Calm down sheep the dualshock 3 is the best controller ever. Especially the silver Japanese one.

The bigger the lie, the more they believe!

I think both controllers are fine to me. But this seems like a weak reasoning not to work on a console. He should've just came out and pull a 'Gabe' and tell us what really feels. Well...maybe not.

Jun581 won't give you tree fiddy!!

i concur, preferring 360's..but it's just a matter of preference. here are my 2 cents:

the ps3 d-pad is superior to 360's..which i don't mind since the games i play on 360 arent d-pad heavy.

i like ps3's face buttons..i think 360's bulge out a little too much

the grooves and dips in 360 analog sticks feel like they grip your finger better. for intense warhawk games..it seems like my left thumb is always slipping off the ps3 analog stick. i also prefer it's location to be switched with the d-pads..it always feels awkward for my left thumb to control player movement.

ps3's triggers feel less like triggers than big squishy buttons. xbox 'n dreamcast got the triggers right.

like someone said before..the ps3 controller is still great for other non-shooter games...but this is just another reason for fanboys to argue.

snowbeach024

The 360 controller looks like arolled up dirty diaper. I prefer the PS2 controller. The PS3 controller is ok but the L2 and R2 buttons feel like your finger is going to slip off if you apply too much pressure.

chip5541

@kadaj24: it's not that it feels cheap, i just prefer something with a bit more sustance and wieght...personal preference i guess. Dual Shock may add that.

Karluk

Yeah, my biggest gripe with the DualShock is the thumbstick feel and placement. I don't like how those sticks aim, mostly for FPS, but in some other genres also. The 360 (and original Xbox also) on the other hand feels perfect to me. And yes, usually lightweight things feel cheap to me... I think that is just ingrained.

hammerhand

@FuuKuy: Not every game is a RTS or FPS

NoBullet

@Garo:
Cliff Bleszinski

I Have No Name

@Sniper_Zegai:

Have to agree, that's why i bought mine....and it's become a dust magnet (tho' that'll prob'ly change when Killzone 2 finally arrives). And yes, the contoller is horrible and hollow feeling (but, again my opinion might change if i wasn't too cheap/played it enough to justify getting DS3's)

And for xiked: I don't know about Sniper_Zegai, but I'm too much of an achievement whore to buy non exclusives on the PS3 over the 360...

Karluk

@riffleraffle: Well the PS2 controller also hurt my hands.

Cavefish

@2SBs: Sounds more like your TV has some video delay to me.

And the Dude Huge thing is a reference to a post a few weeks/months back where the word "hug" had a typo. I'd post a link but I think they fixed the typo.

IronsUK

Who is Dude Huge?

Garo

If I had to pick it'd be the 360 pad for me, but the Dpad bugs me, enough that I don't like fighters on 360. Then recently I played the Motorstorm: PR demo only to be reminded I HATE the triggers on that pad, my finger gets tired trying to hold in the button. Oh well could be worse, I could be cursing at the screen because my wii mote ripoff didn't recognise the downward chainsaw motion I was making in gears of war: kid friendly edition (it's got sparks!?)

Verge

@xiked: I've never understood the whole 'sixaxis feels cheap' thing. Just because it's light doesn't mean it feels cheap. I always thought that was a BS statement.

kadaj24

Well, after hours and hours of playing my 360, my hands have mow welded into the shape of the 360 controller. When i play on my PS3 now the controller just doesn't feel right.

nottsville

@freakout: That "massive indents" problem is the only thing stopping me from beating Zico's time in WipEout HD right now. I need to warm up first, but when I finally warm up my fingers are trashed.

Nkosi868

1 thing I noticed about the Sixaxis is the delay between you moving the stick and your character moving on the screen. It really bugs me plus the R2 and L2 buttons are shit.

When did Cliffy B become Dude Huge?

2SBs

@icegoat:

He surely likes taking a dump then... as he verbally does it quite often.
Since when Kotaku became an "inofficial 360 Blog" ?

Tired of all those "Stories" about people bashing the PS3...

Anyway, he can stuck his 360 pad where the sun never shines, Game On!

The Dude

Both controls have their pros and cons. I lean toward DS3 because it goes back to PS2 style control. For shooters I love the 360 control. For everything else lay outwise I am not a fan.

TheNexusRebound

@DespisedMC: Ummm....how does the addition of SIXAXIS make the DualShock3 worst than the DualShock2?

In my humble opinion, the L2 and R2 buttons are much better on the DS3. I had many stuck R2 buttons during my PS2's lifespan.

Nkosi868

@Talleh: I have never liked the PS controlers either. The DC one was ok but I allways felt like I was trying to rip it apart when I would have it in my hands. 360 Snes Saturn and GC are the good ones that I can think of. N64 wasnt that bad either ;)

Gunloc

@DespisedMC: You're probably in the minority fanboy. The DS3/Sixaxis is much more refined in every way over the DS2. I nearly cringe when I go back to playing with my DS2.

kadaj24

I'm with Dude Huge on this. I was *this* close to buying a PS3 on eBay two days ago (I really want to play LBP & MGS4) but, after giving thought to the control pad, I realised that I couldn't go back to it after using the 360 pad.

duckmouth

What a surprise. Like everyone else in the known universe, he likes what he uses most/used first.

icegoat

Sorry, but DS3 > 360 controller. Any day.

Perhaps it's because I have small Asian hands, or I've become accustomed to it over the past 10 years...

y2kenjination

xbox and xbox 360 controller I had to get this out of my chest. Next time I meet Cliffy "Beeswax" I will say: your game sucks. Now that will make him stubborn. I'm pretty sure he took ideas from Metal Gear and Heavenly Sword. PS1 and 2 has been bought by millions of people compared to microsoft xbox, so pretty sure people love ps controller. XD

zkotaku

Dude Huges give's his Xbox controller a big huge.

IronsUK

The 360 pad would indeed be perfect if it had the DS3 DPad.

alecpyron

@Sniper_Zegai:

well you can play other games that is NOT exclusive too...seems like you just making up shit.

And there is tons of good EXCLUSIVE games on PSN to.

xiked

If they took the DPad from the Sixaxis and used it on the 360 pad, it would be the greatest pad ever.

