xbox 360
Gears Isn't A Game. It's A Platform. OK?
Posted by Luke Plunkett at 3:30 PM on September 30, 2008
Know this, humans, Gears of War 2 won't be a short game. It'll be a long game. One you play for "months, if not years to come". So says Epic's Cliff Bleszinski, at any rate, who also says that because of the amount of time you'll spend with it - thanks to the longer campaign and multitude of multiplayer modes - it's no longer a "game". "It's no longer a game: it's a platform. Each mode is huge", he told VG247. And he should know! Dude Huge knows huge when he sees it.
Bleszinski: Gears of War "is no longer a game: it's a platform" [VG247]

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Archaotic
Posted 4:00 PM 30/9/08
It's almost sad to think that this same man was also responsible to a large degree for the Unreal Tournament series...does he even listen to himself anymore, or has he tuned out his own insanity completely?
Archaotic
Cazamalos
Posted 3:59 PM 30/9/08
@psycoking:
jajaja, so right
Cazamalos
WilburHorse
Posted 3:58 PM 30/9/08
Damn this comment system. this was meant for red peter
WilburHorse
alecpyron
Posted 3:58 PM 30/9/08
I guess calling a game platform is a new form of hype lately.
alecpyron
HELLSRIDER
Posted 3:58 PM 30/9/08
Its on my list of me want and me will get it!
HELLSRIDER
WilburHorse
Posted 3:57 PM 30/9/08
Beating a dead horse
WilburHorse
dunetiger reads kotaku, seems pleased
Posted 3:55 PM 30/9/08
Huh, months of play in this generation? I'd like to see it. But I'm confident that Dude Huges won't be the one who delivers it, especially with yet another shooter.
dunetiger reads kotaku, seems pleased
Red Peter
Posted 3:53 PM 30/9/08
@Alex_Mexico:
How do you "overkill" something? I'm trying to picture that.
Red Peter
AlbenoEpiX
Posted 3:53 PM 30/9/08
A platform you say?!
Gear of Spore?
AlbenoEpiX
lunarcore
Posted 3:51 PM 30/9/08
Picture needs more zoom.
lunarcore
Alex_Mexico
Posted 3:50 PM 30/9/08
and yes, this "this is no game, is a platform" is BS. Stop the crap and stop trying to sell this game as the 2nd coming of Jesus. This game will be awesome as it is, dont overkill it.
Alex_Mexico
Hawko
Posted 3:49 PM 30/9/08
One you pay for "months, if not years to come"
I mean, as if your economy wasn't bad enough already, now Gears of War 2 will be like your second mortgage.
Hawko
Luke Plunkett
Posted 3:49 PM 30/9/08
@SnakesSolids: And doesn't Cliff scrub up well? Much nicer than all those wrinkly old executives.
Luke Plunkett
Red Peter
Posted 3:49 PM 30/9/08
Screw the haters... I'm STILL playing Gears 1 multiplayer, and it's still my favorite online shooter for the 360. Judging from the the amount of people playing at any one time, I'd say I'm not the only one.
Red Peter
Alex_Mexico
Posted 3:48 PM 30/9/08
stop overhyping this game, we don't want this to end up having underwhelmed buyers like Halo 3 due to too much hype.
I dont have a 360 but I'll admit Im salivating to play this game's campaign in co-op with a friend. I never touched multiplayer on GOW1 (and probably wont either GOW2's) but beat the the 1st twice in co-op when I exchanged my PS3+MGS4 with my cousin for his 360+Halo3+GOW1.
Guess I'll need to come up with a new offer. The first exchange was easy since he was dieing to play MGS4... maybe Resistance 2 or LBP+PS3 for his GOW2+360.
Alex_Mexico
-Scrixx-
Posted 3:48 PM 30/9/08
@Viet0ne:
And Spore is a Nation. And Sims is an Empire. And I'm god.
Can we stop playing this little game now.
-Scrixx-
psycoking
Posted 3:48 PM 30/9/08
Hugenese to English Translation: "This game will have multiplayer."
psycoking
Xuchilbara
Posted 3:47 PM 30/9/08
@dowingba: Im not a troll, I just dont know what else to look forward to on my 360... This game is it... I have a lot more to look forward to on my ps3 this year.
Xuchilbara
Crimsondramon
Posted 3:46 PM 30/9/08
I hope he really backs his statement when the game is released. People usually say the game's gonna be big but that doesn't always happen come release >_>
Crimsondramon
zgnoud
Posted 3:44 PM 30/9/08
of course its their new platform... since UT flopped, they counting to milk their latest cashcow while its still.. err... milky?
zgnoud
bighit006
Posted 3:44 PM 30/9/08
No clifford, No.
bighit006
brutechaos
Posted 3:43 PM 30/9/08
he means like a platform they will continually release small maps and game mods and charge you an arm and a leg from xbox live. great..can they just release a complete game these days?
brutechaos
NeVeRMoRe666
Posted 3:42 PM 30/9/08
@Xuchilbara: Don't worry about it, half of what you said doesn't make an ounce of sense anyway...
NeVeRMoRe666
Jtn
Posted 3:42 PM 30/9/08
"It'll be a long game. One you pay for "months, if not years to come".
One you pay for "months, if not years to come".
pay for months"
Sounds about right.
Jtn
LittleBigPlaneteer
Posted 3:40 PM 30/9/08
Hasn't he learned anything from other developers who overhype their games only to under deliver?
