@Acebuckeye13: because Activision has something called a bunch o money. plus I'm positive Bobby Kotick sold his soul to the devil

Rutty

I guess next gen means everyone has rim lighting...

ca$h

what I'm wondering is if you can make your jaw the size of a small nation like the lead singer in GH III

Rutty

@Dayvie: I think people are starting tor forget that Guitar Hero was originally developed by Harmonix. They can't really rip off their own idea.

Nightshade Zero

@Muisee: I do agree, I wish they'd go for a more realistic feel, the character models still just disappoint me.

CitizenInsane27

@Gilbert:
I see, thanks a lot! :)

Alondite

@Nightshade Zero: There's a lot going for it. It has "Guitar Hero" listed on there. It prints money. Oh, and that new character creation thing.

RYAMATSU

The Only reason I might get GT WT is Jimi Hendrix. Oh, harmonix, why couldn't you get him first?

Acebuckeye13

@Mit: Presentation is a big part, but the song list is the BIGGEST part, and I think that GH has a much better song list.

bfwings55

doesn't even look good but I'll still rent it just to try it out...but so far I'm not interested

DespisedMC

@NeoAkira: Let's not forget originality. World Tour has plenty of that...

Nightshade Zero

@Alondie (I can't get the reply link to work for some reason): It's worth noting that Sony now requires peripheral compatibility for its music games, guaranteeing at least basic usability of the instruments whether RB or GH is your default game.

In that case, since RB doesn't have any significantly instrument specific features (in all honesty you can enjoy the game just as much without the higher frets) and GH does, I suggest getting the complete package of the latter and just buying RB as a game-only title. This way, you get the best of both worlds.

And if you're the unethical sort, you can also rent RB1 and import the songs to RB2 for $5.00 before returning it. At that point, you'll be plastic instrument Jesus and all your friends will dig you.

I believe Microsoft did the same for 360 owners, too, BTW.

Gilbert

@Muisee: Yeah they should make it totally unrecognizable. And while they're at it they should change the name.

Clarke

@Merauder: I dunno man, as a musician to a musician, looking at that interface it would be so much easier to just get a 4-track and you're own guitar or just pick up any of the free (or cheap) sampling programs out there for you computer.

I guess it's to allow non-musicians to try and make music... syntax proof and all. But I'm pretty sure that most people will get one look at G# and F# and start freaking out... either that or they will go out and get a guitar or keyboard and start actually learning music.

Idioteque

@Zinc666:

Just as Rock Band is a Guitar Hero rip-off.

Its your run of the mill Ouroboros.

Dayvie

@Merauder: That's the only reason for me as well. I still have my doubts though. After the 3rd or 4th song it may just become too tedious custom editing each note. It may become too time consuming and you will lose interest.

The only advantage I can see is uploading your MIDI with the PS3 or 360 version. However, the 360 version can only import MIDI drums due to "hardware issues." Seems semi-complicated and restricted mostly to PS3 for full functionality so I wouldn't consider MIDI importing a strong pro to the game.

I'm afraid there's just too many cons weighing against this one. Of course it will sell like hotcakes more than likely. Since KONAMI is releasing their "Rock Revolution" game we might start seeing a downflow in sells based upon too much quantity.

RYAMATSU

Thank God for Rockband. If it werent for Harmonix, Activision wouldnt know what to do next with Guitar Hero

Scott3D

I'm having a very hard time deciding wether to get this or RB2, since they both come out around the same time. I plan to get both games, but I dont know which instruments to get. Anyone have any suggestions, or is it too early to tell?

Alondite

will anyone really look at the character models that much while they are actually playing? its seems like people would be more focused on the notes. with that being said, the notes look damn near similar

bigman88zz

@Vecha: You can use either set of instruments on both games.

Mit

Presentation of this game is horrible. Hardcore fans will be claiming "it's about the gameplay not the graphics!" all over this one, but really, the amazing presentation of Rock Band is a big part of it for me. Everything is ugly to me, to the lifeless stage presence and animations, to the purple fret slides and kick drum bars.

And no sharing covers of licensed songs? I knew it probably wasn't going to fly, but that feature's usefulness by 90% of the people who own this game just went down the tubes, because 90% of the people who buy this won't actually have a clue about music, and won't be able to write guitar parts.

The only thing from these pictures that interested me were the fret slides. I don't care about doing solos or whatever (like the picture they showed), but some notes in songs are very obviously fret slides, and just holding down a note instead of sliding it is not nearly as fun as it could be.

