Someone hasn't seen the recent NPD sales nor the October PC releases.

K.O.D

@Rob_Velocity: If he knew so much about the gaming market then why did he back up the xboxes instead of the PS2 last gen and the Wii this gen? The guy is an idiot all the games he has made with Lionhead Studios are just average and he calls them the best thing ever made. Dungeon Keeper and Theme Park are excellent even today. Black and White is not

Quaro

People get all riled up when they read comments like this, but there have been so many coming from people deeply involved in the industry that it's hard not to give it credence. Peter Molyneux knows more about the gaming market that pretty much anyone here and I believe he's right in what he says.

Rob_Velocity

@Marlor: Man, don't throw reality so hard on him. Can't you see Molyneux lost touch with the world by the time he started PRing his own (ideal) games?

EloraHRanma

Well it is kind of true, since everyone is going overboard on downloading games. However companies that handle DRM right (Valve and Blizzard might have a good plan for D3 and SC2)have a good stay with PC gaming. Oh but I'll need to silence myself and watch from the sidelines to see how Fallout 3 will do for PC sales.

Kaizuden

Valve seems to be doing OK.

Stardock is thriving.

Telltale games don't seem to be struggling.

SimBin is doing fine.

Obsidian haven't done too badly.

And those are just the companies that have been primarily PC-focused of late.

There are plenty of other companies doing well too, with less "hardcore" games. Adventure Interactive, Her Interactive, and all the Flash-game makers for example.

Marlor

Wow. Horrible picture. I saw that and thought "Oh great. Another psycho murderer 'created' by games."

Imagine my surprise when I read the headline o_o'

psycoking

my eyes, they burn

meltyman

Peter is the man.

MalibuHur

Sometimes it feels as if PM is the only developer offering up his opinions on kotaku.

Ahmunnaeetchoo

OK, it's official: I have now had enough of hearing Peter Molyneux's opinion on everything, and I am sick of seeing his Mr. Burns head.

duckmouth

Two things. He forgot about Valve, and more "OMG PC gaming is so dead." So why are there twelve games I'm looking forward to coming out or already out on the platform?

Farcry 2
Left 4 Dead
Starcraft 2
Red Alert 3
Dawn of War 2
APB
Diablo 3
The Whispered World
Champions Online
Dark Horizon
Sacred 2
Jumpgate: Evolution

Just because WoW, and the Sims dominate the sales charts doesn't mean there's nothing else out there.

Gouki4u

I'd agree with JonthanStrange comments, parts of PC gaming are dying but other parts are not so you can write off the platform as a whole.

David Braben basically said the same thing as Molyneux though in a more diplomatic way that the mainstream devs are leaving and the market is diverging in different directions.
[www.rockpapershotgun.com]

The market is changing and those still into PC gaming are no longer buying certain titles with only major franchises still having any pull, but also seem to suck the life out of everything else at the same time.

Personally I'd like PC gaming to stop being a tech fest, the graphics nerd scene (as a former member) is rife with piracy and constantly upping the ante has only brought PC gaming to its knees. If the multi-platform games stopped (PC/360/PS3) and just left the PC to its own devices I think it would find its feet again without having to compete against the consoles & also showcase what smaller unique games it has to offer.

Jellocakes

The PC is not in a powerful position, but it has a lot of franchises that I like (especially of the RPG and adventure bent) and most other things that I'm interested in will usually get ported to it. I guess that the platform pretty much suits me.

If the market does die, I suppose that I will be the last person to turn off the lights and shut the door.

mcderek3000

Man that is a terrible picture. Throw a wig on him and he would look like a really cheap french prostitute.

VishusBurn

In 5 to 10 years noone is using any consoles any more, so I don't get this pathetic "PC is dead" stuff at all.

Creasy

"You mean it's in tatters if you're not EA or Blizzard, Peter." or Valve

BadByte

In tatters? No. But the focus in PC gaming has gradually been changing from the way it once was to something different. Big budget mass market games suddenly arn't doing that well while relatively small niche projects like Sins of a Solar Empire or Sam & Max thrive.

