It looks cool but I'm just sick of waiting. Its not like this is something I have to pay extra for. I would almost rather be kept in the dark till a week before the launch then they would reveal everything that I'm about to have. Same with home as well. Don't tell me "soon." Tell me when or don't tell me at all.

Nassin

@AndrewDB: well then Firefox is being an ass to me cause i already installed the Flash player a dozen time and it still tells me the same damn message , IE works without any problem.

Hunter217

@eyeshield: Agreed. I hate this new look. Nothing was wrong with the blades.

Ken Hikari

I don't care about online stuff just give me ALL SPLITSCREEN ON ALL OF MY GAMES!

*~*

Gigaheart

for some reason i never get emails from microsoft tried loads of times to get it to but they never do

adamr999

Man.. I can't wait for this dash to launch.

AndrewDB

Im just waiting for everyone to start bitchin about the avatars and completely ignoring the cool new features and the polished look. Because all anyone ever cares to bitch about is the OPTIONAL avatars. so let the flaming begin!

On a more mature note, i, myself am very excited for this update. i cant wait to really dig into the new features. and yea, i wasnt before, but am now officially excited about the avatars. thank you microsoft for actually giving us release dates on our upgrades...

spookythemayor

Mine worked in Firefox.. o.O

AndrewDB

@NoBullet: yeah you will be able to do that either with the left thumb stick or RB and LB.

Hunter217

You know, I don't care what the majority opinion is, I think this looks like a marked improvement over the current dashboard. I think it looks cleaner, smoother, and overall just more aesthetically pleasing. All the whining about it isn't going to change the fact that Microsoft is implementing it whether you like it or not.

moutski

info: INSTALL THE LATEST FLASH PLAYER
translation: either browse the site with IE or fuck off.

Hunter217

Does the actual xbox menu selecting work like the sites version, pressing it goes back and forth?

NoBullet

@sakipooh: It's a tad ironic... using flash over silverlight.

Roflcopter_Down: Wants you to follow HIM!

Keeps asking to install flash..and it's all up to date..:S

sakipooh

Does it tell us if we can shut this shoddy new dashboard off?

Thats something to get excited about.

eyeshield

All I have to say is their flash interface does not have volume control. Also those guys are high.

Mayu-mayu

@zkotaku:
Anybody else have any idea what this comment means?

reno84

the site is a little bit buggy.

I could do better )

Droid

Maybe this will pressure Sony to FINALLY release HOME.

SolidLatino83

multi-chat = win

MysteriousStranger

Which console is for you? Well say PlayStation in general and nintendo wii, that is what I say.

zkotaku

@moutski: I'm with you. There's far too much criticism for this new update, it looks lovely.

Microsoft have said a few times you dont even have to use the avatars if you don't wish to.

Lukehmuse

As much as people bash this, it's a good move by M$.

A Mii-ripoff, yes, but Nintendo isn't exactly doing anything to secure their original ideas, now are they?

The most frequent question asked by non-gamers when they played my Wii was "do they have such-and-such and item/hairstyle...etc.". This looks to have a ton of different options and it will be pretty cool to be able to create an Xbox Avatar.

I liked the Blades, but at the same time, it needed a refresh. This is a drastic change, but I think after it's out, people will get used to it and eventually embrace it just like many did when Nintendo announced the title of it's console as "Wii".

bennifer3000

@Hunter217: Firefox 3 just can't stop being total shit with Flash.

NecronomiconUK

@TheBassKicks:
considering its actually coming out this month Oct, or next its not false hype. its comin out soon, keep your pants on..

spookythemayor

I agree. This just has "False hype" written all over it.

TheBassKicks

@reno84: Nope, I even tried running it through Google Translation and all I got was this:

"What console is for you? PlayStation say, in general, and Nintendo Wii, that's what I say."

I especially like that Google actually capitalised the sentence more correctly than the original writer.

Kazzahdrane

@eyeshield: You can. You don't have to use the new dash.