LittleBigPlaneteer
dowingba
Posted 3:40 PM 30/9/08
@scumdog: I'm already bored of Gears 2. And it's not even out yet?!
dowingba
Mister_Jack
Posted 3:40 PM 30/9/08
No, it's a game. Most likely it'll be a very good game, but you put it in your 360 disc drive, you play it a while, then you take it out so you can stick in Fable II or Guitar Hero or whatever. It's a game.
Mister_Jack
Marlor
Posted 3:39 PM 30/9/08
In other words, it's got a lot of multiplayer modes. Which is fine if online multiplayer is your thing.
Just hope it doesn't fall into the trap of having a multitude of different modes, none of which are fully polished.
Marlor
scumdog
Posted 3:39 PM 30/9/08
It's all about Left 4 Dead. When it comes out you'll already be bored of Gears 2.
scumdog
cjcamilla
Posted 3:39 PM 30/9/08
Dude Huge zoom in face pic = win
cjcamilla
dowingba
Posted 3:38 PM 30/9/08
@Xuchilbara: Then why'd you say it? Oh, because that's what trolls do. They say things just to stir up flame wars. Like you just admitted to trying to do.
dowingba
Viet0ne
Posted 3:37 PM 30/9/08
a game that will be beaten in less than one day is hardly enough to be called anything more than a game.
IF they consider Gears 2 a platform, LittleBigPlanet is its own industry.
Viet0ne
Atheist Jew
Posted 3:37 PM 30/9/08
*sigh*
Atheist Jew
benjaamin
Posted 3:36 PM 30/9/08
Take this guy's koolaid already, daaamn.
benjaamin
smartboydan hates college
Posted 3:36 PM 30/9/08
Translation: Single-player takes 15 hours. Multiplayer gets boring in two months.
smartboydan hates college
SnakesSolids
Posted 3:36 PM 30/9/08
And the super-zoom pictures are back!
Luke you rock. I've been missing those.
SnakesSolids
scotty
Posted 3:35 PM 30/9/08
I'll believe it when I see it happen. And I sure as hell know I won't see it happen when I rent it.
scotty
Xuchilbara
Posted 3:34 PM 30/9/08
Its a platform because it makes the 360 basically.... I will be flamed now.
Xuchilbara
Xuchilbara
Posted 3:34 PM 30/9/08
Its a platform because Gears is what makes the 360 basically..... I will be flamed now.
Xuchilbara
Cell9song
Posted 3:34 PM 30/9/08
after his knuckle-headed comments about the PC version I've lost any interest in what Cliffy has to say.
Cell9song
tajash
Posted 3:33 PM 30/9/08
Thats kind of mean...
tajash
McClain
Posted 3:33 PM 30/9/08
I almost traded the first one in after owning it for about a year, but right before I did my friends stared to play online. So it is still setting here waiting for me to play it again. Guess I'll use it for trade in credit for Gears 2
McClain
Clarke
Posted 3:32 PM 30/9/08
So what? No sequels? Yeah right.
Clarke
Sam_Lowry
Posted 3:32 PM 30/9/08
Well I'll believe it when I see it. But I do like that they're going to have some online modes where you can respawn after you die.
Sam_Lowry
dowingba
Posted 3:32 PM 30/9/08
Wait uhh... just how long is this game then?
dowingba
othertim
Posted 3:32 PM 30/9/08
Dude Huge: never not funny
othertim
Roc-Thul
Posted 3:31 PM 30/9/08
And then it's only barely longer than the first.
Roc-Thul
dgonchild
Posted 4:23 PM 30/9/08
I'm tired of this guy. Can someone else at Epic do the talking from now on?
dgonchild
CitizenInsane27
Posted 4:23 PM 30/9/08
@Archaotic: I still have faith in the Huge, but I do not put faith in his games as I once did. He had more cred with me when Gears 1 came out. This time, I'm just expecting the better next story arc of Gears, nothing more. The way he is building it up though, yes, he is insane, and will be reamed for it. Give it time.
CitizenInsane27
NeoAkira
Posted 4:21 PM 30/9/08
@-Scrixx-:
I would think that Spore would be the industry and LBP would be the nation. You know, since LBP actually has some depth to it.
NeoAkira
Talleh
Posted 4:20 PM 30/9/08
I don't know...I could see it easily be fun for months, great games usually are, but I don't hold the series in very high regard. The single-player was ok for gears 1, but not worth a purchase. If the MP is better....oh well, I don't really care about a games MP much at all. I'd rather play for a story, characters and progression towards a climax.
In MP, it's all good fun, but I can't spend weeks and weeks on an experience that doesn't change, the surroundings don't change, there isn't any character development, no goal and no point. So for me, it gets old pretty quick. I liked CoD4's MP, but it didn't seem like there was a reason for me to go on playing. It was pretty fun for a while, but nothing to keep me going in the long run. The whole progression, earning weapons, perks, things of that sort was fun the first time through to 55, but after that...why? Halo 3 was fun, but after I'd played each map 4-5 times, and each gametype, it just didn't seem like there was any goal, and no reason to continue. I still play occasionally, a quick bit of entertainment, but nothing lasting.
