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New Monster Hunter 3 Screens
Posted by Adam Barenblat at 10:20 PM on October 10, 2008
Yes, it can use the classic controller and remember, this is for the Wii. You would almost forget looking at these screens. Monster Hunter 3 (tri) is one of the most visually appealing Wii games yet. The game is playable at TGS, if you're willing to wait in line. As for the rest of us, we'll just enjoy these screens for now.

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AnonymityRocks
Posted 11:21 PM 10/10/08
ALso, online play and 2 PLAYER SPLIT SCREEN COOP confirmed.
Monsters now also have stamina like the hunters and may attempt to dine on other beasts to boost it during a fight. Ecosystem AI improved, beasts hunt other beasts, sleep, play, attempt to flee when wounded, may hunt you across different areas etc.
Loading sadly seems as frequent as on PSP/PS2 but it's of course much much speedier so it's not bad.
Torches will be needed in dark areas, a first for the series like the underwater hunting.
Game is at just over 30% completion.
AnonymityRocks
Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.
Posted 11:21 PM 10/10/08
@Poo_and_Weeeee: try fighting them. Kut Kus are funny looking fuckers but you screw around and they'll kill you...fast, especially in G rank.
Peck Peck Peck... "oh what's that...you're dizzy? Kut Ku will help you"....tail smack! "you ok?...still a little wobbly, wait..." running charge! you dead.
Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.
TitillatedOcelot
Posted 11:19 PM 10/10/08
@Mr. Tambourine Man: As in "selling like..."
TitillatedOcelot
tmsoftworks
Posted 11:17 PM 10/10/08
@Đipic: Try it online with people. Thats where it shines especially. It gives me that old PSO feel.
tmsoftworks
Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.
Posted 11:15 PM 10/10/08
@ChaoticInfinityX: as opposed to PSP? which has even less power than a PS2...and yet MH plays and looks great on it? Ok...whatever...
Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.
AnonymityRocks
Posted 11:15 PM 10/10/08
Also, gameplay video, yes the guy sucks, it's from TGS.
[www.gamekyo.com]
AnonymityRocks
Đipic
Posted 11:13 PM 10/10/08
Hope it's better than the PSP ones. I picked one up to see what the big deal was after seeing how well they were doing in Japan and was pretty disappointed. I should have read reviews first. :/
Đipic
Poo_and_Weeeee
Posted 11:12 PM 10/10/08
Some of those Wyvern designs are awful.
Poo_and_Weeeee
AnonymityRocks
Posted 11:12 PM 10/10/08
This is the first time the series is moving forward in a LONG time ChaoticInfinityX, that should push your Wii hatred aside if you really enjoy this series and aren't just being an fucking stupid asshat as usual.
Anyway, lots of great videos floating around the web:
[www.gamekyo.com]
While the official website has been updated to show the remote controls which look quite damn intuitive.
[www.capcom.co.jp]
AnonymityRocks
Mr.Sad
Posted 11:11 PM 10/10/08
please be good please be good please be good
Mr.Sad
Kirril
Posted 11:11 PM 10/10/08
The town shots look especially nice, the art style is really impressive.
I had no idea what the Monster Hunter series was about until I saw the low-res trailer for MH3, but it looks like an interesting concept. Hopefully it plays as good as it looks.
Kirril
elronathon
Posted 11:10 PM 10/10/08
Those environments look really appealing to mem I'm always drawn into worlds with a bit of sun and blue-sky.
elronathon
Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.
Posted 11:10 PM 10/10/08
Last I read, yesterday, the wait to play MH3 was 4 and a half hours long. Worse is expected on Saturday when the show opens to the public.
Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.
Mr. Tambourine Man
Posted 11:09 PM 10/10/08
Why is kotaku posting screenshot of hotcakes?
Mr. Tambourine Man
ChaoticInfinityX
Posted 11:09 PM 10/10/08
Such an excellent series... wasted on an such a limiting system.
ChaoticInfinityX
Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.
Posted 11:42 PM 10/10/08
@ChaoticInfinityX: my bad...what's your point again? Actually it was a good business move for Capcom considering that MH isn't as popular anywhere in the world as it is in Japan. Common sense says put it on the console that would give it the most exposure and the best chance to bring in new fans. PS3 could have worked but it would have been expensive as hell to produce. Same as 360 except to release on 360 would be a uphill battle in Japan considering the limited userbase. (although MS should have put a bag of money on the table to get it anyway)
So Wii makes the most sense. Also...again...considering Nintendo has proven the Wii is a capable machine when developers give a shit, which thankfully, some are starting to. Personally, if I had to choose, if it had to be on a console, I'd rather have it on PSN. Especially after seeing WipeoutHD. But I'm happy with a Wii version. Proves that the console can perform despite idiots and dickhead rants to the contrary.
Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.
Ropa-to
Posted 11:41 PM 10/10/08
@EmeraldDragon: Gamecube was the lowest powered system of the last generation, PS2's 2nd and Xbox is highest powered system of the last generation.
Ropa-to
AnonymityRocks
Posted 11:41 PM 10/10/08
@ChaoticInfinityX:
This is the first time the series is moving forward in a LONG time ChaoticInfinityX, that should push your Wii hatred aside if you really enjoy this series and aren't just being an asshat as usual. All the new features, the returning online play, split screen coop, better AI, better fighting, and for the first time redone graphical assets for most all of the world instead of reusing/downscaling PS2 assets they've been doing since MH1. Even if you don't buy this for lack of a Wii, the next installment, whatever system it lands on, will be a better game thanks to the already amazing part 3.
AnonymityRocks
Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.
Posted 11:33 PM 10/10/08
@AnonymityRocks: awesome so we can dive into Monster Hunter Unite and get our fill and then play MH3 when it's ready in fall/winter 09. I'm all for it.
Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.
Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.
Posted 11:31 PM 10/10/08
@Poo_and_Weeeee: last I heard, the tachi, sword and shield, gun, dual blades, etc etc all made it into the game. Anyways...look at the Congolala. That's another funny looking fucker and he farts on you and throws poo from his butt at you. Then he'll shake his belly and laugh at you. Yeah, but you screw around, and he'll beat you to death.
Sounds like you know Monster Hunter. If so, then you know that you can be killed at anytime by anything if you fuck about.
Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.
ChaoticInfinityX
Posted 11:29 PM 10/10/08
@Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.: Portable derivatives obviously always take a drop in presentation to accommodate, so lets try to keep the same leveled playing field here. If you wanna go portables, then consider the heeping pile of shit that would be MH:DS.
No, I'm talking home consoles here. They started working MH3 well before MHF/MHF2 was showing the extremely positive sales its currently known for and it was originally multi-platform. At some point between the MHF craze and the Wii craze Capcom got little "$$" in their eyes and decided to make it exclusive.
This of course before their altruistic revelation to make their future titles multi-platform.
ChaoticInfinityX
Quicksilver4648
Posted 11:29 PM 10/10/08
It does look really good for being a Wii title.
Quicksilver4648
EmeraldDragon
Posted 11:29 PM 10/10/08
@ChaoticInfinityX: Or perhaps as opposed to the PS2, the lowest powered system of the last generation?
EmeraldDragon
EmeraldDragon
Posted 11:28 PM 10/10/08
I can't wait for this to come out.
EmeraldDragon
Poo_and_Weeeee
Posted 11:27 PM 10/10/08
@tmsoftworks: Most reviews of the PSP ones are horribly wrong, most reviwers got up to the Elder Kut Ku, got their arses kicked, and then went to write the review.
Poo_and_Weeeee
Kuro
Posted 11:26 PM 10/10/08
@Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.: This is exactly why I'll pass on every TGS from last year on out. Ridiculous wait times >.<
Kuro
Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.
Posted 11:25 PM 10/10/08
@Đipic: It's been said for years right here in the hollowed halls of Kotaku. Monster Hunter is NOT a pick up and play game for noObs. Either you get it or have the desire to "get it" or you don't. Monster Hunter is truly one of those few games where it really does come down to the skill of the player. I've seen a lot of friends buy Monster Hunter but gave up after a couple of weeks because they just didn't have the chops. They just kept doing stupid shit...getting killed...getting team mates killed. Refusal to learn how to hunt.
It's all good though. It removes the fodder so the real hunters can hunt.
Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.
Poo_and_Weeeee
Posted 11:25 PM 10/10/08
@Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.: I'd say Kut Ku looks waaay better than some of them. They look like parrots. Chicken >> Parrot.
Where's the Long Swords though? I'll be livid if there's no TDS, how will I get called a "nub" online otherwise?
Poo_and_Weeeee
ChaoticInfinityX
Posted 11:57 PM 10/10/08
@AnonymityRocks: An 'asshat as usual'? Your supposed level of familiarity with me is concerning, but that's an issue for another time.
