08
@peAr nectAr: whoops
Brian Crecente
Candlejack
Posted 1:31 AM 26/9/08
@macr0planet: Only the bazillion of gamers who played through Halo 3 will know, good luck finding them!
Seriously tho, at any rate, it's pretty naive to think Halo 3 would/will have been the last one...that's as if Nintendo stopped making Mario games after Super Mario 64. Makes no sense from a business point of view and gamers also want more of it. It's a win-win situation as long as we don't see Halo Sluggers if you know what I mean.
Candlejack
HamThePharoah
Posted 1:31 AM 26/9/08
@macr0planet: Masterchief drifting in space, alone on a ship with the AI Cortana. Yea, they did leave some lines open...
HamThePharoah
QuackerJacks
Posted 1:30 AM 26/9/08
@macr0planet: There are some gaps in the middle of the story, like what happened on Earth in between Halo 2 and 3 without Master Chief.
QuackerJacks
QuackerJacks
Posted 1:29 AM 26/9/08
@Sandbox_Emperor: You could always try Marathon, Oni, or Myth.
QuackerJacks
macr0planet
Posted 1:28 AM 26/9/08
I didn't play Halo 3, but from what I understand wasn't it the end of the story? Or did they leave some lines open? Anyone know?
macr0planet
sh0tgunn0strils
Posted 1:28 AM 26/9/08
Call of Halo 3: Modern drop pods.
sh0tgunn0strils
peAr nectAr
Posted 1:27 AM 26/9/08
I think you mean "Mario-esque Halo platformer," not the other way around, because if Bungie was developing a Mario game, that would BLOW MY FUCKING MIND.
peAr nectAr
Sandbox_Emperor
Posted 1:27 AM 26/9/08
ugh, more Halo 3? colour me uninterested. I'd like to see what Bungie can do outside that franchise
Sandbox_Emperor
DigitalHero
Posted 1:25 AM 26/9/08
Well, if at first you don't succeed try AGAIN.
DigitalHero
Isaac VanDuyn
Posted 1:25 AM 26/9/08
I hope they make some changes to the engine and we get massive single-player battles, like in the Halo 3 trailers. Probably not.
Isaac VanDuyn
Candlejack
Posted 1:25 AM 26/9/08
Yes, sounds an awful lot like DLC. Fans will be all over it, that's for sure, but I wonder where they would take the game for a Halo 4 at this point, specially if it'd be on the 360 or the next Xbox.
Candlejack
dowingba
Posted 1:24 AM 26/9/08
If it turns out to be that 2D platformer idea, it'd be the single coolest expansion pack to an FPS ever made.
dowingba
e-friend
Posted 1:24 AM 26/9/08
Finish the fight AGAIN
e-friend
J4ck 0f h34rt5
Posted 1:23 AM 26/9/08
New Campaign levels, anyone? Looks like we need to finish this fight. Part two, of course.
J4ck 0f h34rt5
.digiwalsh
Posted 2:10 AM 26/9/08
@Sweetsauce: This should be the 11th commandment of the internet. If you hate halo 3, Stop reading articles about it. Every damn article about it, the harters crawl out of the wood work to make snide comments and try and ruin other peoples fun.
What is even the point in that.
Sheesh.
Internet sucks tbh.
.digiwalsh
jwpunk
Posted 2:10 AM 26/9/08
@The Chicken Kicker:
It is funny isn't it?
The people fed up with Halo, claiming a lack of originiality. All seem to be the same people who go nuts over Gears 2, Resistance 2, Killzone 2, Call of Duty 5... I mean WAW. You know because its only the B-studio making the game.
jwpunk
DigitalHero
Posted 2:09 AM 26/9/08
@KaneRobot:
I play Halo 3 multiplayer daily and it was much better and rewarding experience than the campaign. Not everyone thinks the game is the second coming. Why don't you "Get over it".
DigitalHero
Sweetsauce
Posted 2:08 AM 26/9/08
@tzaketh: Obviously i can't speak for everyone, but Halo3 was the only FPS i've ever finished from start to end. I had a blast playing it co-op with a friend, specially the flying mission.
Sweetsauce
Demonbird
Posted 2:06 AM 26/9/08
@The Chicken Kicker:
I am a member of the Halo fanbase and I'm sorry but I am a little disappointed in this.
Everybody thought this was going to be a new non halo game and I was excited to see what bungie was up to. Instead we get more of the same... And honestly, most the fanbase doesn't care about campaign I would imagine.
Demonbird
KaneRobot
Posted 2:04 AM 26/9/08
@DigitalHero: Sales numbers does not determine if a game was a "success" or not.
In this case, only in the eyes of the snobby gamer.
Applying that overused cliche to something like 50 Cent Bulletproof is one thing...applying it to Halo 3 is just flat out stupid.
Halo 3 was a success on pretty much every level. Get over it.
