@CaptaiNeNN: No, not everything that uses CC supports gamecube controllers. I'm in the same boat.

But would it support the Wii remote held sideways? I'm fine with that.

Naturestee

@j00s: While I agree, I just don't think some people are ever going to "get" what makes Cave Story so good without going "DUH HUH I GET IT, IT'S LIKE IT'S OLD!" Kind of a shame.

Grave

@sm_twinz: So the guy who made the game can get the money he deserves.

bfwings55

What? There are still people who haven't experienced Cave Story??!

The sacrilege!!

L___E___T

Solid game. This may be the first WiiWare title I consider purchasing (Sin and Punishment's up there, as is MM9).

@saintdestroy: @1Grand_Marquis: Agree with both of you, for the most part. Just because a game is 2D/side-scrolling doesn't mean it's a bad game, e.g. most quality Castlevania games.

thespyderboy

I'm playing the "remake" for the PSP (homebrew, wider screen, better controls in my opinion)

all I wonder is what is new

and why is this worth my money

sm_twinz

@Sofox: Good point.

bfwings55

@bfwings55: Use it because you need it, not because it's there!

Sofox

@Syril: Anything is better than the keyboard I used the first time through :)

vincevl

@Kaizuden: I dunno, I've got a soft spot for midi music. It just makes me feel happy! Here's a good track: (yes, in mp3 format, I know) ftp://ftp.scene.org/pub/music/artists/beat/mp3/celesfnt.mp3

Sofox

"I got my story straight and started looking for reasons why gamers would want to regress to this kind of gameplay."

"Regress"? That's almost offensive. The gameplay is pure, simple fun. That's actually a step up from many high-budget titles being released today.

j00s

It is kind of funny that the most of the big games right now (Bionic Commando: Rearmed, Castle Crashers, Wario Land, Megaman 9, and now this) are all reverting to an older style, despite the rediculous capabilities of the systems.

bfwings55

@Glare: they've been using it for a while on all gawker sights. but it's pretty inconsistently used here.

3inst3in

@Krondonian: I think there is only a Japanese version of the game, but there is a patch that will translate it. I just downloaded and patched it on my Mac. It's pretty easy and the game is loads of fun, you should check it out.

superbagman

OMG I LOVE THE NEW KOTAKU IMAGE VIEWER!!

Glare

Who is this guy?

Morberis

I downloaded Cave Story once, but the Japanese version by accident.

Kinda killed the whole 'story' part of it, considering I don't know Japanese.

I never did get round to getting the English version. One day, one day.

Krondonian

@saintdestroy: I agree. In fact, I'd say a lot of times, a 2D side scrolling approach would have been a superior approach to making some games. I mean, 3D doesn't make EVERYTHING better.

In fact, I'd say on the whole, it makes only a very few things better.

1Grand_Marquis

My favorite version is the PSP one, just because of the awesome 16:9 ratio

MCKWZ

@Spindrift: from what i've read, that seems accurate. some new levels, new graphics. kind of a New SMB style take on it.

CaptaiNeNN

@Syril: doesn't everything that supports cc also support gamecube controllers?

I really don't want to have to buy a CC...

CaptaiNeNN

Ahh, I'm really excited about this turning into a console game. Not so 'everyone' can play it, and not through some idea of 'THE INDIES TAKING ON THE MAINSTREAMS!' or anything. It's just there's one thing that never satisfies when playing the game on the PC.

It belongs on a console.

XanderSan

@Swift_:
By proper, he means an actual cart, as opposed to the emulated version that's availible for R4

stealthpengu

"The enemies, the sprites and the backgrounds all have a retro, pixilated feel to it"

They don't have a pixelated "feel", they are made of pixels. It's not like the game subtly evokes the 2D era, it is a 2D game. The enemies are sprites. Sprites are pixels.

Also, I'd say the game's smarter, cleaner, and more well-considered than the vast majority of games out these days. It's kind of hard to call it regressive simply because it side-scrolls.

saintdestroy

"a dude who can best be described as a suitcase."

I think he's more of a toaster. Maybe a lunch box.

