Says that, unlike every other game he's done recently, he hasn't chucked a whole bunch of crap into it and hoped it all came out OK at the other end.

This is only said about the past. Fable 1 was perfection and the best game you've made while making it, too.

[crappy self praise is shit]

jonathan.

u have a typo. its suppose to be 90/10. lol jk.

kilikafinal

Most people do not like their art much. So this game is probably more of a 40/10.

freakoflink

@ZinkO: USA WE DA BEST: @Ashurahori: Don't be so harsh. Notice how it lingers? It's the kind that stays with you even long after the first inhalation. No less than an 8.

Antiterra

@canceric09:
The problem is everyone knows he IS arrogant about his own game. He's spent the past however many years being arrogant about his own game. Calling a rainy day the most fantastic, revolutionary day for weather wont make it anything more than a rainy day.

Ethan Halko!

@canceric09: Because if there's anyone that never overhypes his games it's Peter Molyneux

Jeff Paine

@Ashurahori: Come on, it wasn't as bad as all that... I'm guessing it'll get an audience at least among the fetishists, and they'll defend it to the death. I think there's a little cabbage in there, too, am I wrong? That's storyteling, that is.

@IronMuffin_Man: Heh... There really is no good way of taking someone who rates their own games.

bobtheduck

Fable Will Kick Ass, he meant on hundred, he's just joking.

AlejandroLestad

"it's the biggest, most badass game I've ever worked on"

so kids, what do clffy b's trademark ego and brian crecente's trademark smile have in common?
that's right, they're both visible from space.

sqoon

i think he gave the highest score possible without making himself seem arrogant about his own game.
10 - Over-hyping
9 - Just perfect without being perfect

canceric09

@Morpork: You call that a bang? More like a whimper. Bargain bin fart in a few weeks. 4/10.

Ashurahori

I'll see his 9/10 of ten and raise him a 1/10 for modesty.

RTW

C'mon, guys. He was joking!

Obviously!

Aethyr

<3 fable

ZetaCrossfire

@Morpork:
No way, the delivery on that thing was horrible. 6/10, tops.

ZinkO: USA WE DA BEST

@Jeff Paine:

At least you can say he is "humble". I miss the days when the people behind the gaming scene weren't hollywood stars wannabes, they are worse and they don't even know how to act....

WDYC

That's not very good now is it. This IS Peter Molyneux we're on about and even HE doesn't think his game is worth a 10...very worrying. :/

IronMuffin_Man

I just farted.
I rate it 9/10.

Morpork

Only a 9? Thought he'd go higher.

Unknown-User

With all the hype he's been spewing out about this game I was sure he'd give it an 11

Jeff Paine

Or Todd Howard's Fallout 3 review!

sean09

That's surprisingly modest coming from Peter.

KainReborn

Wow.... He's reviewing his own game before release. That's pretty sad. I think it will get under a 9/10. The way he talked about Fable, he made some poor souls believe it would be an 11/10 gaming revolution. No, Peter, that job belongs to developers like Hideo Kojima and Tetsuya Nomura. You are too eager to hype your own games into oblivion and pat yourself on the back. You're not a bad developer. You're just not fantastic. You're good. That's all.

Xemnas

Although it does show his modesty, as a consumer; I would be worried, if I expected this to be a Killer-ap. IMO, a killer-ap usually means a developer putting his fullest into the game itself. A 9 tells me that it's a great game but he couldn't do all that he could to make it how he wanted it to. Which means it's not the killer-ap sorta game and instead a great solid title, which is still pretty darn good. And yes I expected Fable 2 to be a killer-ap. A little disappointed but still looking forward to this title a whole lot.

Littlefields

would you beleive him if he said 10? wouldn;t that be the obvious answer someone would say, 9/10 is abit more humble, and realistic.

Omniel

He's lying! Just look at the liver spots on his head.

Who else has liver spots right there?

Mm-hmm. Mr Burns.

squishyfishy

I give my comedic timing with this post a 7 out of 10. It's funny, but I could be funnier. I don't want to spoil the rest though.

Double J

Let's get started on the corporate self-rating!
a 10 says "we made the best game possible." A 9 says "we made a good game..." an 8 says "We fucking hate our company, but can't find better jobs at the moment." a 7 says "Fire us. Please." Everything below that says "Make me the fall-guy when the blame comes around."

Ghede

The man states the obvious.

He should have gave it a 6/10 to throw people off and tell them that Fable2 is just 3% of the game Fable3 will be. Build that hype early.

AssassinTRIP

@Antiterra:
Floaters cut no ice with me. That genre is so worn out nowadays. Any major studio can just pop one out and expect it to sell. Well, not anymore. And just updating the background scent is no better than EA's work with Madden every year. Dull.