Talleh
NeVeRMoRe666
Posted 4:20 PM 30/9/08
@Xuchilbara: Left 4 Dead, Fallout 3, Star Ocean 4, Last Remanent, Banjo-Kazooie, Gears of War 2, Fable 2, Saints Row 2, Battle Fantasia, Silent Hill, ...I have no idea how you have nothing to look forward to..I'm swamped with having too many games to buy and not enough time.
NeVeRMoRe666
CitizenInsane27
Posted 4:20 PM 30/9/08
@AnonUserAnonymous: The hype train will hit more close to November, no doubt. No way in hell MS and Epic aren't gonna push hundreds of marketing tactics down our throats, I mean, sure, the game will probably sell itself for the most part. But in light of that, they still will back it like their grandmother on trial for murder.
CitizenInsane27
CitizenInsane27
Posted 4:19 PM 30/9/08
@Mister_Jack: Well put, blunt, but well put.
CitizenInsane27
henri1kk
Posted 4:18 PM 30/9/08
Let them talk! If this game turns out as good as the first one it's a sure GOTY contender!
IMO, it will turn out better and I'll be at a games store near me, first thing in the morning, to buy the crap out of it!
And for those people that keep saying that it's a game we'll pay for "months, if not years to come", yeah, we will! But we'll love the hell out of it!
And if you bitch about spending $6/month on Live or ocasionally spending some MS Points on DLC then you can't really consider yourself a serious gamer, let alone a hardcore one!
henri1kk
CitizenInsane27
Posted 4:17 PM 30/9/08
@dowingba: Yeah, when he can throw some figures around, then we'll talk. Until then, the prosecution rests.
CitizenInsane27
Cazamalos
Posted 4:13 PM 30/9/08
@Alex_Mexico: @Alex_Mexico:
a la mierda el puto socialismo! cáncer de LA!
Cazamalos
HikariOblivion
Posted 4:13 PM 30/9/08
... stretching much? XD
HikariOblivion
Strife56
Posted 4:12 PM 30/9/08
GAME.
I think Cliffy has had a little too much to drink.
Strife56
Chibirazi
Posted 4:11 PM 30/9/08
GoW engine doesnt lend itself to many settings and would need heavy modification.
You know like cover animations that dont suck and so on.
Ah but yeah,that smells like map addons.
Have fun with that 360ers,no free addons for you because they dont have to release them for PC now hehe.
Chibirazi
AlbenoEpiX
Posted 4:10 PM 30/9/08
@Majinyoshi:
But as a platform, it would be fair to say that you've spent more time playing the Wii itself than any individual Wii game.
AlbenoEpiX
coveredinblood
Posted 4:09 PM 30/9/08
platform? Show or say something new
coveredinblood
Alex_Mexico
Posted 4:08 PM 30/9/08
@Cazamalos: I knew it!!! abajo el socialismo! XD
Alex_Mexico
Majinyoshi
Posted 4:06 PM 30/9/08
Wii is a platform...I barely play that
Majinyoshi
henri1kk
Posted 4:06 PM 30/9/08
@Xuchilbara:
Poor you...
henri1kk
Cazamalos
Posted 4:06 PM 30/9/08
@Alex_Mexico:
im from vzla
jajajaj
*hahaha
Cazamalos
themadman123
Posted 4:04 PM 30/9/08
I highly doubt I'll be playing Gears two for months let alone weeks or day...I'll beat it the day it launches and then move on to the next game...but whatever
themadman123
Alex_Mexico
Posted 4:03 PM 30/9/08
@Cazamalos: I cant bet you my entire wallet you're mexican. Or at least spanish is yoour first language.
I can tell easily by the "jajaja" instead of a "lol" or a "hahaha" XD
Alex_Mexico
Prelate_Zeratul
Posted 4:03 PM 30/9/08
Don't really care much about what he says so let him talk all he wants about Gears 2
Prelate_Zeratul
Cazamalos
Posted 4:02 PM 30/9/08
@Red Peter:
thats coz you play ONLINE and multp, ripp off the online multiplayer from any shooter, and theyr going to suck and you just goint to play it like 4 hours...
Cazamalos
kryzhal
Posted 4:01 PM 30/9/08
By platform I think he means that it's a jumping point to another better game. As though they were reserving ideas for the sequel.
I hope it's not though as I thought the co-op campaign was excellent except for it being so short.
Who am I to say anything about what dude huge says. For all I know platform could be from a whole new language.
kryzhal
AnonUserAnonymous
Posted 4:01 PM 30/9/08
@LittleBigPlaneteer: I dont know bro. If Gears 2 is anything like the first Gears, and as good as some of the previews are making it seem, then they should market this game like Halo. They are not hyping it enough IMO, Ive heard much more about Fable 2, Lol.
AnonUserAnonymous
Alex_Mexico
Posted 4:00 PM 30/9/08
@Red Peter: I was looking for a synonim for overhype. Forgive my "spanglish"....
Alex_Mexico
Marlor
Posted 4:42 PM 30/9/08
@Xuchilbara:
There are plenty of games to look forward to on all the major platforms. Just because some of the games aren't to your taste doesn't mean you have to go on about how a particular platform is devoid of games. That's what trolls do.
You say you have a PS3 as well. Great. Then you have another platform to look forward to games on. If there's nothing you like on the 360, then get games for your PS3. In a few months time, the tables might be reversed.
Just don't go making definitive statements about platforms based on your own personal tastes in games.
