I think i'm the only person that preferred this game over the others. I never finished any of the other games, i just didn't like them. But i loved this game.

So i'm looking forward to seeing exactly what the content delivered. I'm just concerned about the pricing.

It's going to take a lot of downloads to make back that £50 million!

nottsville

I'm still holding out for a zombie mod.

Toothy

yeah me thinks too, that gta iv missed a lot of stuff that the previous gtas had in it naturally.... like mwoody pointed out, this is fucks.

dgkz0idberg

@CreamSodaSlurpee: I could have sworn rumors were flying around of the PS3 getting DLC too but when the news broke that MS paid $50 million for DLC, I recall reading in an article or two that the deal kept the PS3 from getting it's own content as well (exclusively). GTAIV moved a lot of software but on the hardware front where both were banking on, it failed. So $50 million just looks to have been a waste if this was a 'edge' in moving hardware.

SlashZaku

Great. Because if there was one thing GTAIV needed, it was more linear story tacked onto its reward-free, minigame-lacking, stale and lifeless city.

I mean seriously, you couldn't give me a pair of sunglasses for finishing the assassin missions? Maybe a slightly different shade of suit? No guaranteed cop car spawn for vigilante? No ability to purchase rare vehicles for doing the garages? *sigh* Sorry, I'm offtopic, but this game makes me so fucking angry.

mwoody

$50 million. Which is why it will never come out for the PS3 (sorry snappy).

Freaknut

@BritBloke916: I could've sworn it was $50 million, but seeing as GTA IV wasn't really a system seller I don't think it was worth it.

CreamSodaSlurpee

They're late already - so why release this when they then compete with every publishers prime holiday lineup? They might as well have pushed that stuff into early next year when it's less busy and they have full attention of the media and more attention from gamers.

El-Suave

Hmm, so much for "entire cities" as DLC. How much was it that Microsoft paid for this? Ten million? Ouch.

BritBloke916

I'm sure PC will get the DLC.. one way or another

SansSanity

I'll wait until it comes for the PS3.. even if it takes forever.

Snappywave

No 10 hours for me :( Seeing news about this brings tears to my 360-lacking eyes.

Metal_Slug_Solid

Awesome. Unfortunately for me, I've got the PS3 version.

CrypticMetaphor

@NorthernAvengeR: wow, that'd be so weak if the pc version gets the xbox's "exclusive" content. Naturally they'd get it for free too.

jwpunk

Wow,that's strange since Take Two's financials were saying January 09.I think it's a rumour alright.

enewtabie(wants a job at Insomniac Games in NC)

Beware the false prophet!

Mister_Jack

@Dr_Pie:
did you like the story?

dreamfall

What about the upcoming PC version? It's GFW so PC can haz DLC?

NorthernAvengeR

hoorays! more gta! I want to play as roman!

dreamfall

I'm gonna have to pick this up. I'm not really into the whole 'sandbox' side of GTA. I pretty much just went through the storyline with very little exploration.

It makes the game a lot shorter =/

Dr_Pie

Any word on price?

Garo

Releasing in November seems odd. With the spectacular line up of new games coming out I think the market for this will be limited.

nbnz

@mwoody: Indeedy. It really disappointed me, and I was a HUGE fan of the previous games. Not to worry though, Mercenaries 2 got delivered today (<3 it when shops send preorders early) and so far it's goooood.

hamandcheeseUK

@pandafresh:
Definitely!

akif24

That's longer than most games these days, if true. I just hope missions aren't as repetitive as the main game was.

akif24

San Andreas is still the best of the 3d GTA's, amirite or amirite?

pandafresh

@SlashZaku: Yeah, I'm starting to wonder about that rumour. At least for Microsoft's sake, I hope it's false. Not that they can't afford to toss $50 million at a developer, but considering how little it did to boost 360 sales, it suerly wasn't money well spent. But maybe the release of DLC might cause a momentary spike in console sales for few people that didn't buy the game (there's gotta be two or three of them out there).

TitillatedOcelot

@CreamSodaSlurpee:
It was a system seller. I bought a 360 just to play this game, more specifically because the 360 was getting the exclusive DLC.

@mwoody:
You have a point there. You don't even get infinate ammo for getting 100%, which has always been a staple of the GTA series.