Massive piracy in the FPS market have steered many primarily fps developers shift from PC to consoles, while RTS gradually become more and more dominant with huge names like Starcraft 2, Dawn of War 2, Empire: Total War and Demigod coming to the forefront in the near future. European rpgs and shooter/rpg hybrid are becoming more prominent in the industry when only a few years ago the thought of STALKER or The Witcher being such a huge global success was laughable.

Game sales from online sources continue to grow while PC retail sales drop. Indie developers are quickly being thrust into the spotlight with projects like Mount & Blade or Audiosurf. Mods are once again becoming prominent after a bit of a slump and new imaginative projects are in the works everywhere. The MMO market continue to grow and thrive with new ideas being thrown out now that it's been made clear it's going to take something creative to topple the WOW juggernaut.

PC gaming isn't dying, no, but it's changing. Whether for the better or not we'll have to wait and find out, but I see a glorious future for the PC and I'm happy to be a part of it!

It's a pity many older PC developers like Molyneux don't seem to be on-board as well.

JonathanStrange

Again, he's spouting rubbish. The end of this year is seeing an incredible amount of software being released for the PC, possibly more than the consoles (not combined). After the bout of new console frenzy from last year, developers are coming back to the PC and starting to release games that are designed for the PC and not just some second hand, shoddy console port. Just look at what has been and is being released in the next few months and you'll see that there is a lot of good stuff coming out and some PC only titles.

PC gaming has evolved a lot since Peter had his hits on the PC (syndicate, dungeon keeper etc etc). He isn't looking at the wider picture but looking at, what most developers are now, how much cash can we get in the shortest amount of time, which is, essentially (to me anyway), how the console game developers and publishers look at.

No, PC gaming isn't in 'tatters' its in a strong position, possibly a lot stronger than it was last year and the year before. I'm sure I read somewhere that PC gaming along brought in over $10bn out of a $45bn gaming revenue last year, not sure though so I could be completely wrong on that and dreamt it up one night.

Kalain

I'd have to agree with him. There are some really great purchases on PC, one of my favourites being both the Stalker games. But when I think about it, I've only bought 2-3 PC games this year, compared to the odd 9-10 XBOX 360.

Ryumeka

PC Gaming in tatters? Don't think so: [adrianwerner.wordpress.com]

If I manage to post that link at least once each week then perhaps console merchant mouthpieces like Peter Molyneux will finally realise that we're on to their shit.

godot

@Quaro: Yeah, what an idiot. Making games for the company that bought his company rather than for the Wii...

markusdragon

All consoles combined: 18 billion.
PC platform alone: 10.7 billion.
[kotaku.com]

liquidnumb

In tatters unless you're Valve, EA, Stardock, Telltale (which ironically wouldn't thrive in a console environment), Obsidian, Guys-that-made-Bioshock (half their sales), Blizzard...

Evdor

@undefined:

Well if you look at the amount of shelf space PC games get now compared to 5 years ago. I think there is a good indicationthey are in trouble.

in the last 5 - 10 years you have seen a decline in PC game (sole) developers and an explosions of console developers. I see no trend or indication that would support there being no consoles in the next 5 years onwards.

Dappa

@Gouki4u: You forgot to ad Alan Wake, whenever that comes out...... If ever.

Xuchilbara

Shut up Peter. You fail to see all the free games out there and digital distribution. Noob!

Unstop

The PC has lost market share but it will never die as a gaming platform because 10-20 years from now you will still have a PC in most of the households. Thats a shitload of million units where game devs can make money. If some big names will focus on consoles other (new) companys will come and fill the gaps.

What i can see tho is that the times of hardware obsession for PC gaming will come to an end. Crysis showed that this concept doesn't work anymore. You will see more games that run rather well on old and new hardware.

Gambrinus

PC Gaming will never die as long as console manufacturers tightly control what's released on their consoles. As long as you need to chip a console to play freeware games on them, there will still be tons of fantastic little games developed for computers. But the focus has been shifting, and shifting strongly this current console generation. Most high budget titles are multiplatform, if not console exclusive, and more and more PC developers are following this trend.

