@Natpalm: I don't think netflix is gone, I think people are misunderstanding what the original question was in the MTV interview.

peacefuloutrage

@Nexus6: I think you can still do that. This may have gone out of control.

From the way I interpreted the original article, someone was asking if he bought a movie or TV show from the marketplace would he be able to share it with everyone else if they had netflix.

That isn't the same thing as everyone having netflix and watching the streaming content available.

peacefuloutrage

@NeVeRMoRe666: really? wasn't aware of that. Never looked into Netflix, is it a US-only thing? Or was it not coming here because of different laws?

Sandbox_Emperor

@Comatose Turtle: Are you talking about this one feature of NXE or NXE as a whole.

Neo-Senku: The World's Finest Pervert

Meh. Canadians don't get NetFlix, so no lose for me.

chenry

Sounds like they ran into the same trouble Sony did with this type of video share feature in "Home". I look forward to seeing someone get it going soon though.

Bobbin-Threadbare

@You Are My Friend!: Hahaha, exactly.

I think that's the best username+avatar combo ever. Congratulations, sir.

90sKid

So did everyone here the news that Bush signed into law to have a copyright czar? This move could be becuase of that, though I fail to see why because you are paying for it. Maybe the 360 isn't as powerful as they would like it to be or because of bandwidth issues.

It's really stupid to even bother going this whole route in changing the dashboard.

Netnavi

Sony and Microsoft! You have failed me! Will I never be able to watch a movie with 8 or more of my gamer friends?!

You Are My Friend!

I was going to use this to force my girlfriend to finally see Star Wars, Matrix, Back to the Future...

DMC-Man

Too bad Aaron Greenburg works for MS, I'd love to watch him rip MS a new ass about promising features then removing them.

CreamSodaSlurpee

First Sony cut it out of Home, then Microsoft out of NXE; looks like the movie companies don't want this to happen.
Although I don't see how it could be bad thing, instead of having a friend come over and watch a rented or bought movie, you can do it virtually; but I'm no expert on the subject.

crabperson

Because I'm sure my friends and I would want to stream rentals of Pot Zombies, Toxic Avenger, Redneck Zombies, etc.

A-kun

@Comatose Turtle:

Over this one feature?

Vecha

Yes

zkotaku

Ah well...it wasn't coming out in Canada anyway. So no loss here.

NeVeRMoRe666

This just screams lawsuit by MPAA i'm really not surprised this was removed. The suits want everyone to pay.

spectralpulse

I was actually surprised that they were planning it in the first place because of how complicated DRM could get.

Shin-san

@FP_slomo788: whenever home launches (still optomistic it launches by the end of fall) i would love to compare its features to the NXE just to see how the 2 stack up, nothing more.

limitt_45

Anyone else getting the feeling Microsoft lied about getting that feature just to get suckers to buy some Xboxes before the update? ...

....just kidding....

Sex_For_Pandas

And even if your friend does have a NetFlix account, are you really going to sit there with a headset on and watch the movie together online? And if so, couldn't you just both start the movie at the same time and call your friend on the phone?

I mean, I'm sure some teenagers might actually use this, but I'd be much more likely to use photo sharing than do any long distance movie watching. It's the same as the (cancelled?) PlayStation Home feature. The only videos that I might want to watch with my gaming friends would have to be quick and relevant to what we're playing. Like videos from games (like Skate or Halo 3), or a YouTube videos.

RoboticSpacePenguin

That's kind of a bummer :(

Eschguy

The feature always seemed like more work than it was worth from the start. Consider my interest in the feature now less than zero, which means I will actually go out of my way to avoid it or possibly even disacknowledge its very existence.

Comatose Turtle

Oh no, MS always overpromises and underdelivers! Wah wah wah.

/sarcasm

boringjob2

@cheesecake000: Now if they added everyone as a shadow figure MST3K style while talking... would be cool.

RYAMATSU

@tehblondie: You all watch it at the same time and you can talk about it like you were all in the same room watching it.

cheesecake000

I really don't care about this. I don't have Netflix, and even if I did, my friends don't have Netflix, so what's the use?

DynoMite

This was the feature I was most excited for. This sucks.

Natpalm

I guess Sony were not the only one facing a problem with that feature...

FP_slomo788

well the way i understood it was that you could share with other xbl members that also had netflix.....so really what was the point?

tehblondie

Weak. I was looking forward to showing a friend City of Lost Children.

Nexus6

Long live hard copy (disk) !!

HobbaHobba

@CreamSodaSlurpee: LOL! I'm sorry if I'm slow but I realized what you did there. That was hilarious. ;)

Jun581 won't give you tree fiddy!!

I'm extremely dissapointed. This is what I looked forward to more than anything else about the update. Microsoft really let me down today...

NnamkcebNairb

@FP_slomo788: Yeah, apparently the legalities of media sharing on Home and NXE are more complex than originally thought.