Marlor
Littlefields
Posted 4:41 PM 30/9/08
@Xenigma:
From what I'm seeing. Gears 2 isn't as ground breaking as he says it is. Of course I'm only looking at gameplay footage, but still. Whatever that's innovative in Gears 2 probably is already in Gears 1. And that's what I fear most. For me, there seems to be a big chunk of sequel missing from it. Sure new features, new characters, new levels, more colors. But is that the only thing that defines it as a sequel? What's the "big new thing" that's introduced? Seriously. Where is it?
Littlefields
linoge
Posted 4:41 PM 30/9/08
i could consider a game like gta San Andreas a console
but not a linear game like gears of war that's bs
honestly this guy has his head so far up his ass he could choke on it
linoge
terminaljeremy
Posted 4:34 PM 30/9/08
I gotta say, all hype from Mr D Huge aside, this looks like it's going to be amazing. It seems like it's hip to bag out GOW now, but it's the only game I've ever played through the SP half a dozen times (including co-op). I never even touched the multiplayer and I got much more out of it than, say, Mass Effect or GTA IV, or Lost Odyssey or any other 'long' game you care to mention. It's a bloody good game, fun as all hell, and if #2 delivers like the first one, I'm right there.
terminaljeremy
Ouren
Posted 4:33 PM 30/9/08
@CitizenInsane27: Well, it COULD be a platform... if they didn't remove the PC version, and left out mods again for the Xbox.
PS3's UT3 has a wonderfully thriving UT3 community, because it -IS- a platform, unlike UT3's Xbox community.
Ouren
terminaljeremy
Posted 4:29 PM 30/9/08
@themadman123: You're so cool.
terminaljeremy
Archaotic
Posted 4:28 PM 30/9/08
@CitizenInsane27:
At least one thing's for sure...it's gonna be hilarious to watch him get roasted for this Molyneux-level bullshit speak...although at the same time it's kinda sad to see how far he's fallen since the UT days. I don't hate Cliffy, I just wish he wasn't connected to Gears at all.
Archaotic
NeVeRMoRe666
Posted 4:27 PM 30/9/08
@Xuchilbara: Also, what's coming out for PS3 this year (2008)? I, for one, would like to know. So far, the only thing I'm excited for is LBP (so sweet it is), but I don't even have it preordered yet...
:(
NeVeRMoRe666
Xenigma
Posted 4:26 PM 30/9/08
He's proud of his game, and we all know we're going to love it too. I think I can let some boasting like this slide, though I wonder if we'll end up being disappointed if he insists on using such grandiose language.
Xenigma
CitizenInsane27
Posted 4:25 PM 30/9/08
@henri1kk: I don't think anyone is really jumping to the conclusion that the game isn't worth the cash, as much as just he cannot say something like that without invariable proof to back it. I like Live as much as the next guy, but something tells me that this game will not even get close to holding me like CoD4 did. Let alone to call itself a full platform.
CitizenInsane27
misterx231
Posted 4:25 PM 30/9/08
I really dont want to sound like a fanboy but,I well no there is no way to say any thing after that and not sound like a fanboy. Il just say ....... long games are cool thanks Cliffy B youre the best and gears 2 will shead tears of awsomeness.
misterx231
mcderek3000
Posted 5:13 PM 30/9/08
I already spent over 150 hours on Oblivion (+ expansions) - that would make Oblivion an industry.
mcderek3000
kingdong6
Posted 5:12 PM 30/9/08
Cool, can't wait to get in on my PC, just like the last one... oh, wait. Fuck you, Dude Huge!
kingdong6
Furu
Posted 5:09 PM 30/9/08
[www.equatorialoil.com]
Guitar wailing Aerosmith, Bruce Willis and the gang walking in slow motion towards the camera. Somewhere in the distance the locusts are riding a comet towards earth...
Furu
HitokiriX
Posted 5:02 PM 30/9/08
@linoge:
I agree he's become a total douchebag when they expose the game for what it really is overhyped crap i'm gonna be there laughing in his face
HitokiriX
Alex_Mexico
Posted 5:00 PM 30/9/08
@NeVeRMoRe666: hmmm, you're in a GOW2 thread and you forget the other big PS3 exclusive of this year that's directly competing VS the GOW2 crowd? Resistance 2, dude.
Whats coming for PS3 this year you ask?
LittleBigPlanet
Resistance 2
Valkyria Chronicles
Eternal Sonata reloaded
Bioshock reloaded
Motorstorm 2
SOCOM Confrontation
Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm
HOME
All of these are exclusives.
And Im throwing in Wipeout HD too since its so fucking incredible, just came out and could've been charged full retail and costs only $20.
Alex_Mexico
Formula1
Posted 4:56 PM 30/9/08
@Clarke:
agreed
Formula1
lunarcore
Posted 5:33 PM 30/9/08
@detox29: A lifestyle choice.
lunarcore
Mr.SithNinja
Posted 5:31 PM 30/9/08
So I guess over-hyped piles of crap are considered platforms now?? Vince Young will be so pleased to get a new member to the club....
