I'm just going to avoid denial of not needing to upgrade by importing day 1.

You win, Nintendo.

BudDudandSlash

Oh they're just lying. Again. They said this about the GBA when the DS first came out.

sarusa

Ninty...what strategy?

You don't need to come up with anything new! Just release something NEW every once and a while and the consumerist in us all will buy them!

PS

For those saying, "NOT ME!"

Guess what? You are in the minority! Don't believe me.....look at the sale charts -_-

Vecha

@TheEternalCowboy:
I bet you it is.

Anyway, I severely doubt this is actually what is going to happen. In any case, once this thing hits this side of the Pacific, I'm getting a DS Lite.

I don't mind being a generation behind, at least not in the handheld department. The system and the games are cheaper, and I know which ones are good.

Dragonis

I just replaced my prototype DS (aka original DS aka DS Phat) with a blue/black DS Lite today. Lost interest in the DSi after the "well into 2009" US release bit.

Seinosuke

I still own and love the DS Phat, the texture is so much more comfortable. Though what irritates me is that they removed the GBA slot, which means I would not be able to use my Supercard-miniSD card in it and would have to grab a slot-1 cart instead to enjoy the new homebrews that will be developed to use the dual cameras.

Lazureus

Ahem:

[palgn.com.au]

Nintendo has confirmed that the Nintendo DS, its new dual-screen machine is not being made to take place of the Game Boy Advance.

I'm still eagerly awaiting my Game Boy Further Advanced.

Maybe that's the next big announcement.

TheEternalCowboy

Greedy bastards!

DestinyGuy

@reximusmaximus: since the DSi is more than a simple set of improvements like the Lite *was* over the "phat."

Can't write good tonight, grad school reading fried my brain.

reximusmaximus

I, too, have my DS Phat, but I'll eventually replace it with a DSi. Not for a while, though.

Roc-Thul

I smell a rat. I'm sure Nintendo will come up with some way to make current DS owners like myself switch over, since the DSi is more than a simple set of improvements like the Lite over the "phat."

reximusmaximus

I'm with you, Luke. I still have my original DS and I still haven't really seen a reason to replace it.

Platypus Man

STUPID STUPID CAmmiE!!!! you sell DS lite...and once everyone just got a DS per two household...you will release DSi. Who is going to buy DSi when someone has just bought a DS lite?! those who bought a DS earlier (those of 1 in each 5 household) will. But those who bought the DS lite later when DSi is about to launch(which is like 3 of 5 households) WILL NOT buy it because they just got a DS lite. We rather wait! so be smart and release it earlier! See the math? About only 20% will buy DSi. The rest will probably stick to their old DS til DSi price goes cheap(which is like in what, a year or so.)

Sintonado

@someguyxvii: LAWL, that my friend sums it all up. And tsk tsk to half the people who didn't get the reference!

RyuriTatsujin

As soon as they have a commercial of Star Trek: The Next Generation's Patrick Stewart, taking naught pictures of a Stewardess on a plane... I'll buy one.

Hell I'll buy one anyway.

Handbanana37

Not impressed yet. Really wanted it to have a decent camera.

lunarcore

"Because when you've got only one in every five households in the US"

Only?

That's crazy! I don't even know anyone with a DS.

mind in rewind

Brought to you by the new Gamestation 256! It's slightly faster, To The Max!!

someguyxvii

the instant Nintendo comes out with a new hand held, game stop/EB games will have a deal to trade in your older version and get the newer one cheaper. all new customers will want the latest and greatest. although I don't know all my facts at all, mainly because I don't read much about the DS. if these DSi are playing the same games as the DS/DS Light then there is still room for the DS Light on the market for thous who don't want to fork out the extra money, just like people still buy the original DS used.

cluster1990

I can't imagine having a DS Phat and not being tempted by the DS lite. It is eons better in terms of aesthetics, form, and function. If I owned a Phat, I'd get rid of it and order a DS Lite the day it came out.

LittleBigPlaneteer

I'm happy with my DS Lite.. (except that the hinge is cracked again, but not fatally whereas last time the entire indicator light part snapped off).. Beyond any small things, it's probably my favorite system...

And nothing about the DSi really makes me want to pick it up. Not the MP3 nor camera.. But the prospect of the store and applications and possible channel interface.. and maps! That's what would sell me on the system.. But I'll have to see how those turn out.