KaneRobot
Eville1 says SKUse me a sec.
Posted 2:04 AM 26/9/08
@MrBrutesnipe: I never said it wasn't big news to Halo fans. I own all three myself. I also happen to know a few people in the company and have beta'd. As for "letting a studio do whatever it chose to, How am I preventing them from doing so? What's your point? I'm just expressing a hope that they finally get to do something else. Having a cash cow can be awfully restrictive to creativity.
Eville1 says SKUse me a sec.
gamegrump
Posted 2:03 AM 26/9/08
Played a little of this last night...
You are a Wall-E-sorta robot, and you have to follow around to places where the Master Chief has been and clean up all the corpses and blown fusion cores and empty Warthogs MC left in his wake. Basically, it is a progression through all of the Halo 3 levels, except it takes place about 30 minutes after the master chief was there.
You have to collect all the discarded weapons too, and stockpile them. That's a collect-a-thon aspect. It'll be awesome. I've collected 1000 plasma rifles! That will unlock some concept art. Or, you can trade them in with UNSC troops, who will sell upgrades to your wheels, so you can roll faster. There are better corpse-processor attachments, too, so you can chain corpses together for cleanup combos.
Don't forget online multiplayer. One variation is like the "coin matches" from the SSBBrawl. They take place on the same Halo 3 multi maps, but strewn with spent weapons. Person with the biggest gun collection wins. There's also a version with master chief/covenant corpses everywhere, called (coincidentially to GOW2) "Horde." You have to gather the corpses and horde them at your spawn point. And you have to steal from other people's spawn points.
Awesome. Bungie has done it again.
gamegrump
Fontane
Posted 2:03 AM 26/9/08
@The Chicken Kicker:
agree
Fontane
Fontane
Posted 2:02 AM 26/9/08
@Fontane:
Oh, and with the Flood as the enemy. Slowing the clip down between the messages "Please remain calm" and "Keep it clean" you can see the words "Danger, Flood Zone"
Fontane
The Chicken Kicker
Posted 1:59 AM 26/9/08
I'm really confused by most of these "gamers" commenting on here saying that BUNGIE should just drop the HALO series, are you all serious? Just because YOU don't enjoy the series the millions of others still support BUNGIE should get the shaft and have no more HALO? Please guys, grow up!
I can understand you guys may like BUNGIE and hope for something else, but good god, let the HALO fanbase have their games.
There is only 3 HALO titles out right now, THREE! How many other franchises has more than 3?? Resident Evil, Metal Gear, Tomb Raider, Zelda, Mario, Metroid, etc, etc. It's ok for them to have over 3 titles, but HALO, nah, stop them at 3, it's already too much, ooooooook.........
The Chicken Kicker
tzaketh
Posted 1:58 AM 26/9/08
@Sweetsauce:
Well, do you measure success by sales or by an amazing game? I'd say Halo 3 succeeded at sales, and succeeded at being a good game. Good, but not great.
Then again, Wii Carnival Games sold pretty well, too.
tzaketh
Super_Koopa
Posted 1:57 AM 26/9/08
I know I'm not the only one when I say I've grown a little tired of Halo. How long are gamers expected to ride these coat-tails? 5 more years? Count me out.
It was fun in the old days with the Duke, and a buddy playing co-op for the first time.
C'mon Bungie, time to move on to a new IP.
Super_Koopa
DigitalHero
Posted 1:56 AM 26/9/08
@jwpunk:
Sales numbers does not determine if a game was a "success" or not. The game had an average single player campaign. Hope that answers your question.
DigitalHero
Fontane
Posted 1:56 AM 26/9/08
Here's what I'm thinking.... new campaign (most likely not as long as the original), featuring ODSTs (Orbital Drop Shock Troopers) as the player controlled characters seeing as MC is no where near earth or her colonies (has to be a human planet since Traxus has a presence there). This would also explain the "Prepare to Drop" line seeing as ODSTs drop directly into combat... it's kinda their thing.
Fontane
Americo
Posted 1:56 AM 26/9/08
It'll be Halo 3D!
Americo
Codman24
Posted 1:55 AM 26/9/08
Hey kotaku,
[www.joystiq.com]
Codman24
Archaotic
Posted 2:33 AM 26/9/08
@chimp_o_death:
My thoughts exactly. Depressing, huh? It's like Brokeback Mountain, only with video game developers instead of cowboys.
"Ah wish ah could quit you, Hay-lo!"
Archaotic
Archaotic
Posted 2:32 AM 26/9/08
Great...more Halo. Why, Bungie, do you feel the need to spin off one franchise into total obsolescence? I thought they wanted to do non-Halo stuff, and that's why they broke off from MS.
Ah well. Maybe by the time the next generation of consoles comes out, Bungie might resist the siren call of Microsoft Moneys and work on something new again.
