New Zelda Is An Ocarina Of Time Prequel (Of Sorts)

You may think that the concept of a coherent timeline for the Legend of Zelda games is either a sick joke or a... joke, but Nintendo maintains there is one. And that the upcoming Skyward Sword fits neatly into it.

In an interview with Official Nintendo Magazine, series overseer Eiji Aonuma says, "Yes there is a master timeline but its confidential document! The only people to have access to that document are myself, Mr. Miyamoto and the director of the title. We cant share it with anyone else!"

Oh go on. Share just a little. "I have already talked to Mr. Miyamoto about this so I am comfortable in releasing this information – this title [Skyward Sword]takes place before Ocarina of Time. If I said that a certain title was ‘the first Zelda game', then that means that we cant ever make a title that takes place before that! So for us to add titles to the series, we have to have a way of putting the titles before or after each other."

What this means, exactly, we won't know until the game's out, but it'd be nice if the timeline was referenced as directly as it was in, say, Wind Waker, which is almost a post-apocalyptic Zelda following the events of Ocarina of Time.

[ONM, via Go Nintendo]


    I wonder what is in this secret document of theirs.

      Probably details that any Zelda game should be 95% exactly the same as its earlier incarnations.

    I know there are a few Zelda games that are loosely connected as sequels/prequels. Glad to hear that there is some form of time line to this madness we call Zelda. ;)

    So Ocarina was the first in the timeline?

      No, go back to primary school and learn to read.
      "If I said that a certain title was ‘the first Zelda game’, then that means that we cant ever make a title that takes place before that!"

      It is believed that Ocarina of Time split the time line in two, diverging into 2 different paths/alternate time lines. Each with there own cause and effects on the settings.

      Last time I looked at the proposed time lines I think Zelda 1 or there about is still believed to be the "first" Zelda.

      Then again this is all rumor :P Think it was Gametrailers that had a big post up about the timeline a couple of years ago.

      Well the debate on the timeline is endless, but I'm pretty sure OoT isn't first. OoT DOES mark the 'split' in the timeline (if you go with that theory), with some subsequent games following from the reset childhood (Majora's Mask, TP) and others (Windwaker, PH, ST) following from the 'bad' world in OoT (where Ganon is ruling, but where no Hero of Time arrives, and the gods intervene etc).

      Either way, I don't think OoT is seen as first... though I could be wrong

        Wish I could edit that. According to I'm very wrong, and OOT is in fact first... my bad :(

          That page does not include Minish Cap. That one largely agreed to be the first in the timeline, afterwhich OOT splits it into two line.

      Ocarina is where the time line splits- not begins. What they are saying is there is no "first or last" because they'll always be coming out with titles that are earlier or later than existing titles.


      Does anyone have a decoder ring for this?

        ORDER OF THINGS: (from what I can gather)

        Skyward Sword

        Ocarina of Time (timeline splits at end)
        Majora's Mask (direct sequal to OOT)

        (two paths, over 100 years after Ocarina)
        Twilight Princess / Wind Waker

        The Minish Cap (child timeline, WW branch)

        Four Swords
        Four Swords Adventures

        A Link to the Past
        Link's Awakening (direct sequal to ALTTP)

        The Legend of Zelda

        Zelda II: The Adventures of Link

        (child timeline)
        Phantom Hourglass (continuation of Tetra Story in Wind Waker but unknown if before or after Minish Cap)
        Spirit Tracks (100 years after Phantom Hourglass but where in order...)

    Does this mean we vs Ganon (giant pig) not Gannondorf (human) for once. (Now that I think about it Ganon came after 'Dorf in terms of timeline)

    I bet this is just like lost. There was a time line at one point, but nintendo got ahead of itself and the timeline got lost in the madness.

    Regardless of whether the Zelda series has an actual canon timeline, the story is still complete, utter crap. I was a Zelda fan, but Twilight Princess felt like a slap in the face to all us fans. Nintendo treat their fans like children by releasing the same game, with (slightly) updated graphics and gameplay. Games journalists need to start asking Nintendo the tough questions and stop treating Miyamoto like a 'God' and ask him why gamers should spend their hard earned $$$ on something which has been, essentially the same game for the last 15 years.

      I'd rather spend money on a well-developed re-iteration of a successful game formula than fork it out to some generic FPS or platformer that's subpar and takes only the basist of decent gaming elements from its peers, while using gimmicky gameplay features to brand it as 'original'.

