I can see myself keeping my DSlite and buying a DSi.
I think it has lots of potential. Hopefully nintendo will makes this worthwhile in the long run.

nayeli1100

Only good thing is that used DS lites will cost less, maybe I'll actually pick one up. I'm so tempted because of the games available but I don't know if I'll play a handheld enough to make the price worth it.

Naturestee

"The DSi also features an SD memory card slot"

So you won't be needing a r4 anymore.

And doesn't half the population of the earth already own a ds of some sort?

4Degrees

well with the removal of the gba slot it removes a whole bunch of games but with virtual console for ds it could open up the possibility of just sticking the serial code of your gameboy advance game and then downloading it to the dsi and saving it on the sd memory card, you could have your whole gameboy advance collection on your dsi that would be nice but it probably won't happen.

koeramco

I'd totally get this. IF they still made games for the DS that interested me. Oh well.

who8myrice

I just hope they make the wireless setting better. Anything short of no wireless protection will not work on my DS. Also with the new browser, it'd be nice to be able to use browser-based authentication...

yanipheonu

@108: Let's be serious here now. bird shit is edible (reference the dark ages) but I don't go calling pigeons culinary geniuses now do I? ...let's just dial back that word "photographs" to a more manageable one such as "pictures".... patterns even.

okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under)

Consider how many games actually take advantage of the GBA slot... not many.

A camera on the other hand can add elements like Final Fantasy: Before Crisis had to games.

With the SD slot developers no longer require a presence on the Previous generation to have a gimmick, they could offer the game online to be saved on the SD card and have the game:proper access that, the same way GBA games were accessed.

ReynaldoRiv

@BlackMage66652: Except it's .3 MP, not 3 MP.

WendelScardua

@OmegaVader: I don't have a Camera Period (Cell or actual) The only Camera I have is the one on my MacBookPro.

ReynaldoRiv

@Sooku: Fuck, I just realized this! I got Pokémon DS and the rumble pak.

hagridore

@BlackMage66652:
Read carefully, it's a 0.3 megapix camera, the same resolution as the first generation camera phones. It's not a 3 megapix camera.

neko613

Who didn't see this coming? Say nay.

*crickets chirping*
*tumbleweed rolls by*
*a crow flies by cawing*

....

RyuriTatsujin

No doubt in my mind that the perverted Japanese developers are thinking of new ways to use the Dsi's features. Hmm lemme guess, an erotic DS title where the object of the game is to take up-skirt photo shots of unsuspecting women in subways, supermarkets...Pools? Is that thing waterproof?

tajash

This is interesting news. The only gripe I have is with the GBA slot. I still play GBA games and I also have Guitar Hero: On Tour so it sucks that I now have to have 2 DS if I feel like taking it with me on the go.
But I do have to admit that I am stokes for the DSiWare Store. VC on DS FTW. But the 3 people that bought the DS web browser app back in the day, should be feeling screwed over with the DSi having it built in.
I wonder how they will implement the camera in games though. Since it is faced away from you, taking pictures of yourself might become a hassle. Maybe yopu can use it as a webcam for the Wii. Then it would have voicechat and video (I'm pretty sure that 3 MP is good enough for a webcam). And the bigger screens explains why Phantasy Star 0 looks so good. Maybe SquareEnix will re-re-release a 3D version of FF6 (or FF5, which ever comes first). I hope it puts borders around old DS games and does not upscale though. As far as I know, the DS Lite puts a little black border around GBA games so that shouldn't be a problem.

Maxemillian

Still no Mario...

moosemastr

@BlackMage66652: You seem to be mistaken sir :3 "point three" or 333,333 or 1/3 of a mega-pixel. It's essentially a webcam with the quality of the LIVE Vision or EyeToy cameras. Don't throw away your one-click or camera phone just yet.

okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under)

I just replaced my ye olde DS with a new Pokémon DS lite. Plus I've got an iPhone to take photos and browse the web... And it would be impossible to import my Pokemon from GBA games to my DS games. This is nice but not for everybody.

ryujiikata

This is terrible.

NoBullet

@FunKrusher: He wants more games in the future, not a list of games that have already been out for ages (plus only Mario, Zelda and Metroid are games they made). I would have much preferred to keep the GBA slot and lose the camera. Every phone these days has a camera in it and it is only one more thing to breakdown/drain power. I really enjoyed Guitar Hero on the DS so now it looks like they will have to come up with another idea to get it working on portables.

I will be waiting on the DSiWare service to see if it is worth trading up, was expecting both screens to go touch.

el_rezzo

God fucking damn it. It's like a whole new console.
Also making pirates' lives easier like the Wii's SD cards.
Guess I'll have to buy another freaking DS.

ZombiePuppy

Some of that is tempting, but I'm fine with my DS lite.