NinjaJesus

@moutski: Agreed. Add to this the fact that MS have said from the start that if you want you'll be able to mostly ignore the new look and just use the original blades (which are being integrated into the new Guide), and there's very little to complain about. If it makes the interface quicker to use I'm all for it. Plus, copying games to the HDD: that's basically the best feature they ever could have added to the 360 given how noisy it is while spinning discs.

Kazzahdrane

@Lukehmuse: amen brotha!

spookythemayor

look at that Microsoft can do simple, clean designs after all, I like it... much nicer

scdnyc

The new interface looks MUCH better than the blades. I really can;t wait to have it installed in Novemeber.

Nexus-6

Vista "WOW!" effect coming to a Xbox360 near YOU!

StormdragonBlue

EDIT: I meant to say: "What he said was you never have to use the new dashboard"

MrsXBob

It looks nice, but I don't think its any better than the current dashboard. Merely an aesthetic update that isn't really necessary, doesn't really bring anything new to the table other than looking spiffy. I bought a 360 to play games, not look at the interface.. but if they improve the ability to access shared files/movies/music/pictures over the home network, that would be nice. As of right now the 360 is useless as a media center unless you have TVersity installed on your PC, and even still with that, its still light years behind a modded original XBOX with XBOX Media Center.

MafiaAce

Okay, clearing this up once and for all.

To all the people that keep going around telling everyone that you don't need to install this, or that you can disable it and simply use the old dashboard - YOU CANNOT. YOU ARE WRONG.

Major Nelson has been misquoted SO many times with this, he needs to just come out and explain it, otherwise there are gonna be a lot of p*ssed off gamers calling him a liar come November.

What he said was you never ever to use the new dashboard, and that you still have all the options of the original blades interface. What he means is that you can simply bypass the new dashboard like you can with the current one by setting the option to always go straight into the game you have in the 360 when you turn it on.

And what he meant by using 'all the options of the original blades interface' is that the guide has now been updated to LOOK like the blades. The major difference is that its small and in the middle of the screen. Yes it contains all the same options, but it is NOT the dashboard you currently have.

That dashboard (And this is the important part...) WILL BE GONE FOREVER WHEN YOU INSTALL THIS *MANDATORY* UPDATE

MrsXBob

@MysteriousStranger: It's also introducing through that same mechanism the party system people have been clamoring for for a while.

okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under)

As long as I can switch back to the old one, I'll be fine. It would be funny to make the avatar dance to the music though, but even my thinking that reminds me of how "for twelve year olds" this interface looks.

kylo4

@AndrewDB: Me either. ^_^

HT Tenrai

@Kazzahdrane: Well the blades show up in the Guide form now but it's generally the same form of blade navigation those who which to fight change can use. It's not exactly the current full screen blade scheme.

okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under)

Owen - the 'Inside Xbox' section has been in the dashboard for months now. It's updated pretty much daily either with release lists, news tidbits and blog-like updates, or exclusive videos straight from Microsoft. There have been loads of brilliant 'insider' interviews from Rare with lots of Banjo footage I've still yet to see online anywhere - plus E3 brought its own videos to the service too.

The layout may be new in the new dash, but its been there for a very long time already!

MrsXBob

@NecronomiconUK: And that's why I'm still running 2.

okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under)

I like the new layout better, still not sold on the avatars but not hating it anymore.

I'm kind of excited about this really.

Cakey4242564

I thought it was Fall already.

Me like. Looks like PS3 XMB + Wii Mii = MS's new dash.

Keep it up MS.

my questions still remain unanswered...

Can I copy my mp3s directly to HDD?

Is the dash 1080p native or 720p upscale?

neo177117

@Kazzahdrane: Yeah, too bad the game has to be IN the DVD drive even though your running it off the HDD.

It makes no sense, you might aswell save your 5GB for arcade games, and etc.

Microsoft is tricking you all, and you don't even know it.

"Hey everyone listen, you can now put the game on the HDD!"

"Hey look everyone a price drop for the 120GB hard drive, it's now $140!!"

$140 for like 120GB is flipping stupid. Did you see the relation?

Wizxon

@NoBullet: no, pressing it goes into that specific menu... how would you ever getin on the marketplace if you pressed a and it just moved along?