Two 10 hour episodes is cool enough for me, considering it took me 20 hours to complete the story thats like two new half games.

That said though, i would of preferred a new city like the earlier rumours led me to believe.

theTOMSTA666

@Garo: Exactly what I was thinking. Whenever I decide to pick up GTAIV it'll be for the PSTRIPLE. No desire whatsoever to get the DLC for this game.

def PD

you know, as much as i obsessed over this game coming out, as well as the DLC that goes along with it, its funny that I still never completed the game. I'm a huge GTA fan, but for some reason I just cannot get myself motivated to finish the last little bit. and with all the good games coming out starting this month, this DLC will probably never get touched. such a shame.

uppitycracker

Personally, would rather it come out early next year. There's too many titles coming out this fall, though I suppose I don't have to get it right away. But another 20 hours of GTA would be pretty sweet.

@jwpunk: Yeah, 'cause it'd be such a shame if other gamers got to enjoy the content...

deadjesterx

why in november? i feel like everyone will be playing gears of war 2

resetbutton

@pandafresh:

You're right.

Also, I won't be paying $20 for DLC or any amount. If it was free though, I'd rush out and buy a 360.

exolstice

Wow! I'd better get to finishing the original story then. *Retreats into shell*

McBanjo

I wonder if they'll pack the DLC in with the PC version, would make sense.

Gofthick

@theTOMSTA666: selling "1" system doesn't really qualify it as a system seller. It didn't move hardware on a scale Microsoft and Sony predicted it would.

As for the DLC, I hope it doesn't cost a lot to play it. I was expecting something along the lines of the Oblivion 4 expansion pack. Now that's an expansion pack worth your money.

Jun581 won't give you tree fiddy!!

Well, the best part of DLC is you can download it whenever you feel like it.

Every 360 game I own, i'd play through once (maybe twice) put it away and then come back to it months down the road and work on more achievements. Yes, I don't go for every achievement, I save some for a later date, it's incentive to play more.

I know i'll get the urge again, so when it comes, i'll have new content, and that's just too sweet.

Teamwork Takedown

2 10 hour episodes? So is that 20 hours?

Veridis_Quo

@SansSanity: well wasnt the dodo a plane without wings? which made flying it a miracle in itself

djlowballer

@pandafresh: I Don't know.. many people felt that SA was too easy. Particularly the flying bits, as the Dodo used to be piss hard to control in the earlier games, and with SA they made flying really easy.

Also the vast expanses of emptiness in the desert which sucks if you wreck your vehicle.

Oh, and the CJ barbie dress-up element was at times irritating (especially since many of the stores had absolutely nothing worth wearing)

And the hot coffee mod fiasco, which made the later releases almost impossible to mod.

SansSanity

GTA4 just wan't that good. The DLC will have to be fucking awesome to get my attention.

IronsUK

@PlayerX: Impossible! Sean Connery would never stoop to playing a badly-accented Russian stereotype.

phicaluk

I'm pretty curious about the price for this DLC.

mfwahwah

Anyone else see a portrait of Sean Connery getting hammered instead of a drawing from GTA?

PlayerX

@nottsville:

Well say it's $20 for the DLC, they would need 2.5 million people to buy it to make their money back. And to date they have sold 8.5 million copies.

BristolRuss

@nottsville:
...
So you didn't like the vast variety of missions and locations in San Andreas but you did like this one?

tehFluffz

@zanzibarlegend: @vgfanboy: @IronsUK:

This is....its interesting. Like watching someone trying to swim up a waterfall.

GTA4's DLC IS a major holiday release. The game has sold millions already and it came out during a time period that major releases dont come out. Now here comes the holiday shopping season. What better way for to remind consumers who have yet to have gotten it or who havent made the leap to a next gen console then to provide 20 more hours of gameplay. Thats insane. There are "major" releases this year that wont have 20 hrs worth of gameplay. This is like them announcing a sequel to GTA 4 for November. Gamers will pick it up because anyone who is ravenous enough to buy the big AA titles that are due this holiday like GoW2, will also be looking to score this.

As for GTA not being any good, well everything is subjective. But trust me when I say youre in the very very small minority on this one.

Modus_Operandi

20 hours of new content sounds great. That's almost an entire new game's worth of missions.