QuestionableToast

@jookie: I'm in Canada in a small town...not as much imported shady stuff with low low prices!

KSPRAYDAD

@Bokusatsu_Tenshi: "Wiiney"

That was lame. :|
Horribly, horribly lame.

scotty

I agree. It's hard enough trying to get a national dex (with exclusive pokemon scattered over 7 games before DPt), this'll make it even harder! Especially due to the fact that you can't request Pokemon over GTS that you haven't seen yet in your dex, which makes getting certain pokemon hard enough to get XD

AraTobias

Way to effectively kill GBA games and peripherals using that slot, Nintendo.

ViewtifulJason

@VakeroRokero: But can the consumers afford to be late?

Trowble (XBL/PSN)

damn, the potential ability to play virtua console games is gonna make me buy this ><... i haven't even had my (second) lite for that long~

Alpha85

@108:
ROFL
Best comment so far.
Let me just add this:
[www.instantrimshot.com]

Bokusatsu_Tenshi

The main slot of the DS is open to piracy period given that it's based of SD technology. And with an added SD slot on the DSi, it's just as bad if not worse, easier and cheaper to do.

AraTobias

Hmmm. I'm tempted, but I'll stick with my DS Phat for now.

ViRiS

@KSPRAYDAD: You can actually find 8GB memory sticks for about 45 dollars ;)

jookie

Good for people buying a DS now, bad for people expecting something good enough to replace old DS Lite...

Also, the name makes me cringe... oh hay, using i BEFORE stuff is overdone. Let's put the i AFTER it then!

Well, at least it isn't the Wiiney

Bokusatsu_Tenshi

So what about the games? The features should have come years ago, and the price really 180 dollars.

canchegundam

Rad. I will be buying the black one. Hopefully the hinges won't crack like the lites did.

dantemustdie

@BlackMage66652: Then they should leave out the MP3 playback. It's what I got my cellphone for.

Maxemillian

No GBA slot? I am cry. :(

Walker

@Trowble (XBL/PSN): yet, they still have the biggest market and those guys are eating dust, they can afford to be late to the party.

VakeroRokero

Any increase in CPU? I want to be able to skype on this thing. And a PDA accessory would be great.

davidgot

@Do Kesubei: Not coming to NA until 2009..be shocked.

Also..how much internal ram is there in this new DS? 8GB MSticks are $60 nowadays on sale btw.

KSPRAYDAD

What? No phone and mp3 player?

matterask

@BlackMage66652:
Yeah, thus making pokemon Diamond/Pearl/Platnium GBA transfer features useless!

Floreum

@Spoony Bard: Hiya Spoony! Long time no see!

JohnnytheFuture

Sounds good. I'll be shocked if this doesn't hit the US by Black Friday. I'm out of a DS right now, so I may pick one of these up.

I love my PSP to death, and its audio and video features have been a godsend. But memory sticks ain't cheap! This DSi may replace the PSP as my portable audio player.

Do Kesubei

@LittleBigPlaneteer: they will probably do something about it. there are almost 50 millions of consoles.

VakeroRokero

@delightmail: =) My you're a pleasant one.

Then why does Nintendo feel its necessary to include these things? Perhaps to hide the fact that they're not making any leaps and bounds in the handheld realm? (Other than implementing a DSi Store [which is necessary]).

JohnnytheFuture

@mzs: yeah I know about that, but I couldn't find any anywhere, and I never saw the point of getting one of them

I'm thinking that there's a way, if you have some soldering skillz, to make your own headphone adaptor. It can't be that hard..

9a3eedi

Things that won't work without the GBA slot:

GH: On Tour's frets

Rumble Pak

Diamond and Pearl's pokemon transfer

Anything else that can read old games

Sooku

@Charlie Kelly: that's terrible... like, truly truly terrible

Ryan_Long

@nerdBOY01: It is .3mp

KSPRAYDAD

I've finally cracked it! I finally know how to accurately predict the timing of new DS releases.

DSs are like number plates, once Nintendo goes through all the colour combinations like they have with the DS Phat & lite, they're forced to upgrade again so they can re-release all the different colours. The ultimate indicator is when they get to the metallics, that's a definite sign that we're getting to the end of a system life-cycle.

Just you wait, the next DS will come out once the new DS has say... um... in around 10 colours (excluding 3-4 metallic and 10 game tie-ins)

eoaa

I wouldn't even buy a DSlite. Thinner than a DS, but I'm content with my phat one. Heck, even my PS2 and PSP are the original fatter versions. Companies just don't release updated hardware with enough good features. Nintendo isn't doing much to help. ;(

jookie

@LittleBigPlaneteer:

oops, didn't mean to make this a reply.

