Internode Denies Denial of Service, Brags

Internode Denies Denial of Service, Brags

In the wake of the recent Distributed Denial of Service attack on Whirlpool, Internode security manager Bruce Hore has claimed DDoS attacks against Aussies are more common than you might think, with one every three weeks – and gamers are identified as the main culprit.

Speaking with Computerworld, Hore said US-based gamers might resort to DDoS out of frustration after being bested online. “A World of Warcraft gamer might have pissed off someone who decides to take them offline with a DoS [attack] .”

“Someone with a large connection overseas can launch a DoS [attack]on someone with slower connection,” says John Lindsay, Carrier Relations Manager. “Sometimes they do it to show-off — just because they can. To say ‘my connection is bigger than yours’.”

After Internode and network provider Bulletproof quelled the brute force attack on Whirpool in a matter of hours, Hore said that Internode was better positioned to defend against the attacks, as it owns physical network links to Europe and the US.

As for defending yourself against the attacks, it’s recommended you don’t give out your IP address. But given the nature of a DDoS attack, which utilises multiple computers to take down a large service, it can be very hard for an individual to defend.


  • “Gamers” are the main culprit? Lols?

    News flash – hackers/botters and douchebags play games too.

    Quit creating stereotypes and then talking crap about them.

  • Interesting article, Jung, but I feel it’s worth pointing out that we’re mixing 2 separate classes of attacks here: small scale attacks on a single user (which can likely be accomplished with a simple DoS) and large attacks capable of knocking out web sites and services (which would need to be DDoS).

    Small scale attacks by some guy you pwned online involve him bombarding your IP address with packets, so you can’t get your message through the noise. It works because home internet connections, particularly for Aussies, aren’t very large and can be flooded by a faster connection (like a US home service, for example). For the vast majority of victims, resetting your modem will get a new dynamic IP address from your ISP, and problem solved. But the other guy is happy, he made you log off the game and had his little power trip.

    DDoS attacks are a different breed. Websites are designed to receive large amounts of inbound data, and to respond to all of it. One computer making connections will never max out the server’s capacity, so the bad guy needs to get a huge number of computers to do it at the same time. This is where botnets come in, and where the attack becomes beyond the capabilities of the vast majority of gamers. Botnets are large networks of (other people’s) computers infected with malware that lets a remote controller issue commands to all of them at once. The knowledge and skills needed to build one are quite specific, and actually doing it is illegal – if someone’s got a botnet, they built it to do something besides punking network gamers.

      • Yeah – you raise a good point, flux. Angry gamers/script kiddies might be able to launch DoS attacks but DDoS, which took down whirlpool, needs more money and resources typically not available to your average 15yr old COD4 player.

    • In other words he’s right, and my post was a bit confused.

      I’ve known one ‘hacker’ that knew how to DDoS with botnets, and one gamer that knew how to DoS other gamers. Different levels.

  • “Sometimes they do it to show-off — just because they can. To say ‘my connection is bigger than yours’.”

    It also probably says “my parents’ basement is bigger than yours, which is handy because I’ll be living here until I’m 45.”

    • Ha! Wouldn’t it be nice if our ISPs had a built-in defence mechanism which would automatically respond with a DoS attack on the original attacker … mwahahaha 🙂

  • World of Warcraft players measuring therir e-peens do not count as ‘gamers’.

    Somebody needs to pull Bruce aside an let him in on the fact that Ebaums World is responsible for nearly all DDoS attacks on the internet.

  • Since alot of ISP’s now give out static addresses hitting somebody with a DoS attack is a bit more effective.

    That being said how much of a psycho must you be to want to take something out of the game and make it real.

    If your getting that annoyed it may be time to walk away. I think we’ve all been in an online match where the team your on sucks or is massively outnumbered. And it is very frustrating, I just sit out the round and hope it balances next time or quit.

  • ok…what the hell? i know gizmodo is part of kotaku, but come on, instead of quoting gizmodo’s quoting of ITnews report, why not just credit ITnews with story instead of this link to link to link chain

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