MS has already made back almost all of their $50 million investment in licensing fees. With roughly 5 million units sold on the 360, the licensing fees for the DLC will be pure profit.

CodeMunki

me and my bud (me being ps3 and him with a 360 ) feel like the dlc should drop during a drought of games. we both haven't finished GTA4 much less be thinking about DLC when the epic (no pun intended) Gears 2 is coming? the idea of extra content makes sense, but the timing and price is what will make or break the DLC.

zanzibarlegend

@IronsUK: Sigh. If Dan Houser sucks your dick, will you like GTA? I mean, it turns out, they/we/anybody don't care if you like it.

dowingba

how is still playing this game? and how will two "episodes" compete with the barrage of awesome that is the holiday release schedule .. oh well I guess I can play in between Little Big Planet, Mirror's Edge, Fable 2 and Fallout 3.

vgfanboy

@zanzibarlegend:

Not saying this the second of anything. Its a game. Thats all. But last year there were a ton and a half of titles to play and people purchased those in droves. People will buy this. As for whether this DLC will be wirth it I dont think we have to think to long. This is like when Betheseda announced The Shivering Isles expanison. If you didnt like Oblivion you didnt care but then again you were in the minority. For everyone else this was more of something they loved. Easy buy.

Modus_Operandi

@tehFluffz: Well, it wasn't especially the variety in the missions i disliked. I just thought (and i know that i'll get flamed for this) that the game was waiting for the technical leap that the next gen consoles gave it. Even though it was a great technical achievement getting a game the sheer size of GTA onto the Playstation 2, i just couldn't play the game. Big blocks for buildings, bad draw in distances etc.

When i got GTA4 i just felt that finally i could play the game how it was originally envisioned, with a big, living, breathing city. I'm not bothered about jet packs, collecting packages, doing a million and one side quests or anything like that, i just was looking for a great game, and that, in my opinion, is what i got.

All my friends say i'm totally wrong though, they all say it's the weakest in the series. All i know is that i'll never go back and find out.

nottsville

@Modus_Operandi: good points. ill start by saying that i don't have a problem with the game, just kind lost me halfway, and then all these other games came out. i know i will eventually finish it.

second,
until we truly know the facts behind the DLC (price,length,missions) everything is up for speculation. anything with the GTA moniker sells, i get it dude. all im sayin is the factors i stated may play a role, and its obvious that some people do share this sentiment. lets see how it is first, like with any game.... before we hail it the second coming of christ, thats all im sayin.

zanzibarlegend

Wow, I traded in my GTA after one play thru since the multi=player got boring real fast. I rebought it last month USED as to get a 7-day play before I decided to bring it back. I played it for 3 days and found out why I traded it in. I won't be hardcore enough to go thru the campaign again, no way. So I got my full monies back no loss. I will get it again in the same fashion when the DLC is released. I just can't love the game the way I "want to really" the game just really really needed co-op campaign. But the game is a masterpiece so this is not in any way a diss to the game, I just have a low attention span.

JorgieX

@CodeMunki: I agree, 20 hours is a great amount of new content. Of course for us hardcore gamers it'll probably take half the time, who knows?

Considering there is an achievement for completing the game in under 30 hours, this new content can be considered a 2nd part of GTAIV.

I really loved the story campaign for this game, it kept me interested the whole time and I had a blast. Unfortunatly the MP didn't keep me in it for long. I hope they add some new Co-op missions tho, those are fun.

Teamwork Takedown

I really hope that this so-called "episodic" downloads are really worth it, especially for Rockstar North and the gamers sake.

NYKnicker

Honestly, I'd forgotten I even owned this game until I saw this piece. While it was really fun while I was playing through it, it just didn't draw me in like the last 3 did and make me want to 100% this game.

Hopefully the new DLC will give me a reason to dust this off(literally), and take my Infernus out for another spin. 20 more hours in LC with something new to do seems just about right. :)

@Teamwork Takedown: I agree, I played the hell out of Co-op for about a month after I completed the single player, but just got bored of the rest of the multiplayer pretty quickly.

dull_butterknife

I'm sorry, I was totally bored by GTA IV and its so called "storyline" by the end of the game.

mlubczyn

will it be another 20 hours of go her, chase this guy, kill him missions?

mlubczyn

@Dr_Pie:

GTA is all about the exploration aspect to me. The storyline is okay and all, but it's the sandbox aspect that really separates the game from any other. You're missing out.