LittleBigPlaneteer

@JohnnytheFuture:

did you just say that camera/mp3/browser/store is necessary for the next DS?

news flash, the DS is a gaming system not a fucking iphone

delightmail

The first thing that popped into my head was that episode of the Simpsons with the new Malibu Stacy doll. "It's just the same doll with a stupid new hat!?" "It's got a new hat!!!"

mooseman111

@Setzer IIDX:

An hour of yodeling would beat anything they announced at E3...

mrdietsoda

"They're releasing a (new?) Wii Wi-Fi Adapter. And if you, a Wii owner, help another Wii owner get connected with the Internet, they'll give you both a free 500 Wii Points in a new campaign."

Nintendo is creating a referral program??

LittleBigPlaneteer

instant mega fail

RENVi

@KSPRAYDAD: dual touch screens. 640x480...

VakeroRokero

Would have been more exciting if they announced this at E3, granted it probably wasn't any more ready for the public than Wii Music was.

Also, the DSiWare Shop sounds like the same move Sony is taking with the PSN Store on the PSP. Much like Microsoft is having with avatars on the 360 as well as PS3's Home.

I forgot who said it, but I think it was someone from EA that mentioned something about one console or platform. While I doubt that'll ever happen, each of the major videogame corporations seem to be copying each other in some form or another. Kind of like the console cartridge era, only this time the updates come a good year after the last, just so they can milk their product for as much as they can and drill a new hole in the consumers pocket. I feel jerked.

This sucks, they can go to hell.

Trowble (XBL/PSN)

@108:

HA!

dead_red_eyes

Also, forgot to mention, Pokemon fans get boned as well. Without the Pal Park Pokemon fans will never be able to catch them all until they basically re-remake the Gen 1 games and remake the Gen 2 and Gen 3 games.

Mechalon

Not bad. Nothing about a built in rumble though I see.
Hope they put GBA games on their little download site then, I'd probably be into that.

glamnesia

@MysteriousStranger: Well put.

JohnnytheFuture

@kasplat: the GBA cart is an open door for piracy and homebrew. According to Wired, homebrew now can become official software from the Virtual console Store.

VakeroRokero

@eoaa:

I think it's safe to assume that the Game Boy is DEAD.

dead_red_eyes

@dommafia: you should have seen my face when i typed it!

(hint: i was DEAD SERIOUS)

108

@Skinney: dude dont sell you ds lite to gamestop. sell it online or in craigslist you can definetely get 100 for it if it is in good conditon, and more if its in like new condition.

Milkzhakes

this thing's price will be hiked up, thus inclining people to buy the psp

cool_pinoy2343

@9a3eedi: The charging port on the SP was also a headphone port. You used to be able to find adapters. I'm lucky to have two.

mzs

@Mact: This is true.

Plus, I can't trade mine in anyway, the serial number and barcode wore off the bottom years ago.

TalKeaton

Hmm. Not really in need of those features in a DS, but it may warrant a new purchase. I bought a new red and black DS a year ago after I gave my old white one to my bro, so getting this might be an idea. Hope they have a mock up/demo at TGS so I can get a feel for it.

drifter13

@LittleBigPlaneteer:

If they do that, I'd love them.

Then again, I still own the original DS, so they'd hate me, which is why they wouldn't do it.

I don't need the camera or the MP3 player, but I would like an upgrade. The lack of the GBA slot kills this one for me, however.

Mact

@Mact: and to all: I believe with the Wii at least Nintendo took the industry in a very different direction, and it is up to them to continue that with handhelds as well.

That being said, implementing a camera, mp3 player, browser, store, should have been done from the get-go. I would assume these features would be in a next gen DS, because it is absolutely necessary. Now, tell me what is so amazing about this new product? It does what everything else does. (Except that other products don't play Nintendo games)

JohnnytheFuture

Okay so apparently the colors are no longer glossy and instead matte colored. That's a plus for me. No more fingerprints!

Littlefields

@Deathimself: L2Read

The DSi features a built-in browser, and it's possible to download games and keep them on the DSi.

kiyoshiro

wii points are now called nintendo points. they will be apps coming.

VakeroRokero

Missing GBA slot, I guess that is why I have my gameboy player attached to the bottom of my gamecube :)

mzs

3 MEGAPIXELS!! (thats just enough) Nintendo you got ME SOLD!

nerdBOY01

@Klaymen:

Well, the show just started, so try to sit down and shut up, kay?

Mact

@Magnum Opium: oh yeah, well, they need that for any system too

p3hrmne

@thanatos_:
They milk the franchise further and remake FR/LG and R/S/E on DS. And G/S/C while they're at it.

Browzilla

the camera is 300,000 pìxels which hapen to be 640x480.
3 megapixels would be 3 million pixels.