The English version of Cave Story that everybody has been playing so far was a fan-made patch done by a group of people in the US that do a lot of that sort of thing. Since they weren't ever part of the original development team (insomuch as one guy can be a team), I wonder if the Wii version of Cave Story is going to have an entirely new translation... on top of its new music and new graphics (which are optional, I am led to believe). In a way, the Wii version is starting to sound like a remake rather than a port.

Spindrift

The save points are little hard disks (remember those?)

I remember that they're called floppy disks, not hard disks.

Jeff Paine

yeah, after the talk about this one (did game club do this title? i forget), im excited too. gotta love how MM9 and the like get us old-schoolers hyped on 2D gaming.

TheIrishNinja

This was probably the best news to come out IMO. I have been trying to get my friends to play Cave Story for years. They just say sounds cool and go back to playing Super Metroid. If you don't buy this game I will come to your house and beat you up. The End :)

chuckbanzai

Hope it's out soon. Can't wait.

Ashurahori

Hmmm... it's a shame they made the music MIDI, but atleast you get to keep it in the .co file Pixel made himself. But I can't wait to try this out in a sit-down-kind-of-way and support Pixel in the process.

Kaizuden

You can talk your way out of the first boss fight? Awesome.

bfwings55

@HikariOblivion: What's proper about forcing this game onto two screens? I think WiiWare is the perfect destination for this gem.

Swift_

Cave Story is awesome, I'd love to see it get a proper DS release after this.

HikariOblivion

Did they say what other controllers it would support?

Syril

@L___E___T: Blasphemy to the highest extent. You can't fully appreciate 2D gaming until you play Cave Story, even for 5 minutes.

frank0127

@bfwings55: it was a freeware game by Pixel.

frank0127

@bfwings55: who would've thought that progressing gameplay meant throwing realistic graphics out the window?

oh wait, that's been nintendo for years now.

frank0127

@Kaizuden: The audio has been described as "work in progress".

Kitsune Sniper

@Krondonian: @superbagman:
cavestory.org has the game in fully translated English for your lieracal needs!

frank0127

All I can say is:

HUZZAH!

Kitsune Sniper

@CaptaiNeNN: i swear to everything sacred i will punch somebody if they ruined cave story.

not that it really CAN be desecrated, but still.

frank0127

@Swift_: I like to have a nice little cartridge. The problems with digital distribution are many.

There's just something endearing about a game contained within a cartridge I love.

HikariOblivion

Balrog is so a toaster.

FrozenHalo

@HikariOblivion: I know what he means, I just think the days of judging plastic packaging as proper are coming to an end.

Swift_

@Swift_: I mean proper as in a full retail release.

I'm sure the second screen would work fine. You do pick up a little portable map console after all. It could work like in Pokemon :D

HikariOblivion

It's a super great game.

serotoninzero

@sm_twinz:So the developer can get some money for the game you've been playing free for years, that's why. Don't be a cheapskate, support the dev.

Foxstar Sixtail

It will also have old graphics AND music selectable.
You can mix and match all four however you like.*

1080Peter

Apparently, this game will support 480p as well as have redone graphics and music.
It will also have the old graphics in music.
You can mix and match them however you like.

[gonintendo.com]

1080Peter

I'm shocked that there are people who can only say "can't wait for this!" and whatnot. Why not go play it now!? It's freeware! I even hear there's a Mac and Linux port! Go!

Do Kesubei

@Kaizuden: I've read that you can switch between the classic soundtrack and the re-worked one - same for graphics

Scorpi

Hmph, never heard of it. Now playing the patched version - pretty fun. I wonder what the wii one looks like in terms of "improved graphics". Screenshots look pretty much the same.

blue bed

@Spindrift: I read somewhere (Joystiq?) that they actually got the rights to use the fan-made translation in this version, with a few grammatical/flow tweaks.

So this will be the same Cave Story we all remember. Man, I'm pumped. I had no idea how branching the storyline was the first time I played through, and totally ended up with the worst weapons and worst ending.

It was AWESOME.

Miksho

@Naturestee: what doesn't, out of curiosity? I thought it was only designed for wiiware titles, which could use the sideways wiimote or the gc controller.