LittleBigPlaneteer

You what would be nice? If they released more than just two. If they continued to release episodes until the next GTA gets ready to go gold. Release them at a highly affordable price. 2 or 3 bucks each once every month. People would buy them up in order to keep breathing life into the game. Not only that, but I could see people going out and rebuying the game just to be able to play the episodes. Not that it would happen though. No way M$ would let them see it that low.

Cyco

@djlowballer: Yeah half wings, but you're right.

The Dodo mission in VC was one of the best because it was quite challenging

SansSanity

I played through the game. Not as good as San Andreas. Will still buy the DLC though. Not until after christmas though. People complaining it is coming out at a bad time are missing the point. It is downloadable content, it will always be there for you to play when you want. Buying it on release day is completely optional, and something I intend to avoid.

Refused

XBOX will get now new missions... PS3 will get new cities in the near future, you'll see...

iam.gmo

@Cyco:

I love how people who use the term "M$" always have these hair brained schemes that wouldnt be finicially plausible for ANY company, but they use them as proof that Microsoft are evil.

First there is no way Rockstar could produce quality episodic content on a monthly basis. To do so they would have to basically devote their whole dev team to work round the clock and drop any and all current and fututre titles. Secondly EVEN if they did go insane and did that they would not want to sell it at $2 or $3 because then they would go bankrupt, starve and DIE. Thats why it would never happen and thats why you will fail any and all consumer marketing classes and business classes you ever enter.

Modus_Operandi

@mwoody: Pretty much nailed my only disappointment with finishing GTA too, mwoody. Maybe San Andreas spoiled us, but I'm still pissed that the only benefit to finishing the game 100% is unlimited ammo (that you have to buy and you lose when you save, or use otherwise just use cheats to get) and a bloody useless Annihilator helicopter (again, something you can use a cheat to spawn.)

They couldn't let us have a tank? A helicopter that fires rockets? Not even a gun with a fucking silencer?

Yeah. Not such a great aftertaste there.

DONAR

@iam.gmo: I don't think people quite understand what they mean by exclusive downloadable content. MS paid Rockstar $50 million for exclusive downloadable content. Exclusive in this case, meaning the only version getting any DLC will be the 360 version.

TO be fair, it isn't just the PS3 fanboys that are missing the idea of this "exclusive downloadable content" idea. The recent announcement of Mirror's Edge PS3 version will be getting EXCLUSIVE DLC brought out the 360 fanboys that said the 360 will get their own DLC as well. "They like money don't they" Is the quote I see in every article about exclusive DLC.

You are definately right, these companies do love money. That is why they make these deals for exclusive DLC. Think about GTA IV for a second....Microsoft didn't pay $50 million dollars for exclusive dlc per say. They paid $50 million dollars to ensure the PS3 version DIDN'T get the DLC. Understand what I am saying? Seems like the same thing, but it is and it isn't if you think about it.

Bii-Nii-Wii-Nii

I hope 10 hours is 10 hours of main missions if someone was using an end game character and not like the Mass Effect dlc mission that took all of about 20 minutes.

@Toothy: I'm sure I saw somewhere (maybe Kotaku?) something about a new multiplayer mode where you have to withstand the onslaught of zombified people.

Pudgey

Do people even care about the DLC for GTA4 anymore? Saints Row 2 will probably be out by then and everyone will be playing that seeing as how GTA4 was a big disappointment.

DNAgent

@iam.gmo: You have aptly demonstrated the point at which optimism becomes delusion.

Sevius

either you are a stupid, deluded fanboy or you are being sarcastic. im gonna lean towards the first.

maraxusofk

$50 million for exclusive DLC for GTA IV.

And some of you fools think that's a bad deal? Let me shine some light up your rectums so you can see for a moment.

Whether people actually buy GTA or not, they will be influenced by the press that MS gets exclusive content to one of the hottest games this generation while the PS3 is left out in the cold. This makes the 360 a more appealing purchase, regardless of if they buy GTA or not, because odds are, GTA won't be the only game like this. (See Fallout 3)

Now, as to the question about the $50 million being worth it, think of it as a commercial. You could get the 360 in the press for months with exclusive DLC, or you could run four 1 minute commercials during the Superbowl.