Mr.SithNinja
detox29
Posted 5:29 PM 30/9/08
If GeOW 2 is a platform because the multiplayer will last 3-6 months...then what's CS? A fricking republic?
detox29
NeVeRMoRe666
Posted 5:27 PM 30/9/08
@Alex_Mexico: Hmm..I can't believe I forgot Resistance 2, my bad! I already have Eternal Sonata and Bioshock on the 360. Not too big of a fan of the other ones on your list (Not too keen on Anime or racing in general).. I think with the full slate of games that are going to be released, I just lost track of some. My ones on preorder so far are: GeOW2, Fallout 3, Left 4 Dead, Banjo-Kazooie, Mushroom Men. I'll have to place LBP and Fable 2 on preorder shortly.
Look, I wasn't trying to insult the PS3, but to say the 360 doesn't have any releases worth mentioning is just wrong, so very wrong. If anything, your list and my list just goes to show how strong of a season it will be for all three systems and us :) provided we don't go broke and the economy sorts itself out.
LoL...I do have to try out Wipeout HD sometime. I still haven't got Braid or Castle Crashers...See?!? How can anyone complain there are no games?
NeVeRMoRe666
Xuchilbara
Posted 5:19 PM 30/9/08
@Alex_Mexico: FTW
Xuchilbara
akumaserge
Posted 5:16 PM 30/9/08
I'm just still wondering why did they take off GOW2 for PC. Seriously, a stupid move.
akumaserge
AnonUserAnonymous
Posted 5:15 PM 30/9/08
@CitizenInsane27: Bah, if they back it like their grandmother on trail for murder then they will have failed in hyping enough. I am talking Halo Lv hype. They had it on soda cans for goodness sakes!! LoL.
I know what ya mean bro, but were too close to release for extreme hype. For some reason I feel the Gears franchise and possibly LBP (Still not sure how the masses will soak it up) are the only games that can have such a major following. There are only three I can name atm :
GTA
Halo
Madden
AnonUserAnonymous
henri1kk
Posted 6:03 PM 30/9/08
@Masterpain22:
That's not what I meant and I'm sorry if you interpreted it that way!
If you are a serious gamer I think $6/month isn't something that will drive you mental!
I define a hardcore gamer as a person who plays games daily and to whom games are an important part of a nutricious breakfast, not a person who plays 18+ games 10h/day...
And if you're that kind of person, those $6 won't make a difference because they'll be put to good use on something you truly love doing!
I just hate the people that call themselves "hardcore" or "serious" gamers, yet bitch and moan when they see a monthly payment as low as $6!
henri1kk
Shad0X
Posted 6:02 PM 30/9/08
(-_-)
Shad0X
pyropetey
Posted 5:57 PM 30/9/08
@henri1kk:
Multiplayer (before M$ and the xbox decided to thrash a perfectly good system) was a free thing for gamers. The hardcore gamers had the privilege if not the RIGHT to play it for free. In that stance, games that lead years (and decades) of loyal following never charged for their online services.
Unless Gears delivers an experience better than that of the tried and true games that have graced PCs then there is nothing to discuss.
Xbox Live, in the end, is a bunch of bull. It's a half baked system that rips you off so that you can play your online games through the internet you already pay for. And let me tell you, half baked tastes like feces... thats right FECES.
Oh and please, dont use that lame reason to claim we should be paying for monthly services. Hard core is not defined by the money that gamers ship out to play a stupid game. Its defined by their dedication to the game that they play and the time they take to master it. The only thing your statement does is shame the true hard core gamers here.
pyropetey
Masterpain22
Posted 5:48 PM 30/9/08
@henri1kk: here we go with the hardcore talk. Maybe all companies advertisement should say "Pay extra for stuff to prove your hardcoreness", and all who refuse to pay more than the sticker price for a game will be marked with the "casual gamer" tag and live with that shame for the rest of their lives.
Masterpain22
TheGreySpectre
Posted 5:47 PM 30/9/08
Regardless of whether or not it is a great game, I just can't help but think "what a bunch of douchebags" every time the guys at epic open thier mouth. They just seem to think so much of themselves.
Yes Gears was Pretty good...unreal 3 was kind of meh, nothing compared to orignal ut or ut2k4.
I'll probably rent Gears 2, but its not one of the games I am overly excited about. Thumbs up to you people who love gears 1 though at getting more.
TheGreySpectre
Poison
Posted 5:46 PM 30/9/08
Cliffy B is no longer arrogant. He's a megalomaniac.
Poison
face0324
Posted 5:45 PM 30/9/08
cliff is such a douche bag its not even funny
face0324
dowingba
Posted 6:20 PM 30/9/08
@Xuchilbara: If you can't think of any 360 games coming out that interest you, you aren't interested in games, I guess. Because there's a ton of awesome games coming out.
Also, you posted what you did with the sole purpose of starting this very flame war. So that's called trolling in my book. Enjoy the attention.
dowingba
henri1kk
Posted 6:11 PM 30/9/08
@pyropetey:
I'm sorry! I clearly shouldn't have said "hardcore"...
I totally agree with you! Online gaming should be free! It was on the PC and it should be so on all consoles! And MS is the only one still charging for it but I think that will change in the future!
I wasn't trying to offend any serious gamers as I consider myself to be one!
I was just saying that people that love games, that play games every day and that enjoy doing so shouldn't be pissed about a $6 price tag! Yeah, Live has its flaws but it's a pretty solid online infrastructure that delivers fantastic content and a gaming experience that surpasses its competitors, at least IMO!
They're not really charging for gaming, they're charging for the whole online experience but, as I've said before, I think it's going to change!
But I still think that $6 per month is not a lot to pay for something you love doing!