Archaotic
GhostWhoWalks
Posted 2:31 AM 26/9/08
@believable_liar: That's like telling Blizzard to stop making Warcraft games. T_T
GhostWhoWalks
GhostWhoWalks
Posted 2:29 AM 26/9/08
@Benjammn: That's because there's nearly a decade separating those games from their predecessors. Also, people are much less divided about Diablo and Starcraft due to their inherent awesomeness.
But back to the matter at hand, if Bungie does decide to add these levels onto the ending, that'll be pretty disappointing. I mean, they had this big, decisive ending that had a few ties in the beginning of the first Halo and such, then they just pull the curtain back up and shout "JUST KIDDING!"
More co-op levels to play through will certainly be plenty of fun, but doing it at the cost of Bungie shooting its own story in the foot (not that they haven't done that before, but...) would not be doing Halo any favors. :/
GhostWhoWalks
chimp_o_death
Posted 2:29 AM 26/9/08
So correct me if I'm wrong (as I'm sure some of you will), but this is how I understand what's going on:
1) After doing nothing but Halo for nearly ten years, Bungie starts grumbling how they don't want to be doing Halo for the rest of their lives under Microsoft.
2)After some apparent bad noise behind the scenes, Bungie is emancipated from their cruel MS overlords. Much talk about how great it is to be out on their own and not tied to just doing Halo over and over.
3)At E3 when MS puts the kibosh ont the exciting news from Bungie, Bungie's feelings a further hurt. Thank goodness we can hear about the exciting new projects soon, though.
4) And now, a viral cock-tease...what exciting new stuff can they possibly be sending our way?
5) The reveal: some more... Halo.
chimp_o_death
Demonbird
Posted 2:24 AM 26/9/08
@The Chicken Kicker:
I think old bungie fans can say they are milking it. There are what? 4 halo projects from different companies in the works right now?
Bungie couldn't take a break and make something new and then go back to halo?
I don't think they should abandon Halo, I just think they should take a break. Worked out well for insomniac with resistance.
Demonbird
G_the_fresh
Posted 2:21 AM 26/9/08
I just hate to see people hating halo3 as a game, because it's popular and other people play it than hardcorez. Sure, there are lots of idiots playing it, but that doesn't mean it's a bad game.
Actually I think it's one of the best games I've ever played, right after baldur's gate and couple of others.
Don't hate the game, hate the player.
G_the_fresh
The Chicken Kicker
Posted 2:20 AM 26/9/08
@Demonbird:
It's alright to be dissapointed, but all these children keep saying that BUNGIE is milking HALO, it makes no sense.
Who in their right mind would pull the plug on something that gives MILLIONS of people a great time? It would be completely stupid of MS or Bungie to say, "no, that's it, enjoy what you got for the rest of your time with us"
I loved Halo:CE, LAN parties and my favorite part was playing CO-OP with a good friend. Halo 2 got me into Online Gaming, something before that I never wanted to get into. Halo 3 pushed boundaries with the Film features and gave me one of my most favorite things for the 360, 4P CO-OP CAMPAIGN. I didn't get into the MP as much as I thought, but that's because of COD4's MP.
Anyway, having an updated CAMPAIGN for DLC is just the right thing to get me to play this again with my good friends.
The Chicken Kicker
dowingba
Posted 2:19 AM 26/9/08
@believable_liar: Yep, Bungie have done nothing but make 3 FPS games. Wait, what are those "Vidmaster" achievements referencing? Marathon? What's that? Oh, and they keep mentioning "Mythic" this and "Mythic" that. Could that be a reference to the Myth games? You know, those RTS games Bungie used to make?
Seriously though. How long has it been since Bungie got separated from MS anyway? Like 6 months? How fast did you expect them to suddenly start pumping out all these fresh, original non-Halo games anyway? Especially when they told us, straight out, that their next few projects were still going to be Halo related, not to mention that they have a commitment to keep up maintaining Halo 3's community.
There are plenty of other companies not making Halo games in the meantime. Go play those games until the next non-Halo Bungie game comes out.
dowingba
Benjammn
Posted 2:17 AM 26/9/08
You guys clearly don't remember that Bungie is working on not one but three games. And I'm not sure if I'd even qualify this DLC as a "game". To quote they said: "Something old, something new, and something completely unexpected". So chill the fuck out. I'm pretty sure it doesn't take a whole studio to work on DLC, and I'm also pretty sure that they want to work on a different IP (whether it be completely new or Marathon or w/e).
And I didn't see any complaining over Diablo 3 and Starcraft 2....<_<
Benjammn
kidko
Posted 2:15 AM 26/9/08
Playable Flood plz
kidko
acez2087
Posted 2:14 AM 26/9/08
That is freakin' Smurf man. Expanding Halo 3's campaign is not only ingenious, but it allows players to either
A) Get a better understanding of the story if they add missions or levels in the middle of the story. and/or
B) Allow for an expansion of the Master Chief's role and story if they decide to add missions after the initial campaign ends at the final cutscene.