But for now, I am glad they aren't trying to phase out the DS.

drivebyinsult

@Metal_Slug_Solid: Good God man, just put it out of its misery... That thing reminds me of the guy pinned by the subway in Faces of Death IV.

Killtacular

@mind in rewind:
Exactly, you don't know anyone with a DS because there's only one in every five households...

ELUNO

I have a DS Phat, and never saw a reason to upgrade to the Lite. I may wind up buying a DSi, though.

kefkakrazy

I've got my old SP that I still use for GBA games to this day, the screen is bigger, and a little more comfortable.

Sure the screen on the DSLite might be higher res, and much more bright, but the d-pad doesn't have that clicky feel when you do a direction, gives nice feedback, compared to the DS/Lite's squishy d-pad, which is also smaller. I've also many times accidentally turned off my DS because of the slider switch, the SP might have a slider too, but it's a binary one, not "slide up for on, then up again for off".

I dunno, I think that this is an instance of tech moving forward for the sake of it, and not for any...reason. The DS lite is more then small enough in size, big enough screen, doesn't seem like it needs a renewed model. Phat to Lite made sense, Phat was....well...fat, like GB to GBC/Pocket. But a camera? That just seems unecesarry, although kinda neat.

The SD card slot I'm looking forward to. Buying entire DS games online? Sounds AWESOME, especially when some DS games are sure to be small enough to fit on a 1-2gb SD card. Maybe even old GBA games, GB, GBC, who knows?

If the homebrew scene can release emulators for any system you can imagine, then why can't Nintendo? Then again, if the homebrew scene can release a way for DVD movies to play on the Wii, and Nintendo can't (more likely wont), the sky is the limit.

Talleh

I have a DS Phat, but the top screen and the bottom screen are not attached to each other. The bottom half flashes on for a half a second before going off again, and the top half doesn't do anything without the bottom half. Poor thing.

Metal_Slug_Solid

Have a launch Phat now. Used to have that and a Lite, but thieving bastards broke in to my place and nabbed it. Never really felt the need to replace it, and have barely touched the DS since.

Killtacular

Still using my launch-shipment DS. Got a scratch on the screen but what do you know, it still works.

tim333

@Seinosuke: i totally agree. I was ready to buy a DSi until they said: will release not until late 2009. FAILURE. Don't be surprised if sales in Japan go sky rocketing when in NA is being questionable.

Sintonado

@Talleh:
The camera seems neat until you realize it's a 0.3 megapixel camera. Jesus, even my shitty old HP digital cam is better (with its glorious 3.2 megapixels).

Combichristoffersen

@Seinosuke:
Actually, the prototype DS is VERY different from the original DS...
See here.

I don't see why the late date is such a problem.

BPMΣ

@undefined: Sure they did, and for a pretty good while the DS and GBA coexisted. It's not like NOA purposely lied about the third tier thing, they just didn't anticipate the DS to explode like it did.

Besides, this is like comparing apples to oranges, the DSi is the same hardware, not an entirely new system.

superbagman

I bought a DS Phat and Lite, have owned every nintendo handheld since the start (even Virtual Boy). But I don't ever use it. Not that it doesn't have fantastic games, it would just be an expensive habit. I use my PSP 1000x more than my DS. That said, I won't be getting a DSi.

ConfuciusMax

@Dragonis:
Well, DS/DS Lite and DSi will play the same games. At least, they haven't specified any DSi-only games. Aside from downloadables from DSiWare Shop. It'd be foolish to make retail games compatable for only one model of the handheld instead of all. Like what if they made games that were only compatable with PSP-2K/3K? (both have more RAM than PSP-1K)... Just a bad idea.

@TheEternalCowboy:
I think they only said that because they were afraid that the DS wouldn't sell well. And in case it bombed like their LAST third tier system (Virtual Boy), they could come out with a new Game Boy and say, "Ha! This was our plan all along!"

At this point, it'd be foolish to make a new Game Boy.

BPMΣ

I honestly think the DSi is the most uneeded productI've seen in years. The DS Lite was needed because Nintendo was actually losing a bit of steam to the PSP, but with the DS lite they dominated.

Everything about the DSi could be accomplished with a DS lite and additional accessories if they wanted to do so. Well aside from the quarter inch of extra screen. It gets worse battery life and it costs more. That's hardly an improvement.