ZinkO: USA WE DA BEST

Ok guys it seems like most of you didn't understand the message he was trying to get across...he was trying to deny all this crap that people talk about him that all he says is wonderful things that will never happen in the game.

halopower67

I like how he tenders to his games very carefully but not his fans.

Mearns

I have to give it to Peter Molyneux, the guy knows how to market his games. In my opinion, he is one of the best hype setters in the business. Even though he went overboard and talked Fable up to the point that the final version played nothing like what he had promised, the game still did pretty well, and people are still extremely excited for Fable II, knowing full well the first one was not close to what he wanted it to be.

I also think he genuinely cares about what he does and puts his heart into his work. I definitely respect him as a developer. He has always made good games, not exceptionally great, but nevertheless good. Hopefully Fable II will be the really great game he has been longing to create.

DirtySyko

As someone who loved Fable, I'm obviously looking forward to Fable 2. He could parade around a giant statue of himself while a hired band of minstrels sing his name in glory and I'd still be interested.

@AuraHACK: True, true, but I'm sure every designer has ideas that just can't make it into the game.

Wolfers

I think some of you guys are being a little hard on Peter. I mean when he started Fable 2 he came out saying he now knew to be a bit more realistic when talking about his games. He has been pretty good in keeping the greatest game ever talk down. He slips every now and then but its because he is excited about his project. Frankly I think more developers should be throwing themselves and their excitement into their games.

roguemarvel

@Xemnas: Read the article!

...who am I kidding, no one ever does. If we were making giving informed opinions then we probably wouldn't be gamers. Nothing like the good`ol snap judgment to remind me I'm still alive :)

okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under)

How is this news? Do you really think after all the time and energy he put into it, he's gonna say, "Meh, it's aite, I guess..."

banana_ridah

@AuraHACK: So only Denis Dyack should be making games?

@Morpork: Stale, in the bad way. 6/10.

Mister Adequate

I love it! It's like his own way of showing the futility of review scores.

okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under)

I don't know, I mean, I like the fact that he didn't give himself an A and not making himself look like a self centered developer, but at the same time just as AuraHACK had said, if he doesn't feel its the best it could be, then he should continue to work on it. I would be ashamed if I made a game that I felt wasn't the best I could have done.

madbassman39

I give his review of his game 6 Phelps gold medals out of 8.

Thorax

Even if he said 10 i wouldn't think he's arrogant cos any developer has to have the confidence that he is developing a great game. Even if the game is not that good, if the developer himself doesnt think he's done his best then i'd doubt the quality of the game myself.

ariete

@AuraHACK: i think hes just being honest...9/10 means that only its a few things short of jaw dropping ass licks.......neway....its beter than him saying out of ten...it's a definate MILLION!

last_dread

Honestly, I think if a developer doesn't think they're making a 10/10 title, you have no business making games. If you're not thinking you made your game the best it can be, keep trying until you do.

Psh.

AuraHACK

I'll treat this like anything else Petey M. says, and just ignore it. No good can come of taking this guy seriously when it comes to talking about his own upcoming games.

That being said, for it's time, i would give Fable 1 a 8.5 to 9 out of 10. That is the only reason I'm excited about Fable 2. My anticipation for the game has nothing to do with Pete's Promoting Practices.

Nside

Cliffy gives Gears 2 a Dude/10, or a Huge+.

Chef

I think this game will be a serious contender for GOTY '08!
The first one was near-perfect despite not living up to the expectations created by Mr. Molyneux...
I think this one will truly be perfect and it's a Day 1 purchase for me! He's just being modest when he says 9/10...

henri1kk

I think your all taking this out of context. The original quote goes -"I'd rate it a 9 out of 10," Molyneux added, when asked if he'd fulfilled his original vision with Fable II.- He's rating how it turned out compared to what he imagined, not the game itself.

Alucrid

@Xemnas:
It's sad to look back at your own work and look how good you've actually did?

Hideo Kojima gaming revolution ? lol.

gothamdarkknight

@AssassinTRIP:
I end up being grosse out... :[

Littlefields

Anyone else actually realize the reason why he gave it a 9/10?

He'd look like a pompous ass if he gave it a 10 out of 10.

Ignatius

@AssassinTRIP: *stare

AssassinTRIP

If you state at that picture long enough, you'll crave liver, onions, and strawberry milk.

AssassinTRIP

I think he rated it the best way he could, he was being modest and confident at the same time. I like Molyneux because he's very passionate about his work. We need more of those people in the games industry.

I remember in EGM he said he felt he had been a failure all his life, and wanted to redeem himself with this game. That was pretty sad. Hopefully his game is a success and sells a lot. :)

DustySword

I have only ever played 2 games that were worthy of a 10/10. I have yet to ever play another game that is a 10/10. Several games have come close, but they're always lacking something. It's nice to see him rate his game 9/10 instead of the expected 10/10, but I really think more reviewers need to use the entire spectrum in their scores. We're at a point here where a lot of big name hyped games are guaranteed at least an 8 no matter how many shortcomings they have. People tend to forget about 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7.