That, of course, is just my opinion!
henri1kk
kadaj24
Posted 6:09 PM 30/9/08
Dude, CliffyB needs to stop hyping his games like they are the second coming. This is what Hideo Kojima was talking about when he said Western developers always overhype their games and talk them up like crazy. Gears 2 will be good if not great, but jesus, it's not going to redefine the genre or something.
kadaj24
dowingba
Posted 6:08 PM 30/9/08
@Alex_Mexico: HOME? Er...that's like saying the new Avatars on the 360 is a game you're looking forward to.
dowingba
sigh....
Posted 6:36 PM 30/9/08
Never been a fan of GoW, just felt slow and clunky to me.
sigh....
interim
Posted 6:35 PM 30/9/08
I never played Gears of War, it didn't look very interesting and the color palette seemed terribly unappealing.
interim
GhostWhoWalks
Posted 7:29 PM 30/9/08
"It's no longer a game: it's a platform. Each mode is huge"
From everything I've seen so far, I'm inclined to believe him. All he really needs to do is throw in a scenario/map editor and he's got a blockbuster title hands-down.
GhostWhoWalks
StormdragonBlue
Posted 8:09 PM 30/9/08
@kadaj24: You nailed it. I'm so tired of him going on like this.
StormdragonBlue
Rubezh
Posted 8:07 PM 30/9/08
Cliff should look up "platform" in a dictionary first.
Rubezh
DaveStrife
Posted 8:48 PM 30/9/08
Have they not realised that the more they hype up a game, the more likely it is to be totally crap. Personally I don't care because I already hate Gears Of War, I'm more looking forward to Left 4 Dead or Fallout 3 but thats just my opinion.
DaveStrife
NarutoSoul
Posted 8:47 PM 30/9/08
Cliff Bleszinski=The new Denis Dyack?
NarutoSoul
NoMoreTrolls
Posted 9:30 PM 30/9/08
@smartboydan hates college: Pretty much agreed. But I wasn't looking forward to Gears for the multiplayer... For that I'm getting Resistance 2 and CoD5. If GeoW2 gets boring too fast, I'll have Fable 2, LBP, and a score of other games to play instead. But Gears will probably be good for multiple co-op play throughs (I won't even play the multiplayer... It's not for me).
NoMoreTrolls
phloog
Posted 10:06 PM 30/9/08
I love how this doof doesn't actually seem to understand the word 'platform', despite working in the industry.
Unless I missed the announcement that users will be able to create content 'on' GOW2, I'm not really seeing it as a platform. Words apparently don't have to have meaning anymore - - a game that you play for a very long time? That's a platform, right?
LittleBigPlanet has a LOT more claim to being a platform than GOW2 - - again, when they announce user-created content, or even open GOW2 up to other developers to 'develop on' then I could see calling it a platform.
Based on his ridiculous criteria, the new Disgaeia game based on how long it takes to play is now a platform.
Checkers has been played for years...also a platform, I guess.
phloog
Clushje
Posted 10:38 PM 30/9/08
Yeah talk it up some more "CliffyB" and pray it doesn't turn out to be another UT2003.
Clushje
boots555
Posted 10:37 PM 30/9/08
I HATE! this guy, dude your game is far from a platform. Look at Rockband, that is a platform. You make a shooter and we have lots of them. Hell Gears 1 wasn't all that great.
boots555
sanzen
Posted 10:34 PM 30/9/08
Yeah, whatever. It's a game, get over yourself.
sanzen
sibbe
Posted 10:20 PM 30/9/08
cliff has become such a fucktard... i really hate him! he's become such a arrogant person... i remember the days when he was a little nerd...
[www.gearsofwarrealm.com]
sibbe
theTOMSTA666
Posted 10:51 PM 30/9/08
Its official: Cliff Bleszinski has finally disappeared up his own arse.
theTOMSTA666
Viet0ne
Posted 10:47 PM 30/9/08
@-Scrixx-: Except Spore and the Sims games have less to offer than LBP.
Obviously, you never played spore, the sims or even looked at LBP.
Viet0ne
Viet0ne
Posted 10:46 PM 30/9/08
@Xuchilbara: Its true, without Gears of War, the Xbox360 would have had nothing worth buying the console for when it was released.
Viet0ne
Mact
Posted 11:23 PM 30/9/08
@Alex_Mexico:
Just a note:
Eternal Sonata reloaded and Bioshock reloaded can hardly be counted as exclusives.
And touting HOME as a reason to buy a PS3 is kinda like saying to buy a 360 for the avatars.
Mact
strix
Posted 11:13 PM 30/9/08
I think the game will be really good, or at least I hope but I don't really see it lasting more then say 8ish hours at tops to get through it. Unless they stretch it out.
I'm perfectly fine with a game being played and beaten in roughly 6-8 hours because I don't have the time or attention span to follow things much longer.
Maybe by platform he meant they are making gears 2 retro and making it a platformer :P
strix
Señor Cagon
Posted 11:51 PM 30/9/08
@Cell9song: Get a 360. Problem solved. Everybody wins.
Señor Cagon
acez2087
Posted 12:11 AM 1/10/08
As long as I can see at LEAST a HEFTY 5 levels per chapter, than "Dude Huge" will live up to his word. We already know multi-player will be played just as long as Halo 3 in the longterm.
acez2087
Señor Cagon
Posted 12:05 AM 1/10/08
@NeoAkira: *sigh* just like reviews say... Wait for the game since its not cool to be a fanatic...