BUT

There's little room for hobby projects, indie developers and bold daring developers trying to beat themselves into the market on the consoles. There's just more freedom for this on the computers, where you can publish the game yourself and because of this, it is likely that you will find more innovation on that side than on the consoles.

Remember people, big budget doesn't automatically mean better games.

*pops out to play a few rounds of MAFFia on his Mac*

The Whaleman

@VishusBurn: that's have to be one hell of a dirt cheap prostitute. I think that's a market that'd be in tatters.

Disgruntled Aussie Gamer

@duckmouth: Agreed, I dident mind them at first but.. well maybe if he tried to do something about the shit hes spewing it wouldn't be "In Tatters". You know like uh release Fable II on PC, and then market it.

DaFox

I think the drop or lull in PC gaming stems from having an older gaming audience. Consoles are easier to get into so more PC gamers will likely be older and so have played a lot more. They are less likely to be as enthused with games that are just rehashes of what has been done over and over and so it has led to a drop in PC gaming.

Fozziedave

I know this game! Come on, everybody! Let's play!

Molyneux Says...

...there will be a one console future and we will all need regular firmware updates directly downloaded into our spines.

WittyUserName

In time as consoles evolve. They'll become so much like PC's. (Large HDD, Updates, Patches, Add-ons, online.) That PC gaming will be pointless. I'll be playing WOW on the next Xbox.

Orionsaint

So....... I take it everything this man's mouth spews(sp?) out is considered news?
Oh well...

Alex_Mexico

Warcraft killed PC gaming.

Tyrannical

@duckmouth: Ditto. This guy is all promise and ZERO delivery. He has no right to criticise. What was that about 3 of the top selling games last month being on PC? The market is there, if developers will come out with something worth buying.

SLDeviant

@Grimspoon: Make that S.T.A.L.K.E.R.

Grimspoon

I've just played through Crysis Warhead, got the international version of Witcher EE and last night picked up my copy of STAKER: Clear Sky. On the short term I have Far Cry 2 and a niche game by a little company called Bethesda, which later this month might be sort of a big deal.

Tatters indeed. Woe is me, for I have nothing to play. Le cry.

Grimspoon

@Jellocakes:Sorry, small unique games aren't wanted. Cause no one bought portal you know?

And why is Molyneux complaining about pc gaming being fail? I'm still waiting for my fable 2 pc game....oh that's right..they're not releasing it right away because they want to try to force me to buy an xbox.

Ajh

@Grimspoon: I lol`d.
That could have been me talking there.I might actually find time in the new year to dust off my ps3 and 360.Then again...
Last game of his i half enjoyed was magic carpet.
Quit your yapping pete and go make a decent game ffs.A new syndicate would be nice,for the pc of course!

UFO

@Marlor: psssh no one wants reality.

Ajh

It means it's in tatters if you don't make a game live up to its promises and piss off legions of internet followers.

*cough* Fable II *cough, cough* Black and White 2 *cough, hack* Original Fable.

Urgh.

Ehem.

Sorry.

Bad cold.

Polterg3ist

@godot: Marketing. I pay attention to pc gaming and I haven't heard of half of these games. Though several look very interesting.

Ajh

@Ryumeka:

I've bought eight PC games this year, and only two 360 games (true story).

Anecdotes are fun.

Marlor

Another pathetic attempt to get PC gamers to buy consoles, so they won't have to release an additional version, or miss the money by not doing it.

Sorry, as long as there's developers like ID doing PC gaming, hardcore gamers won't be giving it up, so the ball is all in your court.

Cavefish

Considering he makes games exclusively for the 360 under the microsoft brand, I think I'll take his comment with a rather large chunk of rock salt and maybe some brandy.

zehoo

Hey how about releasing more that shooters and stop trying to hack my computer with your products.

Crowbot

Just a case of another developer who can't understand why certain gamers aren't interested in his stuff.

The PC Market is NOT the console market, you don't succeed by putting console games on PC, you do something different.

Consoles cannot do the games that are successful on PC, and vice versa.

This is why I have a PC for most of the games a like, and a 360 just for the one genre I can't get on PC.

arstal

@Mearns: Oh snap!

