@MoeB:

Woah.
Don't be an idiot.

sanzen

@Shteve: That would be cool . but given that bullets have always been limited in RE . I don't think that would make much sense story/idea wise. =x

휘성

I'm not digging the swing knife setup. Co-Op on this is going to rock , regardless. I'm almost tempted to pick up the xbox version after I've had my way with the PS3 version.

휘성

@KSPRAYDAD: i think you are lost.

ruba-dub-dub

this reminds me, they need to fix those R2 and L2 triggers already.

ruba-dub-dub

I would have liked to be able to run and shoot at the same time. Not in a FPS kind a way where all you do is run and jump in circle while loading bullets in a guy. But shooting while moving, though it gives a shitty aim, would be nice when your goal is to survive.

Shteve

...Am I the only one who thinks that looks really lame and cumbersome?

Touy

Seems like the controls will be awesome.
Other than that can fanboys please find nearest office building, climb the stairs then take a dive to certain death(even if you were just joking).

Muppsatan

cont... What really needs altered is the AI, so that the player feels more empowered by better controls and still feels challenged by competent enemies.

BlooQKazoo

I'm sure plenty of people will complain that the addition of these new controls will make the game too easy and sacrifice much of the claustrophobic atmosphere

BlooQKazoo

Nah...the MS both was just SOOOOOOOOO crowded with 100 plus person lineups that they went to the totally empty SONY both near the washroom and had their way with pictures.

True story.

KSPRAYDAD

@MoeB: .......no

mastergodai

Woah. Those images are of the PS3 control scheme. Does this mean that the PS3 version will be superior to the version meant for the lesser(other) console?

MoeB

@マンゼクスSythe:
L1 (aim) then, R1 (fire)

It works perfectly for Gears of War, and feels a lot more natural than tapping "X".

Or was it Square? I honestly can't remember from Resident Evil 4.

Strife56

@Strife56: So does Drake's Fortune.

Rinaldus

@マンゼクスSythe:

Yeah, I'm not digging the L1+R1 to fire. Not at all.

dead_red_eyes

@휘성:
I'm sorry, but is it just me, or did that not make an ounce of sense?

Strife56

@ruba-dub-dub:
I think we all know, that goes without mention... *sigh*

Strife56

@Đipic:
Spike there says otherwise.

Strife56

So one control scheme has a strafe and the other doesn't? I would imagine this makes dodging whatever the notzombies throw at you significantly easier.

I think I might stick to the traditional control scheme, though, just because I'm used to it for RE.

Sakujo

Meh, I'll stick with the default setting. Those controls look too confusing. Like why would you have to press L1+R1 to fire? If the controls are for western gamers, then shouldn't be something like R2 only instead?

I know you have to hold one button and press another in Resident Evil 4(and this one supposedly) usually to do an action such as firing, but if its gonna be for western gamers, they should just make the firing and swinging one button only.

マンゼクスSythe

@휘성: It's not very realistic either. It's hard to hit a target while you're moving.

Đipic

@MoeB: Absolutely. Your powers of deduction are unrivaled, sir.

Đipic

The game will feel more action oriented fo' sho. It'll still be awesome though.

belo

While i have the option to buy either im going to have to go with the 360 version because of Live and the controller is more comfy/aiming is better on the 360 sticks. Both versions are going to be excellent though so you really cant lose. I just hope the camera is a bit better then RE4

parad0x360

good, maybe when they do a PC port down the road the controls won't be such shiite

Cell9song

None of these controls schemes will matter once the game is released on Wii ... you know, the upcoming WiiHD or Wii-i or whatever they chose to call it.

babelfisher

I hope this game tops RE4. I don't think I'm looking for a scare anymore when I buy RE games since they've moved more to an action genre.

I think the scare of the year will go to Dead Space, now that game looks creepy.

RE5 looks amazing though, definitely will pick it up next March.

macr0planet

@Touy: Yes, you are. Have you ever played a Resident Evil game? These are not FPS, and they're not supposed to be.

L_K_M

@Strife56: Yeah, why not just get 360 in the first place? More cats are on XBox Live anyways. You'll find better people to co-op with and at least the headset comes standard for communication.

vagrantscholar

"A shame the action controls don't allow strafing and shooting."

How is that a shame? If you want to play a Zombie FPS, play Left4Dead. This is not a Zombie FPS, it's survival horror (well, it used to be - nowadays it's kinda survival horror).