Señor Cagon
Señor Cagon
Posted 11:59 PM 30/9/08
@Alex_Mexico: Thank you for reminding me why I do not want a PS3 right now.
LBP, Resistance and Killzone 2... And still have to read the reviews...
Señor Cagon
Koztah
Posted 12:42 AM 1/10/08
@dunetiger reads kotaku, seems pleased:
Disgaea 3 is current gen.
Well, it comes on a BR disc, at least.
Koztah
dreadnought666
Posted 12:25 AM 1/10/08
@Mact: Please don't pretend to classify 360 avatars as being similar to Home. Not even close. I for one am in a similar boat. I am looking forward to Gears 2 and Left 4 Dead on the 360. But on the PS3 i have Rock Band 2, Resistance 2, Dead Space, Motorstorm 2, Tomb Raider, Prince of Persia, Little Big Planet, Mortal Kombat vs. DC, and Fallout 3 to buy on day one. I pretty much buy all multiplatform games for the PS3 because of the controller.
dreadnought666
MISTERCAKE
Posted 12:24 AM 1/10/08
@Viet0ne: Gears was released a whole year after 360 launched.
MISTERCAKE
KingDavid73
Posted 12:20 AM 1/10/08
of course he says his game is going to be great... I remember 50 cent saying his game was going to be the best game ever until the next one came out....
KingDavid73
Kensei
Posted 1:02 AM 1/10/08
First we need to question if it's truly worth the mantle of game first.
Instead I propose we offer the term "rag of shit" in place of game.
Kensei
King_of_Bandits
Posted 1:22 AM 1/10/08
my post should have said "Debating if the game is good"
King_of_Bandits
King_of_Bandits
Posted 1:20 AM 1/10/08
Debating if the game is just a matter of taste. So why debate this? As for his comment, well look Cliff your a talented designer and obviously fairly well educated but will you please just shut it, you ruin your cool factor everytime you open your mouth.
King_of_Bandits
kazemizuhi
Posted 1:12 AM 1/10/08
@othertim: Tomonobu Itagaki Rebirth.
...is it just me or do all the "my-game-is-the-best-thing-since-spreadable-butter" types flock to 360 development? Or does MS groom them this way for marketing?
kazemizuhi
_Ted_
Posted 1:55 AM 1/10/08
@Señor Cagon: yep and by everyone we mean MS and not you and your wallet
_Ted_
_Ted_
Posted 1:53 AM 1/10/08
@kazemizuhi: their groomed very very well groomed.
_Ted_
-Scrixx-
Posted 1:42 AM 1/10/08
Especially when Sims has more content available then any other game, Spore will have PC mods and LBP will be limited to PS3 and DLC regardless of depth.
He's talking about re-playability and not depth. Good Game.
-Scrixx-
NeoAkira
Posted 1:38 AM 1/10/08
@Señor Cagon:
Let's see I've already played Spore and I've already seen videos of what people can do with LBP.
I think I have enough information at this point to decide which one has more depth.
*sigh* just like people who don't want it to be true...get pas your denial.
NeoAkira
Americo
Posted 2:04 AM 1/10/08
@MISTERCAKE: Wasn't Gears supposed to be a launch title? I don't remember since that was a while back.
Americo
Dynosaulo
Posted 2:38 AM 1/10/08
@Dynosaulo: Just for the record: i'm not blaming Kotaku here (not that anyone cares, but...). If someone is to blame, it's videogaming247.
Or maybe Dude Huge himself, who knows
But i think it's unfair to blame the guy not knowing what he said. (we don't)
Dynosaulo
Dynosaulo
Posted 2:34 AM 1/10/08
It was an analogy, for God's sake!!! He meant the game had more modes than the first one, and so, it was like a platform, because there are so many ways to play it!
I'd like to see the whole presentation. He was probably just trying to make people understand something. It doesn't seem to have been the whole point of the presentation.
That looks like the way the press changes what politicians mean by showing only pieces of their speeches.
Dynosaulo
pridex
Posted 2:27 AM 1/10/08
Man must suck only owning a ps3. All they do is bitch.
pridex
Chinuky
Posted 4:05 AM 1/10/08
Really? I mean how much can u stuff in only 8 gigs max??? huh?????
Chinuky
cin1122
Posted 3:44 AM 1/10/08
@fuchikoma: I agree totally. The first gears, though entertaining, not very polished, too short, in other words, over hyped. I'm kinda hoping 2 will be better, but everytime he opens his mouth it just makes it harder and harder to like his game.
cin1122
fuchikoma
Posted 3:31 AM 1/10/08
Go ahead and disemvowel me since I'm not bringing anything to the argument, but I have to ask... since when did this guy become such a pompous prick?
Dude passed his prime, now he's so full of himself he just spouts hype and gibberish. Queue Nintendo/Sony style arrogant biz-breaking product failure in 3... 2...
fuchikoma
FillionSmythe
Posted 3:17 AM 1/10/08
Peter Molyneux has some competition here.
FillionSmythe
Ghostm
Posted 4:12 AM 1/10/08
Screw you Cliff Bleszinski!!! That's for talking trash about the PS3 controller.