LittleBigPlaneteer

I never thought DSi would replace the DS Lite. I see the DSi as being like the Game Boy Micro: The unneeded third remake of this generation of portable before the unveiling of the next generation portable. Trust me, the next Game Boy is going to be announced next year or 2010...

Soralinkyuna

Even the DS lite didn't really have any essential changes. Cameras and all that fun stuff is cute, but I will probably never use it.

jookie

The DS/DS Lite (IT'S SPELLED LIGHT! L-I-G-H-T! OK, pedantry done) is not going out any time soon.

Activision are making far too much money out of it.

Guitar Hero: On Tour needs the GBA slot for the grip, rendering it incompatible with the DSi.

Looks like I'll have to get another handheld... they're going to have games exclusive to the DSi, you know.

DavidRS

"One in every five households" is marketing speak for "five or six color variants purchased and traded-in by one anal-retentive tech nerd for every unit sold to someone normal".

futurebiblehero

@LittleBigPlaneteer: easier said than done. It's hard to trade up if the thing still works perfectly and while DS Lites aren't exspensive they also aren't totally cheap (not to poor college people like me anyways lol). Plus... the DS Phat is charming... kinda... like how an ugly puppy is charming.

Rev

I actually like the DS Phat better than the DS Lite. God thing that the DSi would not (right now) be replaced.

Mike's Stalker

Lets not hope this is their idea of the next generation of DS. The thing looks nice, but the next Nintendo hand held I buy will be the one with better graphics. And at least an analog stick.

Thorax

DS Phat owners of the world unite!

Our Motto: What is that? Is that a PDA?

(I have been asked that every single time I've gotten on a plane...)

Rev

@TheEternalCowboy: Three words.

Game. Boy. Micro.

Anyone here remember it, much less have it?

It wasn't meant to take the GBA's place, but it sold so well and was so innovative it just did.

DavidRS

@Soralinkyuna: I'm with you on this one; I see the DSi earning some popularity in Japan (where they're all about the latest gadgets and such), establishing a small niche for itself as a nifty multimedia device for the uninitiated, then quietly disappearing after the next Nintendo hand-held comes out.

Know what I'm hoping for? A portable N64, analog stick and all. Could you imagine how wildly popular a perfect port of Ocarina of Time would be for such a hand held?

GhostWhoWalks

@reximusmaximus:

Actually that's the exact problem, the DSi IS just a simple set of features more than a DS lite. Most of the features are underwhelming or just don't warrant a new model.

They should have just let the DS Lite gain as much momentum as it could then announce the next DS. This, is just stupid.

NeoAkira

@vyleside:You do know you can call up Nintendo and send in the DS Phat and have it completely repared for very little or maybe even free right? It might not hurt even if your going to upgrade.

Foxstar Sixtail

@futurebiblehero:

that's actually a really good point.

Asstastic

I want a DS lite. I've got a DS phat whose R trigger is getting very temperamental in its old age. The only reason I want to upgrade at all (or sidegrade in a way) is because what I have is no longer working properly. I still play a lot of GBA games. The DS lite is perfect for my needs. DSI looks like a step forward for needless enhancements and a step back for functionality.

Kinda like a woman getting super sized boobs, really.

vyleside

Liiiiiiiiiies.No-one believes the non-replacement lines, Cammie, just like no-one believed them for DS-Lite. Or the "third pillar" crap when DS first came out. Then, like before, this is just insurance in case it flops - when it doesn't, you'll happily drag the relevant old system out the back and shoot it in the head to put it out of it's misery, while the new boy wonders when it will also lose its place of glory.

Seriously, why are they even bothering to pretend any more? We all know it's going to replace Lite, so be honest for once.

Overlord44

Retail best buy cameras are up to something stupid like 12 megapixels

By the time this thing hits the NA market cellphones will have standard 5 megapixel with high end pushing 8.

what the fuck do you want a 3 megapixel camera for? i am not a photographer or a real techie kinda guy but this is like releasing a ps3 that can play VHS tapes.

(actually that would be pretty damn cool...)

most people who own a DS will have a fancier camera on their phone in their pocket.

Asstastic

@Platypus Man:
Same here.

ketenol

Is it just me....or do I see ZERO reason to upgrade from my DS Lite??? I really don't care about listening to music or watching media as that screen really lacks any resolution.

That's what my PSP is for or my ARCHOS or my brand new EEE PC 1000H :) Wheeeee......

GoonieGooGoo2

@DavidRS: Gameboy Micro IS a Gameboy Advance, but with no GBC and GB compatibility (if I remember correctly).