WolvesPat

@NinjaJesus: technically, you don't because you can just bypass it and use the guide instead.

but you DO have to download and install it. major nelson was misquoted about this... if you listen to the rest of his sentence he just talks about using the guide instead.

hope that cleared something up

WolvesPat

@Wizxon:

Maybe I'm exceptionally intelligent for a Scotsman, but I'm pretty sure I'm not being tricked.

It's pretty damn obvious why you need to have the DVD in the drive. They don't want people renting the game and then essentially "keeping" it.

I lose about 5(ish)GB on my 360's HDD, and I (hopefully) get faster load times, and my gaming experience is MUCH quieter. I'm not sure where exactly the trick lies...

You're arguing that MS is adding this feature to sell more 120GB HDDs? Fair enough, maybe it will work for them. I already have an Elite...so....I'm pretty happy to be honest.

Kazzahdrane

I've watched some of the videos on the page and I'm convinced!

WolvesPat

I got this email... right after an email from Xbox customer support over my one year old, red-ringed 360.

Gotta love irony.

bnpederson

@MrsXBob:

I dont know who is going round touting "YOU DONT HAVE TO INSTALL YOU CAN USE THE OLD BLADES" or "IT ISNT MANDATORY" all ive read in this thread is people mostly genuinely excited or hopeful for this update. we know we will lose the blades. the only thing people are stating is you dont HAVE to use the avatars. because you dont. Tho the blades DO however remain while your in game. so as much as you "think" your informing, your not. everyone who cares, already found this info out. so sorry to point out you didnt blow anyones mind. ;P keep tryin tho.

spookythemayor

@CitizenInsane27: ahh... rumors, like chicken soup for the fanboi soul,

spookythemayor

@SolidLatino83: From the rumors roaming the webs, Home will be out BEFORE this.

CitizenInsane27

@spookythemayor: You clearly didnt read any of the replies then. The very first comment asking if the new dashboard can be turned off got this response from NinjaJesus: "You can. You don't have to use the new dash."

I may have gone overboard a little by directing it here, but you would not believe the amount of people (in forums and comments) that keep telling other people that the new dash is optional. Nobody listens to actual fact, they just take part of a quote and run with it. And then they wonder why they got lied to by 'M$'

MrsXBob

I don't need teaser spam and website coverage. Just give me a release date. Microsoft just doesn't get it.

Gabryael

@moutski:

Well you have a point. The xbox fanbase (some of them) is being a bit vain in thinking this new update is actually shoddy and uncomplimentary.

I wonder how they would feel then if they were forced to use the Wii's lackluster GUI or PSN's boring sidescroller.

People need to be appreciative when they're being treated this nicely. In other words, 360 users should be greatful they have things THIS GOOD.

Logic1

@Gabryael: What is it they don't get? What, in all honesty, would knowing the exact date of release do? Would it make it better? Would it help you in any real way? Would it solve world hunger? What?

What they get is that teasers and slow reveals works. People seem to enjoy that. Movies do it, games do it, it's a huge part of many advertising campaigns.

So what is it they don't get? They don't get that you have some strange obsession with knowing release dates? Here you go. November 15th. There's a release date.

What's different?

MrBionic

@Logic1:
Totally agree with you!

henri1kk

I'm really looking forward to this!

henri1kk

@mnsxx:

Not to be derisive, but please try to control your language a bit.

Microsofts avatars are light years BETTER than anything Nintendo has done with the Mii's in the last 2 decades or what they are currently doing now (which is nothing at all btw!). There is NO COMPARISON whatsoever, not in the purpose they serve, not in the features that each is capable off, nor in the integration that each will play with their respective online/GUI services. If you own both a Wii and 360 as you claim, then I question your credibility as a gamer to stand by and support the lacklustre avatar system Nintendo has been benchmarking for more than 2 years now over what Microsoft has just recently done which is already poised to overthrow Nintendo's joke of a profile GUI.

Nintendo HAS a lot to learn from Microsoft (ALOT!!), and they really need to really watch MS closely in the next year and a half to see where they going with this new avatar system, and how they might quite possible reinvent the feature to even better heights and more novel experiences.