BigDragon

If Peter Molyneux can't even 10 his own game, then it must be THAT bad.

BluFire

I give you all a 6/10.

For what? It doesn't matter.

peAr nectAr

@AuraHACK: Even if your assigned to make a new movie game and are only given 6 months to look at the story and characters?

Ra is on Sports Night

I guess rating your own material is different from person to person. My forte is writing, or even when I've directed something between friends or acted in it, I'm a perfectionist for my own work. I am my harshest critic, mainly because I took use of a quote that Quentin Tarantino threw around back in the day and read/look at what I come up with as someone else, almost as if I didn't write it. I'd be the first to see all the problems with it (I'd point them out too) and the first to say what I created sucks. I can and have done that, as well as promoting writing I think is my best (which comes across completely differently to people than saying it sucks).

Having said that, I understand it's an entirely new ballpark when you are backed by a studio and have put in millions of dollars and thousands of man hours. It's business, so it is to be expected.

kylo4

@Amazon_Chris: I believe a mortal combat game for the GBA.

Thorax

I was fully expecting at least a 12 from him.

rbernard80

They did ask him outright to review it, if he said 10/10 you'd all call him arrogant.

Golem29

@AuraHACK: A true artist is never satisfied with his work. He notices all the flaws that no one else does.

Thorax

@Thorax: What game was it...

Amazon_Chris

I dunno what's worse: the fact that he actually gave his own game a score, or the fact that he didn't give it a ten. If someone told me their kid's behavior in public was a 9/10, I'd expect them to be completely uncontrollable.

cornunderscore2x

I thought we weren't allowed to use Dude Huges anymore. Also, B&W shots do not work well with liverspots.

dunetiger reads kotaku, seems pleased

@BigDragon: and 0. Yes, EGM once gave a game 0. Strange, because I don't think I've ever seen them give a game 1.

Thorax

...when asked if he'd fulfilled his original vision with Fable II.

It's 9/10 of what he wanted it to be. Kind of like Kojima said he didn't completely meet his goals. It's not a rating of quality, but personal goals.

mfwahwah

lol. he looks like Golem in this picture.

LemonproX

@Ra is on Sports Night: That doesn't mean the final game has to be a 10/10, so long as you think it is.

@Thorax: ... you know, you'd think I would of thought of that being an artist myself an always find something to be picky about with my drawings. That still doesn't mean, however, that I think I did the best I could. But I see your point.

AuraHACK

Well, okay, this could mean a lot of things. I think that it most likely means that, compared to what he's saying and what he dreamed of it to be, it's a 9/10. Compare that to the original Fable's probably 5/10 on hype-fulfillment and you've got a pretty beastly game.

In all honesty though, I don't think I've seen a 10/10 game this generation. That's not saying that Fable IS a 9/10 on my scale even, since I haven't played it, but I'm just saying; for all the fun I've had this gen (because there HAVE been a lot of fun, great games), I haven't been utterly ASTOUNDED as I have in past generations. I guess is has a lot to do with the fact that nothing in this gen CHANGED really, except for the Wii's change, which I don't care for.

My360broked

Well it's his own game, so he's bound to either be over-enthusiastic about it or kinda modest about it. I think this was somehow... both. It sounds more like he's proud of it being a game that he made than like he's trying to tell us it's the best thing ever.

Anyway, just a note, but didn't Dyack say that Too Human was better than Eternal Darkness? Oh well, that doesn't matter. I have faith that Fable 2 will be an incredible game. Loved the first one, and I'm sure this one will be awesome. I think I actually believe this guy, it sounds like he's learned his lesson about over-hyping things.

FreakyFavabean

Well, he could have done worse.

I rate this comment a 9/10.

Ad-hominem

It was a mistake to try and rate his own game. It doesn't have any useuful information. He would have been better off talking about what kind of impression he wants to convey to the players through this game.

Velops

Why is he releasing it if it isn't a 10 in his book? He obviously doesn't care about the quality of his games, I am definitely not buying Fable II now.

okor

Fable is one of the reasons I might get a 360 instead of a ps3.

kirstpo

God...damnit...Peter...keep...your...fucking...mouth...shut

Fable syndrome didn't wear off after the first one I see.

DrSteinman

""I'd rate it a 9 out of 10," Molyneux added, when asked if he'd fulfilled his original vision with Fable II."

He's answering a question on a number scale...... its not a review of his own game.

It seems to me he's saying they almost hit exactly what he had envisioned.