Mit

It sure looks like a Rock Band rip-off.

Zinc666

@dboy93:

can you use the instruments on both games?...or not the drums?

Vecha

@Nightshade Zero:

Yeah that's true...well, that and better instruments and a set list to match that of RB's. But other than that, it's got nothing going for it.

NeoAkira

I really like the way characters look in Rock band, and I really hate the way they looked in GH3. I'm still not convinced that these new guys know what they're doing. So far the only thing that sounds kinda interesting here is the music creator.

FreakyFavabean

Is it me or do one of those "PS3" screens say "gamer card" on it?

WilburHorse

it looks tight but im not ready to pay the price for this....i already payed 200 bucks 4 rockband

dboy93

@NeoAkira: Yeah, but when you actually see them in motion, it's like you're playing Zombie Hero or something.

Jtn

U @vedicardi:

Agreed. The notes look awful compared to GH3..

Whiternoise

I never like the GH3 cartoon character look. Rock Band 1 a step in the right direction but I wish they took it up another notch for Rock Band 2.

Quicksilver4648

Eh, I'm just fine with Rock Band 2.

AnEternalEnigma

Those fretboards are hideous

vedicardi

i like the cartoony look. the rock band chars arent exactly realistic...both awesome games. cant wait for this one.

fauxbravo

@ninjadude14:

I think the game you're looking for is called "Guitar Hero."
It looks just like "Guitar Hero."

Rock Band looked a lot like Guitar Hero, too :P

cringer8

The music creator thingy looks interesting... too bad that's all GH has going for it.

Nightshade Zero

Rock Band still looks better, imo.

Postlapsaria

Looks pretty good. I don't know why so many people say they hate the way the characters look in GH. It has a very cartoony feel to it, which I think suits this genre of games very well.

NeoAkira

Looks like I'll be broke this october. Rock Band 2 with all instruments, this with a guitar, Little Big Planet, and that random Naruto fighter game.
;.;
My wallet is hurting already.

Musika13

Is it just me but are the character models just as ugly as GH3 or Aerosmith's?

The art direction team is probably really really confused on when either they should be realistic or cartoony.

Pattypie

They are still sporting the cartoony look? How disappointing.

Muisee

Yyyyyep. Still looks like Guitar Hero? Are people expecting something different? :P

The only reason I'll be picking this up is for the fact that I can author my own songs, which as a musician, is going to rock the casbah, as they say.

Merauder

wow that looks oddly familiar to another game...

gee i can't remember what its called?

was it knock rand?

ninjadude14

@ninjadude14: Just stop. Knock Rand didn't make the idea of bands in video games. They all took of what they like form the different games. No game is new or creative these days. They all take a little something of one another, but that is what makes them brilliant.

rayne117

The gameplay HUD just looks really cluttered. And take a look at the lyrics in that one Wii screenshot. I don't care about the character and stage design, but if the things that directly relate to gameplay are not crisp and polished, then what have they been doing? And what are the all important lifebars doing wedged in the corner and all crammed together? It can't compete with the crisp and non-obtrusive HUD of Rock Band.

AppleTamer

It's such an ugly art style.
Of course it's all about the songs in the end, but it just looks so cluttered and garish when compared to Rock Band.

XbhaskarX

@Lightman: I'm assuming he was referring to what the "slide" is in the game, as in real life it's pretty self explanatory.

You see, on the plastic guitar, sliding and hammer-ons are like, the same. So I can see his confusion. And add some of my own.

dowingba

I'm officially done buying music games for like the next decade. Unfortunately GHWT was just a bit too late.

dowingba

@Lightman: Oops, forgot to say that I would infer from the "freestyle" in the name of the screenshot you'd just slide up and down the appropriate note, similar how you can use your tremelo/whammy bar on the held notes if you want to.

Lightman

@TheWoj: Sliding on a guitar is a pretty common technique. I guess in the end it produces a similar effect to hammerons/pulloffs in that it changes the pitch of the note, but the technique is distinct.

[www.morphis.com]

Lightman

@Alondite: The link works!

I'm sure a lot of people have their opinions on this. From my perspective, however, going this route allows you to enjoy the most music for the least amount of money while reclaiming as much floor space as possible.

Also, regardless of what more partisan audiences will suggest, these are both awesome titles and you really can't go wrong.

