Could anyone spare a key for a poor soul?

DukeOfPwn

@DustySword: You raised my hopes and dashed them quite expertly, sir. Good show!

OriginalGman

@DravenX23: Like Mr. Fahey said in his article, in those other games, keeping your Beta goodies would give you advantages detrimental to players who start the game after its released. Not to mention in most of those games they reset your work so that you'll also p(l)ay longer to get it back.

And if none of that matters, "I'm dragging you down here with me" isn't a superb mindset

PuppyGuarder

Let me play the beta and I'll say yes, until then it's no. I know it's childish, but they really dropped the ball with the whole beta key thing. You all may have had a chance to play, but you'd feel differently if you had tried real hard to get a key but wasn't given one.

HepCat

@OriginalGman:
Sorry to disappoint you but that was just the title :( It wasn't the Hollow Bastion we know of. It was still quite brilliant.

DustySword

@MiliardoK:

YOU SHALL NOT JINX ME!!!!

no but seriously i lucked out. turns out if i call and scream my head off at the internet company that apparently owns my soul because they cut my internet in the middle of my download causing the download to give an error message, they seem to get that i wont take a "oh we wont do it again we promise" for an answer. they gave me faster internet for free! still takes a long time (downloaded burnout paradise in a literal 24 hours) but its at least something...

dojita

I've made some pretty good levels, but just in case, I'm approaching this beta as more of a learning tool than the actuall game. That way, even if all of the levels do get wiped, I'll be experienced enough to keep cranking out great levels.

BTW: Is anyone else getting a lot of lag, now that a lot of people are in the beta? At first, it took me about 5-10 seconds to load someone elses level. Now it takes more like 30-40.

@zgrowler2
Ah....nevermind, lol.

Indypunk

Since it aint an MMO and it aint no competition let the folks keep their created stuff.

Wiping it would be like wiping out a research lab just because new staff is arriving.

The more stuff there is left around the more those ideas can be built upon.

Unless there is a technical reason why the data should be wiped which would cause problems for all new users they should just keep it as is.

Witzbold

After the USA Today keys were unleashed the servers slowed a good bit. Maybe when work/school starts back tomorrow it'll ease up (fall break at uni FTW)

zgrowler2

@DukeOfPwn: If the influx of all the Beta levels being kept would be too heavy, they could at least save some of the best/most popular levels.

PuppyGuarder

@DustySword: Someone really made a Hollow Bastion level? God... need this game so bad.

OriginalGman

Keep 'em.

They're basically free extra content at launch.

The LBP community will be thriving come launch day, and that's always a good thing.

... except, I guess, for the kind of people who feel the urge to post "first" comments.

This is, of course, assuming that there isn't a huge variation between beta and final code (and why should there be? the beta came out mere weeks before release).

Grive

Pass. I don't get to keep anything I have worked for in any other Beta. Why should they get to keep theirs?

And don't tell me they are different. I spent hours and hours of my life playing a Beta and once its actually launched all my work is gone. Thats why its called a Beta otherwise you are just getting the game earlier then everyone else.

DravenX23

@PuppyGuarder: your a good person lol

wocyob

@Metal_Slug_Solid: well why not ask.... you never know what people are thinking... so if they felt like keeping the levels... and then all the people started to bitch about it on the forums....

now they have a reason on why the did it.... its almost like a get out of jail free card....

people start to bitch and they slam this poll in there face...

wocyob

Please don't click the link and blindly vote "No" after reading the article, because the "Yes" option is the one that will save the content!

OriginalGman

I don't see why one would vote no considering the Beta players win because their creations don't die, and you win because you have bonus content to explore and become inspired by when you get the game. So people got a head start on ya, it's not a competition, it's a global.. well, regional team effort to create the best stuff you guys can make and share your masterpieces.

I personally don't have a PS3 and don't plan on changing that for a while, but I voted yes because I know there's a PS3 owner out there that won't ever know of this poll, so I shall vote in their stead.

PuppyGuarder

I think that if it causes more problems to allow the beta levels in, they should just do what they said they would do.

DreamoftheEndless

It would be nice to have some of the more complex levels up and running as soon as us newcomers start up the game for the first time. People who have worked really really hard on some levels might lose motivation in remaking them, and some of us would end up missing out on some real gems from now. Sure we'd get a bunch of stuff popping out from the beginning, but I doubt we'll see another LBP take on tetris for a while.