The sixaxis is good for selecting things.
The 360 pad is good for playing games.

Soy Bob

I personally like both controllers, but I do play favorites when it comes to certain game genres. On another note completly, I love that his new name is Dude Huge. If I could read a single article containing "Dude Huge" per day, I think I would never experience sadness again.

Crookie

@riffleraffle:

Hell no the ps2 way better..without the stupid 6 axis and the stupid r2 and l2 buttons which are now wanna be triggers...I'm sorry but I rather have the ps2 controller than the ps3...so i agree...360 ftw

DespisedMC

I stopped reading at Dude Huge.

[Redeeming Lionheart]

didn't we just had a discussion in another Cliffy B topoic a few hours ago? wtf, ANOTHER story of him so soon? seriously Kotaku.......

Alex_Mexico

I'm with Dude Huge. I've hated the Playstation controller ever since it first came out and wore massive indents into my thumbs when playing Wipeout.

Then Dualshock made things even worse, with it's stupid stick placement that just feels unnatural.

Then Sixaxis/DS3 came out with their shitty triggers that feel like big plastic bricks...

360 controller FTW, IMO. Fits into my hands even better than my junk!

freakout

I gotta say, my 360 controller is the most comfortable I've ever felt. That's compared to the dreamcast, ps1/2, genesis, snes, nes, Wii and gamecube. Sure I haven't felt all the controllers in the world, but this one manages to get the feel, the feedback and enough heft, without being heavy. I've played about 1/2 of Resistance on a buddies PS3, and it was...well miserable. I hated using the controller for FPS controls. My PS2, I've never beaten a single FPS for it, but many, MANY RPGs, third person action games, and any other number.

I tried to play Killzone 1, but it felt so wrong and twisted. I thought Killzone had a really cool premise, and felt like the story had alot of room to grow, but I just couldn't drag myself through the entire game. MGS3 was pretty enjoyable, EXCEPT when I had to fire from first person, or aim anything with any precision at all. Maybe it's just me, but Mr. B seems to agree.

Talleh

I recently bought a PS3 thinking a world of exclusives would open up to me but I'm already stuck with 5 games in total, MGS4, Heavenly Sword, Resistance, Uncharted and . . . ahem . . . Lair. I also don't have the vibration controller so the six axis feels like a hollow piece of cheap plastic in my hand. LittleBigPlanet is looking good though.

Sniper_Zegai

I think that the X360 is more comfortable (not for gameplay, for merely comfort on the hands), but the PS3 controller works better for Adventure games such as Gears. I'm pretty much sure, he has to say he hates the PS3 controller, or summat, as it is under his contract with Microsoft (not sure that he has one enrolled, but I'm pretty sure he does).

ElvinaKapla

I too like the PS3 controller, and so does my imaginary girlfriend. I liked the 360's controller before I bought a PS3, and thought that the PS's controller was a POS uncomfortable thing. Now its the other way around.

drunkentyger

I prefer keyboard and mouse than ANY controller....

FuuKuy

I love the PS3 controller and so do my girlfriend. I don't know why this is such a big discussion. If you don't like an controller, buy an other brand:s controller instead?

xiked

I like Dude Huge. He looks like someone I might hang out with, except that he seems to be better shaven than most of my friends.

Scallan

But..it's pretty much the same controller as the PS2s

*explodes*

riffleraffle

Alright, I got it. People who appear to be total douches usually are. Keep your ethnic-stereotype-driven war games on the 360. Noone will miss them anywhere else.

I learned my lesson and will move on.

lumpi

@StormdragonBlue:

With a tiny shirt.

Kukuk

Cliff is a huge man with huge ideas and a huge big mouth to say huge things that cause huge controversy on the internets!

It's why his guns are XBOX HUGE.

StormdragonBlue

@Garo: he doesn't want to be called that anymore, so kotaku gave him a new nickname.

[kotaku.com]

devil_may_lol

@Garo: Cliff has quite the big mouth. That's maybe why. Tho I'm not sure myself.

His nick was Cliffy B till a while ago he announced he doesn't want to be called that any. He rather just be referred to by his full name or something.

StormdragonBlue

My PS3 controller recently fell a foot, just a foot, and now every time I have the analog stick pulled down, it makes a little click sound as it moves back to the center position.

/sigh

Mobus

Cliffy B is a cock gobbler.

Kukuk

@IronsUK: Both my 360 and PS3 are connected to the same TV. 360 controller is fine so it can't be the TV. LOL @ 'hug' typo.

2SBs

I admit that the 360 controller feels natural when you grip it, but I'm so used to the analogue positions of the DS3, that every time I push the left analgue stick on the 360 controller I tend to strafe to the right.

Shader

@The bigger the lie, the more they believe!: Calm down person who can't accept other people's opinions.

Soy Bob

@snowbeach024: It really is preference, becasue when using the 360 pad for long periods of time my pointer finger joints start to hurt so bad.

It depends on how you're used to holding the controllers. Some people like to grip it hard (360 pad is better) while others like the pad to just rest in their hand (ps2/ps3 pad is better).

jair

The 360 controller feels even better when it has a nice used patina on it. Its like an comfortable old pair of sneakers or your favorite beer mug. It just feels right.

Nexus6

I still can't get over the fact that he wants to be called Dude Huge. The only thing that the DS3 does wrong are the R2 and L2 triggers. But I guess they're like that so they won't break as easy as DS2.

It just feels so weird trying to play MvC2 with the DS3. Anyway, I'm sure if you play with it a while and stop bitching and whining you'll get use to it.

HoxtonHero

@I Have No Name:
I don't understand the reference... I thought his nick was Cliffy B?

Garo

@Nkosi868: Yeah - while the PSX/2/3 d-pad is worlds better than the 360 one, it still gets very, very painful after you've airbraked your way around a few corners...

freakout

Dude Huge should be disemvoweled!

GOD

@riffleraffle: I prefer the PS2 controller, I hate the L2 and R2 buttons on the PS3

Pepek

@kadaj24: Honestly I can't even tell the difference. Personally, the D-Pad on the X-Box kills me.