DMC-Man

I'm still wondering why the hell do you need a camera that gives out a 640x480 resolution on a damn handheld console? Guys... I think we have just found this generation's gameboy camera. Plug the SD card into a printer that accepts multi-media cards... and there we go.

akumaserge

@reximusmaximus: DSi has DSware or whatever they were calling it, the DS version of Wiiware. That's their main way of trying to convert reluctant people.

DMC-Man

@ELUNO: Touché.

mind in rewind

@Combichristoffersen: The exterior camera is 3.0 megapixels. The interior cam is 0.3 megapixels.

mind in rewind

@DavidRS: Don't forget to complain to Miller Lite and Lite-Brite too. Oooooh, they don't even spell bright correctly either.

ShiningDark

@Foxstar Sixtail: It really wasn't - like you said, it was only going to happen if DS flopped. It was insurance, nothing more.

And yes of course it's going to replace it - I just don't see why they neec to pretend otherwise.

Overlord44

@Asstastic:
.3 megapixels.. .3

akumaserge

@drivebyinsult:Call Nintendo. Hinge repairs are 100% free.

Foxstar Sixtail

@Overlord44:Wow, you do take this stuff seriously.

The DS-Lite was clearly stated to be the DS Phat's replacement and no one said otherwise. The third pillar plan however -was- completely and totally true, because no one at Nintendo knew if the DS would take off at all like it did.

But you really shouldn't take this stuff so seriously, this is the way the gaming market works, you know? The PSP-3000 is going to replace the 2000.

Foxstar Sixtail

I had a DS Phat but it broke as I got a lite, which is a shame because I think I'm the only person on earth who prefers the look of the Phat to the Lite (although the Lite's Hardware is better)

As for the i not replacing the Lite, didn't Nintendo say the DS wasn't going to be a replacement for the GBA?

Mrrix32

@mind in rewind:
Ah, I stand corrected. Thanks for the info :)

Combichristoffersen

@GhostWhoWalks: isn't the DS already kinda like a portable N64? I mean it is as powerful as the N64 it got N64 remakes.. it just doesn't have an analog stick... Nintendo's next handheld must be a lot more powerful than the DS/N64

jaronimo

I've got a lite, but it's 30% larger and plays the same games....Ok, you've got me, it's really a phat! what next? I have to strap a digital camera,a mobile phone and a PSP for SD cards to the thing to tell you I got a DSi one year early?

scotty999

Ok I'm a bit confused with this DS Camera Nintendpod. Is this a completely new platform? In other words will there be seperate games specifically for the DSi, or is this DS--->>DSi just like the DS phat--->DS Lite transition? If it is like phat--->Lite, won't the new gaming features of the DSi be pretty much useless with the 3 different models? Hope this makes sense, I am up way too late.

Bii-Nii-Wii-Nii

@Mrrix32: Good point, But I think the Gba just died.

Soyerzz

@Bii-Nii-Wii-Nii: Its just another update, Yet such a huge one.

Soyerzz

I guess I could repeat AGAIN that Nintendo isn't forcing anybody to buy anything.
For me this is perfect. I don't play GBA games on my Lite anyway, because I thought Nintendo would have fixed the really unnatractive sticking out that made me reluctant to play any GB games on my GBA.

I don't really own that many GOOD GBA games anyway; I've completed Link to the Past about four times and to give you a rough idea the rest consist of such "hits" as Digimon Racer and xXx. I had my GBA and GBC at a time where I wasn't even sure what good games were. I didn't have the internet, nor did I buy gaming magazines.

... the point I'm trying to make is, I'm getting the DSi. Do what you want, I have always been Nintendo's bitch.

FanBuoy

@Platypus Man:

Absolutely man. Been tempted to replace it once or twice, but never really enough reason to.