Chao1111

@DustySword: look for PATASACKPON RACE..... its a great level if your a patapon fan

wocyob

The answer is so obvious... Why are they asking?

Metal_Slug_Solid

@Shteve: thats odd... i never got that problem with the beta... worked perfect when i joined other levels

wocyob

Yay! My crap level stays!

Rinaldus

They should wipe the levels out. It would be hell to get all the beta maps working with the game, which is why they were planning to wipe it out in the first place. Plus, if people were forced to make a second version of their level, with the full parts from the full game, no doubt the levels would be much nicer.

It was dumb of them to let people vote like this. Of course, everyone's gonna want to keep the levels, and that means say hello to either a delay or bugs on day one!

DukeOfPwn

They should stay. In the beta I have already played a few great and well designed levels, such as a God of War level, Hollow Bastion, etc as well as the cool things like the calculator and To Zanarkland theme.

If they get rid of all this, lots of work and effort will be gone.

DustySword

I wish my PS3 would realize the internet in this god awful apartment exists, I have a USA today beta key, but what good is it if my PS3 won't connect to download it?

Alas... the fate of a college gamer...

MiliardoK

Really there is some brilliant things out there ? I've installed the beta today, but it is so buggy that I stillhaven't been able to play someone else level. It's always saying: Failed to create game ...

Shteve

me and a friend of mine were just talking about this and i asked him to say vote yes too not take away my levels i did... he kind of got mad and said he didnt want anything in the game when he gets it... and he tried to use WOWs new expac to change my mind... saying it would be unfair if all those people get to keep what they did in the wow WotLK beta... and i told him you cant compare the 2 at all... people put there minds to work to make a great level while they were in the beta and it would suck if it was all taken away... i know i was feeling pretty bummed.... so yea i say we do keep the levels... but only the good once that the company think should stay.... of course this is my opinion

wocyob

@HepCat: This is an idiotic stance to take on it. Yes it's a childish stance and selfish. The fact that you know it is and still posted it defines you as a person.

They should get to keep the creations on the grounds that it provides no advantage over another player. At the same time it will provide hours of additional entertainment for everyone.

seamroy

@DukeOfPwn:
The key is a lie!... They're all just dragging us around, pretending this beta exists to toy with us! All the videos of those awesome levels we saw were all made by the developers!!!

HepCat

@wocyob: I'm having all sorts of problems right now:

-Can't enter a level
-Can't connect to LBP online even though my playstation network works perfectly
-A creation tutorial is completed but for some reason it don't want to leave even if I press start, than press leave tutorial. It's just stuck
-Press on an object in creation mode, a rotating circular icon appears on it, but it gets stuck there, no matter how long I wait, it won't load ...

Shteve

I do not mind which way ends up. I'm used to beta's progress that end up being deleted. Would be nice to have the beta levels there, but I'm sure that it'll be better with more tools in the full game than edit from the beta.

Mike's Stalker

Why would they wipe everything? It's not as though it's a competitive game, it's about creating and sharing. Why would it make sense to get rid of a bunch of stuff?

WEGGLES90

@OriginalGman:
Still, there's nothing to say someone won't make one soon!

DustySword

@dojita:

Well what baffles me is that our school has a deal where comcast (failcast) does internet for all students in apartment housing. For some reason my friend on the 10th floor has perfectly good wifi and ethernet.

Meanwhile in our room, wired or wifi nothing connects. No XBL, no PSN, hell no Kotaku sometimes. And when it does work? Slow as hell.

Currently at said friends room on the 10th floor downloading the beta now. Probably at 50% right now as he plays guitar hero on his wii.

MiliardoK

i have a few spare keys if anyone wants one!

Nightshade Zero

Wait, what's the benefit of wiping the data accrued throughout the beta again? This isn't a traditional game, so it warrants a more cogent argument than simply opting to maintain the status quo.

Intellectualdiot

I see what you did there....I'm stoned....forgive me

Import98

Ive been purposefully avoiding making anything substantial because ive been expecting them to wipe it anyways.

snakepliskin

PvP is Player Vs Player, not Planet. I agree, content should be kept.