EvilMetsFan

Hate the spongy triggers on the PS3 controller, in fact speaking of which... My R2 broke after my controller fell two and half feet from my bedside table onto carpet...

Have ordered another DS3 and also a set of fugly clip-on Giotech "real triggers" keep hearing they are vast improvment. Make the triggers more convex, just wish the springs offered slightly more resistance...

Also the sticks have slightly less resistance compared to the DS2, which adds to the "cheap" feel, particularly with the SixAxis since its so light...

Also the USB charging is a pain, I hot-swap on my 360 & Wii. On the PS3 I have to dig out the cable and a USB extention cable so I can keep playing. Also worried about the long term if the internal battery packs-up - thats a dead controller...

On the plus side the Sony D-pad is still spot on, and the DS3s added weight (and rumble!) is a improvement over the SixAxis...

Mostly happy with the 360 controller, just wish the d-pad was better on it, and the wii controller with a fitted (3rd party) silicone case on the remote and nunchuck is very confortable and prevents sweaty hands...

Mr.Monkey

"I hate the fucking controller. I'm sorry, I can't stand the PS3 controller"
+1

BrayanA

@kadaj24: I've had a 360 controller for a while now and I'm very used to vibration functions, not only that but I do use my PS2 with rumble and the weight difference is very noticeable.

When the 360 controller's battery runs low, it turns vibration off the save power, I notice immediately when this happens. If you have been using nothing but the Six Axis for a while then you may not miss vibration.

Sniper_Zegai

I never really did like the Playstation controller.

However, when I was younger with my PS1 and N64, I liked it a lot more than the "do I hold the middle or the left one?" n64 controller.

Ryumeka

@xiked: Well now that I have the far superior PS3 I guess I should just throw my 360 out of the window, amirite. . .

No, if a game I want is available for both platforms I buy it for the 360 because all of my friends are on XBL, not to mention games that come out for both platforms usually hit the 360 first and are generally cheaper on that platform, I even got to play those two new PS3 titles before they were even released, y'know those brand new games Eternal Sonata and BioShock. And most of the games that are on PSN, I have already purchased in real life anyway, FF, MGS and Abe's Odyssey are fun and all but relying on the titles that made the PS1 and PS2 are success hardly makes an argument for the superiority of the PS3 does it, if anything it reminds me how badly Sony have screwed the pooch when they have done so well in the past.

But hey, that's just the opinion of this lowly, shit stirring, 360 fanboy.

Sniper_Zegai

Shiiit, I didn't like the Playstation controller from day one when the PS1 launched. Which is why I only stuck with the N64. I finally gave it a go with the PS2 and it was alright but I preferred the Dreamcast Controller. Then the Xbox came out and I preferred the Duke controller, which I still like over the S controller. But the 360 controller is the only controller that I can live with for the rest of my gaming. Maybe he D-pad needs to be more like a Nintendo D-pad tho.

The Chicken Kicker

It's what you're used to. Me, I love the PS3 controller, and hate the 360 controller. I love the symmetry and feel of DS3, and hate... well just about everything about 360's. Crappy d-pad, stupid button shape, unsymmetrical design, the unwieldy shape... but if I were to play on one for great lengths of time, I'd get used to it.

This is a pointless debate from a pointless dude.

Ungruntled

I'll agree that the 360 controller is better for shooters,so it makes sense he'd prefer it more. The sticks and triggers on the PS3 controller take a lot more of a fine touch to get it to do what you want, and I know people that just can't stand the squishy triggers.For other things though, I generally prefer the PS3 controller.

drifter13

Good for Dude Huge, I completely agree with him. Back in the PS1 days the Dual Shock was excellent, especially the original grey coloured ones which had much smoother movement of the analogue sticks. From the PSOne onwards Sony made the sticks much stiffer to move which is one of the reasons I hate using them so much now.

The other problem is the huuuuuge dead zone on the sticks. In lots of games they don't seem to respond until you've moved the stick about 40-50% in the direction you want. They just completely ignore small movements near the centre, which is very annoying when you're trying to line up a delicate snipe. I don't know if it's all the developers putting in such huge dead zones or if it's a Sony mandate or if the sticks are just badly designed. All I know is none of the competition's pads have the problem.

The analogue triggers on the SIXAXIS/DS3 are horrid too, they're curved in the wrong direction so your fingers don't stay on them very well and they have very little play.

I'll definitely give Sony credit where it's due though. I think the addition of "handles" on the original PS1 joypad was a very under-appreciated innovation as it made the controllers much easier to hold. And I think the use of symbols on the face buttons was a very clever move. Whenever I play a game with QTEs, if it's a Playstation game I can recognise which symbol corresponds to a button instantly. When it's ABXY I can never remember which button is which, especially since Nintendo and Microsoft/Sega have them different ways around confusing things even more!

Sony really need to start innovating with their next controller rather than just stealing ideas from the competition. If you look at all the Sony joypads they've all pretty much been reactions to the competition:

Original PS1 pad- copied the SNES pad but added two extra shoulder buttons to go one better.

Dual Analogue pad (pre-rumble version)- Quick, Nintendo have shown analogue control is the future. Let's add another analogue stick to go one better than them!

Dual Shock- Oh shit, now Nintendo are doing rumble. Quick, add a second rumble motor to outdo them!

Analogue Triggers- whoops we missed the boat on this one. Quickly add some triggers as everything from the Dreamcast has had these (to be fair Namco did analogue L + R buttons first with the NeGcon, although they were more like the horrid buttons on the GC pad).

SIXAXIS- Rumble is so last gen. We don't need that. Oh fuck, Nintendo is doing motion control! Quickly, someone stuff an accelerometer into the pad! What? No we don't have time to do a usability study just stick it in there! Oh, and someone add a Guide button like on the 360 pads.

photoboy

@Nightshift Nurse: Mile High Colonic: yes, there is certainly a lot of that. I feel people who were hating on n64 and the game cube in favor of PS now hate on ps3. which all three are great systems.
but, I think there is a valid point to not liking the ps3 controller for a game like GearsOW because the left analog is not as tight for aiming. For a game like GodOW or a 2-d game, ps controller is best(for me)

TT

Hate to say it, but I'm with Dude Huge. I used to love the PS controllers, thought they couldn't be made better, until I held the XBox 360 one in my hands. I loved MGS4 and Heavenly Sword... dude, am I turning into a Dude... Huge?... wait! I don't like no plastic guns... phew! :D

RammyX

I just don't get why people can like the PS3 controller. It's a design that has been around for over 10 years! When I saw that Sony had decided to go with an identical controller to the PS2 AND PS1 I knew that Sony really had gone past the point of no return as far as innovation is concerned. Especially with the half baked 'triggers' which actually make your fingers slip off when pressed.