PS - Another factor is the drums. If you're a drummer, you might find yourself more at home on the GH kit, given the orientation of the cymbals--that is, unless you want to get the redundant RB add-on.

(I know, I sound really partial here, but I think most would agree...)

Gilbert

[kotaku.com]
I still don't get this new slide thing.
A hammer-on by another name (as in a note that does not require strumming) or a part you can play kinda sloppy to minimal repercussions?

Regardless, this one is relegated to "rental" status for now, and I will enjoy my Rock Band 2.

TheWoj

The screens don't do much for me, but I've found in the past that the games look a little better in motion.

Side note: You people bickering about the superiority of one rhythm game to another perplex the hell out of me. The colors move down the screen. You hit the buttons. Repeat. THE GAMEPLAY IS EXACTLY THE SAME. The deciding factor of whether to buy RB or GH is simply which setlist I like better. Hardly grounds to say "so and so game is better/more original".

Lightman

@TheGreySpectre: yes very familiar, but where have I seen this, I definitely know what you mean.

Rutty

Maybe if they had entirely seperate track lists, but since I already own RB2 with more songs than I can shake a stick at it seems kind of rediculus to pay $60 for half a game.

TheGreySpectre

It just looks I don't know..uninspired? Also I kind of feel like I have already played this game ...

TheGreySpectre

Cool. Can't wait!

PlasmaMachine

@bigman88zz: Yeah that's right. I spend a lot of time customizing my character in Rock Band but in the end, I don't really look at it. I prefer the RB character models but GH4 customizations seems to have a greater depht.

Shteve

@AppleTamer: Screenshots < Video. Games always look better in motion.

bfwings55

@Idioteque: Yeah, I see you point. But at the same time, depending how difficult the interface actually proves to be when the game drops, it could be incredibly awesome to not only be able to write your own songs into the game, but then be able to play them with your friends, or share them with the world.

As a whole, in my humble opinion, Rock Band has the genre secure with an iron fist; but you can't deny that the potential behind what Acti/Soft are trying here.

Merauder

@Musika13: You should probably do this, but in the opposite way. Get all the Guitar Hero intruments, than buy Rock Band 2. It's just my opinion but the GH instruments will be of greater quality, especially the drums.

About the screens, well I'm glad I'll be picking up the PS3 version, even though GH isn't much about graphics.

Shteve

@Lightman: qft

Konstrix

Wonder if it's Neversoft doing the art direction too. I always thought they did terrible at making the guys in THPS look right.

Now it seems they keep making these models skinnier. If I can create an avatar that looks like Judy Nails did in GHIII, I'll be happy enough. Sure she looked way drugged out and stuff, but at least she wasn't rail thin.

wolfeditor

@WilburHorse:
Yep it does. Also the screens are old:
[kotaku.com]

icegoat

@Nightshade Zero:

They don't own the rights to the idea, so it is a ripoff even if they thought of it first.

NeoAkira

I'll say this. The presentation of all the characters and venues and crows and whatnot leaves much to be desired. But what i think makes up for this, at least for me, is the better fretboard. I can't stand the one rockband uses. but thats a personal issue. Now, as for the rest, i'll be sold on the track list. But why lie to ourselves, we're all going to own ever frickin version of RB and GH because we're achievement sluts.

TinyLightning

@Nightshade Zero:

Of course because RB has SOOOO much originality right? lol

look up beatmania and guitar freaks and prepare to have your mind blown.

NeoAkira

@akashhhhh:

It really sucks when your entire rant is castrated by your inability to read it before submitting.

Obviously, I meant Neversoft at the end there.

akashhhhh

Guitar Hero always looked fugly. Yes... fugly. I went there. I just hope they do a better job at the animations and overall presentation.

Stalkumi

@rayne117:

Whatever, dude. Neversoft jocked Rock Band HARD. I mean, that's pretty much exactly the same UI, it seems like they didn't even try.

Hell, even the game's subtitle (World Tour) is the main mode from Rock Band.

No, but seriously, what has Harmonix done to improve the genre at ALL? Music creation looks interesting, but I honestly think it's going to be a bust. The best part of these games is that you get to simulate playing your favorite songs...not some unknown tune, no matter how good it is.

akashhhhh

They said that the Rock Band drums will work with GH:WT. My question,is the orange pad/button for the drums going to be faded/blocked out when using the RB drums or was it not addressed yet?