I can't wait now. It should be pretty elusive and exciting.
acez2087
The Chicken Kicker
Posted 2:54 AM 26/9/08
@Demonbird: No, you miss understood me.
When I said "5-10 years AGO", i'm referring to games that don't get extra content. When HALO:CE was released in 2001, we never got extra content for it, no DLC, no expansion, no nothing. But in this day & age games DO get extra content.
I'm not telling Bungie fans to wait for their imginary title that doesn't exist. I'm saying that there is no reason for BUNGIE to STOP making updates for HALO 3. There is no way they should abandon ship on a title that is only a year old & had ONE MILLION people logging in on DAY ONE!
Also, like others have mentioned, their whole team isn't devoted to just HALO.
The Chicken Kicker
jwpunk
Posted 2:51 AM 26/9/08
@DigitalHero:
Sales do determine if a game was a success or not.
Another way to determine success is reviews.
The Metacritic score for Halo 3 is 94/100 from 84 reviews.
Because you personally don't like the game, doesn't mean it isn't a success.
jwpunk
Re1gn
Posted 2:50 AM 26/9/08
@believable_liar: You're absolutely right!!! What they should be doing whoring out Chief, give the Halo community what they want... no need: Halo Kart, Halo Sluggers, Halo Badminton, Halo Extreme Volleyball (with Jubblies!*squeal*).
What I don't understand is that I don't think anybody has ever said "I want Kojima to make a racing game.", so why is it that players are all up in arms about a non-FPS Halo. The main point is that there are a LOT of Halo fans (personally I like the campaign, not too crazy about the multi), and I'm assuming that by giving more Halo... to Halo fans, makes sense.
But then again what do I know, it's just my $0.02
Re1gn
Darkest Daze
Posted 2:48 AM 26/9/08
@Eville1 says SKUse me a sec.:
Made me think of this: [www.penny-arcade.com]
Darkest Daze
dowingba
Posted 2:44 AM 26/9/08
@gamegrump: Honestly? That is an awesome idea for a game. You should work for ...somebody!
dowingba
Archaotic
Posted 2:43 AM 26/9/08
@ysleiro:
Well, most of us who aren't thrilled about the news aren't haters. I'm a long-time Bungie fan who owns Marathon, all the Myth games, and all three Halos.
I'm just sick of that universe and I was hoping to see something new out of them, considering all the hubbub they made while quitting Microsoft seemed to point towards it. Now they're just back making Halo again and it feels like all that big talk was just that, big talk. I'm not hating, I'm just...disappointed.
Archaotic
ysleiro
Posted 2:43 AM 26/9/08
@Archaotic: It's called an expansion.
Welcome to gaming. I guess you have been under a rock for the past 20 something years.
Who complains about an expansion ? !!!
ysleiro
Demonbird
Posted 2:42 AM 26/9/08
@FyreWulff:
Okay look, they showed a lot of stuff that was approved by bungie. They never said this wasn't in the game. Their hype machine promised more than was delivered because of this.
We know it was another company, doesn't mean it was wrong.
Demonbird
Logic1
Posted 2:42 AM 26/9/08
Halo 3's story was as mediocre as any overhyped game in its class can ever aspire to be.
Now they tell me I should expect more mediocrity because the first part of the campaign wasn't mediocre enough?? ....such nonsense
Logic1
ysleiro
Posted 2:41 AM 26/9/08
All you haters need to stop clicking on the articles if you don't enjoy reading or educating yourself about the subject.
Halo (1,2 & 3) has brought countless hours of entertainment to my friends, family and I.
ysleiro
Darkest Daze
Posted 2:40 AM 26/9/08
@DigitalHero:
Well, a developer makes games for two reasons, because they like games and because they want to make money. Did they make a game: check...Did they make a shitload of money that's more then you'll earn in your lifetime: check.
Looks like a success to me. If you meant to say that it didn't succeed in meeting your expectations, then that's up to you...but in actual measurable terms that are used in the real world, it was a very large success.
Darkest Daze
Demonbird
Posted 2:40 AM 26/9/08
@The Chicken Kicker:
No one is talking about pulling plugs. The game has had multiple map releases and just had another autoupdate. And who are you to decry people for wanting something new and then tell them to wait 5-10 years?and it isn't just halo 3. Bungie has been nothing but halo since Halo CE. It's been almost ten years since work started on the first halo project. don't tell others they should wait.
Demonbird
FyreWulff
Posted 2:40 AM 26/9/08
@Demonbird: Nothing was 'promised' by the ads. They were worked on by a completely seperate company that wasn't even allowed to see the game. When have game ads ever matched up with the actual game?