This then brings me to the analogue sticks, because they were already an after thought for a controller that was never designed to accomodate thumb sticks, they get in the way all the time. I find that the housing for the sticks doesn't allow my fingers to sit comfortably under the controller and I also hate the way that if I point both thumbs inwards on the sticks my thumbs hit each other.

I then thought that maybe they would have at least fixed the responsiveness of the sticks. NO! They are still as unresponsive as they were 10 years ago, which by todays standards is an absolute disgrace and it also has the biggest dead zone of any stick. It's quite simply terribe and unusable.

The analogue sticks are so bad that I really believe that they are no better than the D-Pad. This is fine for games that only require you to turn left or right, you can do the same with a digital pad but as soonas I need to do a head shot I feel like putting the controller through the nearest window.

I hate it! Why don't people acknowledge things when they're staring them in the face? Just because you are used to something doesn't make it better than anything else, it just means that you like familiarity.

Alsybub

BIG DEAL Kotaku. THIS ISN'T NEWS!

A guy on the Microsoft payroll says he prefers a Microsoft product to a Sony Product. How shocking! What next? Sony employee prefers the Dualshock 3?

Andronix

Frankly all the hate for the PS3 controllers seems a bit manufactured to me. It's the same basic Dual Shock design we've seen for over a decade...a decade where many (if not most) gamers liked the controller(s).

I understand a distaste for the L2 and R2 triggers on the Six-Axis, but beyond that it seems like a lot of "Hey, let's find one more thing not to like about PlayStation since they've been ousted from the #1 spot."

Nightshift Nurse: Mile High Colonic

@Mr.Monkey: *comfortable*

Mr.Monkey

@Andronix:

RITALIN.

also, i see your head and a hammer of ban in the future.

tehbighead

I don't think I've seen the guy called dude huge, but for some reason I find it fucking hilarious.

thaswizz

@dowingba: It's one thing to go for games that give you a little incentive to play them, which is nothing wrong with going for achievements for games you enjoy.

But it is something totally different to AVOID games just because it has a little extra given to you for playing it.

I mean, there is nothing wrong with your choice, but purposely avoiding achievement/trophies sounds like something a scorned kid would do.

The Chicken Kicker

Both controllers obviously have their pros and cons. The DS3 is actually alot better than the DS2 was for shooters, for whatever reason (I think the thumbsticks are more sensitive or something). But I still prefer the 360 control for racing games. Well, except I have a force feedback wheel that works on the PS3...

dowingba

@Alsybub: Yeah, it's been around for 10 years and hasn't really changed so I never really liked it at all.

But I don't think anything is wrong with keeping the same design.

I really hope Microsoft sticks with this design for the next 10 years.... maybe just make a more standard d-pad is all.

The Chicken Kicker

@Karluk: I get multiplatform games on the PS3 over the 360 simply to not have achievements. Seriously I'm so sick of achievements. I so far have no PS3 games that support trophies and I kinda hope it stays that way for a while.

dowingba

@TT: Believe me, I'm not suggesting the SixAxis is/was without fault, or that the basic DualShock design is the be-all-end-all of inputs...just that (as you said) there's a certain degree of bloodlust when a titan like Nintendo or Sony gets knocked down a peg or three.

And having used the SixAxis for a year and a half and earlier iterations of the DualShock for over ten I just can't see where all the vitriolic statements are coming from. It's just not as bad as people say, hell it's not bad at all. But like all things it's not above criticism either. If any controller design to date was that phenomenally good for everything then we wouldn't also have joysticks, floor mats, light guns, spinners, robots, motion sensors, touch screens, and little plastic guitars.

Nightshift Nurse: Mile High Colonic

hehe this dude is crazy... developers get rockstar status inowadays :D

I actually like both 360 and PS3 controllers, both are comfortable... both can be very good adjusted to a game, if the developers are skilled ;)
I like the chatpad for the 360, and i'm happy that sony also comes up with a bluetooth one.

Actually i like the 360 and the PS3, and I think the console wars are good for competition... makes em deliver a lot more to the consumers. ;)

McLogo

@freakout:

lol, I agree :) I love the 360 controller, through all the generations since Atari/NES/etc. I havent had such a comfortable controller as the 360 controller, not to mention a pretty good wireless (range, reliability, response), nice rumble feel, buttons, etc.

OrionnoirO

@duckmouth:

You'd be surprised. I picked a PS3 off of eBay with my previous consoles being only the N64, Xbox, and Xbox 360. In my opinion the DualShock 3 is worlds better than the 360's controller. Maybe it's because I play more games on the PS3 but, excluding a mouse and keyboard, I'll choose the DS3 any day.

Cake_Eater

@Nightshift Nurse: Mile High Colonic: I wholeheartedly agree...wait, did I spell "wholeheartedly" correctly?
Anyway, like I said earlier, I think this is weak reasoning why he won't work for the PS3. I mean, he's a gamer (yea a big mouth but a gamer nonetheless) and I'm sure he played tons of PS2 games, so this comment relating the development of a console to the use of the console's controller seems...meh.

Jun581 won't give you tree fiddy!!

If MS gave me the money they give to Dude Huge i would love everyone.
Including a controler.

badmoogle

I'm sure someone said it before me, but why doesn't "Dude Huge" just STFU go back to making games on PC. Ohh and put Mouse & Keyboard into the console versions as done for UT on PS3. Seriously, if your only gripe about a system is the controller and you are in…err…control of it, well then you are the problem.