As a gamer, I sure will enjoy the 20 hours more game to play a lot more than I would 4 minutes worth of commercials.

AkaMagi

@DNAgent:

.........ahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhaha.

Modus_Operandi

@AkaMagi: I believe it will benefit Microsoft tremendously if they can get this dlc out for the holiday. Say the words "Grand Theft Auto", "new content" and it simply can't be ignored. Sure, not everyone will be influenced by this, but a large percentage of gamers will, I guarantee it.

Put all that together with everything else hitting the 360 this holiday and you have got yourself a pretty good promotion, just as you were saying.

Bii-Nii-Wii-Nii

A part of me wants to hear this is coming to PS3... but another part of me is still on the 2nd island, so I guess it doesn't matter yet.

But I would like to know it's coming eventually... for whatever it's worth. This is by far my favorite in the series so far since the bugs have been tamed so well it's actually playable! Hell... polished even!

fuchikoma

@GoalieLax: I agree I think they waited too long to release it. This stuff should have been out in July.

Murderdolls

@pandafresh: GTA 3 was the best IMO

Murderdolls

a whole part of me doesn't even care anymore...DLC 6 months after release? please...by that time it'll be Fallout 3, little big planet, new RB/GH...R* screwed the pooch on this one with an ENORMOUS delay between launch and DLC

GoalieLax

@AkaMagi: if this DLC gets advertised, you have a point. if not? its hard to call it something that moves systems this late after the fact.
again, we'll see in the coming months if this is true. if it doesnt debut till january, that's gonna be even harder a stretch.

TheIrishNinja

@Toothy: this, i would buy the game for.

its always cool to get more replay for your game, but im interested in seeing if this pays off for MS or not. $50 mill is quite a lot, but again, if you're gonna dump it on one game's DLC, this would be the one.

TheIrishNinja

20 hours? Has long that it's not like behind the box of final fantasy 2, where it said 70 hours. I finished the game the first time with almost all in 15 hours lol.

A zombie gta fest? Bring it on, sounds cool!

@Murderdolls:

Well gta 3 put the series on the map and actually made it fun to play, the 2 others before I really didn't like playing, but the idea was great

GodKiller0

Lol, I thought this DLC would be awesome if they added the things they shouldn't have pulled from the game. My DLC list...

1. Parachutes (Thanks for the 'copters with no 'chutes)
2. Video Recorder (The new physics allow for humorous things to happen, let us share them)
3. More weapons and cars

Sounds like it's not gonna be worth it though. Thankfully I have a nice computer and the video recorder is included in that version.

nitromic

Mercs 2 made me see this game in a whole new light. I already liked it a lot - first GTA game I ever completed but they really put a lot of effort into the details.

Flying through the windshield after a nasty and other things that really make you appreciate how well the animation system Euphoria and GTA physics system come together for an incredible open world experience. In comparison Mercs 2 feels unfinished and if you compared the physics/animations of both, Mercs 2 feels feels like a last-gen game hastily ported to current-gen hardware. Too bad really since there's a good game in Mercs it just wasn't quite done.

dnez

@SlashZaku: I remember reading a Rockstar guy saying something along the lines of "it won't be what 360 is getting but PS3 users will get something." That may still happen but who knows. I still think that, give it a year (if anyone even cares by then) and PS3 will get it. By this point though I'm done with this game.

kylo4

$50 mil and the 360 does not get Vice City converted? Holy shit did they get screwed.

Sonic84

i wont lie, im still bummed about ps3 not getting extra content, but at the same time... i dont really WANT more missions anyways.

i liked the story in GTA, but its a huge game, and i honestly haven't even finished the missions yet.

but, if the 360 version gets like... flamethrowers, or like.. new cars, or something... or an entire co-op campaign.. i am going to be PISSED.

joeloliol

I'm looking forward too it. This game just didn't have as much replay value as the old ones for me so I'm hoping these DLC episodes are good enough to get me back into the game. Just hope they aren't too expensive either.

Dan2102

I was kinda hoping for... crazy new fun features... jetpacks'n stuff. Maybe they'll sneak something interesting in this...

DavidFU