Eeeh old voiceover recycling = classy!

Vidunder

Are those quads with flamethrowers?

Nexus6

Pew...Pew

Twinbee

starcraft was great back in the day but...all i get is meh for the new ones cos its' 2008. nostalgia has got nothing on me.

kitsuneconundrum

@Vidunder: Just placeholders.

mizeriq

Wait, were those *zerglings* towards the beginning of that second trailer? Are they really that tough now? It felt like the Terrans were wailing on 'em quite a bit before they succumbed.

GwennBlackfeather

@Vidunder: Or unfinished. Some old but unlikely to change units like the SCV and Marines have brand new voices, where less firmly decided things have the original sounds still, in case they change in function and their voice has to change to reflect that. I mean, the new Marine is already outdated as he makes references to Medics, but since then the Medic has been dropped in favour of the Medevac Dropship...

NiceMissMayonnaise

Firebats!

SanderCohen

Well that was completely uninspiring. It'll sell hotcakes but I'm sorry, that RTS design went the way of the dodo 8 years ago. After playing games like Dawn of War and Company of Heroes, I won't be able to retard half my brain to play this game.

Xer0Ph0kus

@Xer0Ph0kus: yeah, COH was awesome in that each individual unit felt 'alive' as they moved around for cover. things like starcraft or c&c is such that when theyre in range, they just sit there and it becomes a war of attrition.

kitsuneconundrum

every supreme like alien race needs its own war of the worlds type vehicle. Tentacle legs and laser beams and all

ArmyofJuan

@SanderCohen: I thought Firebats were removed.

CaptainMurphy

I don't even care anymore, Blizzard you have lost a customer with this three pack bs.

CaptainMurphy

What is up with advance alien races and machines that "walk" instead of roll. Sure it can get over most terrain easily over wheels or rollers but take one of those legs out and it's a sitting duck.

Also, rage because they took out that blue blood that dragoons bleed when they die.

I'll be getting this game anyways, can't wait....
Never really was a RTS starcraft gamer. I only really enjoyed the use map settings of that game. I really hope who ever made the Raccoon City UMS remakes it for SC2.

aceshigh521

Wow, that was complete meh. After playing Dawn of War and the like, this looks to be boring as hell. This might actually be Blizzard's first FAIL game. I'm a big Starcraft fan, but I play other RTS's alot too. This was pathetic. It really is just the old game with new graphics and a few new game mechanics thrown in. Ten years Blizzard? COME ON.

gemetzel

buncha whiners.
i just want more videos!

Justifan

@GwennBlackfeather: Hydras. Zerglings are much smaller.

NeoXY

@GwennBlackfeather: I thought the same thing! Now the marines seem to last for more than 10 seconds in a battle.

hardwire

@gemetzel:
Show me a true sequel that isn't just new graphics and new mechanics.

moe84

@Xer0Ph0kus: Yeah I kinda feel the same way. I mean don't get me wrong I love Starcraft and will most likely buy it, but i just see myself having more fun with DoW2...

belo

Quick view of some player v player skirmishes. Can't wait to see what Blizz has in store for the storyline.

moe84

ship it now! i dont care even if the MP is a separate game, i want it now!!

otis123

@moe84: How is that not the definition of every sequel ever? To me, if a sequel doesn't have new graphics or new mechanics, it's an expansion pack.

The story better rock though. Does anybody else remember the days when everything was included on multiple discs instead of chronologically releasing incomplete thirds of trilogies? Ah, how this man yearns for the yesteryear of long development cycles...

4sparta

@kitsuneconundrum:
I still play CoH frequently. Amazing game. It still kinda disappoints me when i repeatedly don't see it in the top 10 NPD PC game sales charts.

Mericana

@aceshigh521: And a wheeled vehicle's not a sitting duck when it loses a wheel?

Reilaos: Reading Comprehension is your friend!

Screw you, Blizzard. If you sell this as three separate products, I'm not interested at all.

milkmonkey

wow. the colossus looks weak, expensive, and inaccurate. it couldn't even take out a single SCV out of an undefended crowd of them before it died.

willyolio

Im sorry, but CoH, DoW2, Ground control, Total war, and all the others have shown me what the RTS genre can be.

The gameplay I'm seeing here looks like something I left behind a long time ago.

ShineDog

looks a little Warcrafty I wish it looked more realistic like the original starcraft.

adragonfang18

Im here at blizzcon right now also and i have to say i have not been impressed so far with SC2 its pretty bland and not catching my interest so far. There is this thing with gas that after you harvest for a bit it breaks and has to repair itself so you constantly have to watch your base and i just don't have the korean mirco skills :D

voxez

@Twinbee: It doesn't go, "pew pe-pew." It goes, "BANG BANG BANG!"

warf0x0r

looks dated.

wnflame

@aceshigh521:
I'm pretty sure they replaced Dragoons with Stalkers.

Blah8

I wanna know what these new units are! Big dudes with lasor guns? Jeeps with Flame Throwers? Weird bug things that are totally not zergling! I WANT ANSWERS BLAJDLAJD *foams at mouth*

ParadoxControl

Lots of whiners in this thread. CoH, DoW, Ground Control, and Total War are all different kinds of RTS.