FyreWulff
5thAveCocaine
Posted 2:39 AM 26/9/08
@Sandbox_Emperor: Well, I'm sure they'll get right on that for you... I mean, your satisfaction is teh importance, yes?
Ass.
5thAveCocaine
The Chicken Kicker
Posted 2:35 AM 26/9/08
@Demonbird:
BUNGIE isn't going anywhere, i'm sure old school Bungie fans will get their fill at some point in time.
But really, you do realize that HALO 3 has only been out for ONE YEAR, why pull the plug on the Xbox's flagship title? 5 - 10 years ago I'd agree, but really, we are in the age of DLC. We have developers continually trying to support their games (Burnout Paradise, for one) and BUNGIE doesn't want to let their title that put them in the spotlight just fade & die.
Nothing is wrong with that.
And personally, I didn't buy the new maps because I don't play MP that much, it's a great game and is fun, don't get me wrong. But I will buy DLC that makes me have a whole new adventure with 3 friends online.
The Chicken Kicker
Anton P. Nym
Posted 3:14 AM 26/9/08
@e-friend: no-no, we're at the "Pick Another Fight" stage now aren't we? (Wish I still had a link to that video...)
-- Steve
Anton P. Nym
strix
Posted 3:11 AM 26/9/08
I'd kind of laugh if it was DLC to play as the arbiter in single player :P
strix
chimp_o_death
Posted 3:09 AM 26/9/08
@Archaotic: Agreed. I, too, am a Halo fan. I booke off work for the release of Halo 2, got Halo 3 at the midnight launch (with cat helmet...yeah, I know), read a couple of the books, bought the graphic novel, etc. etc. etc....
But there's two issues here. The first was Bungie's widely reported stance regarding Halo ie."we want to do other stuff". I can play devil's advocate here and say that, contractually, they are obligated to deliver x amount of Halo content/product as part of their exit clause with MS. Or perhaps that until this content is delivered to MS, they can't make any other announcements. Whatever, just saying I can see a few reasons why this might be the first news out of Bungie after all the ballyhoo regarding the MS split and the milking of all things Halo.
But as for the second issue, ultimately I think I agree with Bungie. Enough is pretty much enough. We already have Halo Wars, the occasional Halo 3 map pack, and the Peter Jackson Halo thing (if this new project isn't it) in the works.
The best example is to look at what happened to the Star Wars series. Beset by diminishing creative returns since The Empire Strikes Back, it limped to a close with the prequel trilogy. At that point I said, love 'em or hate 'em, at least the cycle is complete and we can now move on to other (possibly more compelling) entertainments. But no, we get the Clone Wars CGI debacle, and some sort of TV show in the offing that the faithful are holding out hope for restoring the franchise to its former glory.
I'd like to think that Halo can avoid that fate by bowing out on a high. I thought Halo 3 was a great wrap-up to the series, if not perfect still quite awesome. Halo Wars look like it will be great too. But that thankfully aborted MMO should serve as the warning sign to Halo fans that don't want to see a truly great game bastardized.
chimp_o_death
Meldy
Posted 3:08 AM 26/9/08
@dowingba: Indeed... How about a Little Big Planet style mod for the Halo world...
Meldy
BryanH
Posted 3:04 AM 26/9/08
@BryanH: ^^^ Oops, didn't mean to put that there. Gotta get use to these new fangled comments. :)
BryanH
BryanH
Posted 3:03 AM 26/9/08
@believable_liar: How is more Halo a bad thing? Every Halo game so far has been fantastic, and when you combine that with their previous track record of Myth and Marathon like dowingba stated, they've yet to make a sub-par game. If they want to continue playing in the Halo universe, more power to them. I'm sure eventually they'll branch out with a new IP, and it'll be great when it happens, but for now I (and I feel a great deal many people) are more than willing to check out their latest Halo offerings.
BryanH
ysleiro
Posted 2:58 AM 26/9/08
@Archaotic: I see your point.
But it's my honest opinion as a junior programmer that Bungie has to be working on other projects.
Rest assured, a team as large as Bungie hasn't just been competing online against other Halo players all year long. LOLz..
They probably have more stuff coming down the pipe. Be patient.
ysleiro
ysleiro
Posted 2:55 AM 26/9/08
@Logic1: Being that I'm a Halo fan I have to be very careful I don't let my tastes influence my opinion.
I think in a way you are correct. The Halo story and the way it's told in the games didn't change much from H1 to H3. Then again I'm making said statement based on the fact that other games have since released with incredible stories (BioShock, Mass Effect, KOTOR etc). All these games had a chance to re-invent themselves, start anew, Halo had to follow a time line and the story had to coincide with the previous game (not much room to wiggle around).
I'm not saying the story was the bomb. Just saying it was good enough based on the circumstances. Could it have been better? "yes !" that doesn't mean the game is all of a sudden a PIECE OF CRAP (what most Halo haters want people to desperately believe).