No.. this isn't Wii-hate, it's just an opinion I decided to state because I don't agree with the console exclusivity decision. I probably would've said something just as unpopular to you people if it was multi-platform but region exclusive. I hope that when you are done reciting what sounds like the 'features' off the back of the game's case that you would accept that it was just an opinion.
Last time I checked, it was still ok to post those here.
ChaoticInfinityX
badmoogle
Posted 11:50 PM 10/10/08
I know it sounds stupid but i actually saw a dream that i was inside this game...:p
Damn i have to buy a Wii soon!
badmoogle
Benjo
Posted 11:48 PM 10/10/08
@ChaoticInfinityX: Personally, I can't wait for this game. Classic Controller support is awesome, and Co-op is even better.
Benjo
ChaoticInfinityX
Posted 11:45 PM 10/10/08
@EmeraldDragon: I don't deny that the Wii is a superior device in several aspects to the PS2. As for last generation though, without getting too technical, I will only go as far as saying I believe the GCN only surpassed the PS2 in graphics. Other than that, the medium was extremely limiting as well as the virtually non-existent online support. I won't get into the controller because that's just a matter of preference.
As for this new generation, the Wii is at the bottom of that totem pole. While the graphics for it aren't bad (the team at Capcom know how to use what little they have to make very beautiful work evident in their success with MHF), it's obvious with games like Capcom's own Dead Rising that it can only do so much. And as for the online, well... it's hard to argue that the "Friend-code" isn't the best network solution.
ChaoticInfinityX
shockwaver
Posted 12:21 AM 11/10/08
@elronathon: Bah! You'll get grey and brown and you like it! Back in my day, we had one color, GREEN! AND WE LOVED IT GOD DAMN IT!
shockwaver
Casual_Hardcore
Posted 12:19 AM 11/10/08
@Ropa-to: That's incorrect, sir! The Gamecube surpasses the PS2 in terms of performance. That's why RE4 looks a lot better on GC than PS2 for instance.
Casual_Hardcore
CockroachMan
Posted 12:17 AM 11/10/08
How can the same Capcom do something cool like this and that crappy Dead Rising port at the same time?
CockroachMan
ChaoticInfinityX
Posted 12:15 AM 11/10/08
@Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.: Unfortunately they screwed themselves with that crappy mini-disc and the lack-of-online support (I know PSO was online, but seriously... that series wasn't capable of promoting and supporting the feature alone). I was a solid fan of the system up until RE4. After that, it was all downhill for the GCN.
ChaoticInfinityX
AnonymityRocks
Posted 12:07 AM 11/10/08
@ChaoticInfinityX: and i posted mine :D
AnonymityRocks
Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.
Posted 12:03 AM 11/10/08
@Ropa-to: sorry, but that is incorrect. PS2 was the least powerful console. It has already been reported that Nintendo downplayed the specs of the GC but make so mistake, GC had more power under the hood.
Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.
elronathon
Posted 12:43 AM 11/10/08
@shockwaver: I had an Amstrad. I feel your pain.
elronathon
Shandy706
Posted 12:38 AM 11/10/08
I'll probably be picking this up. Hopefully it turns out to be an excellent game.
Graphically it's above average for a wii game. Still looks awful after finishing up a session on my PS3 or 360 though.
Shandy706
iliekpie
Posted 12:27 AM 11/10/08
I have bought a Wii game since SSBB, this will be nice to break the cycle of horrid games the Wii has produced lately. I personally, cannot wait!
iliekpie
AnonymityRocks
Posted 12:47 AM 11/10/08
@CockroachMan: different teams, budget, time
AnonymityRocks
AnonymityRocks
Posted 12:47 AM 11/10/08
@Shandy706: loooool
AnonymityRocks
AnonymityRocks
Posted 12:47 AM 11/10/08
@Shandy706: Awful would be your face, not this game's looks :D@iliekpie: Lol, people say that for like 5 games a month lol
AnonymityRocks
Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.
Posted 12:45 AM 11/10/08
@ChaoticInfinityX: what are you talking about? Dead Rising on Wii is a bad example for the simple fact that the game is being ported from the 360 AND it's not even using a new engine. It's the damn RE4 engine which is...what...5 years old? You make these comments trying to sound intelligent but they still don't make any sense. Dead Rising is a perfect example of a capcom being lazy. Or have you forgotten that development on any platform only gets better as time goes on? Explain Galaxy or Brawl or Metroid Prime3. These are all first/second generation efforts.