VakeroRokero

@Mechalon:

Hmmm... You do have a point. Hadn't considered that.

Mact

Pretty decent update but not enough to warrant me upgrading my DS Lite.

In fact i really think they could pull a MS Zune and allow current DS Lite owners to get some of the features available to the DSi. For instance access to the DS Shop. Nintendo could make it so you can have a microSD or SD card slot in the form of a GBA cartridge. That way current owners can download games from the shop too. Of course that won't happen though.

LittleBigPlaneteer

@Charlie Kelly: that is player style right there.

Milkzhakes

Iwata says the goal is to have "one DS for one family"

What a stupid move. Did Nintendo somehow forget the allure of a portable electronic device? Do they expect family members to trade off? Do they know american kids abuse the heck out of them and no wise adult should share their DSi?

PS - WHERE's the GOOD Wii games, Nintendo?

Klaymen

potencial buy

scruffy, the janitor

@Strife56: Possibly, but these just seems like a desperate move to keep up with Japanese cell phones more than anything else.

GrandfatherParadox

I think eventually even Nintendo will reach a saturation point where no matter what they do to the DS, theyll need to move onto the next generation.

Altima NEO

How shall we catch them all now, with no GBA slot?

thanatos_

@108: You mean... like a pocket digital camera? Or a cell phone?

Avielus

@JohnnytheFuture: i know!

108

And what's the storage capacity? Because I doubt they learned anything from the wii.

Mister_Jack

Best thing about this news, the DS Lite price will drop.

Sonic84

@kyte00:
R4 is a slot-1 device, as are many others.

I don't think going from DS => DSL killed the R4 et all any, I doubt this will (unless Nintendo seriously changes up the chip architecture or something.)

Browzilla

So, DS Lite + PSP-3k speakers and microphone + LG phone camera = DSi? And yet, already upon launch, it has a store. Tsk tsk, Sony.

Karisu-Zero

@TheLastGunslinger: Broken Hinge maybe?

Altima NEO

can you use the DSi as a wii music instrument?!?!

if so, SOLD

108

Activision Blizzard is going to be pissed, Nintendo just basically prevented Guitar Hero On Tour and the upcoming Guitar Hero On Tour Decades and Tony Hawk's Motion unplayable on the new DS.

Nintendo just screwed over the second largest third party developer in the world. Whoops.

Mechalon

this looks like it could be the "GBA micro" of the DS

MysteriousStranger

@JohnnytheFuture:

So your solution to them being behind is to not catch up?

By the way, on the DSi Shop, I expect to see old Game Boy games a la Virtual Console on the Wii.

Mact

@JohnnytheFuture: Addenendum: Internet Browser: iPhone/iPod Touch.

Not to be a complete Apple fanboy here, but Nintendo should be thinking next generation if they're gonna implement a new handheld. Chances are I will buy this DSi (everything needs an "i" these days sheesh), but I can't help but feel like this product is a little refresher to Nintendo's profits, to tide us all over until they release something really fantastic.

JohnnytheFuture

do you think its possible that its going to work with the r4? or any flash card (passcard)

echoc

@JohnnytheFuture: Um...they are apeing PSP/PSN not Apple.

PSP has had a Camera 1.3mp not .3 mp for over a year, has always had built in mp3 and built in browser from close to the start...currently has PSN on PC and by WiFi is launching within the month...

KSPRAYDAD

@GrandfatherParadox:
Agreed.

But you know Nintendo, they will have some new "innovative" use for the camera to go along with more gimmicky games.

Strife56

@Mact: ...dunno how this didn't get placed under my comment. Odd that I found it.

Anyway, I said it before, NINTENDO MAKES GAMES. Not cameras or language tutors. At least, they used to. It feels like the days of the SNES are never to be revived...

*inhale* I'll just wait until the rest of the conference. I pray to god they give us something good with the MotionPlus hopefully involving Mario or Zelda.

vid3oman64

@TalKeaton:

I love my DS Phat.

Unlike the DS Lite, it can (and has) taken a beating.

Mact

@kyte00: Probably why they're getting rid of it.

GrandfatherParadox

Just calling this out now, I'm predicting this is going to make up for its lack of GBA slot by selling GBA games through its store.

It would be nice if there were some convention for those who already own the games, though.

TalKeaton

I wonder what the hardware changes will mean for the R4 and similair devices, especially ones that use the GBA slot.

kyte00

@JohnnytheFuture:

This time they're behind the curve? Just THIS time? Have you ever tried to play Wii online or seen a Wii HD?

Hardcore1

Looks good to me. I'm still happy with my DS :)

Spoony Bard

Unless you're going to be able to take pictures of stuff and put them in the game, a camera on a DS is completely useless.