It's like complaining about a 90s artist and saying how his style is old. Yes artists re-invent themselves but they can only do that so much.
Halo is Halo, there is a formula to it, a feel to it. If you don't like it, get COD. Or get lost because Halo is the reason why the FPS bar is so high.
ysleiro
Malevolentburrito
Posted 3:33 AM 26/9/08
Could this be picking up where halo 3 left off with master chief being woken up by cortana after many years right before dropping out of orbit on the mysterious planet shown after beating the game on legendary?
Malevolentburrito
Seinosuke
Posted 3:27 AM 26/9/08
@believable_liar:
"HAHA more Halo for you 360 owners"
Yes, HAHA @ us. The fact that more content is coming for a game that many of us 360 owners own and enjoy TOTALLY sucks. /sarcasm
"can't Bungie come up with something new? why are they just sticking to one universe."
Can't you come up with a new comment? Why are you just sticking to what several people have already said on this topic?
Seinosuke
Anton P. Nym
Posted 3:23 AM 26/9/08
@Sandbox_Emperor: Marathon: Durandal is available on XBLA, then. Or the entire Marathon Trilogy is available as freeware. I personally haven't found a copy of their 3P fighter-shooter Oni locally (I don't do teh ebay) so I can't make a suggestion there, but the Myth RTS series isn't too hard to find for the PC.
I'm satisified with this release being an expansion for Halo 3, given that it's only a year since Halo 3's release (psst, Valve, take the hint please...) and because I know, thanks to interviews by Bungie's studio manager Harold Ryan, that they are working on non-Halo stuff in parallel with this.
-- Steve
Anton P. Nym
Grive
Posted 3:20 AM 26/9/08
@Sandbox_Emperor: A lot. Bungie has been loved and worshipped since well before Halo.
Oh, and you seem interested enough to enter, read, and post a comment.
Grive
Grive
Posted 3:17 AM 26/9/08
@Meldy: Hmm... Forge is already there, so there is some kind of foundation already.
It's not such a huge stretch, you know=
Grive
BryanH
Posted 3:16 AM 26/9/08
@Demonbird: @FyreWulff: What exactly was in the ads? I'm not trying to be snarky or anything, I don't really remember the ads besides the one where there's a ton of model/toy covenent surrounding a similar Master Chief with a sticky 'nade in his hand, who looked up and turned on the grenade at the end of the commercial.
Though I will say that most game commercials have little to do with the gameplay of the game they're advertising, sadly. Either totally made-up like the Halo example above, or using nothing but cutscene footage. Kind of sucks, like saying you don't think the game itself is worth showing.
BryanH
moutski
Posted 3:42 AM 26/9/08
I can't help but be excited. Thank you for more wonderfulness Bungie. We don't even know what it is yet, but I'm sure it will be great.
Also, as much as people hate on Halo, the sheer amount of support that Bungie provides for this game is staggering. Seven new maps since its release a year ago with several more on the way, playlist updates, a brand new title update, and now what appears to be either a new campaign expansion or something like it? Honestly, what other developer provides this much support for any game out there on the market right now?
moutski
LiquidDarsh
Posted 3:39 AM 26/9/08
BAM!
That's what I predicted in the last post!
LiquidDarsh
Strife56
Posted 3:39 AM 26/9/08
@Darkest Daze:
No need to be so defensive, chill out, it's okay...
The game didn't live up to a lot of people expectations, in fact, it would be difficult for any game to live up to expectations as high as Halo 3's were, I personally enjoyed it, the multiplayer that is, I felt the campaign was lacking, but I'm sure I'm the minority here, along with DigitalHero
But then again, a lot of people say the multiplayer is the key aspect, I have many friends on LIVE who didn't play the campaign for weeks because the multiplayer had them hooked, I like that, but I also like a deeper campaign experience too, like MGS4 for instance, the campaign lived up to my hype and surpassed it, were as I loathe the online with a burning passion
As for "sales determine how successful and good a game is" I don't agree with this, if the world was this way, then I would have enjoyed GTA4 a Hell of a lot more than I did, and I would've hated Zack & Wiki, but that's not the way it went for me...
So let's all agree to disagree and have a group hug!
Strife56
KEELr
Posted 4:03 AM 26/9/08
EBGames got my Halo 3 copy once I finished the fight, guess Im shit outta luck.
KEELr
Logic1
Posted 4:00 AM 26/9/08
@Malevolentburrito:
Yes it is, and the clues aren't that cryptic either.
Prepare to drop?? Even a five year old could figure out the hint.
Logic1
Barbara
Posted 3:55 AM 26/9/08
What a drag. I feel sorry for the folks over at Bungie. Didn't they go independent because they were sick of making nothing but Halo games?