TC

@RoboticSpacePenguin: I was thinking I would watch a movie with my brother who is 5 hours away, or maybe my cousin who is in Australia. You just put on your headset(preferably wireless) and sit back and watch. The point is that Microsoft was again attempting to branch out from their market and make it a replace all device in the family room. I don't think they had just gamers watching "gamer" movies together in mind.

evilbananawind

@CreamSodaSlurpee: Well that's what your hear for... to rip MS a new hole for promising something and not delivering. It's a dirty job but just think of it as doing god's work :)

okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under)

@Shin-san: Well don't forget you all have to be part of Netflix so everyone in the video party has the right to view that content therefore there's no license infringement. Think of it as you all having the same movie on DVD and you all press play at the same time... it's sorta like that.

...

Being my usual dick self, I remember making a post days ago to someone poking fun at them for not being able to share movies on PSN so in a way, if this news is true, then it's my fault for jinxing the whole thing. I'm such a dick :(

okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under)

@RoboticSpacePenguin:
I've been thinking the same thing. Why would you wanna pretend you're watching the movie in the same room? Who would really do that, more than once to try? You're right that it would be better to do this with youtube videos or game trailers.

kadaj24

@DMC-Man: Microsoft just saved your relashionship!

CockroachMan

Makes sense.. why let 8 people watch a movie if you can sell 8 movies instead?

CockroachMan

Was this feature also supposed to include the ability to stream video from your hard drive or network to other people?

lifeinthefridge

I wanted to make fun of young Van Helsing with six of my closest live friends...

jjammerzs

@CockroachMan:
It must have been a technical challenge, because what you're saying makes no sense.

The way the feature was described, it was only for NetFlix streaming movies and everyone watching would be required to have a NetFlix account. So you weren't going to be able to share movies from discs or with friends who don't have a NetFlix account in the first place..

RoboticSpacePenguin

@Bobbin-Threadbare: Full movies don't interest me as much as the ability to watch youtube-like videos, or short videos created in games like Skate or Halo 3.

RoboticSpacePenguin

@ Kotaku:

Is their any future plans to add a petition bitch tool to the blog. I personally think it'd be an amazing feature of the site that empowers Kotakites to participate in the free market process and gives us a stronger more singular voice with which to bitch with.... It'll be the most awesome thing ever.

okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under)

Do I hear a petition because I think one's in order. Shit if I had a lawyer on retainer, I'm sure I'd have a case on the 20th of November. Seriously, if you yell fire in a crowded area, it's a crime because you're endangering human life. After hearing this news (no sarcasm O_O ) I just want to die! Surely I can sue MS for making me feel like dieing since my life is in danger if I actually kill myself. I swear I'd sue if I go through with it too O_o

...

It really is getting harder to take release dates at face value these days. I'm just getting tired of feeling like I'm being made excited over nothing... a delay is a little better then a deal breaker but not by much. I'm almost at the point that I wish people would announce features with a specific date unless they know it'll ship on that date. Something like "Video sharing on NXE potentially coming on a future update" is better and you know what... I'll know it's in the pipe and not stress. Not that I'm stressed (other than wanting to die), I'm just projecting here :|

okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under)

Movie studios you FAIL me again

*shakes fist*

Captain Fury

@RoboticSpacePenguin: I actually do this fairly often. I moved over 3,000 miles away from my best friend about a year ago. For obvious reasons, we can't really hang out like we used to. In order to keep from growing apart, we routinely get a movie from the video marketplace and time the start of it so that we can "watch it together" like we used to when I still lived there. It's a great way to hang out with a non-gamer using XBL.

This feature is my most anticipated of NXE.

chrissylas

The NetFlix deal, IMO, was the absolute WEAKEST feature of the NXE, and so this is really no big deal to me.

I mean, what killed the feature to begin with is the fact that every viewer had to also be paying subscribers to NetFlix! Kinda silly if you ask me, seeing as how anyone watching could just go off and get the same film on his own anyway.

Now if it had been only the film's host was required to be the subscriber, then that would have been an EXCELLENT feature, one to get self-slapping excited for!

It's like telling your friend: "Hey there's this film I wanna show you!", when he's already got a copy setting on his own bookcase.

Sure the experience of watching it together is worth a little something... but still so much is taken away from the overall impact of the feature because of that one stipulation.

DHX

Yikes. MS just caught the Sony!

DARTH_TIGRIS

Microsoft is copying everything Sony... even broken promises of hyped features!

mcool93

FUCK MAN! FUCK! just when i thought i would use my xbox!

gessyca

@spectralpulse: yeah, but at first i took this idea as like the following:

you: has a netflix account.
me: do not have netflix account.
friend 1: do not have a netflix account
friend 2: has a netflix account.

conclusion: you could start up the movie, and then the 3 of us could join you. so its basically like you rent a video, and call us over, and we all watch it on your sofa together.
but, since we all need netflix, i really dont care about this feature, because, personally the videos aren't yet to the selection that i prefer.

d4rlp3nc1l

If only I actually had Netflix. I'm happy its nothing im concerned about, though i guess for others it does suck that they are cutting this. oh well hopefully for those few ppl they'll be releasing it later on lol