Thanks USA Today for the key!! :)

Import98

@Ambiguous Blob 2.0: I don't remember ever reading about paying for the levels at some point. If I take what you said to be entirely valid there is a counter to it: Make a good level and people will play it regardless of when it came out. I would bet a terrible level that everyone knows sucks released day 1 wouldn't come close to the downloads of a level that's expertly crafted say, 6 months down the road. The ranking will level out like any other online game and the good stuff will float to the top (Hey not always true, shit floats occasionally too)

Basing your opinion on whether or not they keep their creations on the fact you didn't get into the beta is still a selfish and idiotic point.

seamroy

@seamroy: Meh... I voted yes anyways so whatever.

HepCat

@DukeOfPwn: I left a message for you of a couple someone just sent me. They might not work, but you might as well give them a try.

HepCat

@VishusBurn: well, i dont have access to my ps3 right now...got an email?

Nightshade Zero

@Nightshade Zero:
I could use a key. PSN: Vishus

VishusBurn

I voted yes because when I finally get to play Little Big Planet I already want levels to play. As much as I would love to get in the beta I really do not want to get in it yet either I want to have that wow moment with the real game not a beta of the game. So even though these levels will not have every thing the real LBP game will have I still want to play them. So I hope they do not get taken off line.

BlackIceJoe

@seamroy: Wrong! I also tried really really hard as well to get a key and have had no luck what so ever! And incase you forgot, the levels created do count for something! Didn't I read that they would be ranked at some point?... Won't the more popular levels be sold at a later date as expandable content? Won't someone who participated in the Beta that has levels available online day one then have an unfair advantage? I think that alone is grounds to wipe that shit clean and start from scratch for everyone!

Whatever the decision I don't really care since I found one of those mini billboards today at school and snagged it (499 of 1000)! So YAY me! All is right with the world at the moment! :p

Ambiguous Blob 2.0

@Nightshade Zero: dowingba@gmail.com

dowingba

@Shteve: hmm that odd.... well it is a beta... well try restarting ur ps3 and keep trying... i did get stuck once when it was teaching me about 3 way switches... well good luck... and maybe the servers are clogged up now... it happened to me once... there was no way for me to enter a room but it only happened for 5 mins then everything was fine after that

wocyob

@Nightshade Zero: I don't have access to mine right now either. I don't get home from work until 6:30 AM, so no hurry.

VishusBurn

ya,like most of you I want the levels to stay also.One more thing has anybody tried to use there code for the Kratos sackboy,just wanted to know because I tried and it says my code is incorrect or invalid and I want to make sure it's not a bad code or something.

ShaggyChrist

@MiliardoK: Hey man, that sucks. If you just can't get it to work, though, maybe you can find it in your heart to pay it forward to a guy with two kids and a wife that would LOVE to take this game for a spin as a family ahead of the release date. :) I tried the USA Today thing 3 times, but I got nothing, even though it said it sent me something (no spam filters, so I know it didn't get filtered), and then it finally changed to "sorry, all gone". Hopefully you can get it working enough to use the code, and hopefully there's more codes out there somewhere. :\

Flux1971

I'm in the beta myself, and I have to say it'd be a real shame to lose all of this. Some levels will be recreated, so won't. A lot of time went into some of them. 20 hours seems about average, but the ones you hear about more than likely too much more then that. Here's hoping the stay, including my stuff.

Lokno

@seamroy: Selfish, yes. As pertaining to what I stated above and "idiotic", no. It was reported here on Kotaku. Fahey, someone posted it.

Whatever the case I don't mind if the levels are kept, however it shouldn't be included with the ranking system, when it's started with the wide release of the game, if that's the case.

Ambiguous Blob 2.0

@zgrowler2: I couldn't connect to online content to play other peoples levels. I am thinking that the USA today user influx added a lot of strain. I really want to see some of the user created levels, and I am all for having them stay around, certainly the good ones.

Morphie

I'm in the beta and I think all of the levels should be wiped. Including mine.

It kills me to see levels hogging up the front page with over ten thousand plays even though most of them involve either a short walk to a malfunctioning rocket conveyance or the name of a popular gaming franchise in the title.

I imagine that everyone will get the rocket bug again when the game ships, but lets let it happen the way it'll happen with a full game. I'm sure fewer people will dive right into create mode when they have the full story mode to draw inspiration from.

Benzak

Keep them but wipe all the data about them out. That way, it'll seem fair and seem like the game has a chunk full of free content available.