Itri

My theory with Game Boys since 1989 has been to sit out a generation. I had the 1989 GB, then sat out the Game Boy Pocket, but picked up a GB Color. Sat out the Micro and picked up a GBA. I did cave and buy a DS, but since I own no Lite I consider myself poised for a DSi. Fuck you Nintendo.

bxlxsx

Still completely baffled as to why they're releasing it at all, then. Nintendo said themselves, just a short while ago, that new consoles come when the existing ones sales start to drop ... which clearly isn't the case at all. Why not just wait another year or two before announcing or releasing anything? Then you could actually make some genuine improvements to the hardware as well.

sanzen

I never jump into a Nintendo handheld first you always get screwed.No backlighting, no color,etc. I think it is time to get a DS Lite. I have a ton of great GBA games and playing them on a GBA is getting old. Plus all the Homebrew possibilities. The time is now.

jackal888

Didnt they state that the dsi wouldnt come to the US till around christmas 2009?

majortom1029

@Platypus Man: My original DS had the screen tear, and before that a few dead pixels, it was easy to want to replace mine. Heck, even my "New" PSP 2000 has a dead pixel :(

BassForever

I still miss my old phat. Rest in Peace, cherished portable friend.

Rebochan

I'll probably get a DSi, I still have my Phat since the Lite never gave me a good reason to replace it.

EmeraldDragon

@GhostWhoWalks: "A portable N64, analog stick and all."

hahaha that would be awesome!

Do celebrities really help a product sell??

Cammie-"You've seen some of the work we've done this year with celebrities, that we're bringing a lot of new consumers in to the DS."

I mean, who in their right mind would say 'hm, Liv Tyler has a DS Lite, now I absolutely must go out and buy one for myself!!'...?? Honestly people, does mankind have no self-restraint?

cdncarlie

@BassForever: My DS had 3 dead pixels on it when I got it for Christmas of the year they were released. We promptly exchanged it and this one hasn't given me any trouble.

Platypus Man

@Talleh: You can fit -MANY- DS games on a 1gb stick.

Sanjo

@Platypus Man: Quit bitching.
My DS has a 'line' of dead pixels in the middle right of the screen. Just makes it special, that's all.

*Rubs DS*.

Sanjo

Passing you by? When I read statements like that, I feel glad I am not the sheep-consumer that they speak of.

Yuki

Well, I can at least say the DSi won't replace my DS Lite.

Wolfers

DS Homebrew is where it's at. I'll pick up a DSi either when a) games start using the camera or b) ram expansions are available (the DS Lite uses the GBA slot for ram expansions). I just got my Bape DS which I'm still trying to pay off, so it'll be a while yet. Hopefully they'll have some kind of super special limited edition waiting for me then too.

NeoStarr

I have a light and, personally, I find the DSi to be retarded. I'm not going to buy one because it's not able to replace my DS and its just as simple as that.

Make a DS with 2 larger touch screens and all the bells and whistles that the DSi has, minus the camera and its functions, and I'd buy that in a heartbeat.

MakaiTenshi

I always assumed this wouldn't be a replacement for the Lite. The lost functionality and the much, much, much worse title would make it a bad move to replace the ridiculously trendy/popular Lite.

dowingba

@reximusmaximus: The lite wasn't anything better and people still went out and bought it in droves. People do stupid things, look at how many people have 3+ PS2s just because new colors or slim versions came out.

Xer0Ph0kus

Lies. Remember when the DS wouldn't replace the GBA? And then we missed EarthBound 3 and Rhythm Tengoku?

Bauske

unlike the GBA to SP upgrade, the move from Phat to Lite was nowhere near as necessary, I mean christ its not as if there are certain DS games that don't play on a Phat!

However....there better be a official SD cart released for the lite and phat because I'll be angry....RAGE

excel_excel

@BPMΣ:

Actually you're way off..

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-Scrixx-

@reximusmaximus:
Well, if they want to be like Sony pulling PS3 PS2 BC, they could stop selling GBA games in stores and only offer them on the DSi download service? Then it won't matter if you have a DS with the slot for one.

fuchikoma

@-Scrixx-:
Haha. Touché.

BPMΣ

@NeoAkira:
That would be the case....if Japan wasn't getting it in a month. They are trying to maintain their momentum in Japan, which is a pretty huge task. Although there are several high-profile games ahead, a new model may just do the trick...in Japan.
Everywhere else, however, can wait. It is not like the average American even knows about the DSi yet. Heck, it's announcement is not even on NYTimes. This is the reason why they couldn't announce this at E3 or much else, for that matter.

Benjammn

@Platypus Man:

My boyfriend's the same way. He still has the Phat, and if that breaks, he'll get another one.

em

@Platypus Man: I've got a few dead pixels on my DS screen, but my original DS still works well. When I played the original GBA, I never bought any of the newer versions because I didn't find the need for them. It might be the same way for my DS, but the DSi looks tempting. If I do buy the DSi, I'll either keep my original DS, or give it to my parents. I still have my GBA, as well as the original GBC, and the very first Game Boy! I never get rid of anything!

dawimp523

DS Phat >:(

generalsean

@cdncarlie: You. Would be. Surprised.

