@Greenman: Zing! The man gets a prize!

@JudgeNutmeg: Wait, haven't you played Fable? That is basically what the game is, really...friggin hobbes.

denki

Shouldn't they choose a director whose movies have gotten better over time instead of the other way around? Seeing as how this is a sequel and all... well, at least they didn't say Tony Scott, yeeeesh.

They should have instead said something like how they will mature it like a Chris Nolan flick. If they really want something MS understands, though, they should say they'll make it over-the-top, corny as hell and instantly accessible- you know, Spielberg.

denki

@JudgeNutmeg: I like how you say "Tom Cruise and a bunch of dwarves" when you could really just say "a bunch of dwarves" or "a bunch of dwarves one of which is Tom Cruise"

Greenman

Nah, they wanted the game to be like Legend, Tom Cruise and a bunch of dwarves running around. Who wouldn't buy that?

Oh yeah, me.

JudgeNutmeg

Having worked with Ridley, does that mean that Fable II would be saying "Fuck me!" all the time?

Poison

leave "1492" out of this!!!1

laser beams

Hannibal was the Godfather 3 to Manhunter/Red Dragon's Godfather and Silence of the Lambs's Godfather 2

Skinney

You forgot the 'G.I. Jane' Ridley Scott *shudder*

Aegis: Gentleman mercenary for hire...

hannibal sucked? really?

ArmyofJuan

Fable 2 looks alot like an HD version of Fable 1 with extra HDR....

Can't say it looks more mature or dark based upon what i've seen.

I still like the look of Fable 2, but I expected more... The running animations look notably bad.

Defoliantonthemoneytree

Yeah..and I wanted Twilight Princess to have more of a Peter Jackson zing to it.

AlbenoEpiX

Hannibal ruled. >:(

FP_slomo788

Hannibal didn't suck =(

<3 Anthony Hopkins

Scriber02

The first alien didn't suck looks awesome.

zkotaku

Can we seriously get over all this hollywood talk? Good lord, I've heard more hollywood names on here today, than I did watching E! yesterday. No offense Kotaku.

CitizenInsane27

If Ridley Scott developed Fable 2, it wouldn't be Fable 2, it would be Gladiator in a fairy tale setting with monsters.

A bit OTT, but I'm just glad they didn't say George Lucas.

Ravel

1. 'Hannibal' is my favourite of the Lector trilogy.
2. 'A Good Year' is Scott's most unwatchable film.
3. Ridley Scott can't help but inspire games. Miyamoto claims that he got the idea for The Legend of Zelda after watching 'Legend'. Metroid is clearly based on 'Alien', and there's a strong possibility of Ridley actually being named after Ridley Scott.

marmidukestank

@Scriber02: @Greenman:

:¬D

JudgeNutmeg

@Ravel: Actually, GL would have been a relatively equal substitute: both are highly overrated directors with great visual flair and a few good ideas that usually get drowned out in the flood of mediocrity, pompousness/pretentiousness, and a bit of self-absorption/self-righteousness.

thespyderboy

You're all forgetting Scott's excellent work on television commercials. I think that Fable 2 would have been more like the advert for Hovis Loaf ("'twere like ridin' t' top o' the world!"), but I suspect that only UK folk are going to have any idea what I'm talking about...

BritBloke916

@zkotaku: I like how "looks awesome" is your justification for Alien not sucking. While Alien may be a good and fine film with relative atmosphere and brilliant design, the film itself is almost painfully slow. Not bad, but no longer as great as it once was (it holds up over time for a different reason then how it amazed everyone when it came out).

thespyderboy

@thespyderboy: Granted, I will give Nolan credit for knowing how to craft a film - the tight editing to distract/cover up the flaws. And lets not forget all of that wonderful music (Dark Knight, and Batman Begins before it, are quite delicious soundtracks - possibly the best this year, then again, I haven't seen/heard every movie....). Everything just sort of falls into place for what he wants, which may or may not be a good thing (poor "Two-Face"; I put that in quotes because that was not Two-Face, it was an unfortunate love-struck man who had similar characteristics to the Two-Face of comics - a proper one would have been a re-occurring reminder of Batman's failures as a hero and friend).

But I clearly digress so very much....

I'm looking forward to Fable 2, but not as much as I did for Fable 1, so as to hopefully have more surprise and satisfaction.

thespyderboy

@denki: Give Tony Scott a little credit for trying to diversify his style, and not just his genres/stories. I would say Tony's ups (Man on Fire, Top Gun, True Romance) are better films than Ridley's ups (Alien and Blade Runner) if only because they're better scripts/better (tighter) edited.

Christopher Nolan is only a recent phenomenon, and a rather overrated one at that - his films are all relatively the same: fast-paced edited thrillers with twists and relatively human/real-world characters. And, cue flame bait, The Dark Knight is surprisingly overrated (I say this being a rather big Batman fan, having grown up with him everywhere - even watching the old Adam West version despite being born mid-80s). Chief reason being a sloppy script (shocking!!!).