-EDGE-

@thaswizz: It's a Kotaku thing. Dude Huge requested to be called Dude Huge after Crecente (I think it was him) misspelled the phrase "Dude Hugs" as "Dude Huge". It made Quote of the Week or something. If I wasn't so lazy, I'd go dig up that QotW page.

Salen

@zkotaku: im a rabid ps3 whore but you sir sound like youre trolling but ultimatly I love the ps1,2,3 controller played an xbox controler and it felt weird but thats because of ten years of ps use i guess familarity breeds content

misterx231

@Razgriz1:

Ive got a UK launch console and the pad sucks serious ass

Raikkenon

im glad someone else said it! its the reason my ps3 has 1" of dust covering it! i hate the control pad! i fucking hate it!

Raikkenon

@freakout: What, do you have fairy hands? I've never noticed any pain playing Wipeout HD for hours on end, and it's not like I have rough calloused hands or anything.

At any rate, you get used to the controller you are using, and soon it becomes awkward to use anything else. I was like that switching from 360 shooters to PS3 shooters, it felt very awkward. But now it feels very comfortable and normal.

supo

@Llost: better than PS2 not better than 360 pad I meant. 360 is better in almost every way apart from the D-pad but I'm used to that.

Llost

360 controller is like the dreamcasts
PS3's is like PS2
Wii is like a DVD remote
Hopefully none of these are that bad.

I've played PS3 games quite a bit and don't mind it at all. It's improved in most respects but I don't like how light it is. Other than that though I'd say it's better.

Llost

I'm curious as to which region got this giant batch of shitty PS3 controllers.

Also, fuck you, Cliff B. Your games suck. I would listen to Molyneux talk for weeks before even looking at one more GoW2 press release with his mug stamped all over it.

Razgriz1

@cyruss: Sigh. Compare the original Xbox controller to the 360 controller. Yeah, a whole lot of work went into that "redesign" eh?

dowingba

@Sniper_Zegai: And what exclusives does the 360 have that make it so much better? And im talking about games that aren't on PC already. I can think of 3 games I would get for the 360 if I were to buy one: Gears 2, NG2 and.. well I was going to say Halo 3, but thinking about it.. I wouldn't play much MP, and the campaign was kind of crappy.. so there are actually 2 I would buy..

supo

The Xbox pad feels more comfortable if you ask me it also has a bit of weight to it. The PS3 controller is too light and feels like i'm holding a cheap toy controller.

Raptr569

We do NOT love you "dude huge" (What is that compensation for I wonder... )

We the PC gamers you left in the dirt DO NOT LOVE YOU. Go back to making good games.

FadedSpark

I also dislike the layout of the ps3 controller. If the loft stick was above the dpad and the joysticks werent so loose it would be perfect.

orochination

This just in: Insomniac games announces that they hate the 360 controller...also, a Mr. R. McDonald has been quoted as saying that the Whopper is the most ghastly food product ever manufactured.

I was a 360 owner from launch until about eight months ago when I finally got tired of a certain bright red geometric formation, and getting doomed refurbished units from MS as replacements. I'd had enough and jumped.

The PS3 controllers DID suck in my opinion - about the first week or so of use. Now I'm used to them and it's no big deal.

The two are just different - Dude Huge is just acknowledging that he knows where his bread is buttered.

phloog

I'm in 100% agreement about the controller. I hate having the analog sticks in the middle of the controller because up with your thumb isn't up with the stick. The Dual Shock was great back in the PS days, but I think the 360 controller is far superior.

Strangelove

@riffleraffle:

The PS2 controller has never worked for me. The sticks are too low on the controller and the triggers just seem to be in the wrong spot.

Everyone else likes the controller, so I've just accepted that I have mutant hands. Maybe CliffyB needs to come to the same conclusion.

Marlor

@NoBullet:

Of course.

Some are turn-based strategy games and others are CRPGs.

Marlor

@The Chicken Kicker: Oh and there's some other reasons I go for PS3 over 360.

A) I'm on my 3rd 360 and my warranty runs out this winter. Yeah not too keen on investing more into the platform.

B) Stores around here have a greater selection of PS3 games.

C) I kinda prefer the noise level of the PS3. It doesn't wake up my roommate when I play it, at least.

dowingba

@zkotaku:

wow lol..

"xbox and xbox 360 controller I had to get this out of my chest"

Glad you got those out of your chest.. Kinda interested in how they got there.

@misterx231:

At least you are honest :)

OrionnoirO

@The Chicken Kicker: Damn, eh? I really care about your opinion of me? Apparently?

dowingba

i hate the ps3 controller also.. the console is great, but the controller is a nightmare, its so small and crap, the L2 and R2 triggers are rubbish and painful to use for racing games!
the "dome" analogue sticks are aweful, and i much prefer the positioning of the left analogue stick on the 360 controller.

it amazes me how poor the design went into this ps3 controller, its like they got rid of the boomerang and replaced it with a slightly modified ps2 controller without putting any work into it, when Microsoft have come up with something that is so comfortable to use

i much prefer the xbox 360 controller... if anyone can find a good replica that works on the PS3 in game then let me know :)

cyruss

Everytime this guy says something.. I want to punch him..

CockroachMan

How really cares what Dude Huge thinks?

Crippen

@FuuKuy: People who say this generally haven't given a console controller a chance. I user to be hardcore PC and keyboard and mouse and hated playing FPS with a controller. Once I used it exclusively and got used to it, I could never go back.

shufflemoomin

@TheNexusRebound:
I agree. But uh... shooters all deserve mouse & keyboard... of course I'm a PC gamer so I'll be using whatever the hell I want. Haha.

ZaxCG2

@-EDGE-: Does that mean folks who complained about the original HUGE Xbox controller were at fault, and not the fact that the control was indeed huge and uncomfortable?

Salen

Having both the 360 and the ps3, I must admit I slightly prefer the 360 controller. It feels slightly bigger, heavier and more comfortable in my hands. It would win hands down if it weren't for the atrocious d-pad.

The ps3 controller is pretty much flawless though so don't know what the big deal is. I guess a tad bitter about disappointing unreal 3 sales on the ps3... or just simply preference and nothing else, who cares?

