A Metalhead Tribute To Saturday Mornings And Old-School Side-Scrollers

32 responses to “A Metalhead Tribute To Saturday Mornings And Old-School Side-Scrollers”

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   Greyson

   July 31, 2011 at 11:23 am

   That was just awful. Power metal wannabe ESP n00bs

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      Chazz

      July 31, 2011 at 2:08 pm

      Can’t tell if troll or just arrogant Gibtard.

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         Greyson

         July 31, 2011 at 8:02 pm

         A little bit of both…

         And yes again, It was awful and ESPs are shit guitars.

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            Chazz

            August 1, 2011 at 8:44 am

            Lol ESP are shit guitars? Last I checked their quality was better than Gibson who can’t even do a release of $3.5k reissues that don’t have a multitude of issues whether it’s with frets that haven’t been levelled, cracks in the paint or warped necks.

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         Ted

         August 1, 2011 at 12:26 am

         ESP are such kids guitars, only one step up from BC Rich. Warwick aren’t much better either, dull and lifeless sounding things. I didn’t really get into that at all, sounded like plastic and got boring really quickly.

         Death to power metal, power to death metal!

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            Chazz

            August 1, 2011 at 8:48 am

            “Power to death metal” and yet you hate ESP and BC Rich which are two guitar brands commonly used in death metal bands.

            Fail much?

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               Greyson

               August 1, 2011 at 9:15 am

               Hahahahah!! YOURE FAIL MUCH! Please name me these death metal bands that use ESP? only deathcore shitty breakdown bands use them. I’m a shred guitar teacher and I’ve been recording guitars for 15years now ESPs are cheaply made and recording them is horrible they have horrid death rattles because they are made in Taiwan. Sorry but YOU are the n00b on this one. Real death metal bands play anything but ESPs. And who said anything about gibsons? There are more brands than Gibson and ESP you putz. Play a high quality Jackson and you’ll cry you spent your money on some faggy ESP because your deathcore fag idols play them

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               Chazz

               August 1, 2011 at 9:43 am

               I pondered whether you were a troll or an arrogant Gibtard and you said a bit of both hence why I made the point about Gibsons.

               Also, no ESP’s are made in Taiwan. As for death metal bands that use ESP, I’m sure you’ll find few here;

               http://www.espguitars.com/artists.html

               Anyways, enjoy your childish trolling and being a “shred guitar teacher” whilst listening to your “real death metal bands”.

               I bid you farewell.

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               Sam

               August 1, 2011 at 2:06 pm

               Ever heard of Behemoth? please listen to them and tell me their guitars sound bad

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               Sam

               August 1, 2011 at 2:10 pm

               Chaz, you are correct and a true metalhead \m/ I salute you

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               Chazz

               August 1, 2011 at 3:01 pm

               Haha thanks Sam.

               I think our angry little friend should perhaps listen to some Behemoth or maybe some Hypocrisy to get an idea of what ESP’s sound like when used to play death metal.

               Then again when he throws around words like “true death metal bands” you just know you’re dealing with someone who borrows from the ACL line of thinking. 😛

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               Sam

               August 1, 2011 at 3:23 pm

               Ahh to very true, he might be one of those ones who think Slipknot are death metal >_>

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               Ted

               August 1, 2011 at 3:30 pm

               That “death to power metal, power to death metal” was me being silly really, going back to my metal days which have long past.. I can say though that we would have never considered Behemoth of Hypocrisy to be real death metal. I understand that times change though and you kids love that sort of thing, along with ESP. There is definitely a market for it.

               I, on the other hand, prefer quality instruments. I play an old Jackson loaded with DiMarzio’s if I’m jamming with an old metal friend and wouldn’t replace it with anything. I’ll stick with my Fender, Gibson and MusicMan for everything else though..

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               Sam

               August 1, 2011 at 4:06 pm

               Please, please tell me what you consider to be a “true death metal” band then

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               Greyson

               August 1, 2011 at 6:49 pm

               Behemoth is black metal my feathered friend. Granted I trolled pretty hard because I like the reactions, but my points remain valid.

               Firstly ESPs are shit. I’m not saying an ESP has never sounded good on record but if you know anything about recording You will know a good producer can make anything sound good, Keshas voice, an ESP guitar, even tin drums can sound good with the right compressors. But for the price and the sound you get out of them they are shit.

               Death metal is suffocation, morbid angel etc.