GrandfatherParadox

Download games onto SD card, the R4 people should sue!

jimmyNewtron

@Floral: Whoooaa, whoaa, that RRoD line is a bit of a stretch, but you are right that it is more completely unnessecary uninspired SHIT that can just break.

vid3oman64

@kasplat:

I do find the lack of the GBA slot to be very annoying, and, like in your case, it seems to overrule the additions.

Even if I keep my original DS, no way am I carrying around both.

Mact

@kyte00: I don't know why it added Para in there. =\

kyte00

@Floral: I've had a Japanese "fat" PSP for ages and it works fine.

GrandfatherParadox

@BlackMage66652:

Guess neither of you guys bothered to play Mario Galaxy, Zelda TP, Metroid Prime 3, No More Heroes, Zack and Wiki, Legend Of Zelda Phantom Hourglass, The World Ends With You, Hotel Dusk, Ninja Gaiden Dragon Sword, and on and on.

Sure there are some non-Nintendo games on that list, but the point being is the GAMES ARE THERE...

Guess it's hard to see with all the hateraide coming out of your pores perfusely

FunKrusher

I'm really hoping they don't let anything use the camera and SD card as mandatory features. While it could be awesome for some of the store apps, homebrew, or as a non-essential feature to games, it'd suck if say, the next Pokemon generation required a camera for something or other.

Browzilla

@Para: @OmegaVader: Try kids under fourteen years old or those who have parents that won't let them have cell-phones.

kyte00

Figured it would just be an upgraded reggo DS. Still... SD card slot... This thing has uber homebrew potential now. Very neat.

squish123

@BlackMage66652: I just can not understand this. THEY ARE A GAME COMPANY. THEY MADE MARIO, NOT THE IPOD. GIVE ME GAMES YOU FUCKERS

vid3oman64

P.O.I.N.T.L.E.S.S

Not really, but I thought I'd say it anyway.

I'll be picking one of these up if it's the same price as the current DS Lite, I just use my little brothers DS Lite if I see a game I want on the platform, but I may just buy this.

Still not happy about the GBA slot being removed, I've got a lot of GBA games that I'd play quite often, shame, but I guess that's the way it goes.

Strife56

VGA is .3mp not 3mp right?

KSPRAYDAD

Nintendo appears to be playing catch-up here.

MP3 player: iPod/iPod Touch/iPhone
Camera: iPhone
DSi Shop: iPod Touch/iPhone's App Store

I love you Nintendo, but this time you're a bit behind the curve. Think Different.

JohnnytheFuture

At that price id go with a 360

Charlie Kelly

And........no software announcements?

No surprise there.

GrandfatherParadox

@vid3oman64:

This is a gimmick how exactly?

Because it has a camera? OH NOEZ!

How about paying attention to all the additions that are big. Like expanded internal memory, SD compatibility, DSiWare, and a web browser? You know, those things the PSP has that the old DS doesn't.

Mact

@Xenigma: Yeah that's the one flaw I found pretty notable. The extra functionality of games like Pokemon Mystery dungeon and Diamond and Pearl will be lost.

takashimiike 7

Ah Crap, I just bought a brand new Ds Lite this monday. I wonder if I should return it.

WasabiJoe

Hmm, maybe if this worked on my WPA wireless router. Then again, maybe not. My two-year-old Polar White's fine and dandy.

reximusmaximus

My Launch Week DS Phat is feeling the burn lately, almost four years in.

DSi? Yes, plz. Where can I send my cold, hard cash?

TalKeaton

So that's approx $180 US, any date on the US release?

Chewbenator

Really could use without the camera.

GranzonTotoro

@Xenigma: You think they won't have a solution for that? You underestimate them. ^_^ Besides, there's always trading.

TalKeaton

Awesome. I lost my DS recently, and was considering getting a Lite, but I haven't yet. Good thing they announced this first.

I'd get it for the larger screens (I don't really care about MP3 playback or the camera, but the downloadable games thing makes me interested. Also the fact that I'm guessing new games will try to take advantage of the SD card or the camera or something).

The only problem is that they removed the GBA slot. Then again I got my own GBA SP for that. hmm..... but the GBA SP has no headphone port :( ...

dammit >_> now I have to consider this or a lite.

I hope it's coming to north america soon.

9a3eedi

It's also surprising how the system seems to be getting apps. Nintendo is really trying to go beyond a portable games system. Excellent.

takashimiike 7

@Setzer IIDX:
A new stylus model would beat anything they announced at E3...

Strife56

For crissakes, where is my WPA support damnit?

Using WEP is like locking the front door to your house and leaving the key under the welcome door rug. Oh, and everyone who visits your house knows the key is under the rug.

Come on Nintendo. Screw the camera, where's my security damnit?

Keirnoth

@GrandfatherParadox: Probably to the SD card slot.