JakeDunn

Can't wait for Gears of War 10.

flyingsupernerds

he recently said that the 360 hates the design of the 360 controller, and that it looks like a space ship.... definitely more comfortable though!

Fr0sTy333

Its just what you're used to. Don't try to come in here and tell me theres a design reason the ps3 controller is inadequate. It just sucks to be you guys because you got used to the controller that goes to the system that doesn't have littlebigplanet, and has rediculous failure rates. But hey! its got that awesome controller! Have fun with that.

zoemgs2

There are 2 problems with the Dualshock:

- The placement of the analog sticks are too close together and not in a comfortable spot for your thumbs, especially if you have large hands

- There's not enough deadzone

Both of these issues are much more apparent in shooters. It's decent for most games, but terrible for shooters.

Madeira

I agree with Cliffy B.

I own both consoles and prefer the x360 controller

LosDaddie

@kadaj24: I second that. The L2 and R2 are really great for racing games; easier to push than on DS2 for whatever game.
Tip for the L2/R2 haters: you don't have to push the buttons all the way all the time....

CliffyB has mutant hands, that's it. Or they've been deformed by the xbox controller.

somarix

wait...let me get this straight...for over ten fucking years the industry went on and on about how the PS/PS2 controller was the next best thing to sliced bread and now all of a sudden it's total crap? that's hilarious. the PS3 controller isn't new, why are people acting like they never used it before, oh wait...that's right...you were all in the closet...waiting for someone else to come out and say they didn't like it because you didn't want to go against the masses.

PS3 controller = best all around controller on the market

360 controller = 2nd best because it has one of the worst D-pads in console history.

Both controllers equally suck for any shooter because of dual analog.

Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.

@riffleraffle: The PS2 controller also sucks. People just didn't know it until the 360 controller came along.

Rectangle

@Raikkenon: Buy a dual shock. Seriously. The quality over the launch controllers is ridiculous.

Razgriz1

@macr0planet: Oh also. The joysticks on the PS3 are just obnoxious. They really have no force on your thumbs, thus making it hard to aim accurately, fast. They should have more resistance.

macr0planet

To start, the PS3 controller needs stiffer analog sticks for more precise R-analog control. The R2 and L2 buttons ain't so hot either.

Personally, I'd like to see the controller fit 6 face buttons on top for fighting games and maybe be expanded a little wider.

360's pad ain't perfect either, but the analog sticks are about as good as they're gonna get. Triggers feel more natural for for racing and shooting games also. If the controller felt a little more 'softer' and bulkier like the Xbox(1)'s S-controller, it might be close to perfect.

VicViper

I will admit that the controller does not feel like it fits your hands. After playing the 360 for awhile, I feel like I should have a controller that fits my hands and feels natural.

Microsoft did spend a lot of $$ on designing a new controller though. It really shows.

macr0planet

Having owned nearly every home console (and countless pc's) I will agree with him on this one.

The 360 has the most comfortable 1st party controller I've ever used. Forget the Sony controller, jumping back and forth from my NES controller, or even one of the numerous Atari ones, back to my 360 controller is where the real fun is.

Despite many, many years of Playstation gaming the controller's stick layout is just annoying. I guess if it's all you've really known then you like it.

Shandy706

So you are telling me that a developer that has a major Xbox and Windows IP prefers the controller that these platforms use?

I use all three, the one I like the least is the Wiimote.The buttons are too small, and I forget where they are. The Dpad on Wii is also sharp and digs into he skin.

jackal888

I think the DS3 controller is the best controller ev0r.

fquick

@gordiehowe5: I wonder too. Does Mr. Bleszinski use the word 'huge' a lot? Has he ever referred to himself as huge? Perhaps Hackcraft can tell us? (See what I did there? I came up with a snarky nickname too!)

Lemon Goo

What a completely pointless comment. This from a guy who happily announces his game will be exclusive to a console that is plagued with technical issues for so many people. If 'hating' the PS3 controller is the worst criticism he can make about the PS3 I'd suggest he and his ilk think long and hard about 360 exclusivity for their next release.

Know what I f'n hate about the 360? That it's an unstable piece of crap---but hey, the controller's not bad ...

Immutablyme

@Viet0ne: Actually the dual shock ins't the best for all genre as you admitted the 360 was better for shooters. I'd say the 360's is better for racing games and action games too but fighting games the PS3 wins.

The buttons depress too much? Never heard that before. The D-pad does suck so why not use the analogue? There are some really stubborn gamers nowadays.

They're both easy to access it just depends on which your most comfortable with mostly. And if you really hate the D-pad then PS3 probably wins if your glued to the D-pad anyway.

Llost

People complaining about how light the PS3 controller is, are definitely not talking about the DS3...

SirM

The Dualshock design is still by far the best controller for all genre of games.

The XBox360 controller is still only best for shooters. It sucks with pretty much everything else because the buttons depress too much, the D-pad sucks, the triggers while fine make the shoulder buttons in the worse place possible.

Gamesl ike Force Unleashed are much eaiser to play on the DS3 than the 360 controller for me and almost everyone I played with because the buttons are just easier to access on the DS3.

Viet0ne

Where did this Dude Huge nickname come from?

gordiehowe5

@zoemgs2: There's no design reason why the PS3 controller or 360 controller or Wii controller is inadequate but there is reasons why one is better than the other. I've got used to them all, I've played dreamcast, PS1, PS2, PS3, Xbox, Xbox 360, gamecube and Wii (to the extent where I got used to the pad) and I just happen to think the 360's is better. Failure rate dropping (not to mention mine isn't failing) and I think LBP is a big pile of crap so I'm not caring about your fanboy comments. You could atleast try and impress me with a good game like Heavy rain, MGS4 or team ico's next project!

Llost

I have to agree with him on the controller, I have hated the PS controllers since they first appeared. Thier too small, the analogs useless for primary use(ie. fps, 3D fighters, and basically anything 3D that relies on analog as the 1st source of control), and the dpad has always been crap, albiet not as much crap as the xbox and 360 dpads which are complete crap.