L_K_M

@マンゼクスSythe:
L1 to aim then R1 to fire is just about the de facto standard for third person games these days. Check out Gears of War, Uncharted, GTA, etc. and all of them use this kind of control scheme. Even some games where you don't have to use L1 to aim give you an option to use L1 to aim down a gun's sights for better accuracy (MGS4, Call of Duty series)

d3v

@マンゼクスSythe: If you look at all the shooters for the PS3 don't they have fire button always on R1? They never use the supposedly triggers on R2 and L2.

Fstrike

Why oh why can't we just edit the controls ourselves?

90sKid

'The new scheme does have shooter layout elements, but it's still run/walk, stop, shoot.'

In other words, the change means nothing. The triggers still aren't 'fire'. God this is stupid.

Look Capcom, its simple:

LT = Raise Weapon
LT + LS = Strafe/Walking Aim
RT = Fire/Throw
LB = Map
RB = Locate Partner

LS = Move
RS = Camera/Aim

Y/Triangle = Change Item
X/Square = Reload
B/Circle = Team Action/Call Partner
A/Cross = 'Action button'

LS Up + A/Cross = Sprint
LS Down + A/Cross = Quick Turn

The PS3 version being the same only with an option to choose between L1/R1 and L2/R2 for trigger duties. The set up should be customisable anyway.

The knife should be an equippable item that you can run around and slash with. Even if you can't move whilst shooting, stationary knife slashing is the stupidest thing in the game.

Its elementary stuff, Capcom.

Bergerac

So wait...if L-stick sideways strafes, then turning the camera with R also turns you character which is standard gears-like control (although I'm sure gears wasn't the first to do it), but you need to hold x to run, which means no running and turning, although i guess you could use your palm to tilt R.

Is it just me or does that seem a bit more unintuitive? or am i missing something

Cerabret100

@L_K_M: It's not even a kinda survival horror, it's a zombie killing game. Ence they should give decent controls for what it is, not stay with controls suited for what it was.

Shteve

@Strife56:

Gears of War use the trigger buttons, L2 and R2.

dead_red_eyes

i thought the control scheme for gears of war was incredibly awkward. enough so that i quit after a couple hours...but i had no problem with the re4 controls on gamecube.

moominsean

@phatdog45:

Huh? Link to the article that promises run and gun.

dead_red_eyes

@Đipic: It might be harder to shoot while moving but at least it's possible. I'd like to have the possibility to do it.

MGS4 had great third person controls, Capcom could have done something similar.

Shteve

why do they still have to press an extra button to run? press L1 lightly to walk, harder to run....

Godsman

NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I WAS PROMISED RUN AND GUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!fuck

phatdog45

Damn I was really hoping for western FPS style controls.

Just like RE4 the controls are gonna have a massive negative impact on my enjoyment again.

*sigh* Japanese devs still have a ways to go I think.

Sh0dan

Not using the R1 as fire is hardly the biggest problem with the control scheme, if you're looking for some kind of traditional shooter setup. Not to mention it seems they set R1 as fire in the "Action" control scheme.

It is what it is, I guess. Though I can't help but feel they half-assed it. If they were gonna add a more traditional shooter control scheme, they might as well have went all the way and let you strafe while shooting. This new one is more like a poor man's shooter.

Sakujo

It still makes a huge difference, you can sidestep round a corner now, rather than having to orient yourself after you enter the doorway, or pass the wall.

Even if you cant shoot and move, its going to be a huuuuuge help towards shooting.

ShineDog

No strafe and shoot? Noooooooooooo! I need the strafing. I can't hit a thing without it! I usually use the right stick to point the gun in the general direction of the bad guys and use the slower strafing for precision. No strafe&shoot was the primary reason I couldn't play Dead Rising and RE4... It's so frustrating.....

MadMinstrel

@bkchurch: Old Argument. Move Along.

휘성

@Strife56: Makes sense to me. I'm not really a fan of holding down a trigger button to hit another button to execute a move. That control scheme is common in alot of games though.

I plan to play the PS3 version first , because I want to. I might get the xbox version later down the road.

I'm not sure how that didn't make any sense.

휘성

@MoeB:

Possibly but none of us will really no until we sit through the game's 30 minute mandatory install on the "superior" console.

bkchurch

wowomg 2 control schemes! You're really pushing the envelope with that capcom!

Mancomb Seepgood

@Cell9song: Did you play the RE4 PC port? It didn't even use the mouse.

Poo_and_Weeeee

MMM I preffer the RE4 Scheme, shoot with R1, its so FPS, anyway, i cant wait to play coop in PSN.