Jtn

@Kamakazie:

Erm... no.

The Micro was completely different.

The Micro was stupidly released as the DS was coming into being.

This is more like the Gameboy SP to the Gameboy Advance.

Mact

Wait, so if the GBA slot is gone, many games will not work with it now. I mean, Guitar Hero: On Tour is useless with it...

... it'd better be gawdamn thin to be worth the loss of the GBA.

yanipheonu

I see a report of dual touch screens ... confirmation anywone?

Also...is it 3mp or .3mp...blogs are varying on this.

KSPRAYDAD

Way to make me feel sad about my less-than-3-month old DS lite Nintendo :(

DragonSphere

Wow I may have to get this for the added features.

My predictions? This will SELL LIKE HOT CAKES and further cement Nintendo's deal with the devil.

Boo about the GBA slot is right, if only for Metroid Fusion and Zero Mission replays oh and Final Fantasy 6 Advance.

But I think it's worth the price of admission

FunKrusher

@Axass: I guess some people are just too excited to get a word in edgeways, they can't be bothered to read the entire article.

I like the larger screen, but getting rid of the GBA slot... does this mean they are looking at a new gameboy afterall?

eoaa

@GrandfatherParadox: Wow. That sucks. The portable gods are not on your side.

Floral

Hm. I like this. I never upgraded to the Lite, so this might be for me.

2NinjasTapedTogether

@vid3oman64:

Seriously, all the Wii gimmick cash-in BS has completely gone to their heads.

"People will buy almost anything with some sort of gimmick, no matter how bad?! Shit, halt all expensive game development and get cracking on any type of gimmick you can think of! Starting with Wii Music..."

BlackMage66652

@TheLastGunslinger:
But the Japanese will.

Hell, they'd by the shit that comes from Nintedo's office toilets if it came in different colours.

Strife56

This thing seems pretty pointless.

GoshaDole

@p3hrmne: @Ashton: they also need the serial code in the back intact; they wouldn't take my phatDS to trade for the lite because of this.

Magnum Opium

Huzzah for fragmenting the marketplace!

SwimOdin

@Deathimself:

Read please.

Web browser coming.

Mact

ok ~waits for ndsilite. ( what? we alrdy have news of ps4 and ps3 still has a good 8 years before it dies ut)

kilikafinal

So this combines the camera/MP3 rumor with the thinner/GBA-less rumor? That figures. The former is pretty cool (I'm shocked it's actually real), but the latter means that I won't be buying it. Sorry, but I really, really like the ability to play my GBA games, especially when stuff like Pokemon is involved.

Xenigma

MAKE IT STRONGER YOU PRATS! This is my second DS like. Have to treat the thing like a Ming vase!

dadeisvenm

i was willin wuite a while 2 upgare 2 DSL...
DSi HERE I COME

Talool1

questionss..which i'm sure will be answered later..but i'm curious.

is the camera lens on the top of the camera, behind the top screen like the picture? what's the lens looking shape near the mic?

and if it has a casual use 3 mp camera..what's the DSi's memory capacity?

snowbeach024

@GrandfatherParadox:

stop sticking them up your ass then.

jimmyNewtron

Download to what?

Is the DS getting a hard drive before the Wii?

GrandfatherParadox

No GBA slot is a huge negative compared to the "improvements". I suppose if you have a GBA SP or two and remember to take that along to play the huge library of GB and GBA games prior to the DS release then having a DS Lite that just does DS is okay, but otherwise boo.

Personally, I see no advantage to the sound additions, I pretty much always have sound turned off on my DS Lite and who needs yet another lame camera? Unless they doubled the battery life this new version just makes me want to stock up on another of the existing Lite in case mine is stolen or broken.

And yeah WEP only is still embarassing.

kasplat

[media.coveritlive.com]

A black and white one DSi

Ryūko

So..... a 3MP camera without flash? or is there a flash?

paintstevegreen

I'd like to see some more details before I dump my Tungsten, but this looks promising!

boopadoo

- Hits Japan on Nov 1st for 18900 yen…2009 release for rest of the world

KSPRAYDAD

@108: HAHAHAHHAAH. Oh 108 you're so funny... =D

JohnnytheFuture

serious comment time:

uhh.

yeah.

if it had a tilt sensor, then it'd really be something. (no sarcasm whatsoever in the preceding sentence.)

as a recent purchaser of an iPhone, i am not impressed by the DSi.

unless those screens turn out to be OLED!

(dead serious.)

108

Nintendo: We've stopped making games in favor of gimmicks.

vid3oman64

@Charlie Kelly: Cold!

Krytha

@Aflack: Likes slushies: *looks up top* I guesss I have seen it. Um, I can't see much reason to change from a Lite. Maybe if the screen really is bigger?

...

Looks so samey.