Hell, even your assessment of the GC in comparison to the PS2 is retarded. "GC only surpassed PS2 in terms of graphics..." ONLY? As if that's not that big of a deal. The GC storage medium still provided 1.5 GBs of storage per disc and could have been brought to 8gb but Nintendo decided not too because most games didn't need more than one disc anyway. Matsushita actually had the discs ready since they developed the tech for Nintendo. The reality has always been that development gets better on any hardware. Wii has had a hard time of it because the development community as a whole wanted to act like spoiled prima donnas like they were too good to develop for it. Using every dumb ass excuse in the book..."3rd party games don't sell on Wii....no one can make money on Nintendo hardware but Nintendo..." Idiots, upset because they pushed bullshit on Nintendo hardware and people saw the superior Nintendo product and ignored the 3rd party trash.
Asshat comments trying to sound intelligent?...yeah...@AnonymityRocks...I see your point.
Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.
Revenge_of_Nekojin
Posted 1:17 AM 11/10/08
I love all the people who are acting shocked that Wii games can have great graphics. They must have all ignored Super Mario Galaxy.
It's because Nintendo doesn't regulate all the shit titles that come out on the goddamn thing. Shovelware gives the system a horrible reputation and Nintendo doesn't do a goddamn thing about it.
Revenge_of_Nekojin
shouryuuken
Posted 1:17 AM 11/10/08
@Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.: as well as being the most awesome, i think it was the dreamcast that was the least powerful system of the last gen.
shouryuuken
Vysion
Posted 1:14 AM 11/10/08
@AnonymityRocks: Though I am EAGERLY awaiting this title, I am not looking forward to putting away a weapon to hold a torch. Anyone got duct tape?
Vysion
dakimstar
Posted 1:14 AM 11/10/08
@Casual_Hardcore: And also the fact that RE4 was a port.
But technically the GC was the middle-spec of the last gen.
dakimstar
Revenge_of_Nekojin
Posted 1:13 AM 11/10/08
@ChaoticInfinityX: All I have to say is...
QQ more, fanboy.
Revenge_of_Nekojin
WhitePoop
Posted 1:06 AM 11/10/08
These are Wii graphics??? Huh?
WhitePoop
Casual_Hardcore
Posted 1:39 AM 11/10/08
@dakimstar: True. But Capcom had to sacrifice much of the realtime lighting and also reduce the complexity of the geometry to make it work on the PS2. Check this comparison of RE4 on GC and PS2:
+ Watch video
Casual_Hardcore
mariospants
Posted 1:39 AM 11/10/08
WTF? Wow! It's like... they took a really good PS2 game and ported it! Color me impressed. I sense a must-buy for my Wii...
mariospants
Tiber
Posted 1:35 AM 11/10/08
@Ropa-to: *Buzz* Wrong. The correct answer is the PS2. Thanks for playing. Good night everybody.
The Gamecube was a good bit more powerful than PS2, and close in performance to the Xbox. Try looking at the reviews where they compare graphics of a game on all 3 systems. I know IGN used to compare multiplatform games.
@ChaoticInfinityX: Who really cares what console is the most powerful? If MH was really a series about graphics, why wasn't the original on Xbox? I can understand your explanation on why the Gamecube wouldn't have been right, but the Xbox didn't have the problems you mentioned. That had good online support, and better graphics.
The graphics for this game are pretty good, though you make it sound as if they were putting it on the Atari. This series is not about pushing technical boundaries anyway, it's about cooperative play. If you want to argue about the limitations of Nintendo's online vs., say, Xbox live, that's perfectly legitimate. As it is now though, all this talk about graphics and a console's power is starting to sound like a pissing contest, and I'm getting sick of it. So if I'm starting to sound like a fanboy, that's why.
Also, please don't use Dead Rising Wii as an example for anything. The game is being done by a small team, using an existing engine which was not made for hundreds of enemies (something even the PS2 was capable of). Basically, Capcom isn't even trying with that game, and it does not reflect upon the Wii's capabilities.
Tiber
AnonymityRocks
Posted 1:29 AM 11/10/08
No company ever regulates that and the most popular systems (see all the playstation iterations except 3) always get those, why expect nintendo to do that, what company ever says no to money? As you say the Wii showcased grand graphics aeons ago with Galaxy, it's not Nintendo's fault people somehow got dumbed between generations and now think Imagine Babiez is all the Wii can do.
AnonymityRocks
AnonymityRocks
Posted 1:52 AM 11/10/08
Yes, except it looks twice as good as the PS2 games with most of the assets redone for once, even better than Frontier on the PC. So, not much like a PS2 at all, haha.