Gouki4u

I was planning on building myself a new computer when Intel's Nehalem processors came out.
But then I realized that I would have no games to play with my powerful new computer so I saved myself a bunch of money and bought an EEE PC.
It's perfect for web browsing and movie piracy.
I'll build a new gaming PC when we hit another PC gaming spike like back when HL2 came out.

VBerg

The left side of his face is in tatters.

Mearns

@PapaBear434:

YOUR number. Not "you're" number. "You are number will be up next..." is a silly, silly thing to say.

/my kingdom for an edit button...

PapaBear434

What these console folks don't seem to understand is that after the PC market really IS dead for good, these pirates are going to turn their guns at them. PC games are the easiest, because the same platform used to download and crack the games are also the home platform. But we all know you can copy console games too, and once as their "crimes of opportunity" are gone for good, they'll come for the 360 and PS3. I don't say Wii, because it's already been heavily cracked where the other two have only moderately been attacked.

Don't anyone forget the lessons of the Dreamcast. They came out and told the community that their games were "uncopiable." Turns out, pirates take that kind of thing as a challenge. I have a friend that has two copies of every DC game ever made, both the English version and the Japanese version, and only three of them are store bought.

YOU DON'T CHALLENGE THE COMMUNITY. You don't make fun of them, marginalize them, or give them any reason to hate you (DRM.) Because while you may think your platform, game, and protection systems are too powerful to be cracked, what you have to remember is that you have, at most, a hundred programmers on staff to deal with protecting against piracy. Meanwhile, the community has millions with nothing better to do than to prove you completely wrong and ruin your day. They will bang relentlessly at your digital gate like a virtual zombie horde until the doors fly open like they were never there to begin with.

Trust me, Peter Molyneux, you don't want PC gaming to die. You want it to stick around. Because as long as there are good games on that platform for the assholes to crack, download, and steal much easier, you will be relatively safe behind your console coverage. But the minute they don't have that as an option anymore, you had better believe you're number will be up next.

PapaBear434

*ahem*

Valve? Steam?

This guy is an idiot.

Spidery_Yoda

If you don't like it Peter, then bugger off. If you think that Blizzard and Crysis are the only PC games that sell, then you clearly have never touched a gaming PC in your life and it makes me wonder what you've really been up to all these years.

I'm astounded that you've never heard of Valve.. you know...the Half Life, Counter Strike and Team Fortress guys? Nope? What about Call of Duty 4? No? OK. Bethesda? Really? I'm shocked! Surely NCSoft...Mythic Entertainment? Relic?

You're a joker Mr Molyneuzpxskiolyeux.

Mancomb Seepgood

And yet you guys critcize this man, when I bet you cannot deliver a better product then he does.
Molyneux may not create the best RPG's in the damn industry. But they are far from terrible. He knows innovation, unlike most uncreative developers.

As a PC gamer from heart, I'm slightly in agreement. Its a shame really, PC gamer userbase is huge and has far more potential. Any user of a PC system can be converted into a PC gamer. But then you have hardware problems not meeting requirements.

Even Microsoft themselves seem like they don't give a damn about the PC anymore. All their MS Game Studios work on the 360 exclusively. I think the reason MS anounced the Xbox was because they saw the Playstation as a threat to their platform, their bread and butter.

Paincake

When is MTV going to make a Molyneux vs Jaffe celebrity deathmatch?

pikpikjuice

I do agree that PC isn't as popular as it was five years ago. But i think it'll hit again, especially if the consoles start shorting they're lifetime cycle before the "next-gen" comes.

The PS1 and PS2 were a long-term investment. If Microsoft releases a new xbox soon and forces, Sony and nintendo to follow them, i think PC gaming will be a hit, once again.

But i like them both. PC because they're advanced and i use them for more than gaming.

Consoles because a controller is more comfortable for SOME games (Sport games especially.)

vhn

long live PC gaming!

will52

@godot: So what's your point? That lots of games no one's heard of exist?

dowingba

@Dappa: The fact that consoles are becoming more and more like PCs maybe? Hard drives, USB controllers, web browsing, game installations etc. How long before a console offers an all in one complete home computer package? Designed around entertainment, but more than capable of doing everything you want your PC to do such as word processing and email.