Barbara
Darkest Daze
Posted 4:29 AM 26/9/08
@Darkest Daze:
Also, don't read my post like I'm mad or bitter, just pointing out my original intent. Don't forget, it's the internet and it's easy to misread someones actual emotion on a subject.
Darkest Daze
Darkest Daze
Posted 4:28 AM 26/9/08
@Strife56:
I wasn't defending the game it's self. I thought it was ok...not great, but I'm sick of people who feel that their opinion is the only way to measure somethings worth.
I also loved Zack & Wiki, but in the real world, it was a failure. Eternal Darkness...great game, big failure. Something doesn't have to be good to be a success, and something doesn't have to suck to be a failure..that's all I'm getting at. If something's a success, it just means it sold enough to warrant more of it, because the only ones who can determine the success of something are the devs who are relying on that product to sell to make them enough money to stay in business.
The best devs who keep putting out games that don't sell, are also a failure, despite making great products. Works the same way in the music industry. Just look at all the great bands that don't make enough money to stay together and then look at people like Britany Spears. One succeeded despite a lack of talent, while great talent fades away.
Darkest Daze
Madeira
Posted 4:22 AM 26/9/08
@Barbara: Wait- you feel sorry for people that are doing what they want to do, what they are good at doing, and what will make millions of people happy while making a bunch of money doing it? Yeah, what a total drag, man.
Madeira
mahi
Posted 4:21 AM 26/9/08
I want to know if the game play will look like that. This cant be the halo 3 engine.
mahi
jimmyNewtron
Posted 4:51 AM 26/9/08
Unless it comes with a new game engine (like a next gen one not some rehashed halo2 one) and isn't dumbed down and isn't full of bungie arrogance then I might be interested.
but I think I'm asking for a hell of a lot there.
jimmyNewtron
DugDawg
Posted 4:40 AM 26/9/08
@J4ck 0f h34rt5: Gamespot ahs run a story on this. The games appears to be a downloadable expansion for Halo 3 that involves (UNSC) Orbital Shock Drop Troopers. I remember them as the guys that fall out of the sky in pods in Halo 2 and wear the sleek black uniforms. People are speculating that the game will focus on these troopers instead of Master Chief, and it will basically be a squad-based game in the fashion of Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter. It is also purported to be darker, bloodier and grittier. I, for one, am very interested.
[www.gamespot.com]
DugDawg
fearing
Posted 5:18 AM 26/9/08
@latchkeykid: Naw, the planet is New Mombosa, on Earth. There's a few signs you can see there in the trailer.
fearing
Acebuckeye13
Posted 5:17 AM 26/9/08
@Logic1: I happened to like it quite a bit, as a matter of fact.
Acebuckeye13
MrWhitmore
Posted 5:43 AM 26/9/08
@TheFamous1: agreed
MrWhitmore
CVV1
Posted 5:25 AM 26/9/08
@dowingba:
Bungie has said they're working on 3 new projects.
1 which is this
2 others that aren't to familiar
Congratulations, you are now well informed
CVV1
ninja_warrior
Posted 5:20 AM 26/9/08
Hey, i think a lot of you guys are missing out on something here. Go to bungie.net, you'll learn that this teaser trailer is "for one of [their] current projects" (bungie.net).
It's mostly likely a DLC or a side-project - ODST - set in the halo 3 world. It's not why the went independent and it's NOT their new "secretive" game, it's just a side-project to keep Microsoft happy...the company that actually owns the rights to the Halo franchise.
ninja_warrior
Mact
Posted 6:02 AM 26/9/08
Not a huge surprise.
Doesn't bother me as it seems to bother a lot of people, but I really don't see the reason for the pretension in separating from Microsoft if you're going to do the same thing anyway.
Things like this are the reason I see Retro Studios making more Metroid.
Mact
lumpi
Posted 5:54 AM 26/9/08
Omfg, it's an EXPERIENCE!
Is it MULTIMEDIA, too?
lumpi
Coxswain
Posted 5:52 AM 26/9/08
@Salen: you are, in fact, the only person who wants oni 2.
But don't feel bad.
Coxswain
Andronix
Posted 5:46 AM 26/9/08
I dont mind as long as its Halo FR3E!
Andronix
Toasticus
Posted 7:56 AM 26/9/08
This is a pleasant surprise to me. Hopefully they do a better job with this whatever-it-is than the regular Halo 3 campaign. If they could cut down on the cringingly bad cutscenes that'd be a bonus. Regardless, co-op campaign action is where it's at! Looking forward to finding out what this actually is.
Toasticus
XanderSan
Posted 7:47 AM 26/9/08
Weirdly, an advert popped up as I was playing Halo 3 about the new teaser video, but it adverised it as 'Bungie's New Game'.
Which doesn't sound like DLC to me. Anyone else get it? I was kind of busy and I'm not sure how the heck to find it again.