JohnnyHubert

There is one picture they did not inculde (maybe due to a press embargo). I ran across a in-game pic of Hayley Williams a few weeks ago on the offical Guitar Hero World Tour forums. I even submited it to gonintendo.com a few days ago.

[gonintendo.com]

Mr_Raccoon

Ugh. I do not like the fretboards. Circles on top of the kick bars makes no sense. The interface seems more cluttered than it has any right to be.

I do like the customizability, though. Verdict is still out for me.

thefais

looks ugly

ZetaCrossfire

@Alondite: Absolutely GHWT instruments.

6 button drums on GH to 5 button on RB. Thats all you need to know. But! The GH guitars are always better as well. So, case closed. _I.M.O._

icegoat

@akashhhhh:

Check the 'preview comment' option before posting? Unless it doesn't work for you or something.

man in gauze is king ramses II, actually

@Nightshade Zero: ....that was actually intended for your other response to me...

Nightshade Zero

@NeoAkira: @NeoAkira: Activision, Neversoft, and Red Octane don't own the idea, they only own the Guitar Hero name. The idea still belongs to Harmonix.

Nightshade Zero

These games are quickly gaing ground on good 'ol Madden and it's redundancy.

They make me sick. My local EB have 1/3 of their store now devoted to a pitiful ESP plastic guitar graveyard of sorts.

How lame.

Super_Koopa

@Gilbert: That's actually been my plan since I heard of World Tour, I never bought Rock Band because I just couldn't shell out the money at the time and the quality of the instruments really bugged me....so this came along and I was like hell yea, I'm doing that.

alzuna

@Ueziel:
Honestly, innovation in the music [game] genre is a terrible idea.

So, I really just want to be clear here, I hate internet arguing douches, really I do, but you're saying you basically want the game platform and just more and more dlc instead of a new disc with few improvments? Is this correct?

The point I was making was people need to stop crying because one is better than the other; they are almost the exact same game at this point, and there is nothing really new.

PS to my OP: Five levels of hyperspeed was goddamn awesome, bring that back plz.

icegoat

@Ueziel: uhm actually that's false...there is no song on rb that i need star power to pass...NONE...gh has about 5...and i'm not bad i've 5 starred everything on xpert cept dragonforce i've 4 starred...rb's child's play compared to gh, the only reason its hard is because the ho/po never register.

54r93

@icegoat: I completely agree...I hate people that bitch that experts too hard...it's called expert for a reason...either get better or drop down...also, gh hardware is drastically better than rb's, i refuse to play on rb's strats...
Also, rb2 is an expansion...not a new full game...I don't care if you think gh is copying or whatever, at least they're coming out with a totally new game for the series...all rb did was take away single player mode of just going straight through the setlist...which is great to have i don't know why they cut it, they introduced ho/po chords, which never register...and the setlist is great...but most of the awesome songs are in gh, and the songs gh has that rb doesn't are much better than the ones rb has that gh doesn't...and i don't even like tool so don't think that's what i'm talking about...but all in all gh is a much better product, no matter how you look at it.

54r93

@icegoat: Your thoughts on the music genre are terrible. Really.

Honestly, innovation in the music genre is a terrible idea. You get a solid idea down and then you update and crank out new music for the players to play. You don't give people a terrible music creator with next to no realistic functionality that'll be used only for importing popular songs with awful instrumentation. Oooh more buttons. Meaningless.

The guitar is debatable (a VERY debatable subject on scorehero) and the entire idea of "Rock Band is easy" has been defunct for at least 8 months now.

Ueziel

@ninjadude14:

EH i always thought guitar hero came out first..and im pretty sure looked like this!

xyzface

@Lightman: I gave up on that argument. Too many fanboys of both games now - it's like hopping into a PS3 thread and trying to say "Hey look, the 360 isn't really a horrible machine" or vice versa.

Saxboy

why does anyone care about the game itself looks?

i sure as hell don't stare at the characters while playing the game.. in fact, they bother me, on any music game

kokiri-kid

May I now state my general preference for Guitar Hero over Rock Band.

Features:
First, Rock Band 2 has practically zero innovation over RB1. GHWT has a music creator, which is a first. That's about it for new stuff in this generation.

RB1 innovated with the four part band, as we all know, but the only new thing in RB2 is hammer-on/pull-off chords, which don't seem to work as well as normal HO/PO's.

GHWT also has one new thing in the notecharting, the open E for bass. No frets. You dont have to push down on a fret to make a noise on a real guitar.