Its a market that Apple stupidly refuses to exploit because it would mean pricing their machines competitively. Clearly defined hardware in a home computer is the direction PC gaming needs to go, and its the direction that consoles are going.

[www.joystiq.com]

Mancomb Seepgood

@Ajh: You're doing better than me if you've heard of even half, given that the list is around 300 titles long - and that's just for 2008. The better known games are found nearer the bottom of the list in the multiplatform sections.

godot

Hmmmmmm..... Halflife? I think what he's trying to get is that only the truely stellar games on the PC survive.

Cr1msonk1ng

*sigh* Another developer jumping on the "PC gaming is dead!" bandwagon. I remember similar comments being made as early as 5 years ago, and a few years before that.

There are some big developers that are shifting their focus from PC to console true but in their wake new developers are given a chance to shine. Also, as others have mentioned, the PC market is changing from what it use to be. MMOs, RPG/shooter hybrids, more advance RTS games, etc. This is fine as some genres work better on consoles while others work better on PCs.

While the PC doesn't have as many exclusives as they use to you still see many games getting PC ports. If it's "dying" then why are developers still making games for them? I think part of the reason is that while console releases make a lot of initial sales, the PC does better with long-term sales. When a new title comes out on a console a lot of people go out and buy it the first week creating massive revenute. However after that first week or two sales usually fall dramatically. The people that wanted to buy the game already own it and those that wanted to wait usually wait for the game to hit the bargain bin or go to GameStop and buy a used copy. With a PC you've got an audience where they can't buy trade-ins and where some may have to upgrade their rige before being able to play the game. As a result you have a demographic that usually buys lots of copies over an expanded amount of time instead of within the first week or two.

From this I can understand why some developers are more console-focused. Getting those intial sales is pretty important when games cost so much as you need to first make enough money to get out of the red and then use profits to pump back into your company to make the next title. At the same time though the PC market gives you boosts in revenue in smaller chunks over more time.

Oh, yeah, and let's not forget Steam. The service is excellent with great deals that pop-up all the time since devs don't have to worry about manufacturing/production/shipping of discs and boxes. You can buy Company of Heroes and the expansion for 30 bucks right now.

CoyoteGamer

Isn't World of Warcraft what Blizzard is doing?

Spiderbait

@Orionsaint: If MS or sony ever completely opens up their platform and allows for modification of games files, free user and official content , no developer or licensing fees and hardware upgrades; I will shit bricks!

Besides, consoles becoming PC's is a de-evolution! Specifically patches, which on the surface don't seem so bad but what it does is give publishers the freedom to release a game before it's done with the 'we will patch it later' philosophy. (see GTA4, ps3).

There are cons and pros to PC gaming, but most of the pros will never make it into the console world because it's simply bad for business. Consoles becoming more like PC' doesn't make PC gaming pointless, it makes consoles pointless.

220

That's pretty short-sighted. I don't game much on my PC either, but there's still a large amount of games out there.

Wolfers

"In tatters" With WAR out already, Far Cry 2 and Fallout 3 imminent and loads of interesting games in the 2009 line up.

Yes Peter. Bit bitter Black and White was shit I take it?

Lemming

Monthly sales chartz do not include all the sales on Steam and digital download (EA store). I wonder how much money Valve is raking in?

paydirt76

As long as I can play Fable II on my PC next year.. he can say whatever he wants..

CockroachMan

@fraudbrand: Well.. if you look at the console sales charts it's pretty much Wiifit and Wiiplay.. think about it..

CockroachMan

Mmm... I love me some 'taters. Wait, "tatters"? Nevermind, then.

Dukeman330

Peter M isn't that crazy. Look at the monthly PC sales charts for the last 3 years and it pretty much dominated by WoW and the Sims.

fraudbrand

@dowingba: No. The point is that lots of PC games that lots of people have heard about do exist even if Peter Molyneux wishes to pretend otherwise. I know ~100 of those titles, which is far more than the number of console-only titles I can name for 2008.

godot

@liquidnumb: Because three platforms against one is completely fair, right? Don't spin the truth in your favor -- PC gaming is thriving, not striving.