XanderSan
Toasticus
Posted 8:18 AM 26/9/08
@Barbara: No. They went independent because they didn't want to have to make Halo games, and probably also to give Microsoft less say in how and when the games were made. Even if you do actually want to do something, knowing that you have no choice can take the fun out of it. Also, this is not the only project Bungie is working on.
Toasticus
TheFamous1
Posted 8:15 AM 26/9/08
@Sweetsauce: I like Halo. I loved Halo 2, just Halo 3 wasn't that great. I was hoping for Bungie to release info on a new game or a new Halo game. Not new content for Halo 3.
TheFamous1
mugido
Posted 8:36 AM 26/9/08
There's already a 2D Halo called Halo Zero.
mugido
J-Fro
Posted 8:51 AM 26/9/08
I can't believe MS cock blocked Bungie at E3 over mere Halo 3 DLC. How would this have stolen thunder away from the FFXIII announcement? I don't get it.
J-Fro
VinLieger
Posted 9:43 AM 26/9/08
All i can say is i told ya so.
VinLieger
Strangelove
Posted 10:03 AM 26/9/08
@jimmyNewtron:
Bungie arrogance? A dumbed-down Halo 2 game engine? What the fuck are you talking about?
Why even come in to comment with blind Halo hatred? Oh, that's right, counterculture is the coolest!
Strangelove
Strangelove
Posted 10:00 AM 26/9/08
FUCK YES! AWESOME!
I've actually grown to enjoy Halo 3's single player on Legendary more than I do the multiplayer.
Strangelove
muffinmcmuffin
Posted 10:22 AM 26/9/08
@Strangelove: I am really really not trying to be a dick, but I really don't see why you gotta drag counterculture into all of this. I mean, counterculture is awesome! Counterculture was influenced by the beat generation! The beats were awesome!
muffinmcmuffin
R3load
Posted 10:42 AM 26/9/08
@R3load: And still, we will be online, meeting for a match of Halo, and CoD4 in 2010.
R3load
R3load
Posted 10:40 AM 26/9/08
@G_the_fresh: Truth be told. I think it goes beyond the fact that it is extremely popular. I think it is the fact that Halo's popularity destroys most of the largest names in the industry in both sales, fun, and re-playability.
The last two points are the most important for any game, watch how long halo and cod4 sit atop the list on LIVE, most games that have come out this year and next year will have long been played, beaten, and we will be waiting for part 2, 3 and all other iterations.
As long as you are not Bungie and the game is Halo, you can make as many of the same game as you like. Kojima does it. Ohh crap, did I just say that? Lol.
R3load
Strangelove
Posted 12:03 PM 26/9/08
@muffinmcmuffin:
Counterculture: the culture and lifestyle of those people, esp. among the young, who reject or oppose the dominant values and behavior of society
A general noun does not necessarily mean the beat generation.
Strangelove
schmete
Posted 12:22 PM 26/9/08
Prepare to drop? Like Orbital Drop Shock Trooper? That'd be cool.
schmete
Sonic84
Posted 1:38 PM 26/9/08
Damn it all I just sold my Halo 3.
Sonic84
kierz1080
Posted 1:35 AM 27/9/08
"prepare to drop"
does this mean that we will be playing as the osdt "drop soldiers"?
cus that would be really cool. and definately a new experience
kierz1080
arch4non
Posted 6:11 PM 26/9/08
You can't blame Bungie for wanting to milk the most they can out of their expensive game engine. Hopefully this new content will make sense of Halo 3's convoluted plot.
Campaign aside, I'm still waiting for the marines vs waves of flood multiplayer mode.
arch4non
OrvinStevenson
Posted 2:53 PM 26/9/08
If halo3 is the first fps you've ever played all the way through, then you owe it to your self to play the original. When it was released it was a great game, and it plays just as sweet so many years later.
OrvinStevenson
BettinaEarthworm
Posted 3:38 AM 26/9/08
Halo: Warhead
BettinaEarthworm
AlmiraCabaret
Posted 8:11 AM 29/9/08
Its obviously going to be DLC (which would probably run you 2800 PTS) or maybe on a disc, kinda like with the halo 2 heroic map pack. and if you watch the halo 3 vidoc it blatantly says that HALO 3 IS THE END OF THE TRILOGY. but this keep it clean stuff seems like an in between of some kind like to another game trilogy all together. BTW: bungie doesn't want to make a halo 4 but that doesn't mean another developer won't. question is will it b any good if its not made by bungie?
AlmiraCabaret
ZaideKoopman
Posted 5:51 AM 28/9/08
You are all haters. The Halo story was great, ranks right up there with some of the best sci-fi movies. If they have more story to tell, then I say bring it on. I am a big fan of halo and I will keep buying halo titles until they just aren't any good anymore. The first 3 games were outstanding, and seeing how this will be an add on for halo 3, it should be really good. Can't wait.
ZaideKoopman