AnonymityRocks
muckamuck
Posted 1:47 AM 11/10/08
@Revenge_of_Nekojin: True. Super Mario Galaxy is one of a few examples. This kind of visual quality isn't a standard for the Wii, so people are still going to be surprised. In a couple more years, we might see its power get pushed even further.
As for shovelware, there's money and accessibility involved. Some parent is bound to dish out the cash for Ninjabread Man or Imagine Party Babyz for their unsuspecting, impressionable, mindless child.
muckamuck
EmeraldDragon
Posted 2:15 AM 11/10/08
@Ropa-to: Umm, no. Not by a long shot. The PS2 was sadly under powered and had the worst graphics. Look up the specs.
@ChaoticInfinityX: As I said to Ropa, do some research. The GC way out powered the PS2. Like Sony with the PS3, Nintendo assumed more power was the way to get consumers, and they were proven wrong.
Dead Rising Wii's main problem isn't it's limits, its the fact people are judging it against the 360 version isntead of what it can do on its own. Not to mention assuming the kioskes are good representations of the final build.
And Developers don't have to use the Friend codes. Nintendo doesn't even really use them. Stop whining about them. Nintendo's online isn't LIVE and it never will be.
EmeraldDragon
ChaoticInfinityX
Posted 2:41 AM 11/10/08
Well it's clear where the fanboys stand. I had a feeling my original comment would spark some conversation, but it's getting harder and harder to stay civil the fanatics come to the party with the flamethrowers pre-lit.
They should really put disclaimers on these Wii related articles... these Wii/Nintendo fanboys fight back like this is some kind of holy war.
@Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.: You clearly followed the GCN to level deeper than even most core gamers... so congrats to you for the memorization of useless Nintendo knowledge. I don't know where you pulled the possibility of "8GB discs" out of, but it must've been painful. And as for the reasoning of why they didn't use this "supposed" option... it doesn't seem like it was a good one since a fair amount of 3rd party games for it had to span 2 discs. That's especially true for the Capcom library on GCN. Considering the system is basically dead, let's just use real facts when discussing it from now on instead of "what could have been." And maybe you shouldn't use 1st party games as your only examples of good games for a system while also stating that people only say "3rd party games don't sell on Wii....no one can make money on Nintendo hardware but Nintendo"... it kinda sends mixed signals.
@Tiber: The reason I didn't bring up the Xbox within my earlier comparisons was because the system was never related to the series, therefore it didn't seem relevant. I'm well aware that the system outperformed both the PS2 and GCN in graphics as well as online support, but seeing as the game was conceived on the PS2 and has only been on PS2 & PSP, and most of the responses from others above were clearly Nintendo-centric... I kept it as such.
ChaoticInfinityX
Brendar
Posted 2:39 AM 11/10/08
I think these screens show exactly how little effort most devs put into graphics for Wii games. Resident Evil 4 is the best looking Wii game thus far and it's a Gamecube game.
Brendar
KillerBee
Posted 2:33 AM 11/10/08
So. Much. Bloom.
KillerBee
badmoogle
Posted 2:57 AM 11/10/08
@Shandy706: "Graphically it's above average for a wii game. Still looks awful after finishing up a session on my PS3 or 360 though."
The only thing i find awful is your taste in art.
badmoogle
UltimatePancakeSensation
Posted 3:05 AM 11/10/08
Those screens look beautiful for Wii screens! I would have played it even with PSX graphics, so this is a real treat!
UltimatePancakeSensation
Kaonazhie
Posted 3:31 AM 11/10/08
I'm suprised MS hasn't bought MH considering how popular it is in Japan, well, maybe they tried.
Kaonazhie
synapticflow
Posted 3:43 AM 11/10/08
such a blah blah blah.... wasted on a poop poop poop.
The Wii is fun and this game looks good. Deal with it or don't.
synapticflow
Tiber
Posted 4:10 AM 11/10/08
@ChaoticInfinityX: I think the problem is the idea that people who defend the Wii are automatically fanboys. What is a fanboy? It's someone who is so devoted to one console that they brush off any negatives about a console, and look for any excuse, no matter how irrelevant, to look down on all other consoles. I think it's gotten to the point where people are engaging in the same behavior as a fanboy about the Wii, only in reverse. They ignore any positives of the Wii ("it's just waggle") and use stupid, pointless arguments to mock the Wii. A fanboy who trolls in a post about another console is rightly mocked; yet somehow, there's no problems with posting just to complain about the Wii (why do people feel the need to tell us they sold their Wii in every Wii post?). So if being annoyed at all of this and becoming a bit over-reactive to Wii-bashing makes me a fanboy, then so be it. In which case, feel free to ignore anything and everything I say; because, as a fanboy, I am incapable of logical thoughts, and am inherently wrong.