I have to disagree with him on bluray though, but I think thats more to region than anything. See, here in japan blurays MSRP for around $50 a disk and rental stores are still pretty slow at adoption rates. Meaning usually id have to pay $50 to watch a movie that is barely better than an upscaled DVD. As a game medium its too slow as of now(although ill love it when it gets a bit faster in the units) to be really viable. I hate installs with a passion and my PS3 is filled with nothing but installs.(20GB model) I shouldnt have to upgrade a HDD just to play games, so that aggrivates me. So while the BD-ROM drive will be the successor and will be great, im not fond of it in the PS3.

RuneX21

wahts the difference
four buttons on the left
four in the right
one in the middle
two on the top plus triggers
and two sticks
both have thse

The only difference is motion sensing in which case ps3 is better

mal_tez92

@supo: Why not try some new stuff? Racing titles = Forza and PGR
RPG = Tales of vesperia, Lost odyssey, Blue dragon, Too human, Infinite undiscovery, Star ocean 4 etc.
Platform = Banjo, Kameo, Braid, Castle crashers, conkers, Viva pinata and some others (don't remember them cos I'm not into platform games)
Fighting = DOA 4 (only exclusive fighting game out at the moment that's a full console title). Virtua fighter 5 also has online on the 360 version
Action = NG 2
Others = Ace combat 6, Idolmaster, Naruto, Halo wars.
FPS and shooters = Gears (future ones won't be on PC), Halo etc.

And then ofcourse you can get titles that are not exclusive.

Llost

You know, pretty much any controller becomes second nature when you play with it long enough. Any whining I have about a controller usually lasts for a few hours until I play something that requires me to know where everything is quickly.

mjn328

The guy is crazy. 360's controler isnt horrible, but its severly lacking in places where as the DS3 is the evolution of whats been considered the best controller layout and design going all the way back to the SNES controller.

Its not even a system thing, if the ps3 and 360 controller designs were switched around then i would still say this is the better design.

Murrytmds

PS1 controller - Heralded as pure awesome.
PS2 / Dual Shock 2 controller - Heralded as further pureness of awesomitude.
PS3 / Dual Shock 3 controller - More of the same, albeit wireless - and loathed by all the people still desperate for something to "fucking hate" about the PS3.

Once people finally concede it's a good controller I wonder what the "fucking hate" will migrate towards? "I love the PS3 controller, the Blu-Ray and some of the games. But I cannot stand the power cord. The 360 has a truly better power cord. For real. Once the PS3 has a better power cord then I'll buy one."

endekks

The first Playstation controller is still the best controller ever design-wise. It looked futuristic, yet familiar. I am of the opinion that the Playstation design helped in making it so hip back in the 90's (that, and the first WipeOut)

Mr. Tambourine Man

I have really big hands so the PS3 controler gets really uncomfortable after playing for a shot amount of time.

The original Xbox controler or The Duke is where it's at! That thing fit my hands perfectly.

JustJake

Hey! I actually agree with The Huge on that one!
I wonder if he also liked 'the boomerang'... (I know I did.)

Protector one

Well, in my opinion, the PS3 controller is basically still a SNES controller with analog sticks added on. I mean, I never understood after the ps1 why they didn't put the analog stick where the d-pad is, where it feels most natural. Maybe it had something to do with the fact that ps1 sold so friggin' much, but that would kinda be my point--the popularity of the console was what made the controller design popular, not the other way around.

Brain_Craters

@fadecy: the analogue positions are better on the 360 I'd say but the D-pad is a big point for fighting games. It might just be what your used to though with the analogues.

Llost

I HATE the 360 controller, especially the face buttons. Too...small, and uncomfortable. Felt too plasticky(If that's a word)

Mr. Tambourine Man

@freakout:

If you think the PS controller d-pad is painful, you should try playing Super Street Fighter II Turbo on a Genesis.

BLISTERS

Koztah

Just so you guys know I'm not being biased. I own a Wii and a PS3, no 360.

360 = better shape, better face buttons.
PS3 = Better control stick position and d pad.
Wii = POinter YAY!

fadecy

@VicViper: yeah, tell me about the d-pad on the 360. Thing is annoying. The only gripe I really have with it though.

macr0planet

@Immutablyme: Your a fanboy without even trying to be. He wasn't criticising the PS3, that was bloody evident by the fact that he said he liked blu-ray and the games on it. He just doesn't like one small thing so get over your Sony ball licking fanboyism and join the real world where people do have objective opinions.

The worst thing about the PS3 is the goddamn fanboys, I've never known them to be so bad on any other console.

Llost

I'm so sick of seeing this guy's stupid ass names for himself.

I don't even know his actual full, given name because all I ever see is "Dude Huge" or whatever the hell else he is called.

I'll start caring more about his opinion once he has, you know, an adult name.

mva5580

I've always the PS2 controller was perfectly designed. Perfect grip and button placement for easy accessibility. And since they chose the same design over that stupid boomerang look they were going for, I have no qualms with the PS3 one, except for the trigger-like L2 and R2 buttons.

PlatformJunkie

@Mr. Tambourine Man: it looked like a bananaphone lol.

Llost

See, now I like the ps3 controller better. Don't know why everyone thinks it is so small. Hell, i'm 6 foot and have pretty big hands and it fits perfectly. I read a few people complaining about the d-pad on ps3 controller? I hope that's a joke. Personally, i think the ps3 controller is better suited for action and fighting games, while the 360 controller is better for FPS. Only because of analog stick placement, and it's not much of a difference. However, the 360 d-pad is a joke and i'm not too fond of the jelly-bean buttons.

All in all, neither controller has ever given me a problem in any games.

Mpalm.

It's my personal opinion that the Xbox controller is better for FPS's and driving games, but it's an undeniable FACT that the Ps3 controller is better for fighting games.

On the last gen consoles you could get an adapter to plug a ps2 controller into an xbox and vice verse but now that everything is wireless I don't know how hard it would be for somebody to jerry rig something with the USB ports.

Sam_Lowry

@Alsybub: Last I remember as long as it works was the main point. The 360 controller has only one step above and that's the slanted analouge buttons.

I've yet to find a dead zone with any of the two consoles controllers.

Both controllers are good , people just gotta whine.

휘성

@Scallan: I love his name, bet it's easy to pick up chicks like that.