And, yeah, as usual the sideways wiimote seems the best option.

CaptaiNeNN

I'm gonna go on record in saying I don't like the graphics in this game. And I'll tell you exactly why: the sprites look worse than 8-bit but the backgrounds look better than 8-bit. It honestly just doesn't sit well.

I'm sure the game rocks, however. Just my 2 cents (during inflation!)

dowingba

ph, and a fair warning. the one flaw with this game, and some may argue that it is a flaw but i believe it to be, is that the ending is influenced by nonsensical decisions that you would never expect. certain characters die if you get an item at a certain time, ext. so ill warn you right now. when you get near the end of the labrinthe level, you will come opn a part where you see a charater fall past you down into a pit. DO NOT GO SEE IF HE IS OK. just don't do it. you gotta jump the pit. use the red spot on the ground as a mark as when to jump. and then later on when you are going through a bunch of shutter doors with another character following you, when you get into the big room DO NOT TALK TO HER. go to the bottom right and pick up a little shiny item there... then do as you must. if you miss those two things the ending is completely different and you miss a big part of the game. and when a certain building is crumbling, theres a shack. and a bookcase inside this shack. check it. then get ready for the craziest platforming EVER.

SexualHobbit

why is anyone talking about this? go play it. right now. don't ask why it's good. discover it. its amazing. anyone who has ever enjoyed 8 bit gaming should cry with joy, as this is 8 bit at its finest. amazing soundtrack, best pixel art i've ever seen, amazing platforming and action, not to mention the most involving story i've ever seen in an 8 bit game. and its FREE. PLEASE DO YOURSELF A FAVOR AND PLAY THIS GAME!!!

SexualHobbit

@frank0127: Is it better than Braid? I played Braid and decided that it is my favourite game ever, so now I' all for 2D gaming...

pikachumariachi

@frank0127: I'm among the uninitiated. very excited to try it.

CaptaiNeNN

@SexualHobbit: Cave Story is really more in the tradition of 16-bit era games than anything. But yeah, it's good.

saintdestroy

Been trying to get my console friends to play this for a loooong time but to no avail. Hopefully this will get their attention now because it sure as hell has grabbed mine again.

Dudemeister

@frank0127: I think it's progressed past fun to a level of dryness in a lot of cases.

Anyway, realism... some of the most captivating graphical feats (for me. yrmv, to be sure) are the most stylized and unreal, like Okami. that's creativity over power.

CaptaiNeNN

I'll definitely get this, even though I already beat it on the PC.

Furysetzer

One of my favourite games.
Do want.

Arcturian

@TheIrishNinja: I actually gave it a try becuase of game club (and because it was one of the free ones). It didn't end up being picked, it was some robot game. I was bummed out, but happy that the game club introduced me to the game.

Dr.Chocobo

Hell yeah. I hope they change the MIDI music, its horrible compared to the one in the original. I want this game to get as much exposure as possible.

Dr.Chocobo

@sm_twinz: I'm with them. Pixel put a substantial amount of work into the game, and if you enjoy it, you ought to support him. Besides that, if Pixel can see that people are willing to pay money for his game, it may give him reason to get back into game development. This is the general rule of the gamer to developer relationship: Developer makes game, gamer likes game, gamer buys game, developer can afford to make more games. That's why game piracy is such a crime in so many ways. I'm not calling you a software pirate, just saying that good developers ought to get paid for their work, whether they ask you to pay them or not.

PoloMarco

@Kitsune Sniper: So, what? Are you going to fight me?

lochoko

"(although the game has gotten a full graphical overhaul for the Wii)"

Are you sure? I played the PSP and PC and Mac versions and, uh, I don't see any changes here.

Dewgy

yay, pixel gets paid!

gique

You talked your way out of the boss fight? For shame... :|

ThreeLeafIvy

Tried this game out when I heard of the wiimake (sorry). Glad there was an xbox port for it. It's a game that really should be enjoyed with a solid controller and a big tv (didn't have widescreen though which is a pity).