GhostWhoWalks

@jaronimo: That's just the thing; while I'd love a portable Gamecube, I'm not sure if we're there yet. And while the DS has some N64 ports, some of the graphics have actually been downgraded and that lack of an analog stick really made things difficult.

GhostWhoWalks

@Platypus Man: I'm probably gonna get a DSi since I still have my Phat. I've had it five years so I'm up for an upgrade. The touch screen is starting to lose its sensitivity anyway.

Aitrus233

@TheEternalCowboy:

Plans change.

If people mass to a product like they did to the DS, a company would be damn stupid to not focus on it.

Mact

@em:

That's the problem with the Phats (as far as Nintendo goes)... they don't break!

Mact

I almost bought a DS lite. But I love my blue DS Phat too much.

I may consider picking up a Lite when Pokemon Platinum comes out over here for trading with, but the DSi looks nice enough that I might hold off for one of those and just use my Phat for all the Pal Park stuff on both my Pearl and Platinum cards.

Nekusagi

"some period of time" probably means the amount of time it takes to sell off the remaining DS Lites once the DSi comes out.

Wubbytoes

@DavidRS:
It's also incompatible with the DS Phat, from what I can tell, because the GBA slot insert isn't long enough to fit the older model's larger slot, just like a regular GBA cartridge or DS GamePak fits goofy in the DS Lite's slot because it's so tiny.

Purple Dave

Between the Phat and the Lite, I prefer the size, look, and fully-recessed GBA slot of the Phat, but I prefer the D-pad, the brighter screen, and the exposed power indicator lights of the Lite. My solution to the size problem was to get a Nerf Armor for my Lite, which makes it even _more_ comfortable to use than the Phat (I'm an adult, and even the 360's controller feels like it was designed for little toddlers to me), and sticks out far enough that I just leave the Rumble Pak in the slot so there's not a big open gap in the front.

I also have a second Rumble Pak (found it at Gamespot about a year ago for $5 on a sealed factory blister card, which beats the Nintendo Shop price) which I leave in my Phat because it's nice to have for those rare games that actually include that functionality. Unless this has built-in rumble, the loss of the GBA slot is a big strike. The fact that the camera (which is the only real point in buying it) won't work if you've got Nerf Armor strapped on is another.

Purple Dave

@Mrrix32:
You're not the only one...

Purple Dave

I probably won't buy the DSi, mostly because they removed the GBA slot. Frankly, I just haven't been impressed enough by the DS's library of games to not occasionally need my GBA fix too.

TheLoudCowboy

@sarusa: Also, I think they'll leave the DS Lite available because at around $180, the DSi is dangerously close to the PSP, and I don't think they want to fight on features with the PSP at a similar price point. I'll be upgrading to a DSi, but that's mostly because I'll trade in my DS Lite and get a couple gamestop gift cards from survey sites. I would definitely not pay full price for it.

i.of.the.storm

@Xer0Ph0kus: You mean except for a vastly improved form factor and a better backlight?

Lite > Phat

Karunamon

This sounds like that "third pillar" talk they were blowing around before the original ds launch. Pretty much comforting people who are undecided on which purchase to make(pretty much doubling the chance that one of those purchases will be a ds or dsi). But we all know that when this thing makes more money than oil, Nintendo is going remove the ds lite like a genital wart, and no one will remember that Cammie bullshitted us on the issue.(Perrin?)

On a different note i wonder what type of booby trap is in this thing to combat all these flash carts for the ds?

DruDown007

@kefkakrazy: I thought the same, I was tempted to buy the DS lite but there wasnt that much upgrade and a friend was telling me there was a new DS coming too, how the hell did he know I dont know but Im happy he made that advice.

HELLSRIDER

@DMC-Man: The DS/DS Lite couldn't run GB/GBC games... So the DS didn't really take over for the GBA... I still use my GBA SP to play Zelda, Metroid 2, and Final Fantasy Adventure! I'm looking forward to a european release of this bad boy, but I don't think it'll take that long until someone cracks it, and we get a new homebrew society....!

StubbsDK

@Purple Dave: in the box is an adapter to let it work with the original DS.

DavidRS

@ShiningDark: Not Yank, not understanding.

DavidRS