"Hi, my name's Dude! Dude Huge!" *nudge nudge, wink wink

Klappstuhl

Unreleased BATARANG FTW.

Mr. Tambourine Man

@GOD: Oh I wish.

휘성

@Garo: It's ms lapdog cliffy. His names get more and more inane , as do his pictures.

Honestly he's the type of guy I'd never play games with because he's such a hater.

휘성

@FuuKuy:

I'm not so good with the keyboard/mouse. My friend who plays on the PC says that playing with controllers doesn't take any skill, though.

DolemiteToTheMax

@riffleraffle: I dunno, I like the XBox360, but let's face it, it's only better than the original XBox's because you don't need to be C'Thulhu to use it. It's still a bit unwieldy. I like the PS2/3 much better for controller design.

DracoGemini13

@endekks: Omg , it's so awesome to hate the power cord. "Once the ps3 has NO power cord , I will buy one."

I'm the only one who was amazed at the size of the 360 powecord when I got it. I'm used to those giant heat giving powercords though.

People gotta hate , it's getting so old , don't you think?

휘성

@Alsybub: And just because YOU don't like something, it doesn't mean noone else truly does.

First of all, Sony actually DID try to make a new controller, but Sony-fans screamed out and wanted the old controller back. I was one of them. If it ain't broken...

When you say that your thumbs crash, that's because you're too stubborn to move them. Personally I hate the sticks on 360, because I CAN'T move them. The tips of my thumbs are always "glued" on top of the sticks and I hate that. Same goes for the triggers, although I like the triggers for both the 360 and PS3.

You also mention the dead zone for the analogs. I must agree that the dead zone is too big, but it's nowhere near as bad as you make it out to be. Also, on the PS3-sticks there are more steps between 1 and 0 than there is for the 360-sticks, and that is a good thing.

Oh and I truly prefer the positioning of the sticks better than on the 360.

Gringorilla

This is so true. Sorry Sony, but the PS3/2 controller is just the PS1 controller (optimised to be playable without analogue sticks) with the sticks thrown on. A redesign is completely necassary. Offset analogue sticks for the win.

I wish I could get a modded 360 controller bundled with a PS3 (and LBP+MGS4 for the sake of being awesome) because I would buy it within seconds.

Refused

The xbox controller (original and 360) has what has been keeping me from buying the console. I just couldn't get used to the original gorilla paw controller and I still can't get used to the new 360 controllers. I suck at fighters when I use the xbox controllers is all lol.

p0wd3rd

The only thing I don't like about the PS controller is the placement of the joysticks. It has always felt unnatural to me. I feel that the D-pad is awesome, however.

Suberus

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SolidSnakeSV

@mal_tez92: Also the shape and the size of the controler. Which is my whole beef with the PS controlers.

When will they make another controler for the big handed gentleman?

JustJake

He....wow. How can one man be so darn irritating? It's like saying "I DON'T LIKE THOSE BLUEBERRIES" , "WHY? BECAUSE I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING BETTER TO SAY".

What will he say next? "I DON'T LIKE THE PS3 BECAUSE IT'S SHAPED LIKE A WAFFLE IRON..."

Dreamcast had the best controllers to date. Worst controller award goes to the Sega Genesis core system 2 , where they got bigger somehow and more bulky.

휘성

Having the 360 since launch, I hated the the PS3 controller when I first got my PS3, but after many hours I actually prefer it's smaller size, easier button mashing, and light weight incase I throw it across the room in frustration, less damage to house hold items lol.

Powie

@supo: Why do you automatically exclude games that are on the PC? The majority of gamers don't own anything that can be considered a "gaming PC".

I mean, it's obvious YOU aren't considering a 360, you're just stirring the shit. Your average prospective console owner, on the other hand, would see those titles as being exclusives vs. the PS3.

captaindirtnap

@HalcyonX12: "analog sticks are aligned with each other for smooth movement"

I still don't see how that is anything other than a matter of preference. Face it, each stick does different things, so it might just work if they are arange differently. If fact, if the left stick is going to be jammed forward most of the time, I'd rather if be in a more comfortable position than where it is on the DualShock design.

Sure, inject as much "logic" as you want into it. It's a matter of preference and no one is any more right than the other.

Just so long as the real gamers can agree to hate the Wiimote.

Edge of Blade

i like them both, but you know who i hate...."dude huge" he's another dev that needs to learn to shut the fuck up. He depreciates his own games with that mouthpiece. i think he's expecting money from MS for saying this. I can't see why anyone would be attached to only one systems, get em' all. Fighting over systems is like fighting over tacos and burritos, both are delicious in their on mexican way.

if_deez

Yup, still funny.

othertim

@Scallan: That's why he's the PR guy...

HalcyonX12

"Dude Huge"? Really? Has gaming turned into that much of a circus?

Anyway... The PS3 controller is great, tons of people have loved the Dual Shock ever since it appeared on the PSX. Great d-pad, analog sticks are aligned with each other for smooth movement, good positioning of shoulder buttons...

The XBox controller has gotten more like the PS Dual Shock with each iteration, from Huge > Controller S > 360 pad... Does that mean "Dude Huge" will hate the 720 pad?

HalcyonX12

The dualshock is the perfect controller and has always felt comfortable in my hands. It has stood the test of time which is the ultimate testiment to what a great controller it is. The 360 controller is alright, but you could replace that d pad with a roller ball and have about the same functionality.

dreadnought666

I'm one of the four people who has hands big enough to LOVE the ORIGINAL Xbox controller. The Xbox controller S was terrible, and the current 360 controller is a slave to the Dreamcast.

I never had an issue with a PS controller being uncomfortable, but I absolutely love the SIXAXIS/DS3.

dude huge is going to be the new Peter Molyneux. What a shame.

e-friend

@Mpalm.: Agree 100%.

Đipic

@DolemiteToTheMax:

That's because controllers are inherently inaccurate, so games usually compensate with larger hitboxes or some degree of auto-aiming.

You can see it pretty clearly by playing a Games For Windows FPS title (like BioShock) with the mouse/keyboard, then with a controller. You need to be pixel-perfect with the mouse, but with the controller you can shoot a bit wide of the enemy and still hit them.