Aflack: Likes slushies

@Soyerzz: yeah i was hoping for something a bit different than what we already have..

Charlie Kelly

Definite buy.

Can I has release date plz?

cjcamilla

Not something that I'd ever need, but I can definitely see how it fits into Nintendo's bigger plan.

I'll stick with my Lite, though.

Bort

@108: @Charlie Kelly:

xD For some reason that gave me a big chuckle

dommafia

I dunno I really like the GBA connectivity on my DS(phat still don't have the Lite). And it adds to the pokemon games I like so much.

I might go for the model based on looks (haven't seen it yet) but I wonder how much it will cost? Will it be worth it? Will the Lite get a much overdue price drop?

Aflack: Likes slushies

I think I'll pick this up. My DS lite is old and I fear it is bound to breakdown one of these days.

omfg_its_dally

as long as it still works with the R4 and CyclodDS, surely Nintendo wouldn't ignore their core customers?

jimmyNewtron

I have been through *three* DSes....one had a dead pixel from the day I bought it, the replacement I bought last month came with a broken touch screen and I had to take it back. The third finally seems to be working properly.

And now there's MORE tech to go wrong with it?

Thanks to the now non-existent Nintendo Seal of quality, it'll be a cold fucking day in hell before I buy any more Nintendo tech.

Things are worse than the fucking 360s.

GrandfatherParadox

"The system will include the DS browser software and access to the online Nintendo DS Shop, where you will be able to wirelessly download Nintendo DSWare. Software will be separated into four categories: Free, 200 Points, 500 Points and Premium (800 Points). If you connect even once to the Shop by March 2010, Nintendo will give you 1,000 free Points as a present."

From IGN.

Jtn

Why does everything need "i" now. Couldn't it of been "+" or "Fancy Pants"?

protoman

This makes me mad... I never bought the Lite, as that also made me mad. But, Kingdom Hearts is BY FAR my favorite game series of all time. And, Kingdom Hearts: 358/2 Days is coming to the DS. This thing has superior lighting, sound, and screen size when compared to mine.... If it improves the experience of Kingdom Hearts: 358/2 Days, I guess I'll have to bitterly set my principles aside.

GameStop BETTER give me a LOT of money for my DS as an investment towards the DSi.

Plus, this would mean that I can't get rid of my GameBoy Advance SP without losing Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories for the GBA. It is getting a PS2 remake, but it is still my current favorite portable game. Although, the new portable Kingdom Hearts games will surpass it.

Ansem

4Gb onboard memory, downloadable GBA and "DS-Ware" (like WiiWare, I assume), INCLUDED BROWSER!?!?!

All the reasons why I didn't buy a DS right away all answered. Completely AWESOME.

Benjammn

A welcome replacement for my DsLite. Now all that remains is to see what games will take advantage of the new hardware.

takashimiike 7

I'll be keeping my slim thank you, but a bigger screen is inciting.

goldwings

i never got a ds lite, just the regular one. depending on the price and look of the system (and if they have a good pink color...can't believe they stopped making the good coral pink in favor of that metallic crap bleh) then i will probably get my hands on one.

p3hrmne

Interesting. Very interesting.

Will be watching with interest.

TalKeaton

This article fails to mention the SD card slot.

Jtn

@Deathimself: They just said it will come with an integrated web broser!

Axass

Nuckin' futz!

Knoxximus (XBL/PSN)

This is the same last-ditch effort to sell more systems that Nintendo did last generation with the Gameboy Micro.

Kamakazie

FINALLY, A POCKET-SIZED HAND-HELD ELECTRONIC DEVICE THAT CAN TAKE PHOTOGRAPHS!!

108

@Ashton: nah gamestop just needs the system, stylus, and a working ac adapter, doesn't matter if it's the original or not.

p3hrmne

300,000 is 0.3mp, not 3mp. That's Wireds fault

Vyse24

Yawn.

I know the DS is huge, but this really doesn't seem to add anything to it, at least with what little information we have.

Will the camera work with games or is it there just for a few pictures? What are these audio enhancements? Better audio processor? Better speakers/output? What?

So, like I said, yawn [for now].

MIKEAWESOME

... I am not trading my Crimson Red/Black DS for gimped colours ... Also taking abou tthe GBA slot means there will be no Guitar Hero DS anymore?

Para

who doesnt already have an mp3 player and a camera-equipped cell phone? I think i'll stick with my DS Lite and its awesome GBA slot.

OmegaVader

Cool!

Nightshade Zero

@Skinney: What he said. Does gamestop usually need a box and crap? I don't have the original AC adapter to mine.

Ashton

It just doesn't look right

Soyerzz

what about the alleged "improved wireless features," and maybe a fucking WEB BROWSER?!

if it has got that, then i'll def snag one

Deathimself

Looks pretty nice. Wonder what the price will be for one of these.

alf717

Hrm.