               Gibtard- I guess that’s my fault I didn’t know such a word existed that refered to a Gibson fanboy but hey I learnt something. I just thought it was a general insult which i was ok with because as states above I trolled pretty obviously. Now go cry over the money you spent on your shitty ESP.

               And I play Jacksons mainly too like our friend Ted.

2. 

   ActsOfBob

   July 31, 2011 at 11:50 am

   Freeeeeeeaking AWESOME! Lol… just Brill….

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   JediKilla

   July 31, 2011 at 10:51 pm

   What did I just witness?

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   TvZ

   August 1, 2011 at 8:12 am

   Ok, that was pretty damn funny.

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5. 

   Greyson

   August 1, 2011 at 9:14 am

   Hahahahah!! YOURE FAIL MUCH! Please name me these death metal bands that use ESP? only deathcore shitty breakdown bands use them. I’m a shred guitar teacher and I’ve been recording guitars for 15years now ESPs are cheaply made and recording them is horrible they have horrid death rattles because they are made in Taiwan. Sorry but YOU are the n00b on this one. Real death metal bands play anything but ESPs. And who said anything about gibsons? There are more brands than Gibson and ESP you putz. Play a high quality Jackson and you’ll cry you spent your money on some faggy ESP because your deathcore fag idols play them.

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   Chazz

   August 1, 2011 at 3:48 pm

   “I, on the other hand, prefer quality instruments.”

   Not only is that one of the most ridiculously arrogant things I’ve ever read but this isn’t chocolate we’re talking about here where opinion plays a large part.

   We’re talking about guitars. As in quality of the wood and craftsmanship and such are what determine whether or not a product is good.

   So please, can you tell me why exactly ESP aren’t quality instruments?

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   Sam

   August 1, 2011 at 4:11 pm

   Metallica, Judas Priest, Slayer, Dio, Alice Cooper all use ESP, we wouldn’t have metal as it is today if not for these bands using so called “shitty guitars”. tell me which of those bands are considered “Deathcore shitty breakdown bands”. If you are a real guitar teacher, or even player for that fact, learn a little something about music and metal, and its pioneers and the bands which helped create what it is today

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      Ted

      August 1, 2011 at 6:14 pm

      I would wager that the majority of those guys didn’t use ESP when their classic albums came out, and those that did (if any) were using much higher end models than the ones you see in shops today (quality Japanese gear rather than mass produced Taiwan). It also all comes down to money and endorsement deals, which ESP hand out like candy. ESP are, for the most part, cheaply made, mass produced SE Asian instruments. I’m not saying that everything made in these countries is bad (there is nothing wrong with the newer Ampeg gear, though I’ve heard the PRO series is moving back to America) but it’s certainly not professional level kit. Did you know that Schecter is owned by the same dude? Yes, the same Schecter that used to make high quality gear and is now mass produced South Korean stuff. Seeing a pattern here?

      You probably own a love an ESP, and that’s fine, I’m sure it works great for you and what you do, but don’t try and compare them to Gibson because it is no contest. Some of those ridiculous new USB guitars and stuff they are making are rubbish, I agree, but classic Gibson just can’t be beaten by any non-boutique guitar manufacturer (there are other brands that are just as good with their own breeds of guitar, but nothing that blows a Gibson away).

      Short answer to your question, ESP aren’t quality instruments because they don’t want them to be. They want them to be cheap instruments to sell to kids, because their idols use them (because of endorsement deals).

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         Chazz

         August 1, 2011 at 10:31 pm

         Ted,

         Again you’re going towards sections of the argument that are purely based on opinion. You’ve yet to actually address the real issue here as is your mate, Greyson.

         It’s all well and good that for you guys, your heads are stuck so far up your arses that you’re incapable of looking at anything without nostalgia blinding you but not once have either of you addressed your dislike for ESP properly.

         You’ve both made mention of Taiwan in regards to ESP production which is complete bogus. You also use that as a means for dissing a companies low-end priced gear.

         You seem to be judging ESP by it’s LTD line yet judging Gibson without acknowledging it’s Epiphone line. So for one you are going by a double-standard and two, you’ve obviously never played Gibson re-issues and are going solely on what they’ve built prior to the last two decades which has seen a steady decline in quality.

         Then again, you’re too dim to look beyond a price-tag and a brand name. The fact you call Gibson “boutique” shows how little you actually know and how arrogant you are but you’ll no doubt continue to enjoy stroking yourself to a $4k guitar built with woods that are only 2-3A grade rather than 4-5A grade that should be used for that price range and think you’re the bees knees and for that, I pity you mate.