Zero_

Damn it. I stopped playing the beta because I didn't want to lose my creations that I would have made. Now if it turns out they keep them on the servers, then I may as well have continued playing it.

Sigh.

But, really... It is good news. There is some great stuff out there.

endekks

I think that anything that hasn't been "hearted" should be flushed, and the rest evaluated by MediaMolecule in order to keep only the best

Inzoum

It's not like everyone didn't know it would get flushed beforehand, and now there'll be self-inflicted crying, all over the internet.

I say flush it all and let the beta-hypers receive righteous justice to their balls.

Cavefish

@Chao1111:

i agree with you. world of color is already perfection.. the dude would probably not remember the exact details, and it might not end up quite as good the second time! or it might be better, but he may as well spend his time making NEW levels, instead of recreating old ones.

the shadow of the littlebigcollosus level is really amazing too. it would be sad if it were lost.

joeloliol

@Nightshade Zero: If you still have extra, just send me a kotaku private message with the key! Thank you!

Calavera302

@Shteve: I was having that problem, but I was connecting trough a VPN to skip the traffic shaping that my ISP was doing. when I connected directly it worked. Slow as hell, but it worked. Time to change the ISP.

Bunn

Fahey you sneak!

Please vote YES! No = no to saving all the stuff
Yes = Yes to saving all the stuff

angry_gamer

@Import98: you don't see what he did there? /sigh

rainofwalrus

nerf sackboy

rainofwalrus

@Zero_: What's 'fair' about not getting credit for an awesome level I made? Half of the whole point about creating and sharing levels (as far as the LBP developers have been repeatedly telling us) is to get attention.

Either it should be a full wipe (which would *actually* be fair, instead of just *seeming* fair), or no wipe at all (which would give all the beta testers a "head start").

Personally, I'm for a wipe.

antialias02

Well just like Spore, I don't see what's wrong with having all these great levels already available.

If anything, KEEP those amazing levels to at least turn away a few of those who'll do nothing but junk. Maybe they'll try to make something worth playing instead.

Liraco

@MiliardoK:

we've got the same deal, but comcast only does our tv. some other silly company (where apparently, actual gamers work) does our internet. comcast makes you pay more and gives you a gigabyte cap. my friend went and payed more for regular speed internet (with comcast) and his works fine. since ive got no money to pay more, im sticking with the internet i have, although calling them and saying that they stopped your download and cost you money and thereby you can report them to the media and various other companies worked for me..

dojita

Voted.
If the guys developing the game sees no reason to scrape those levels, I don't see any disadvantage in doing so.

Maybe some jealous people will ask to delete them... and for what? So that the people who had tons of work making awesome stuff get their work wasted?

Makes no sense. Also, there's no competition with prizes running on who does the best level, so it's not unfair competition too.

Bokusatsu_Tenshi

Wipe it all. The uproar people created over getting into the beta was already rediculous enough listening about.

I would not like to see these people be able to keep their creations for the launch version, espeically if it creates issues. It is not what beta testing is about, and I believe allowing them to bring over their created content just enables the rediculous furor over getting into beta.

Posthaus

I'd hate to see that calculator go to waste.

Vault

@Rinaldus: ...i wanted my crap level to be wiped out. :( sad face sackboy (down down on d-pad)

islandknight

Does anyone happen to have an extra beta code they could send to me? I'm dying to try the game out before the beta ends. :(

cyren00@hotmail.com

MinorSetback

@Nightshade Zero: my psn is pudgedaddy and my email addy is techresponse@yahoo.com if you still have 1 available

pudgedaddy

Why would anyone want to destroy user generated content?

Probably one of the dumbest Ideas i've ever heard.

pieisdelicioushere

Though there will be heartbreak as the Beta levels get wiped I know exactly why this must be...

The Beta is old code. It's that simple. Things move quickly in coding, especially towards release. It is a certainty that a large percentage of tools and items have been changed, modified, or totally re-written since the the Beta code was put in the can.

This means that a good percentage of Beta levels will not work as they were designed, or worse, break the game totally. This is especially true of the more complicated wonders, such as the calculator.

This is why the Beta levels need to go. It's sad but it's far better than not being able to enjoy them as intended or having a broken game.

Ohnhai

can some one email me a beta code.... Plz plz plz plz

my email is Dotty.dottydot@yahoo.com

Ledrus