@macr0planet: Report them ?

It's not a crime or illegal to use third-party controllers with added functions like turbo.

theEnemy

@crapintiger: Why am I not surprised to find a comment like this under a Gears post?

Đipic

this would be great if the lancer was worth piss in multiplayer. now if there was a way to duel while diving like an idiot with a shotgun, that might actually add something.

meanwhile, everyone's killing the two hard-ons standing still in the middle of a battle.

mister_shh

@Ed_209: That would either take too long (the whole chainsawing event is like 2 seconds) or would be too fast to be competitive.

To be honest chainsaw vs chainsaw events are kinda rare. Most chainsaw attacks are from behind or on unsuspecting opponents and they are still insta-kill. I like how they've removed the utter randomness of the duel.

NecronomiconUK

Great, now even the manuals are boring shades of brown, gray, and yellow.

Revenge_of_Nekojin

@macr0planet: you can't report anybody for that.

SAKY

COD4 will have to stay in its case for awhile once this comes out.

Nexus6

@eakolb: You never knew who was going to get killed when you ran up to each other with a chainsaw in the first game. Having to rapidly press "B" doesn't sound like much of a fix either, I would rather it be a guessing game like in the first one.

What they should have done is made it a battle using analog sticks, like balancing against each other etc.

Ed_209

@WhiskeyJak: Yeh, it would be much better if a chess board appeared, that would be fair.

Arcadewolf

Not looking not because i am afraid of spoliers but because it will be one less thing i can read on the toilet when it comes out i loving reading manuals on the bowl

ddollar

Personally I was hoping for a few more new weapons than that ... all the new ones are big one-offs that you're probably not even going to bother carrying because it would mean losing another, probably more generally useful, weapon.

sanzen

Can't get here fast enough.

Captain Impulse

@Shiryu: Me too, right next to 'driving blindfolded' and 'jellyfish'.

jBusiness

@eakolb: We've known about the button mashing for duels for a looong time. The devs have said they just wanted something simple and quick that wasn't yet another bloody quick time event.

NecronomiconUK

@Walker: I meant to write guy* not gun. Whoops! Wish there was an edit button for that.

Walker

@crapintiger: How the heck do you report posts these days?

NecronomiconUK

@eakolb:

Still far better than running at a gun with a chainsaw, only to be chainsawed by him because it could be so random. Thats the main part here. Its less than a 2 second button mash and cuts down on it being so random, like the first one was.

Walker

@eakolb: You were really expecting something else for the gameplay mechanic? I thought it was pretty obvious that this what it was going to be.

Personally, I don't think it is that bad. It is not as much the mechanic itself as how it will impact the pace of the game that interest me.

WhiskeyJak

Multiplayer modes sound great. Guardian and Wingman especially.

Refused

@undefined: your a n00b if you are not totally psyched about gears 2 go play duck hunt fag

crapintiger

@Ansem: STOP THE INTERNET!!!! This guy is not intrested in something!!!!! We must let the world know!!!!!!!!

SSJ4_Macd

Avoiding dismemberment is always really high on my top list of "things to avoid". Guess all those years playing Star Soldier with no autfire are gonna finnaly payoff!

Shiryu

So the much-touted chainsaw duels boil down to a button mashing contest. That's more than a little disappointing.

eakolb

Nice multiplayer modes there.

Ryumeka

@Northern Cat: yeah no kidding. I'm sure you can see if someone is using one of those. Then report them.

macr0planet

I'm not at all interested in this game....

Also, controllers with turbo functions will completely ruin chainsaw duels. I'm just warning you guys.

Ansem

@Northern Cat: Will cheap controller have the same response/feel for actual strafing or shooting?

Cagny

Hey sweet find. I better get my thumb working fast enough, I don't want to be dismembered

macr0planet

Chainsaw duels...

I hope they kept in mind cheap controllers with a turbo function, you know, for online multiplayer? Ugh.

Northern Cat

@NecronomiconUK: good to know, now i will continue to suck at gears for my undying (or dying alot) commitment to the lancer

SSJ4_Macd

So looking forward to Horde, looks very, VERY fun to play with some friends/relatives.

Ska-Chan

what kind of duel is that exactly? And why are almost every game "duel" the same thing? press b fast, or a etc.
would have been funnier if the duel thing was bitchslaping the other one, or something. many games seem too serious nowadays. quirkier games can be more fun.

basseman

@sanzen: why fix it if it ain't broke

belo

@Northern Cat: turbo pad detection have existed for ages; let's hope they were smart enough to put it in.

muu

@SSJ4_Macd: Yes you can, players are no longer in god mode when chainsawing. If you go to chainsaw somone, start the attack and are sniped in the face mid chainsaw the person you are attacking will still die but your head will go pop also. During a duel I assume the same logic applies.

NecronomiconUK

@NecronomiconUK: I think you're missing my point.

Đipic

@mister_shh: Yeah was wondering that i know the duels only last a couple sec's but can you snipe someone in the middle of a duel?

SSJ4_Macd

@Đipic: You've seen his other posts right, before making silly generalisations?

NecronomiconUK

@Đipic: I assume the point was 'oh a retarded comment on a thread about a retarded game played by Xbox Live morons, what a suprise' which is silly

NecronomiconUK

@SSJ4_Macd: trust me, the lancer is so much more useful in Gears 2 due to the stopping power effect. And also the shotgun/roll crap has been considerably nullified. Although even in gears 1 multiplayer if two or more of you concentrate lancer fire on single enemies you can easily chew them up.

NecronomiconUK

So excited for this to come out on PC as well - I just bought a new video card, so the graphics should be stellar!!