Hardware:
GHWT has a six button drum set over RB's 5. GH3 had a far superior guitar over RB, and the GHWT guitar looks to surpass RB2's once again.

GH is known for its much more difficult and, for me, much more awesome songs, like Buckethead, Dragonforce, etc, whereas RB is on the easier side. If you want the game to be easier, dont play expert.

icegoat

That HUD is nothing short of awful. Way too much going on to be able to know what's happening.

Carl Everett's Fossil Collection

The fonts on the menus are awful

TehNomad

@Idioteque: I don't think this is gonna replace any music capture software or device. But i do see it as very convenient for musicians to take the time and capture their work so it can be distributed for free to the world.

It's not gonna be easy and it's very limited (thank god that at least you can capture midi), but I think it's a good place to do some experiments and put music that you have already done on the game and get to be a little bit known. Hopefully they'll let us publish our website's url on the forum profile so if anyone wants to see the real deal can visit the site.

Falsoman

@icegoat: For just the price of a cup of coffee, you could help blind fanboys like this. We will even send you an information packet, free of charge.

Yougotyourpbinmyjelly

Yeah, I don't think I want to buy Rock Revolution.....wait this is GH? palmface

Yougotyourpbinmyjelly

One is a screen from the Tool set. With the two worm things from Vicarious!

*squeals in glee*

cametall

@xyzface:
It did. Harmonix made Guitar Hero 1 and 2 which were published by RedOctane. Then Activision bought RedOctane and gave Harmonix the boot. Harmonix was sad and dismayed, but then they said "let's make a new game" and out came Rock Band. Meanwhile, Neversoft (Tony Hawk dudes) got assigned to the Guitar Hero series. Hence, Guitar Hero 3. And we all know how well that went.

yamamoto114

@Yougotyourpbinmyjelly: "they are almost the exact same game at this point"

icegoat

GH is officially done. RB is on it's second iteration and already has what matters above the competition -- BC with all prior music. How many discs is it now that you have to swap out just to find the music you want to play now on GH?

jynxce

I've loved GH for a long time now, but there is something about this game that looks... I don't know... BAD! Thank God for Rock Band. Just the whole look and feel of the game is amazing. And who can argue Blood Sugar Sex Magik and a bunch of AC/DC songs?

Fuelie79

@icegoat:

Actually yes. Adding more and more "innovation" to the base game leads to garbage like needing more new controllers or terrible ideas like boss faceoffs. GH/RB are both perfectly fine with just new songs and better online play and the addition of some more realistic techniques (hopo chord slides and such).

Ueziel

@Jestersage: P.S. I own a wii, so that's why wii quality doesn't concern me. But I am beginning to wonder if this is the development thought progress:
RB2: Develop for Xbox 360, then port to other platform. Take otu extras.
GHWT: develop for Wii, then port to other platform. Add extras.

If that's the case, that may explain the graphic quality. Though I guess people are right... wii does influence game industry, but in a good way, no?

Jestersage

@Fuelie79: Jimi hendrix, dragonfoce, and Satch boogie. And certain wii compatibility.

Jestersage

@NeoAkira: It's a ripoff even if they thought of it first?

Did you eat paint chips as a kid or something?

Spoony Bard

Since it;s Wii quality, RB still need something more than DLC to persuade me to buy it. And no, if I am willing to fork over $600, I am going to spend it on a good Ibanez guitar with floyd Rose.

If they are willing to have GH difficulty, I will think about it... may be. Nah; my friend hate RB because it's repetive, and I agree. If I can easily do expert, that is not good.

Jestersage

@54r93: Good to know that you're one of the kiddies that needs GH3's horribly loose timing to play.

And go right on ahead. Pass Constant Motion's solo without overdrive. Or pretty much the entire Megadeth album. Have fun on Devil's Island. Remember to take videos.

Oh and hey, how about some of those drums? Go ahead. Make a video of you passing Panic Attack or Painkiller or Visions or etc etc etc.

Yeah, that's what I thought. Shut up.

Ueziel

@Ueziel: wow you really seem to misunderstand basic language...i don't need horribly loose timing to play...i gold starred rb 1's career, and have yet to do anything but 5 star songs in rb2...and i can pass all those songs on expert drums...so i really don't understand the effectiveness of your little rant. Then you tell me to shut up? doesn't that defeat the point of discussion? I did pass constant motion and I'm not gonna waste money on a Megadeath album...but I really don't see how you made an effective argument at all. All you did was prove my point, that guitar hero is more difficult, and thus better, than rock band. Maybe you should try not talking, it would seem that helps your cause a tad more.

