@daknight: I have to correct you a little. The DSi Ware service will cost 0, 200, 500, or 800 Nintendo points each. The DSi's music player won't play MP3s as far as we know, but ACCs.

jonaswan2

This was a great conference, i wonder why they didn't do this over at E3 T_T

valhum

This conference makes things better after a lackluster E3, good for Nintendo, and for me since my only currente console is a Wii. Still I want to see what Sony shows on TGS, I hope they show the new project from Team Ico, loved both Ico and SOTC, can't wait to see what they're cooking up now.

chemical_eng_mx

I hope that Punch Out Wii doesn't suck.

Firemane

@jiggaboojones:
The news is mixed. Minor storage solution problem is decent, if 3 years late. Punch-Out, while expected, is still cool. Sin & Punishment 2 is an awesome announcement, hopefully it's released in the US. That Capcom vs Tetsu fighting game is great news for Japanese gamers at least. I hope they find a way to bring something similar to the US. The key here is this announcement is designed for the Japanese crowd more than the US one so maybe some of the highlighted games aren't as interesting. Still, there's a lot to like from a lot of different angles. I don't think that would be considered weak even if you aren't interested in most games.

Mommar

@jiggaboojones: You're just going to have to cry into your pillow at night or sell your Wii/DS because Nintendo will not be at TGS. In fact, Nintendo is rarely ever at TGS. That's why they have these fall press conferences, troll.

jonaswan2

@Vashu:
IIRC they did talk a lot about wireless, like a new special router and people with internet problems get free points or something.

ZinkO: preferred the old theme AND comment system

This sounds pretty sick Its like a psp with "good" games I may pick this up still rocking my phat lol plus a ds that can download stuff, with an opera browser and can increase the capabilities of my wii? ill buy, i jus hope they start getting some games out for wii... I give this conference 3/5 it wasnt as casual and made me happy.

Kuroh

What about the wireless? is it any better? I hate that it only works with WEP keys.

Vashu

@elementary: Also, notice that the GC -> Wii remakes are all in 16:9 screen ratio.

Shiryu

@ZinkO: preferred the old theme AND comment system:

No I not. Nintendo better have something else up their sleeve for TGS. Punch out was to be expected the only good news really for me is Sin and Punishment 2.

jiggaboojones

@elementary:
1) You can now buy the games directly to the SD card, I'm not sure if you can play them directly from there.. but at least the transference should be faster.

2) Nah.. probably DSi specific games

3) I want to know that too :(

CockroachMan

@CaptainMurphy: Or, if your contract is close to expiring, you could likely replace your current phone with one that does have a camera and music playback for somwhere between free and $50.

elementary

@elementary: Here is the info from what I know

1) This is a bit confusing to me as well, I believe is that you can play them from the SD card...cause one could already transfer this stuff to the SD card. So being able to download it directly to the SD card isn't really much of a solution.

2) It'll have its OWN download service that for now is call DSware, where games will be free, 500 and 800 points each. That is what the SD card is for (as well as pictures). It also has a built-in storage space for this. I believe is ALSO to store mp3.

3) Yes, the GC games being release under the new brand will feature added Wii controls.

daknight

I still have my original ds, I'll definitely buy this new one seeing as how my phone is doesn't have a camera or music playback

CaptainMurphy

Pretty good conference.. Punch-out and the storage solution made me happy.. I forgive Iwata for E3.. now let's see if I can forgive Reggie :P

CockroachMan

DSi, not iDS. Apple's marketing is too strong to resist.

elementary

@jiggaboojones:
You kidding? Sin and Punishment 2 and Punch Out?

ZinkO: preferred the old theme AND comment system

Okay, I have a few questions still.

1) What's with the new Wii SD card game storage? Can you play VC and WiiWare games direct from card? If not, what's new about it?

2) I see the new iDS is capable of downloading and storing games now. Does this mean we can tranfer our VC and WiiWare games to the DS and play them on the go? (Okay, I already know the answer is no)

3) Gamecube games being released as Wii playables. Will these versions support Wii IR pointer and motion controls the way RE4 did?

elementary

@BassForever:
Check out the DSi and wii videos for a snapshot of a bunch of new titles:
[kotaku.com]
[kotaku.com]

Brian Crecente

Shiryu watches Nintendo press conference, seems pleased.