Docwastaken

even Kojima was critical of MGS4 when it was complete.

Fable 2 will be awesome. even the composer said it was the best game he's ever played, it even made him cry. (tho i don't know how many games he's finished in his career as a music professional).

ruba-dub-dub

C'mon, its obvious that he's just low balling his rating to get a better rating.

Any time anyone ever asks me how I think I did, I always shoot low. That way, they feel bad and give me money.

Wait, what were we talking about? Oh Fable 2, right. 7.9!

2NinjasTapedTogether

@2NinjasTapedTogether: 7.9? Oh no you di'nt.

AuraHACK

I wonder how much he would have given Fable 1.
The fact that I didn't even finish it and decided to erase it before 50 other games I had, without even giving a second taught...it's about 7/10 for me

GodKiller0

I think it's a good sign. Like said above, you should be making the game that you think is to the best of your ability.

Saving hardware limitations and time constraints, I'd say a 9/10 would be a good sign. There's stuff that's missing, but more than 90% of it is to his vision.

.endejas.

That picture makes him look like gollum.

MyLittlePwny

@MyLittlePwny: True that.

Ping5000

If he worked for me, I'd make him make games without ever talking about them until they've been out for a month.

Roto13

I'm just glad he held back and didn't say 10/10. That would just be pure BS. As it is, this may just be mostly BS, with some impurities.

It does look like a fun game, but it's yet to be seen just how fun.

Grue

From the article:

"I'd rate it a 9 out of 10," Molyneux added, when asked if he'd fulfilled his original vision with Fable II.

------------------

In other words, HE DID NOT RATE HIS GAME A 10/10!

What he rated was whether or not the game fullfilled his original vision. Now, considering how big his original vision for games usually is, I think 9/10 is EXTREMELY encouraging.

I loved the original Fable. I cannot wait for Fable II.

AZRockslide

They need to ask the testers this question.

Every time I've worked on a game, the testers are the ones who give an honest and accurate score for the game they've worked on.

FunkyJ

Bob Dole gives Bob Dole a 9/10

Bob Dole

AokiShinya

Dude Huge's would probably give it an 11/10, just because the game's characters have jaws that are almost as chiselled as his.

Jambolia

9/10 is great if he is being honest about fulfilling his original vision. Does anyone remember all the broken promises (and hearts) of Fable 1? *tear* Now Imagine a game that lives up to 90 percent of those promises....

cppoet

Few things

-First, his head in this photo looks like a dragonball.

-Second, what will he rate Fable II - The Lost Chapters?

Crab_Botherer

I want The Movies 2 you overly inventive imaginative whore, Molyneux. God damnit.

sadbad

He looks like Gollum from Lord of the Rings...

dirkxxdiggler

*yawn* Isn't it past your bed-time Molyneux?

CukyDoh

I think I'm going to start grading my own schoolwork now. Thanks Peter for the tip!!!

ihateeverything

9/10 makes sense. He can then say: "See, I'm not biased...I didn't give it a perfect."

But he wants to give it a 10, if not an 11.

TRT-X

@AZRockslide: Yeah, but the "journalism" presented here is of a quality in which they can't be bothered to read an entire article before posting a story. The headlines taken from NEOGaf and their tiny opinion piece will suffice.

hotcoffeeburns

Meh, I stayed away from all of the media about Fable before it was out, there were no false promises made to me and it turned out brilliant in my opinion.

I honestly belive that this game is going to get a 9/10... Even if it doesnt, i'll still love it, as Fable is one of my favourite games of all time.

T_Spoon_UK

@Crab_Botherer wrote: "First, his head in this photo looks like a dragonball"

Oh man, you totally win this thread.

Also, given today's typical review scores where every game needs to get 10/10, a measly 9/10 probably makes this game the Xbox 360's Carnival Games.

L_K_M

Didn't he say that Fable II was about a billion times more advanced than Black and White?

sits

I never though anyone could live with his head up in the ass, but Peter Molyneux has showed me the truth. 11/10.

@sqoon: Hahhahaha So true!.

Daisuash

The guy has always been on the top spots of my "most overrated game designer" list. Every since the huge disappointment of Black&White.

lumpi

@AZRockslide: Right. The headline sure does get your attention and hits.

Too bad the resulting backlash is bolstered by the kotaku article about the actual article.

Gotta love headline misunderstandings . . .

Tubatic

@Alucrid: Well done. That only took about 20 or so commenters to realize that.

Tubatic

I really dislike Molyneux for similar reasons as others, but this is what he should have said. If he said 8/10, everyone would think that the game sucks, if he said 10/10 he'd come off as incredibly arrogant. Hell, the game probably will get roughly a 9/10 from most critics anyways.

SplicedUp

I'll give his strange likeness to a mouse a 9 out of 10

Paylee