Striderhayasa brought up a good point, that the Wii's weaker graphics are a big negative to you, but the Gamecube's greater graphics apparently were no big deal. Would you be complaining if MH3 were 360 exclusive? Combined with the fact that Capcom is a 3rd party company, so what console it was on in previous generations means nothing, the Xbox(360) is relevant to the discussion. The Wii is implicitly being compared to the 360 anyway.
I can only think of a few Gamecube games that used multiple discs, REmake, RE4 and ToS. As for the whole 3rd party sales thing, didn't Nintendo themselves put out a nice little graph about that?
Lastly, if you knew your original statement would have this reaction, yet you say you only wish it weren't Wii exclusive, then why didn't you just say "Such an excellent series...if only it weren't Wii exclusive", and avoid this whole thing altogether. If you go to say something knowing it will be misinterpreted, and then say it anyway, you only have yourself to blame if your prediction comes true.
Tiber
mahjustin
Posted 4:38 AM 11/10/08
I have a problem believing that the Wii can output graphics of this caliber. I also notice there is no hud or any type of onscreen information.
This is probably high res marketing hype as per usual for most game screenshots that are released (on any system)
I remember how people were ga-ga over the nice Red Steel screens when they first came out. I would like to see some real screens.
mahjustin
AnonymityRocks
Posted 5:18 AM 11/10/08
Gameplay videos from TGS I should add.
AnonymityRocks
AnonymityRocks
Posted 5:18 AM 11/10/08
I've posted the trailer and gameplay videos in the first page. Watch them. It looks even better.
AnonymityRocks
Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.
Posted 5:08 AM 11/10/08
@ChaoticInfinityX: wow you really are an ass. The 8GB disks were something that went under consideration based on the Panasonic Q. Look it up jerk off. also, of course I followed the Gamecube, just like I followed the Xbox and the PS2. Check this out genius since you know so damn much..[glowystarman.tripod.com]
While you're at it you can read this too...
[gamecube-stat.blogspot.com]
Real
facts
jerk
Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.
fastmb
Posted 5:35 AM 11/10/08
@Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.:
WOOT a Popo can kill you??? lawl
fastmb
postulio71
Posted 5:25 AM 11/10/08
I remember Red steel ads. I was gonna buy a Wii for that game alone, with the motion control. I have some martial arts exp behind and katana was fun to learn some basic forms and strikes.
A friend of mine bought a Wii and this game and we tried it out. I'll bet you can figure out how that went.
So yeah, high res marketing makes a pretty show. But when was the last time a Big Mac looked as good in the wrapper as it does on the menu.
postulio71
GenRedLeader
Posted 6:22 AM 11/10/08
Holy GOD!!! :O My ... Jaw... Can't... Close... Anymore... This looks INCREDIBLE!! Now... Remind me again why the Wii can't do RE5...? 9_9
GenRedLeader
ChaoticInfinityX
Posted 6:12 AM 11/10/08
@Tiber: I don't have any problem with core gamers/fanboys, being one myself. But what you're describing are what I consider "fanatics". The ones that live and die by a particular brand. In my opinion the most common, and most outspoken, are the Nintendo fanatics. They are the ones that can't handle criticism without busting a vessel. And as easy as the Wii-mote is to ridicule, I clearly stated I wouldn't remark on it as it was a matter of preference.
As for the Xbox stuff... I didn't think NOT commenting on a system would've been interpreted to be just as bad as commenting on it negatively or something... so if you need me to humor you on it.. then ok. If the next Monster Hunter game were exclusive to the 360, I would be annoyed by that as well, because I don't have a 360 (nor plan to get one). I obviously wouldn't have made the same comment because it just wouldn't apply. At this point though... seeing multiplatform games go exclusive or vice versa between 360/PS3 is common. I would be more excited about it though on 360/PS3 because I believe the output would be greater... regardless of how big the production value is or isn't. I omitted the 360 from previous discussion because I thought linage of a series actually had merit (Like how Tekken has been Sony/Arcade exclusive till T6 - not counting that GBA release.)