Better than anything they announced at E3 at least.

Setzer IIDX

I don't think I will be trading in my classic Polar White DS Lite w/ GBA slot any time soon!

djfp

So when's the big announcement or surprise?

aww this is it??

jimmyNewtron

*shrugs*

zonizukaz

Eh, I don't really see the need to upgrade from DS Lite to it.

TheLastGunslinger

And it will only cost you $350 if you want to import one off PlayAsia this fall :)

Nightshift Nurse: Mile High Colonic

Question is, did they improve the wireless connectivity and will they use it in conjunction with the Wii? A DSi that doubles as a controller with a touch interface could make games incredible. A strategy game with that would be crazy, or a sports game. Draw up your own plays on the fly and so on...

But yet, nifty. Wonder how you can export those photos.

Slaughtertron9000

pass have two lites now that only get played by the gf unit...and i have a feeling ill be shipping her off soon

Charlie Kelly

@Skinney:

I'd have to see what it looks like first to trade in for it.

Masx

The only thing that sucks about this is that some DS games used the GBA slot for extra stuff. But I suppose it's the price you have to pay to have a 3 MP camera in it.

BlackMage66652

How... surprising.

Mune

Gamestop better let me trade in my DSlite for $70 towards this thing.

Skinney

Will old DS games be stretched to fit the new screen?
Have they fixed the spongy D-Pad?
Why would anyone want a 0.3MP camera?
Built in browser that connects to Nintendo WiFi, my own Internet or 3G?

It just all seems a bit pointless to me.

Ryumeka

I'm all for new features, but unless you can impliment pictures you've taken into the game somehow like putting your face on a character, which I doubt, then what's the point?

I mean a camera is good but you want to play games and enhance your gaming experience, they may as well have built in a whisk as well.

Ravel

Are you kidding?? Who the hell would want to view a .3 MP photo on anything larger than the DS screens?

This seems so unnesessary. I mean, sure larger screens ARE good - but taking away the GBA slot seems like N is shooting themselves in the foot.

I guess the idea here is their plans for the future. Being able to DL games to SD cards off the iDS store seems like a good idea. Could take off, fuck - who am I kidding, this thing is going to give rise to a new super dollar that only Nintendo can make.

Super_Koopa

just hang out for the inevitable DSi 2.5, or DSi Miami

marcus_ivo

Pretty neat except for the lack of the GBA slot. In fact that might sway me away from picking this up. I had my DS lite stolen recently and have been looking around for a new hand held. I decided to wait until I hear about the new DS and this is actually a bummer. Its neat they have a camera and SD slot and everything but, when it all comes down to it, its main focus should be GAMES.

I know this a DS handheld and not a GBA but what about those games that mixed both? Like the pokemon series that required you have some GBA games to obtain certain Pokeymans? Asides from that, it was nice that the DS stayed (a bit) backwards compatible.

However, the improved mic does keep me interested. That was certainly a bothersome problem with the current DS. The dreaded "BLUE" in Brain Age anyone?

Damn, now it comes to DSi, DS Lite, or a PSP! All with their respected redeeming qualities. How can I choose!

IcerDragoon

damn. its featurific.

Neo-Senku: The World's Finest Pervert

what ! 3 megapixels ? is that all ? sheesh no way

the only thing i really need from there is the smaller size and bigger screens

my handphone has a 2gig microds card with plenty of songs and a 3.2 megapixel camera with the same photo dimensions and bigger

sheesh, that would be like a downgrade for me
and i have to pay for it too.

Mr.Sad

@Naaloq: Well...since Nintendo OWNS Pokemon they won't BE going anywhere for Pokemon fans to follow.

KSPRAYDAD

Wow, that camera is really, really lame...
A 3mp camera would have just done it, but 0,3? thats just silly...
And I wonder how 640x480 will look on a big ass tv when used with the wii...
What I do like is the sd card slot i just hope it allows music, pictures and video, it might be the one to update my old ds (2005 european release model) but then they would need to release an awesome new game with it.

DutchOtaku

It's telling of Nintendo's direction these days that everyone heard "A big announcement is coming" and rightfully deducted that it's a hardware revision rather than a game potentially worth writing home about.

(Don't get me wrong. I play my DS more than any other system I own. I'm just not playing many Nintendo games these days).

futurebiblehero

@WendelScardua:

Holy hell, that's even worse than I thought. GG Nintendo.

BlackMage66652

I hate nearly everything Nintendo did this gen, everything is too casual. The DS is keeping me interested, but I don't need an slight upgrade of a current model so i can bleed more money. I'll take my 200 bucks and put it toward the next gen system to come out.

Smashking0