54r93

@Ueziel: "there is no song on rb that i need star power to pass...NONE"

"Yeah, that's what I thought. Shut up." Very mature. Really helped to drive your point home in a logical fashion.

icegoat

@Ueziel: That's fine. Really. I agree. You can keep Rock Band 1, and still get all the DLC. I'm not being sarcastic. The Boss Battles weren't so bad for me, but they were mandatory, so I can see how that could be annoying. The music creator is an extra thing though, you can ignore it if you wish.

icegoat

@54r93: Ya know, I dont like to pick sides when its not my fight, but 54r93 has logic on his side.

icegoat

@jynxce: I like the export feature, I took advantage of that (didnt have to pay for the game). It would be great to have that in GHWT as well. But why is GH done? They are basically the exact same game with two different track packs.

icegoat

I haven't noticed this before, but do you actually have a shared starpower and note count? And that rock meter has got to be impossible to see while you're playing.

4Degrees

I'll take the non pixely edged one please waiter.

fadecy

@54r93:
"guitar hero is more difficult, and thus better"
That makes no sense.

Tegolin

@Clarke:

If that is the best they can do on a next-gen console, they should keep the series on the PS2.

Muisee

characters = ugly
hud = cluttered
fonts = hideous
creator = gimped
slider = looks like phase, also made by HMX

I was going to buy it at least for the songs, but these screenshots are not helping. it's like rock band is a hot babe, and GHWT is the same babe but with a baboon's ass for a face. if you find any of these pics attractive then seek help. yea beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but there are standards also. and this game is leaps and bounds in the fugly department.

AlphaUltima

@yamamoto114: yes, it went wonderfully. Best music type game to date. I'd much rather play GH3 than rock band, the songs are much more fun.

KingDavid73

@Lightman: I think you're dead wrong there. That's like saying 2 side scrollers are exactly the same just because they're both side-scrollers. If one game makes it very hard to land jumps and perform basic side-scroller moves and the other does it wonderfully, I think it'd be fair to say one is better than the other.

On the same token, Neversoft overcharted GH3, messed up the user interface, and made the "colors moving down the screen" less fun to play. RB does all of that awesomely.

the_loxster

@Alondite: yeah the guitars for rb are real pieces of shit...and 3/4 of every drum set i've played at random kids rooms on campus have been broken...the rb instruments are pieces of shit. GH stuff is always been reliable, hell i still use my xplorer from gh2 it works just fine...

54r93

@Mit: More than 90% of the people who owned Half Life couldn't have made Counter Strike. That doesn't mean the ability to make Half Life mods was useless to those people.

Torgen got his apology faceplate but not his fixed GH3 disc

@Nightshade Zero: Actually the idea belongs to Konami. They had guitar and drum session play in 1999.

Torgen got his apology faceplate but not his fixed GH3 disc

I can't beleive poeple complaining about the characters being 'ugly'. They are in ALL these games, rock band included. That 3d cartoon look has and always will be terrible.

It's the gameplay and music that matters in these games. You all KNOW we never take our eyes of the fretboard.

Personally, I hope that the guitar hero franchise will change it to the 2D Samurai Jack style they used for the cut-scenes in GH3. Imagine the space that'd save on the disk, how much better it would look and you could even have cartoon versions of ACTUAL bands instead of using stock characters.

Lemming

@cametall: I was wondering when someone was going to point that out! Very weird and cool

Lemming

Wow, they both look awful when compared to Rock Band in every conceivable aspect, with the possible exception of lighting, and even then, only from a technical standpoint. I mean, the cartoony look worked when there were artists with a shred of restraint working on the games, now there's more of a "cram every bizzare component/proportion possible into a level/characher/instrument" vibe to the whole thing, that just makes it look busy and cluttered.

mronoc

innovation is good when it's groundbreaking. making a band out of guitar hero = groundbreaking. adding cymbals to drums and a slide bar on guitar and a gimped up 3 minute music creater = not groundbreaking. i can see you thinking this is some awesome way to make music, but have you heard of garageband? or similiar programs? it seems like a cop out to try to create music on a game that's based on playing already famous songs. but that's my two cents. if i see one decent looking customized girl rocker i might rent it.

AlphaUltima