Shiryu

Yet another weak news conference from Nintendo.

jiggaboojones

@BassForever: yes, that's confirmed, as is a Wario Ware where yo make you're own minigames [gonintendo.com]

DarkAinur

I thought they annouced some new NDS games like Mario and Luigi RPG 3? Did Kotaku talk about them in the live blog or was that just a rumor?

BassForever

LOL! new model just to tray to screw R4 and the roms...

Sorry nintendo but NO! :P

Kurow

I really fancy the DSi now. In-built browser, camera, music playback AND downloadable content/games is awesome, and totally took me by surprise.

Wii-wise - New game announcements rock. The main games I'm looking forward to now from today's announcement are:

Another Code
Cosmic Walker
Endless Ocean 2: Beautiful Ocean
Punch-Out!!
Sin and Punishment 2

:D

Azza

I hope they surprise us in San Fran with more new announcements. Punch Out is cool, storage solution is OK, I never played Sin and Punishment... but I'll get the VC title just to see what it's all about.

Maybe in San Fran they'll announce they're publishing The Conduit... after all it is America and we love our first person shooters.

nastysquared

@jiggaboojones: I just think you were expecting things that were never going to happen. You're not going to get a Zelda announcement until it's ready, your not going to get a Mario announcement until it's ready, heck Nintendo doesn't even seem to like to announce a new franchise or game until about an hour in advance.

Again, you should probably sell your Wii and/or DS (if you even have them) because it doesn't have anything that's going to interest you for the rest of '08, and I can't do anything to convice you otherwise.

P.S. Don't say this was a disappointing conference unless you put "IMHO" behind it, because you stated it in your opening comment like it was a fact or even an opinion of the majority.

jonaswan2

Color me a very dull shade of "meh", which is like gray, but tainted by apathy and being unamused.

Kenji-sama

@valhum: Well, to begin with, most of the new titles and products shown in their fall conference are for early 2009. E3 is in the middle of the year, and it wouldn't make much sense for Nintendo to crack their chickens before their ready to hatch. The exception, of course, being Wii Motion+ and Wii Sports Resort (and only as an effort to 1up Microsoft and Sony and to get information out to developers).

Second, Nintendo now seems to be using E3 as a conference for the general public.

jonaswan2

@jonaswan2:

I like how you call me troll just because I speak the truth. You are an obvious Wii/DS fanboy. What have they given us for the fall beside Castlevania Judgement and Tales of Symphonia? Tak and the Guardians of Gross, Iron Chef America: Supreme Cuisine, Celebrity Sports Showdown. And those are just some of the shitty titles coming out in October. Nintendo needs to get their head out their ass and start releasing games worth our money.
Nothing agaisnt the DS because they have a shitload of crap coming out or just recently released.

jiggaboojones

@Firemane: well, if you've played any other Wii games, then you know there's a high likelihood it WILL suck. either that, or it'll be fun for 5 minutes, then boring.

First2Die

@valhum:

From what I gather Nintendo has said that E3 is no longer a good place (for them) to highlight core games. Basically they lost faith in E3.

yomachaser

@CaptainMurphy: I'm still holding out for the camera attachment for the PSP that was suppose to be out over a year ago.

First2Die

@daknight: Oh.. just found a screenshot of Donkey Kong with a Wiimote reference.. so.. I think the controls are being remade :)

[www.famitsu.com]

CockroachMan

@jonaswan2: Nobody cares about the "New Zelda/Mario/Metroid". We have had enough of those. How about something NEW??? Yeah I know, wacky, isn't it?

Nintendo has been using the same franchise for over 20 years!!! Can't they think something new? Forget the "Wii-Something" Stuff, that doesn't count

The DS is awesome as it is, and getting better everyday... and the Wii? Nope. It's gathering dust in my room

P.S: That storage solution isn't a solution at all.. Nintendo just refuses to actually do something

Chopper_Mike

@chemical_eng_mx: ... with the economy in the shape that it's in, I would probably still buy a PS3, just to try out Team Ico's new game. Ico and SotC were perfect examples of games as art.

yanya

I am betting part of the reason that Nintendo is releasing this is in some effort to try and break compatibility with flash carts.

Flash Carts recently fell in price, now people can buy a decent DS Flashcart for only 13 dollars. With flashcarts costing less then an actual DS game I am sure they are starting to have a very serious problem with piracy.