      Say what you want about it being repeditive, Zelda titles (and every other Nintendo franchise that gets criticized for every itteration being 'the same') are quality games. I'd rather play a well-polished version of an already existing archetype than a half-assed game with gimmicky features that tries to brand itself as 'original.'

        Wouldn't you rather Nintendo invest their development time into a new series with new gameplay and story? You say you would rather "play a well-polished version of an already existing archetype than a half-assed game with gimmicky features that tries to brand itself as ‘original.’"
        Don't you believe Nintendo are capable of producing anything original?

          I believe they are, but at the same time I love their old franchises. Heck, the classic franchises are basically synonymous with Nintendo. The day I start complaining about Nintendo overusing their franchises is the day I start complaining about Disney overusing Mickey Mouse to sell cartoons, or DC comics overusing Batman to sell comics, or Microsoft overusing Halo to sell the Xbox.

          I'm not saying they should never attempt to make an original game ever again. Heck if Nintendo did something truly original, I have every faith they'd be able to pull it off. But really, if they want to release a new Zelda game, I'm not going to complain. It's going to be well-developed and fun to play, and that's all that matters.

    Come on wiki leaks! i know its not related to goverment corruption or anything but still! It would be amazing to read this tome.
    Even though it would all be in japanese lol

      nice one lol

    Wind Waker is the happiest post-apocalypse game I've seen!

    “Yes there is a master timeline but its confidential document! The only people to have access to that document are myself, Mr. Miyamoto and the director of the title. We cant share it with anyone else!”

    Why the hell would they keep this information to themselves? It's like Stephen King writing the Dark Tower novels, but deciding on he and his publisher have access to it. Absolute rubbish.

    I rememeber AVGN having a go at this and it was a mess.

    I believe Ocarina was the first in the series, yes. Essentially, many people think that after that, the timeline split. When the Hero of Time returns to age 10, he creates a timeline in which he now lives and Ganon has never ruled (to continue with Majora's Mask and continue with Twilight Princess) and a future timeline where Ganon has indeed ruled for the 7 years and been stopped (with Wind Waker, Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks).

    There is also a theory that these are just all collected legends, and don't necessarily have to share a timeline.

    Does anyone know where Twilight Princess is in the timeline then?

    If you cannot figure the timeline out from playing the games, what possible use does knowing the timeline have?

    They only appear loosely connected at best, I really do not care where each one fits into the grand scheme unless it somehow becomes relevant, which at this stage would be a bit futile with so many games already out.

    I think Ocarina of Time is near the back.

    Anybody got an idea of the currant standing?

    The 'secret timeline documents' is just a conspiracy theory conjured up to keep the fans happy. It's like the "What's In The Pulp Fiction Briefcase." No-one knows, there's no one answer, it's for audiences to fill in themselves.

    There's obviously no 'hard' timeline for Zelda. Nearly all the Links are separate entities and there's no hard evidence either way.

      Agreed. This is how I see it.

      As far as I'm concerned, Ganon and Link are two ethereal entities that come forth and rain destruction upon Hyrule every twenty/hundred/thousand years.

      Yeah, I was always under the impression that a lot of the Links were simply reincarnations of another Link before him. Like, in Spirit Tracks, that Link (I'm relatively certain) isn't the same Link as the one in Phantom Hourglass and Wind Waker. That guy from the ship becomes really old and makes reference to Link being somewhat similar to his old buddy...or something along those lines. It's been a while since I played Spirit Tracks :P

      I don't know if this counts for anything, but that theory was stated as fact by one of Solid Snake's codec conversations in Super Smash Bros Brawl.

      But I don't know if Mei Ling counts as an authority on the Zelda universe. Especially as she wasn't listed as one of those having access to the "document"

    I knew that Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask were related in a sequence, and I put 2 and 2 and found out Wind Waker is basically Ganondorf escaping his imprisonment, killing everybody from OoT, and flooding Hyrule while Link was busy collecting stupid-ass masks in some parallel demension and didn't bother saving everybody. So now its up to some random kid (who is coincidentally also named Link) to go and SAVE THE WORLD!!! (same ganon, zelda, and deku tree from OoT). But I thought Skyward Sword was like some sequel to Twilight Princess. My worry is nintendo will focus too much on motion sensor controls and half-ass the graphics and storyline (coz nintnedo is just retarted that way). I'm still buyin it though...

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