YHWHMystic

What about DOTA? i loooooovvvvve DOTA

rbee90

He must mean it's in tatters because a Peter Molyneux presents "Insert game" by Peter Molyneux isn't coming out for the PC.

Tizlor

@undefined: OOOoo... yeah... that ignorant little comment just got him a spot on the top of my "I don't give a crap cause you're clueless," list.

avconsumer2

@sh0tgunn0strils: I think If I was you, I'd have put it on Fallout 3. Not saying that Dead Space and Left for Dead are going to be bad but I'd figure that you'd be looking for another open world RPG type experience to replace Fable 2.

Guild_Navigator

Why is he complaining about the PC gaming market being in tatters when his company have shoved all their weight behind the 360?

I just have to wonder why a company that was founded upon PC gaming titles is complaining about its downfall when it has already "fled the sinking ship" as it were and moved to another platform? Instead of complaining that the pc market is in tatters why can't he actually give us a PC release of his game (and not a half-arsed port like the last PC fable)? An RPG game for a platform that has an incredible wealth of rpg gamers.

He's complaining about a problem which he has possibly made worse by his failure to support pc gaming -.-

ZhouYu

Canceled my CE Fable2 and went with dead space and left 4 dead. a good trade i think.

sh0tgunn0strils

Obulis is fucking amazing!

rainofwalrus

It doesn't look like valve is doing that bad either, peter...

Swizzler121

@undefined:
So if i look at the shelves för the pc in sweden...
Lets see almost as much as for the ps2. hmm... But maybe that´s because sweden is more on the pc side.

basseman

"If you're not EA or Blizzard"

Blizzard I can agree with but is EA really the standard we want to hold up as an example of PC gaming NOT being total crap?

Alchemistmerlin

Is it just me or does Peter Molyneux look a lot like that heroin addict from Trainspotting that Irving Welsh played?

NeoStarr

@YHWHMystic: Since his comment comprised of a few numbers, how do you know he was taking a stance against PC gaming?

I think those numbers show PC gaming is stronger then console gaming. When I read it, I thought he was siding with PCs (I mean, saying "PC platform alone" is kind of boasting how well is did by itself).

Kymeira

@Marlor: I bought about 30 pc games this year, 2 for DS, and 1 for wii.

Maybe it's not a fair comparison, since most of the pc titles are 5+ years old, but hey, unlike consoles, you can always play old games on your windows.

Erh, Vista doesn't count.

DarkDraken

@godot: not trying to start anything.. but there are plenty of cheap looking games on there. if you created a list of x360 or wii (not ps3 id say since its def lacking in software) including smaller titles for xbox live arcade or wiiware.. itd probably be larger for each console alone. it sounds to me that youre more of a pc gamer.. which would make sense why you wouldnt be able to name 100 console only titles... but i could do that and probably not name 10 pc only titles because im not into pc games.

shouryuuken

@Fozziedave:
This.

Rohit_N

@DarkDraken:
Many PC games I've bought this year are pretty old, too.

And awesome.

Rohit_N

'Molyneux says... Molyneux says... Molyneux says..." Why the fuck do you hang on his every comment, Kotaku? I'm pretty sure most of us are sick of him and don't give two shits about his opinion at this stage of the game. He's out of his element.

Cosmic_Bard

As long as Steam is still going, then PC gaming will never die.

HaiducFolken

The PC gamer scene is way bigger today than it was in the 90s.

Back then a "PC for games" was the craziest idea you could come up with.

Shadowlayer

Whether or not mainstream PC gaming dies off eventually, indie gaming is absolutely thriving right now. So who cares?

TheLoudCowboy

Along with all the software companies that are doing VERY well on PC, I bet Nvidia would also disagree with Peter's statements.