DarthMetalHope

@evilbananawind: yeah, and then you get to press a button once every 10 minutes to keep the controller on.

i end up having to turn it back on every time i want to pause what im watching. not that big of a deal then, but if youre trying to keep up a minimal conversation, itll end up like cell phone ads about lost calls.

it was sort of an interesting idea, i like the idea for shorter videos to discuss, rather than watching a whole movie. i really prefer watching movies without someone yapping in my ear the whole time. thats why theaters are usually quiet, so you can hear the damn film.

interesting option, didnt think i would ever use it though.

karl_hungus

@kadaj24: You wouldn't be pretending. You would really be there with another person watching a movie. Even though you aren't actually in a room watching it, you are still techincally with another person watching the same movie at the same time as them.

johnjohnbmx

@A-kun: Hey, who wouldn't? Hooray for Troma!

tossrStu

@karl_hungus: Plug and play would fix your first problem. Not sure if the wireless headset turns off before it dies.

lunarcore

Here's some questions:

Does the new layout totally erase the old layout? How much space does the current XBL layout take up?, and is it more or less than the new layout? Begging the question, will more space be freed up on my 20gb HDD after I install the new XBL experience?

Orionsaint

@Vecha: @Neo-Senku: The World's Finest Pervert: You guys are ridiculous...
Firstly, I'm mostly joking. Mostly.
Secondly, I don't know how much clearer I could have said that post without using the word "feature" a total of 5 times in 2 sentences, which is a taste I don't cater to.
And not one but two people? Epic.

I honestly just don't know how to respond to your questions.

Comatose Turtle

Well, at least you XBOX360 owners will still have the new feature of being able to share pictures. Right up to the moment when the press discovers a paedophile ring using XBOX360's to do exactly that.

Then it will be gone again.

BritBloke916

This feature is so gay. Why would you sit there and watch a movie with your live headset on? It's just stupid.

sigh....

@Comatose Turtle: WHY?! Why must you hate on NXE? It does exist, you'll see!

everybest

Not a problem for me, i'm passing on the Netflix deal.

I do like the picture viewer, I got lots of funny pics to show my friends from the good old world wide web.

Lurk No More

This is probably a start. I wonder how many other features will be pulled in order to get it ready by the release date. It's like Fable 2 all over again. LOL.

Cyco

WTF! This was one of the major features I was waiting for!

Quicksilver4648

Oh no! I didn't know Peter Molyneux was in charge of handling the feature list for the New Xbox Experience dashboard :-)

Smurph

This is the only feature that I was actually looking forward to. So disappointing.

shieryda

I'm a bit confused. You can't share the Netflix movies now, but is Netflix viewing still in this update?

jackburnt

This is never going to happen,and they know it.Movie licensees are not about to let multiple people on different consoles watch one movie(despite the fact 50 people could watch a rental from a vid store)

xIvSlowDeath420

Uhm, so where in this article is the quote where Microsoft says "No, you cannot watch Netflix movies in a party with other people who have Netflix" because I sure as hell don't see it - the quote seems to talk about photo and video sharing in terms of stuff on your hard drive. Not about the Netflix stuff.

I have seen three sites report this yet none of the sourced material states ANYTHING about the Netflix feature, only photo and video sharing of things on your hard drive.

Bobby Blackwolf

@You Are My Friend!:
Sure you can, just invite them over and put the movie on.
Problem solved.

maniacmayhem

Still confused, was it orignially planned that the host was a subscriber and he could share it with nonsubscribers or was it everyone in the party had to be a subscriber.

galith

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
The ONE feature I actually thought was good that was coming out of this dash reboot. Awesome Microsoft/Netflix, you might as well not even include the functionality if you can't watch it with others. That was pretty much the only thing that set it apart from watching it on your computer via streaming from Netflix's website.

I hope the "at a later time" comment means a week or two and not the next major update but I know I'd be kidding myself if I thought you could get things done in a timely fashion.

Sir_Crocidile

what a shame. I was looking forward to being able to watch some movies with the GF using this. I guess she'll just have to get netflix.

HoseaPen?lop

So, they'll still have the NetFlix streaming for one person, right? I mean, being able to watch one movie with 8 of your friends over Xbox Live seems pretty stupid, anyway. I don't care that they removed that. Although, since I have NetFlix, I hope I can stream movies for just myself to watch.

Sebz93

Man, I was looking forward to this, even though I don't have Netflix, nor does anyone I know have Netflix. Then again, it's not too surprising, because all you'd have to do to get a free copy of the movie you're watching is hook up a VCR or DVD recorder and record it. On another note, why won't Kotaku let me comment on my normal account? It's been doing this for a while now, and I haven't done anything that's worth being banned over or anything.

KieferMagooing

Damn, I thought they meant home movie sharing.

And I had the basement all done up nice too, lots of velvet and cardboard egg cartons on the walls.

Stymie99

The original article was referring to sharing movies from one HDD or computer to another.....this is not talking about the Netflix functionality

TressaLexis