Ghostm
dazyluz
Posted 4:37 AM 1/10/08
I'm still hooked to the orginal gears, I've been playing it 4 days a week since launch.
dazyluz
neo177117
Posted 5:45 AM 1/10/08
Listening to Cliff... I almost don't wanna buy Gears 2...
He reminding me of Peter. How Peter went on and on about Fable being the greatest RPG ever. At least Peter became bit modest about his game towards its launch...
Cliff is trying to sell it with his "marketing" tactics.
neo177117
Furu
Posted 5:40 AM 1/10/08
I have a platform in my pants. It's huge!
Furu
Mact
Posted 5:58 AM 1/10/08
@dreadnought666:
They are similar to HOME in that neither qualifies as a reason to buy a video game console.
They are just a pretty aesthetic addition that hardly makes a console more fun to own.
I'm not pretending nor at any point did I say that HOME and Microsoft's avatar system were similar.
I would, however, be glad if people would stop pretending that HOME is a reason for people to purchase the system.
Mact
RyuriTatsujin
Posted 5:50 AM 1/10/08
Blabbity blabbity blah blab blah blab blab
RyuriTatsujin
dreadnought666
Posted 6:53 AM 1/10/08
@Mact: Home will be a much more integral and useful part of the PS3 as a whole then avatars will ever be on the 360. I definitely don't think it's a system seller but it should certainly be considerred when deciding on a console. It completely improves the community aspect of the PS3, where as avatars just change it.
dreadnought666
toadwarrior
Posted 7:11 AM 1/10/08
Translating CliffyB's marketing speak means that because they saved time by reusing the same assets, story, etc from GoW they have more time to build out samey levels so you can even more of the same as long as you're willing to pass on innovation.
toadwarrior
kylo4
Posted 7:04 AM 1/10/08
This guy is turning me off of the game too because of his ego. COD4 is a game I could play for a few months, grand theft auto: Vice City is another. I can't see that being the case with Gears of War.
kylo4
Strangelove
Posted 9:00 AM 1/10/08
Dude Huge is showing up more than Jade was before Assasin's Creed. And he's not nearly as fun to look at.
Strangelove
NeVeRMoRe666
Posted 9:54 AM 1/10/08
@dreadnought666: That's your opinion. Mii's certainly sold some systems no? lol. I'll have to se how HOME is, as I'm still skeptical.. If things were in development for that long (Too Human, Haze). Somethings up...
Also lol, kinda ironic we both have 666 in our names. Clearly we both have conflicting opinions..hmm do you worship the devil too?
:p
NeVeRMoRe666
NeVeRMoRe666
Posted 9:50 AM 1/10/08
@dreadnought666: "But on the PS3 i have Rock Band 2, Resistance 2, Dead Space, Motorstorm 2, Tomb Raider, Prince of Persia, Little Big Planet, Mortal Kombat vs. DC, and Fallout 3 to buy on day one. I pretty much buy all multiplatform games for the PS3 because of the controller."
Similarly, I buy all multiplatform games for the 360 for Live (stronger, more integrated online features & community), additional DLC (GTAIV for example) and I like my 360 controller better....so what's your point?
I also hate dusting my PS3...
NeVeRMoRe666
tehflyingwombat
Posted 2:12 PM 1/10/08
well, I hope he means it. I played gears 1 for all of a month, and that's not because I bought something new, it's because I got bored. I had problems with the first gears, the lack of variety and the numerous dull sequences really turned me off. Sure, the graphics were terrific, but the game was ridiculously glitchy... The sound design was overall horrible (albeit the voices were well done), and I didn't like the progressive health system. I think Gears' undoing was the fact that it had a really tight coversystem, but each weapon (discluding the sniper rifle) could carry a fuckton of ammo and every enemy could take 50 shots before dying. I think the game would've lended itself to the cover system better if the hammerburst carried 12 rounds and it was 3 shot burst but it only took a few hits to down someone and the lancer carried a good 20 and was fully automatic. There was almost no hit detection in that game.
Hopefully Gears 2 will be better.
tehflyingwombat
phosphor112
Posted 2:51 PM 1/10/08
Cliffy B pisses me off so much cuz he bleeds Microshit.
Yes I called him Cliffy B.
phosphor112
Mact
Posted 2:22 AM 2/10/08
@dreadnought666:
Integral and useful?
Not from what I've seen. For one, while your Live account is available to others anytime you're hooked up to the internet, your HOME is only open when you're in HOME.
So far, HOME simply looks like a separate application within the PS3, not very integral. Though I'd love to hear what some of the "useful part(s)" it will be adding to the system.
In fact, the biggest thing HOME comes off as to me is an advertising platform.
Mact
tehflyingwombat
Posted 9:50 AM 7/10/08
@NeVeRMoRe666: He must have been referring to exclusives. Gears 2 looks awesome, so does Left 4 Dead. I hate to admit it, but I know Left 4 Dead will come to PS3 eventually. I'll wait for that because I don't want to pay for online. I basically agree with him that, as far as exclusives go, Gears 2 is the main things worth looking forward to. I know a lot of people are excited for Fable, but I'm not getting my hopes up considering the first one was probably the most disappointing game ever.
All of that said, on the PS3 there's not much to speak of other than LBP and maybe R2.
Anyway, after MGS4 came there's little coming out this year I even care about. RE5 is the next big game for me and it's on both systems. Strangely enough, other than LBP most of the games I'm psyched for are multiplatform. That's a first.
tehflyingwombat