Oh ... wait...

antialias02

@crapintiger: Right, because everyone in the world should be excited for Gears 2. Not that I'm not, but really. Not everyone enjoys shooters. I know a big reason I don't is the population. A bunch of people that sound like you.

skullpanda

@Đipic: I'm feeling ya, brotha.

skullpanda

@sanzen: The balance of picking up weapons based on their pros/cons is as it should be in games like this. Even "Ministy Of Silly Weapons" FPS Resistance 2 is implementing it.

knownspace

Hope theres no more very annoying glitches in this. Plus no host! Bots! Horde! Wow stick me to a can of tuna cause I'm sold. Seriously I can't wait.

SynchronizedBlink

@NecronomiconUK: I never said or insinuated that the game was retarded or that all the people who play it are. But yes, you're right, obnoxious, homophobic children are out of the norm on xbox live and the fanbase of this type of game, right? I fail to see what's silly about it when it's quite accurate.

Đipic

@Đipic: obnoxious, homophobic children are the norm online and particularly in gaming. I wouldn't say it was specific to Xbox Live, I'm sure it's just as bad on PSN or Wii online, but because voice is so rare on those platforms you barely hear them.

I'm in my late 20s and the group i usually game with online are all around the same age, we're not homophobic and are massive Gears fans. I just feel making sweeping generalisations is silly and just antagonistic flame bait.

NecronomiconUK

I´ll still be the worst player ever online but I´ll have a lot of fun anyway!!

lucasreis

@ddollar: lol, I do that too.

NexusSIX

I think the best solution for this, is a quick Rock. Paper Scissor decision. Duel Chainsaw, press a selection of 3 buttons within a second, winner of the rock paper scissors, wins the duel. If your opponent doesn't select within the time frame, you by default are the winner of the duel. This will keep the action going fast paced. Button mashing leaves cheaters open to buying turbo buttons, which is cheating but can never be regulated.

NexusSIX

Can't wait for Cliff B. to start touting his Chainsaw Dueling as "groundbreaking"

Razgriz1

@Đipic: I think i'll have to agree to disagree. Personally I feel that the perceived general poor behaviour of Xbox Live gamers is a product of voice chat being so prevalent. Headsets are in every Pro and and above package so therefore almost everyone has a voice. Fact is people are assholes in general as as soon as they are given a means to share their stupidity then often they can drown out what's good in a community. I generally only play with my mates who most of them I know in real life and are decent people and Xbox Live is just fantastic for facilitating our gaming needs.

Aaaaaanyway, Gears 2 looks brilliant and along with LittleBigPlanet I can see myself spending far too much time in front of the HDTV for the rest of the year, woo!

NecronomiconUK

@NecronomiconUK: I'd prefer that you stop putting words in my mouth. I never said those kinds of people are specific to Live but the fact is they are most abundant there than any other online gaming service out there. I haven't played much online with my PS3 as I only picked one up recently. However, I play a lot of games online (shooters, no less) on my PC and I will tell you that the community in general is leaps and bounds more mature than what you see on Live. Of course you run into the occasional asshat but no where near as often on Live where, instead of being the exception it's the rule.

Again, I never intended to insinuate or make generalizations that everyone who plays on Live is an obnoxious homophobe. That was presumptuous on your part. The fact is, however, that you are much more likely to encounter those kinds of people there than on any other platform.

Đipic

@Northern Cat: My thoughts exactly.

Zombie_Crunch

@NexusSIX:

I too wish it wasn't tap B repeatedly. I'd also much rather it be a game of controller Rock Paper Scissors, best of 5.

A beats B

B beats X

X beats A

Y == Random

You're 100% right, speed tapping is too boring, and open for exploit.

Buddy_DoQ

@Ansem:

eh im not that excited for it. i played the first one a couple months ago co-op in a couple hours.

is it a quality game? sure. did i enjoy it? not really that much at all. maybe not a big fan of the hxcbuff characters and twitchy aiming. (just not used to it i guess)

in all honesty, i'm just trying to start drama, because... you know, kotaku doesn't have enough of that already. <3

yourcitylovesyou

@Arcadewolf: Ah, you made me laugh at work, an exceedingly difficult achievement. Congratulations.

moutski

*sigh* If I want button mashing hand to hand combat I will play Smash Bros.

GPman

@GPman: Ha-ha-ha. Good one. Ever actually tried button-mashing in SB? Yeah, totally useless.

Obvious troll is being obvious.

FlameEye

Meh thats stupid in my opinion, Button mashing isn't a skill, its a natural ability.

It should be timed presses, at least thats achievable by anyone.

flukielukie

The thing that worries me about those button mashing duels is people with turbo switch joypads. They are going to win every single time.

Unless the game has some way of disabling them (which I doubt) it's going to cause a bit of a ruck among players.

Dajmin

@lunarcore: QFT

belo

This doesn't happen often enough to make turbo fire a decent exploit. Generally turbo is only decent when you can leave it running, or have time to switch it on/off as needed. This situation is rare, happens fast and the A is used for a variety of other tasks.

lunarcore

It's missing the plot pages you say? Is it really missing anything at all then?

Chupakun

@muu: I lost a lot of my life to MGS 1's turbo detection...

BlueGeek

I hope chainsaw battles are on the X button because it is the easiest to mash my finger always slips off of the B button when you have to mash it.

Assassin_Kensei

@lunarcore:
I disagree. In Gears, B is only really used for the chainsaw thing so it'd be perfectly reasonable to assume you could switch turbo-B on all the time and just leave it until you duel.

I guess the tapping might screw you over when trying to START the duel, right enough, but I don't know.

Dajmin

So what this really says is BUY A TURBO BUTTON controller or prepare to be served online on a daily basis. What crap! In Castle Crashers you need a damn turbo controller to get the button mashing online achievement. SO not fun at all.

Senen