I still play StarCraft online and offline--I can't say that about any other game. If StarCraft 2 is more like StarCraft 1.5 with shiny graphics and new units, that's just fine by me.

Legion329

@kitsuneconundrum:
what is micro?

respect

Anyone else think you can blame THQ/Relic for Blizzard's marketing strategy, making so many damn DOW expansions? Granted I bought the expansions for 20$ each because they were pumped out so quickly and lost value even faster, I doubt a Blizzard title will ever drop below it's original purchase price (except after it's 5 years old).

MrFatalistic

looks like it's definately getting there. The colossus looks extremely weak now however, it was dispatched very quickly, which to an extent is in line with true starcraft style gameplay, but it seems like an old school reaver drop was more effective than the colossus, it couldn't even take out more than a couple SCVs despite the terran's backup showing up late to the rescue.

I've played Dawn of War and it's not superior to this, Dawn of War played like Starcraft if it contained nothing but massing infantry. You can say I suck at DOW but eh, while it's very nice, it doesn't have the multiplayer appeal of Starcraft.

Company of Heroes is an awesome game that IMO is a real step forward in RTS games. Starcraft 2 will likely hold up to most modern RTS games, but it probably won't be what Starcraft was when it first came out.

MrFatalistic

starcraft fans dont want changes, they want the same great simple mechanics but with new graphics. If you liked DOW or COH, thats ok, go and play that game, but why are you trying to turn a game into another ?. I dont want stardawn, I want starcraft, and there is no starcraft whithout a simple and enjoyable nature in the gameplay.

they split the game to deliver it faster and with better quality and everyone complains about it, why ?. If they release it in 2015 you will complain, if they dont do any expansions you will complain, is not going to be like that and people is still complaining.

It doesnt look dated, megaman 9 hited and everyone was "oh my god this game is so retro awesome", that game looks dated, but in a good way. Starcraft looks simple, and PC friendly, and of course it looks like the old starcraft because that is what everybody want.

kamisama

After watching this, I'm confident that I want to play Dawn of War 2 even more...

Thojorkill

@ShineDog:
supcom? O.o <3

radialshifter

@ShineDog: Agreed, though I think I'll still buy this for the campaigns. Single player isn't dead to me.

But once you experience Total War or Company of Heroes, it's hard to get the same enjoyment I once got from Starcraft and C&C games back in the day.

ChalkdustTorture

@Blah8: More or less the same things, they're just improved/redesigned Dragoons.

ChalkdustTorture

@Xer0Ph0kus: Sounds like half your brain is retarded already.

DoW - Big explosions, kitchen-skink design philosophy no balance
SC - Perfect balance, minimalist design philosophy, toned down eye-candy.
Regardless, both DOW 2 and SC2 look awesome for completely different reasons.

supremejustice

ZOMG <3 ... except the whole divided campaign thing :/

radialshifter

I can't believe they were working on this game for that many years :O

Well the engine surely looks dated (looks like DoW from 2004 but in a dull shell). How will this hold itself when they finally release the third installment with the Protoss campaign in a few years?

Death animations are primitive. Protoss units go up with a blue pop (wow!!!), I can hardly see flying debris or blood. Using the Havoc engine was really worth it!

Fire effects and flames. These would look okay if we were in 2000 or something. Just watch the part where the Zerglings catch on fire. Hilarious (in a bad way).

No epic units, animations or moments. The original StarCraft has way more kick to it (visually), no matter how old the engine is. We don't need fancy graphics but neither do we need this lifeless design. Meh :/

Ilsyde

@ShineDog:

Only Total War deserves the "strategy" part from those games, the other were more like real-time tactics game... no RTS is truly strategical without resource management of decent complexity.

song

@CaptainMurphy:

Starcraft had one expansion (Brood War), Starcraft 2 will have two. What's the big deal?

song

@Xer0Ph0kus:

Yup, having things such as "resource management" and a strategical layer over the tactical one sure does "dumb down" a game.

song

What a let down. Without the commentary detailing the new units and the player apparantly jumping all over the map I got little from watching both of these movies. I also noticed that they are still using previous voices from older units on newer ones, which makes me doubt how far in development this game actually is.

_Rad_

@Nexus6: I don't remember exactly but I think they were called like Cobras.. meant to replace both Firebats and Vultures.. except maybe they readded Firebats again? They iterate that stuff like weekly so it's hard to keep up what's taken out and what's not.

Jilkon

these videos do not do the game justice, just got back from blizzcon and its a ton of fun, it has that same addictive quality that the original had, that just keeps making you want to play more and more. I really like what they are doing with the Zerg, trying to balance them out a bit more, by re-distributing talents that each units have, but still keeping them very unique. ex. instead of mass hydras always = win, now hydras are more of a anti-air unit, and suck vs ground units, so you have to start mixing in roaches to get your ranged ground attacks.

Fert

@GwennBlackfeather: actually no, those are roaches, not hydras, roaches are a new unit you can build from a basic hatchery (needs the roach nest), no gas, but 100 minerals each, they are much tougher than lings, and they regenerate health really fast, so they are really awesome for kiting.

Fert