Personally, I'll take sides with the Sony camp. It's not like the PS3 hasn't been under epic scrutiny. Hell, most of the gaming community was ready to sweep it under the rug a year ago calling it an unrecoverable failure. Obviously not the case now...
Of the games I own for the GCN... PSO 1/2 & PSO3, pretty much all the REs (0-4), ToS, Baten Kaitos, Killer 7... I'm sure there are more, but those were the first few that came to mind. Nintendo's graphs were pretty suspect during last E3 or so, where they limited it by some margin or date.. I don't remember though.
When originally posted my comment I didn't think I'd have to spell out both that I was annoyed it was an exclusive and that I saw it as a limit to the potential of the series, just to cater to the Wii-community. I made a comment that would be an actual discussion... I didn't expect the flame war that resulted but it is what it is.
ChaoticInfinityX
Tiber
Posted 8:21 AM 11/10/08
@ChaoticInfinityX: Alright then, I'll accept that. I have absolutely no problem with any other consoles, personally. However, I've grown up on Nintendo, and Nintendo themselves haven't let me down in any significant fashion, so they're my first choice. However, what I see is that a Sony fanboy will bash Microsoft, or vice versa, and they'll get knocked down. Then, those same people who fought against the fanboy(s) will bash the Wii, and somehow the people defending it are fanboys. I think I have yet to see a Nintendo fanboy bash another console this generation, except perhaps after they feel they've been insulted. I got annoyed, and people who are annoyed can come off the wrong way, and sometimes to the wrong people. To me at least, it's not so much THAT the Wii is being criticized, it's that everybody is doing it in exactly the same way. Ever have to hear about politics from someone who's just parroting everything they've seen in their party's commercials without doing any research? It's like that.
I mentioned the Xbox as an argument that if the series were about pushing technical boundaries, they could have developed the first one for the Xbox. Also, when thinking of what MH3 could be, you or others were probably using 360 games as a standard for comparison. Ok then, the PS3 is your console of choice. Then replace my argument about if it were 360 exclusive with one about if it were PS3 exclusive. Exclusivity tends to only be an issue when it's exclusive to the console you don't have/don't care about. Capcom, however, has never been particularly loyal, they follow the money. Finally, if the game were made on the PS3 or the 360 with the exact same production values, it would look...pretty much the same. It's difficult, if not impossible, to get a greater result when putting in the same amount of effort, unless some external variable has changed.
Ok, so you gave some more examples of 2 disk Gamecube games than I remembered. The first PSO was only one disk though. And that still accounts for like 1% of all the games though.
Also, I don't know that "cater" is the right word, since Wii owners are kind of the majority. It's more that they didn't cater to you (I'm saying that in a purely logical fashion, not as an insult). Yes, the graphics could be better if it were on the HD console. But it doesn't seem like they dumbed the game down any; in fact, they've added new features. I would also bet money that the developers of the game would see time constraints as the biggest limit to the game's potential, not the console. There will always be something you want to add (just ask peter Molyneux), but can't.
Tiber
ChaoticInfinityX
Posted 8:14 AM 11/10/08
@Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.: I guess I touched a nerve with you because every new reply is more aggressive name calling and less actual substance, but at this point seeing you squirm is fun. The Gamecube variation known as the Panasonic Q was basically just a concept piece. It sold commercially for all of about year before it's production got axed. Oh... and just because the Q was DVD capable, didn't mean the Gamecube game medium was going to be DVDs. They only made the system in the first place because of some deal with Panasonic. And at that point, even the PS2 wasn't using many if any dual-layer DVDs. So yeah... 8GB Gamecube game discs was a no go from the beginning. Nice try though.
As for those links you gave me... (The first being pretty biased if it's giving 'best of' lists at the bottom. And both being relatively outdated -- e2004 and 2006 respectively.) I don't know what the point was in sharing since the 'real' comparative data basically defended everything I've said up until this point about the GCN and PS2. I've already agreed Xbox was superior last gen so that goes without saying now. (Happy Tiber?) The only statements I've made about the GCN were that it had superior graphics over the PS2 (Check), the medium of 1.5GB mini-discs (Check), and that it had crap online-support (Check). And neither one mentions the Q. I would've hope your source for 'facts' was something more credible than some guy's personal tripod page... but whatever.
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mrwumasta
Posted 9:17 AM 11/10/08
Monster Hunter is based on online and that is the problem I have with this being on the Wii. Nintendo has stated before that online is not a priority of them and that is why we are stuck with some shitty friend code system that reminds me of a password from Metroid. If this was on a system with a decent online backbone, we could expect to see some awesome strides forward in the console MMO department. As it stands this game will be good, just not as epic as it could have been on 360 or PS3.