Still, I wonder if some smart people will figure out how to load homebrew and ROMS over that new SD Slot they decided to throw in there.

coleco

Trace Memory... on Wii? Still can't believe it, that one came out of nowhere. Seeing as the original is quite possibly my favorite game for the DS, I'm quite excited for this one, and hope that NoA will acknowledge it at their conference today. So good to see Ashley up and about again. Anybody know if this is supposed to be a remake?... sequel?

... and if it's a sequel, where will that leave D?

yanya

:( Why did no one mention a new Taiko Drum Master game was coming out for the Wii? I couldn't be more excited! Shame on no one for mentioning this. I never would have caught it if I didn't see the video off Nintendo's site.

digipen89

The new Trace Memory is what excites me the most. I hope Sting is still behind it. Also, if it's true the GCN releases will be optimized with Wii controls, I might be buying Metroid Prime and Echoes again.

formina

@jonaswan2: It seems like it.

But whatevs, i am excited about the new info and i am even tempting on getting the new DS even though i barely use my Lite hahaha.

valhum

@First2Die: hey speak for yourself.
i rather enjoyed my SSBB and mario galaxy. When it comes to first party Nintendo games, they generally are very well made.

zgnoud

This is why I sold my Wii to my parents. There was like...1...2..maybe 3 games I want. None of them even look like titles that will be fun for longer than 10 minutes. I feel it's a real shame this happened but what ever. I'm happy with my ps3 and 360

oosiegewolfoo

@Chopper_Mike: What about Disaster and Captain Rainbow? We didn't even know Nintendo was even thinking about releasing those games until a few months before it happened. I know I didn't have the slightest clue that Fatal Frame IV was going to be a Wii exclusive until before it released. Let's not even talk about some of the recent WiiWare games.

You want new franchises from Nintendo, you're going to have to be patient. As we've seen in the past, Nintendo doesn't announce games a year (or more) in advance, only build hype that could eventually come down in down in disappointment. You can't do that with brand new concepts and brand new franchises. If you want new franchises, you're going to have to be patient. If you can't be patient, there are plenty of parents and suckers who will buy your Wii off of you for a premium come Christmas.

And don't even give me that new franchise BS, because the majority of Nintendo fanboys that buy Nintendo consoles (not you), seem to buy them for the Nintendo experience. They don't want new, they want Mario.

Also, can someone explain to me why Nintendo and Nintendo alone have to be the ones that supply the fun and entertainment for your little white boxes? Nintendo opened the Wii and the DS up to 3rd parties for a reason.

jonaswan2

Apple updates ipods with same features. People rejoice. Nintendo update DS with new features. People bitches. I'm all for this new DSi ... better than wasting money on porn/beer/strip clubs like SOME of you.

Earthslide

0.3mp camera? is this a joke? And what's with the shoulder buttons sticking out? What a lousy redesign... I keep my orginal DS thank you.

Zeuxis

I don't really care for Nintendo. Sorry!

Ghostm

@jonaswan2: I love the phrase crack their chickens before their [sic] ready to hatch.

Crack a chicken!

skrame ☆

@Zeuxis: .3 internal, 3 external! 3 is more than the iPhone.

The only real downside to the DSi is the battery life. =\

dynendal

Learning about the SD slot makes me want to buy the DSi. Is that bad? D: I'm still iffy on these new revisions but it's not like this has never happened before so it was to be expected. The revisions do seem really nice though.

Re-relesing GC games? I don't really like that, it's almost like the're saying 'we've run out of games'.

Being able to save games directly to the SD card, this really should have been there all along and we still have to wait till 09 for it?

Aflack: Likes slushies

@Ghostm: Thanks for your valuable input on this important matter!

Anyways, I'm just happy Nintendo has finally said something rather than nothing, for once.

dynendal

@CaptainMurphy: 3rd world countries have better phones than yours. :P

Aflack: Likes slushies

@jonaswan2: troll indeed. Sin and Punishment 2 is serious, PunchOut is still awesome no matter how you slice it. Tatsunoko vs Capcom is not only great but exclusive last I checked. Sky Crawlers looked great too and there were a number of other games worthy of note.

There's a lot to like in that line for some of us. It's funny how people that sound like total non-nintendo fans will complain about how their nintendo hardware is collecting dust. Kinda like the guy that complains that girls suck because none will sleep with him...but he's gay.

Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.

@Zeuxis:Pay attention.

@Ghostm:Then don't post in topics about them, you silly git.

Foxstar Sixtail

Eh? So... no first party gaming?

Ultrasinc