SubrataCaninus

I'm just happy that it sounds like it's "push direction, go that way" instead of the traditional tank-like controls. Can someone verify that my impression is correct, they've finally fixed movement control?

Illusion

@Shteve: Did it hell, you had to hold 3 buttons to jump out of cover and fire.

I think the action controls for RE5 are a bit crap too. The way the knife and gun is fired is just, wrong.

Poo_and_Weeeee

@bkchurch: Better than having it red ring and not being able to play it for a good long while.

HepCat

All I see is that shooting has been changed to the shoulder buttons...oh well. At least strafing means that I can now run at a 90 degree parallel, instead of having to turn ninety before running away from the guy clawing at my face.

Gunhaver

I'm elated they retained the 'you have to stop to shoot' mechanic. It adds a real risk vs reward gameplay element that every other shoot on the market lacks: should you stay and fight, or try to run away?

Also, it is more realistic (not that that counts for much in a game for zombies, granted), seeing as it's nearly impossible to shoot accurately at wall while moving IRL.

duderdude2

i seriously think they should make a version for the wii. RE4 had great success on Wii with great controls.

Sintonado

@BlooQKazoo:
So true haha.

KrsJin

I just got a lot more interested in RE5 because of this. Good that they are giving players the choice to use either the robot tank controls or the traditional console shooter layout. If you don't like one, use the other.

Anyone who complains about having a choice is an idiot.

billnabors65

@Sintonado: Have you learned nothing from the Dead Rising Wii version?

DannKnee

@90sKid: Exactly !

Nexus6

So the first time I try to fire my gun, I'll pull up the map. Fucking brilliant.

hagridore

Some "western gamers" won't be happy until the controls are exactly the same as Halo or Gears of War and the protagonist shaves his head and puts on metal armor. Why even continue to make RE games Capcom if you're just going to water them down and make them as generic as possible? Might as well stop making everything but bald space marine shooters to appeal to the average 20-year-old American Xbox 360 owner.

deathly

@KSPRAYDAD:

spell check before you post

face0324

Why not just make it Uncharted or Gears of war or mgs4 controls?

all of those worked well

mal_tez92

ew, i like the first scheme better.

essko

@deathly:

Insecure much?

billnabors65

@Cerabret100: Yeah that basically makes the "action" controls completely broken. The utter stupidity of this control setup makes me worry for the quality of the rest of the game. That and the fact that the director seems to think that making the clothes "breathe" is somehow at all important. A graphics whore shouldn't be directing a high profile game like this one.

Placentasaurus

I really want to know something: Why does nearly every game that uses the left and right TRIGGERS on the 360 for shooting they change it on the PS3 to the L1/R1 buttons instead of the more triggerish L2/R2?

I remember reading the LT and RT on the 360 do the point and shooting and on the PS3 that's changed to R1 and L1. What gives?
Same thing with so many games. In COD4 PS3 the default control is R1 for shooting instead of the R2 like on the 360. I like more to shoot with a trigger than a button you know?

Alex_Mexico

@hagridore: ohmyGod, dude. That made me laugh out loud. I mean this.

Alex_Mexico

@Bergerac: yes the triggers are fire did you not read the article???

Assassin_Kensei

So the new huge difference is that instead of shooting with square you shoot with R1.

and they thought that was a big deal???

Assassin_Kensei

@MoeB: The Game was originally programmed on the PS3 and is Ported to 360 because game developers find it easier, also TGS is in Japan where ith PS3 is still more popular even though the 360 has seen recent success.

This doesn't mean one version will be way better, it will probably be that the 360 version has better shadows and online co-op and PS3 will have some Sixaxis Controlles and some extra Anti-Aliasing passes, and a huge disk install that will make the game load a second faster, (this isn't a fact it is just how most multi-platform games do it now-a-days)

Assassin_Kensei

@Alex_Mexico: Probably because (IMO) the triggers on the DS3 are _TERRIBLE_. They have no, uh, "grip" to them, your fingers always feel like they're sliding off them. At least to me.

Dragoonkin

@BlooQKazoo: I didn't like the RE4 control, now imagine a newer? Survival Horror (RIP)

jocaju

Men, i still don't know why game developers stopped adding adjustable control schemes. Add a couple of standard ones and then allow the user to configure what he wants, including button combinations (Like R1+L1).

VittorePashnani

@hagridore:

LOL. I agree, make trigger buttons for firing and left triggers for aiming!

CABALLOTE

@Sakujo:

..plus R1 is not really the ideal trigger button on the controller. Yeah.

CABALLOTE

@Bergerac:

agreed

CABALLOTE