We should revisit this topic after sales data is released for Fallout 3. I bet that there's not going to be as large of a difference in sales numbers between the 360 and PC versions as Molyneux would lead you to believe.

phor11

@Ahmunnaeetchoo: That's because everyone else is busy actually working on their game.

chronubis

That picture looks like it was generated by the Oblivion engine

CubemonkeyNYC

@Rohit_N: It's funny pc games can keep their players interested for years and years after it's initial release; where as on the other hand many console gamers seem to get bored with their purchase very quickly.

Perhaps with multi becoming so common players will keep playing games like halo, cod4, gow, etc. for years after. Much like starcraft, diablo, counterstrike, etc. have.

sereal

I guess this means no new Black & White games, and after Peter said he planned on making about 5 (this was said around when B&W2 came out). Sad, since I consider the first Black & White one of the most original and fun PC games to ever come out. We will see if that is what he means by this or not.

SecCom

@PATSCRU: He's really only made one console game: Fable...which was ported to PC later. Lionhead's other entries are all PC, and their first game only came out in 2001. Fable 2 is Peter's only other console game that I am aware of...

Maybe some of his Bullfrog games got ported, but I'm pretty sure they were all PC games from the get-go.

SecCom

Ah yes, the weekly "ZOMG THE SKY IS FALLING ON PC GAMING" comment by a clueless instant expert who hasn't been anywhere near the PC gaming world for more than a decade.

PC detractors, come on to steam and see what PC gaming really is. I dare you.

PATSCRU

@Strangelove: Amen brother. Somehow quality PC games keep coming out and graphic cards keep getting made despite the market apparently having been 'dead' since 2002. Am I hallucinating my collection of Steam games or what?

rateoforange

Every goddamn week for the last 10 years people have been declaring PC gaming dead or in serious trouble. I look over at my shelf full of PC titles and just keep smiling knowingly.

Strangelove

You know, a lot of people might be getting sick of hearing about how PC gaming is is decline, but I'm getting even more sick of hearing how sick people are of it.

Just becasue Valve and EA are doing well on the PC, does not bloody well mean its peaches and cream for the rest that are struggling. Note that Peter did not say PC gaming is dead. He said it is in tatters. And outside of Valve and a lucky few others, IT IS.

And another thing: if everyone is so sick about hearing about the state of PC gaming, then maybe the press should stop asking every game developer's opinion on it at every chance they get.

LordPotato

"Steam? What's Steam?" - Peter Molyneux

DaveKap

@shouryuuken: Exactly, I'm not a console gamer and wouldn't dare offer an opinion on whether or not console gaming is in tatters. But neither am I the head of a major studio like Peter Molyneux who is expected to know the difference.

By the way, don't worry about not knowing many PC-only titles. Just because most PC games are also released on consoles doesn't mean the PC is dying.

godot

hardly in tatters... ea games generally suck however. company of heroes? dawn of war ii? flashpoint sequel? piracy may be a problem, but great games are coming for the pc again this year.

ps - empire total war.

molyneux and his lame "morality games" can go f themselves.

kwizhader

@phor11: Nvidia is hurting right now.
They overpriced their GTX 260 and 280 cards not knowing that ATI was going to compete for once. They had to drop the prices almost immediately after release.
Not to mention that their stocks took a huge dive after they had to recall a line of mobile GPUs.

VBerg

So what is Valve? Chopped liver?

AzureD

@Kymeira: Perhaps I was too hasty with my reply and wrongfully assumed he was opposing the original poster. It was mostly a knee-jerk reaction since he didn't explicitly state exactly which side he was on. (Blame me for lurking sites with rabid console fanboys.) Regardless, it seems I underestimated the Kotaku crowd -- this blog is full of wonderful people who almost think alike (at least on subjects that aren't political or religious). Yes, you're right -- for a single platform, those numbers are incredible.

YHWHMystic

@ duckmouth: You know what, I for one agree with Molyneux on this one. I also hate the fact that he is bashed in for every opinion he utters simply because he is Peter Molyneux. Now, I like everyone else was mad at him hyping Fable (even though I didn't buy it. Don't get me wrong, I'm no Molyneux fan, I fact I've never purchased a single game made by him) but come on, he doesn't deserve this!

It's just popular to dislike Peter, and that's why everyone does it.

LuXe