Ridley Scott is understandable because his films, however overrated their quality may be, usually have a strong visual style - Blade Runner and Alien being prime examples, and even American Gangster doing an excellent job of a 1970s appearance (granted, I thought that was one of the worst films of last year, completely unnecessary as was it was has been done significantly better by about a dozen other films - Scarface, Serpico, etc.).

thespyderboy

@thespyderboy: First: I want to just say now that I don't want to get in a dork-fight about the topic of movies, and that you and I both are entitled to our own opinions, and that we are both completely wrong. But here is my perspective on these directamators-

Funny that the Tony Scott films you say are the best are some of the ones I dislike the most- I thought his best work was probably Crimson Tide, though Enemy of the State is OK once you get past all the complete technobullshit. I haven't actually seen that much of his work, as after those you listed, the two I listed, and Domino, I pretty much called it quits for him.

But just because the script is "better" doesn't automatically make for a great film- why Blade Runner / Alien are indivually better than all of Tony's work is because they have excellent pacing, cinematography, and acting. The characters are less cookie-cutter and are more emotionally invested in the story during the time frame we see them in, rather than some emotional baggage that we have to be told about to understand the character's motivations.

Nolan's stuff, while being fast paced/edited, allows him to tell a long story in a shorter time frame, but the main boon from his style is that as the action unfolds, due to everything moving rather quickly, the audience gets caught up in the story and can't wait until what happens next- just as how the actors are supposed to make us believe that they don't know what is going to happen next. The new Batman series is great as it seems to us more real world (and therefore we can identify with it better), and the criminals have become great archetypes for the evil villian- I don't recall seeing another film (any film, not just Batman) where the bad guys were that evil without it coming off as stupidly evil. Nolan and Ridley are both able to kick us into a movie with relatively back story and develop the characters quickly through their actions, while Tony likes to focus on boring us half to death with unneeded development that stresses the point too often, then just finish with a bang. I actually had to force myself back to watching Man on Fire, as after I figured out within the first 10ish minutes the the girl was going to get kidnapped, waiting another hour for it to happen watching the oh-so-touching bodyguard-gets-emotionally-attached bit was painfull.

Final thought- Top Gun had a horrible soundtrack. It would be better if that one Berlin song wasn't played every ten minutes in the film (ok, it wasn't, but 1) every ten minutes it could have been played and would have fit with whatever was going on, and 2) the one and only time I saw Top Gun was 8 years ago and there is no way I'm going to see it again to further validate my knowledge on the subject that I hate it).

But anyway, I digress. I just meant that now Nolan=Money, so it's better if Liohead referenced Money than either Artistic Merit or whatever quality Tony has.

denki

White Squall was a sad movie! :(

bostano

I really enjoy Hannibal.

MSUSteve

@denki: Needs an edit- Paragraph 4- Nolan and Ridley are both able to kick us into a movie with relatively little back story and

denki

Give me another Blade Runner game ! On a side note give me FABLE 2 !

Nexus6

@marmidukestank:

That's a common misconception:

[www.gannon-banned.com]

You read now.

NaeemTHM

@NaeemTHM: Boy, don't I now look the idiot. Urban myths suck.

marmidukestank

If Ridley Scott made Fable 2 it would bomb on release and then in 10 years time it would slowly become a cult hit.
Then another 10 years after people will begin to like it because nobody else did.

FillionSmythe

@Skinney:

My head just exploded.

Prism Ra

Here's what Ridley Scott should really do: Direct a video-game RPG of the actual Phillip K. Dick blade runner story "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?". That would be so meta. And cool.

trigger2

@Nexus6:
AGREED! PS3/360 could ROCK Blade Runner these days - with all those animated japanese-geisha billboards and neon glowy things. It would be shader bliss.

trigger2

Has everyone forgotten that Ridley Scott has done a dark fantasy movie? Does anyone remember Legend?

[www.imdb.com]

jaypee68

@denki: Oh it's on now.

Not really. I think we're actually on the same page for Nolan, so I'll skip that.

As for the Scott's, I haven't actually seen Blade Runner, Man on Fire, Top Gun, Crimson Tide, or possibly even Enemy of the State (think I've seen it, but don't remember), so I can't really say anything too definitive about either; I merely give Tony a little respect for branching out/trying, whereas I don't really care for Ridley since his pace is either too slow, or he's too in love with his own films (read: excessive length). But, yes, Domino is a horrible, horrible movie.

You are right that a better script does not equate to a better film, and neither does the converse. I think I was just talking hot air with that sentence.

In any case, your last paragraph/point is where the money's at, though, as you hint at, I'm not sure how much Nolan is known for visuals, if at all (other than real world grit).

thespyderboy

@Scriber02: Yeah, what the hell!? Hannibal was great.

TheGuilty1

So, in other words they wanted it to constantly rain in Fable 2...

;p

FunkyJ