         I really do feel sorry for “guitarists” like yourself that are so obsessed with the name on the headstock that you disregard other brands with such reckless abandon over non-existent issues that are as well formed as an anti-game ACL statement.

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      Greyson

      August 1, 2011 at 6:50 pm

      They play them now they’re called endorsements brother. Look at what they use to record, Gibsons. Not my fav but it is what it is.

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         Greyson

         August 1, 2011 at 7:05 pm

         Sorry didn’t see Teds comment but yes +1 to that. on those records they do not play ESPs at all. Only live. You know lots of bands record with Gibsons and then play Ephiphones on stage right? Why?

         Because they are lighter and live the sound isn’t as noticeable different as on record.

         ESPs are one of the most over marketed guitars on the planet. It doesn’t make them good because they have the money to pay artists to use them. Those bands like slayer bodom etc, played jacksons and moved to ESPs for the money but look at the models they play, they are the exact Jackson they played before with a new headstock. I know I trolled and that put me in a dumb position but seriously you don’t know as much as you think you do. Unless you play a custom shop Japanese ESP, your stock ESP is shit!

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   Sam

   August 1, 2011 at 4:12 pm

   And please do consider why you are not a famous musician and all these bands are 🙂

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      Greyson

      August 1, 2011 at 7:10 pm

      That’s irrelevant, lady gaga at this point is the most famous person on the planet. Fame means nothing. Kim Kardashian. I’m sure slipknot is more famous than Exmortiis but that doesn’t mean they’re better

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   MattC

   August 1, 2011 at 9:38 pm

   lol semantics.
   You people on either side of the argument both seem to imply you have exclusive knowledge regarding Metal and what makes a great piece of music; but you both fail to realise that the guitar you use barely amounts to anything.
   It’s no wonder that you’re still a “shred” guitarist after 15 years, with that kind of mentality it’s no wonder you failed to grow up and evolve as a musician.
   For shame.

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      Ted

      August 1, 2011 at 10:19 pm

      For people interested in tone and also the art of recording music the type of guitar used actually plays a rather large part. Granted, it’s not going to make someone into a great musician and SRV would still sound like SRV on an SX, but I for one would rather have a guitar that plays and sounds fantastic to one that doesn’t.

      I’m not a fan of shred either, but that doesn’t mean it’s bad music or that someone hasn’t “evolved as a musician.” What does that even mean anyway? Play what you feel and what works for your own form of expression, that’s what art is (not some pretentious little social club).

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         MattC

         August 2, 2011 at 11:12 am

         That’s exactly what I meant. This whole tribal mentality of Metal has got to stop, and metal music that is solely based in the “shred” catagory gets the worst of it. It is (on the whole) less about music and more about showing off. It doesn’t matter how many arpeggios you can do in a minute, it alone does absolutely nothing for music. And the mere fact that you two are warring over guitar brands just looks like the epitome of it.
         This isn’t the “art of recording music” and that phrase is easily one of the most silly, pretentious things I’ve heard all week; and boy have I heard alot. If you think people can’t be bad when it comes to creative expression, you’re dead wrong.

         PS: The neo-classical shtick these Shred guitarists seem to be disposed to pimping is as bad as Andre Rieu’s aural humiliation.

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            Ted

            August 2, 2011 at 1:05 pm

            You don’t think recording music is an art form? You don’t think Gyln John’s was creative in how he miced up a drum kit? You don’t think the Beatles engineer was creative in the way he’d bounce sound off windows and mic the sound coming back at him, or his creative use of stereo? And just like a Neumann is going to sound better than a Behringer, a Fender is going to sound better than a Samick.

            And I still argue that there is no such thing as bad creative EXPRESSION. Because that’s what it is, expression. Not to your tastes maybe, most music certainly isn’t to mine, but I can dig it when a band are doing their thing.

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10. 

    Sam

    August 2, 2011 at 8:21 am

    By the way Greyson, please stop avoiding the question I asked and tell me which of the bands I listed are “deathcore shitty breakdown bands”

    I find it funny how you used us to list which deathmetal bands use ESP, and we did, and then you instantly changed topic without even a mention of the question you asked us to answer which we did. Good sign you were proven wrong and are to stubborn with your Gibson shoved up your ass to admit it, and no, I am not biased towards ESP because I think Gibson make lovely instruments also

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