The word "ripoff" is completelybaseless at this point because to "ripoff" means to emulate something, not SURPASS it. Please stop thinking like a simple minded "Kotakuan" for once in your life and start thinking like a true gamer who wants the best for this industry regardless of where your loyalties lie. This is the only way we can move forward as gamers and restore things to the way they once where or perhaps even make them better than they were before

Logic1

@okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under): Mine's running great in F3 as well. (And my computer never runs fine with anything)

MikeKelley

Do you guys really think this "New xbox experience" or "playstation home" is that big of a deal. I mean how many of you guy actually just stay on the dashboard or the cross media bar, seriously. As for me i just start playing a game or watch a video. These are cool additions to the system but then what, are you just going to look through it or play a game. I mean its like "look i can chat and change the theme, now what?" its great that you can get together with friends then start a game as a group, I don't know about xbox experience, can someone let me know, like in the warhawk war room to plan strategies. As for me im not that exited about the new dashboard and home cause i use my systems to play games not just chat to chat.

Remember this, Its one thing to be told how hot a girl is, its completely different to see for yourself!

johnLD

Well, it looks nice, but if that's how it's organized then I think it could do for some reorganization. Please tell me we can customize what is and isn't in each section.
Still, though, it does seem like a nice upgrade.

Blah8

A new dashboard with still no content behind it does not make me all warm inside.

Me in Europe, me want Netflix!

Unclean1

@MysteriousStranger: Sharing files with your party = major win!

robinandtami

@Gigaheart: That's up to the developers.

robinandtami

All I got was an email saying my Xbox Live Gold expired... :(

Prime-Omega

@eyeshield: How do you know it's shoddy? Were you in on the beta or something? I've heard many reports that it is faster than the old dash. IMO, that alone makes it a nice update; even if you aren't crazy about the appearances of it.

Some people get so freaked out about change.

robinandtami

@sakipooh: I'm assuming you're using FF as your browser (or possibly Opera) considering I had the same problem in FF. Not quite sure how I fixed it. It was either reinstall FF or Flash itself.

Try the second first, and if that fails, backup your bookmarks and such and do the first if you'd like.

Anyway, I think the NXE looks good, except the horrid avatars. I'm sorry, but I don't want Miis invading my game time of Halo 3 or Duke Nukem 3D.

SuperTongue

I've never been all that fussed about the new look (I have no problems with the current one and since I use my 360 as a games console it already does everything I need it to), but what I am interested in the parties system.

That said, I am worried that it could create opportunities to exploit strategy in some games. But time will tell.

Dajmin

@Wizxon: At least you get the option, unlike PS3 games. But oh, you didn't mention that. Fanboy.

Synthesthesia

This is the way the world ends

ReconToaster

1. put's disk he wants to play in machine before turning on TV
2. bypasses this ugliness
3. ?????
4. No loss in gaming experience

full.tang.halo

Still waiting for my RROD recovery box in the mail.

I'm on #4 now. I'm sure the fall update will be out before I get it back. Be sure and let me know how much fun all of you are having with it.

Zombie_Crunch

the nextflix is gonna be tight!

OliverCincinnatus

Did you watch any of the videos in the "Welcome" section of the flash demo? There's a cool one of the Avatars.

RutherfordOgygus

The new dashboard will do to interfaces what Windows did to computers so stfu...

procrasturbate

I think this is a good move for a few reasons. But one reason no one can say is bad, is that the current Dash doesn't look to hot on HD sometimes, themes get pixelated, text gets blurred and just doesn't look all that "up with the times"

Im looking forward to the whole netflix thing the most. cause a Mac user, I do not get to watch netflix on my laptop (they currently don't have a contract or some crap)

I just hope that if it is Streaming on the xbox, that it will be fast! especilaly the high quality stuff on my HDTV (assuming they have high quality options..lol)

ShogunAssassinX

Don't forget that the whole NXE will be DYNAMIC. The Avatars will move, the background will animate, the transitions between sections will be snazzy. This Flash preview really doesn't do it justice at all.

PaineFuge