That being said I want a Monster Hunter game where everyone gets together to take down Shadow of the Colossus style beasts. That would be most awesome.
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ChaoticInfinityX
Posted 9:53 AM 11/10/08
@Tiber: No one, especially this PS3 'fanboy', has bashed the 360 so that's a moot point. And I've established how I'd react if it were 360 versus PS3 instead of Wii... so lets not go down that slippery slope any more than we have to.
As for PSO on GCN, my mistake if the game really is 1 disc. I was doing it off of memory as I am at work and unable to check the case personally.
By 'cater' I meant I wouldn't alter or suppress my opinion solely for the Wii-community. But seriously, grammer checks?
Anyway, to get back to my original point which I think is still lost on a few, my comment was about the potential of the game itself. It was about how I felt the comparative potential limits of the game on the Wii versus it's limits had it been a solid 360 and/or PS3 game (or 360/PS3 and Wii game). The reality is that Capcom attributed the 'dev costs' of the game on the PS3 being 'too high' to be their reason for the switch. Going back to what I said before, they got the $$ in their eyes and jumped ship. I understand it, I've accepted it... but I don't agree with it.
Either way, I'd like to extend my appreciation to you, Tiber, for engaging in actual discussion. You've helped make this slow work day go by a little faster.
ChaoticInfinityX
AnonymityRocks
Posted 5:19 PM 11/10/08
And yet the last three games (at least) had no online at all. The PSP can do online decently, heck that's PSN also, and yet they didn't add it for that, not until the feature where the PS3 will allow you to play PSP local games online, which probably won't work 100% for most of those games, Monster Hunter already had problems with the local syncing...
Anyway, they've added online back for this version and I'm sure they wouldn't do it if they felt they couldn't do it right, they had no reason to force themselves to considering the three PSP games don't have online and sold like hot cakes anyway.
Also, SPLIT SCREEN MUTLIPLAYER :)
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HELLSRIDER
Posted 6:06 PM 11/10/08
I dont care what people will say this does look like 360 grapphics, it does and you can argue all you want cause in my opinion they do look like 360 graphics and I own a 360 plus halo 3 and I have played gears so you cant say I dont know how good 360 games look.
Note I never said they look as good as those games but that it does look like the game was made for the 360, I just hope we can get some gameplay vids on highres so we can actually see how good it looks.
HELLSRIDER
HELLSRIDER
Posted 6:02 PM 11/10/08
@ChaoticInfinityX: No PS3 Fanboy has bashed the 360? are you kidding me they always argue about how they hate the 360 because of the RRoD and about paying for LIVE, even though its way better to pay for LIVE than not paying and getting the internet connections of the ps3 or wii. Now you said before you touched a nerve on Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live, could it be he got angry because you actually said "so congrats to you for the memorization of useless Nintendo knowledge. I don't know where you pulled the possibility of "8GB discs" out of, but it must've been painful". Then you also said "every new reply is more aggressive name calling and less actual substance" even though you first started to get him angry by saying his nintendo information is useless even though what he said were facts and your were the one saying useless things to piss him off.
HELLSRIDER
ChaoticInfinityX
Posted 3:53 AM 12/10/08
@HELLSRIDER: When I said no PS3 fanboys bashed the 360... did you really think I meant ever? EVERY FANBOY HAS BASHED ANOTHER SYSTEM AT ONE POINT OR ANOTHER...IT'S LIKE THE INITIATION INTO BEING A FANBOY IN THE FIRST PLACE!! (Sorry for the caps, but at this point it seems that if I don't spell everything out, someone takes something simple out of context)
No... when I said "no one, especially this PS3 fanboy, has bashed the 360".. I was obviously referring to posts within this particular thread. The main replies, barring Tiber, have been Nintendo vs Sony. The only other mentions of the Xbox were about the original being the true superior from the last generation. That's it.
As for 'touching a nerve with Strider'... I don't know why you are trying to come to his aid so late in the game, but if you look closely, he took the aggressive stance first. I kept my responses sarcastic but factual. He came at me with hypothetical info or reworded facts that basically reiterated what I said in the first place. As for my comments... I really don't want to explain the concept of sarcasm to you. To quote your friend Strider, "Look it up!"
If you think though that by me acknowledging I touched a nerve , I really care... you are sadly mistaken.
ChaoticInfinityX