So what exactly is gonna be new with this version? I mean updating the graphics and music might take away a lot of the game's charm.

SS Ymer

Why not just download it for PC >_>...Its free...AND If you get bored, you can hack it. I did.. lol. Cut down my second play thru down to about 10 mins (excluding the talking)

phosphor112

@Kaizuden: "MIDI" is a data interface (Musical Instrument Digital Interface, even), not a derogatory term for low-fi emulated FM synths or waveform sounds.

DorkimusPrime

@Spindrift:
And inside that lunch box, MISSILES!

nifboy

AJ, how is that you've never played Cave Story before now? Considering its fantastic quality and cheap-as-free price tag, you've got no excuse. I'm sorry man, I'm gonna have to take a few points off your gamer license.

Doomstalk

If I remember correctly, choosing to fight that first boss allows you to get a different weapon.

Dantarion

I've played the PC version, just recently started playing the PSP version (same game, just portable...) and I'm sure as hell gonna get the Wii version. I enjoyed the game, the developer deserves some money for such a wonderful creation, and putting it on the WiiWare gives it a much higher level of exposure to people who simply have no clue.

I'm totally embracing this new trend of all these small time people having their games being put out into the world even among people whom aren't very internet savvy. I know cave story is simple to find, but it's not like it has ads, and it's just not widely recognized enough to be linked around so even dad and mom knows what the game is. This is just the kind of attention it needs, and I hope this trend continues.

Viguro

@Kaizuden: Good thing you can choose the original stuff back.
But I kinda liked the music on the official website... sounded better than that Remix Project IMO.

Bokusatsu_Tenshi

@chuckbanzai: I don't have a Wii, but if I could, I'd buy it anyways.

Bokusatsu_Tenshi

@saintdestroy: Had it been 2D or 3D, I think what truly makes this game awesome is the story and Pixel's skills for Game Design.

It has all the elements which makes a game awesome. Game developers nowadays needs to learn some from him.

Bokusatsu_Tenshi

@Krondonian:
[xspblog.com]

Provided a link for a pack with Cave Story fully translated.

Go ahead and get it, because the most awesome part of the game is the story...

Bokusatsu_Tenshi

@sm_twinz: Because Cave Story is always worth your money, and Pixel deserves the money and recognition.

Also, because if it gets famous enough, who knows what comes next? Maybe another Cave Story? Maybe mimiga figures?

I get hard only from the thought... :P

Bokusatsu_Tenshi

@pikachumariachi: I never played Braid.. but yes, it is.

Bokusatsu_Tenshi

@FrozenHalo: And a stylish one for that matter

Bokusatsu_Tenshi

@Kitsune Sniper: Give me a hand with this rock here, will ya?

Bokusatsu_Tenshi

Played it on my PC and on my PSP... I think the DS development was stopped because it didn't have Pixel's permission.

I also get nostalgic when people talk about it, but not only because it reminds me of older games, but mainly because I loved the story so much, I always want to relive it.

Like when a good movie/anime/series ends, and you just wanted to keep watching more and more.

I was really pleased to know the WiiWare version is coming, because Pixel deserves the recognition and... money. :P And I also hope it gets enough fans so I can get some Mimiga figures and plushies...

Made two posts about it:
[xspblog.com]
[xspblog.com]

Those who didn't play it yet, do yourselves a favor and please do! :P

Bokusatsu_Tenshi

i love cave story, now if only gustav kilman would finish "streambolt desero" and "fez" and "noitu love 2" would come to wiiware.

shouryuuken

@pikachumariachi: i have played braid, and i think cave story is better as well.

shouryuuken

@Swift_: we'll with dsi having a wiiware type service.. it wouldnt have to have a case.

shouryuuken

@phosphor112:To support the guy who made the game, so that he might make more games. Of course as you don't seem remotely interested in doing that, stick to your PC version, but when the amount of amazing games begins to slowly taper off, just remember why it's happening.

Foxstar Sixtail

humm every gaming site where i had read this news before seems to forget that Jonny Greenwood , Radiohead guitar player also recomended this game for pc arround a year ago , more info here :
[www.radiohead.com]

Kito1024