Tell Us Dammit! iPhone 4S – Who’s Upgrading?

116 responses to “Tell Us Dammit! iPhone 4S – Who’s Upgrading?”

1. 

   Jmonies

   October 5, 2011 at 10:04 am

   Get an android phone, yall can run nintendo emulators on there, I would of chosen an andriod phone having known that prior.

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   1. 

      Jared

      October 5, 2011 at 11:03 am

      You can do that with a Jailbroken iPhone and Cydia.

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      1. 

         Moeman

         October 5, 2011 at 11:09 am

         But why should you have to go through the hassle of jailbreaking?

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         1. 

            Shepard

            October 5, 2011 at 11:56 am

            +1 billion.

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         2. 

            Exaemo

            October 5, 2011 at 12:02 pm

            But why should you have to go through the hassle of using Android?

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            1. 

               Chuloopa

               October 5, 2011 at 12:09 pm

               What a douche comment – lol

            2. 

               Ynefel

               October 5, 2011 at 12:10 pm

               +1.

               ‘I know you are, you said you are, but what am I?’

            3. 

               mo

               October 6, 2011 at 4:07 pm

               this is the only time i will ever be commenting here but you sir win 150%

         3. 

            winhhh

            October 5, 2011 at 2:12 pm

            Jailbreaking ? Hassle ? LOL, do some research before you post buddy.
            Jailbreaking is close to the easiest thing to do, ever.

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            1. 

               Monte

               October 5, 2011 at 2:20 pm

               The hassle, includes more than just the act. things like voiding your warranty, losing support options and navigating the grey areas of a pirate organization owning all your personal details…..

               Android just makes sense.

            2. 

               Jodski

               October 5, 2011 at 2:23 pm

               Just because it’s easy doesn’t make it any less of a hassle.

            3. 

               Chazz

               October 5, 2011 at 2:38 pm

               Or just maybe you could not void your warranty and still have the same features without the other hassle of iTunes and such.

            4. 

               Markd

               October 5, 2011 at 8:54 pm

               The only hassle I can see with iTunes is that it makes doing illegal things slightly more convoluted.. 😛

            5. 

               Markd

               October 5, 2011 at 8:51 pm

               If you’re the kind of person that can be bothered jailbreaking a phone, there’s definitely a good chance you’re droid kind of guy (or gal) anyway 😉

            6. 

               Arata

               October 7, 2011 at 4:09 pm

               Wait, wait, wait!! You’re all forgetting what’s important here. He said “I would of”.

               I would of, indeed.

2. 

   Trjn

   October 5, 2011 at 10:05 am

   I have an iPhone 3GS and have been saying since the iPhone 4 came out that I’d wait for the iPhone 4GS (what I was calling it up until yesterday when I heard that it was called iPhone 4S) to come out before deciding what to upgrade to.

   Now that the 4S is announced and pretty much exactly what I was expecting it to be, I have to decide if I stick with iOS or switch to Android/Blackberry. Tis a tough choice, but so far I am leaning towards the 4S.

   Availability may be a deciding factor though, getting a new iPhone shortly after the models are released is damned near impossible unless you’re one of those poor sods that camp out for them.

   Maybe I’ll ask my friends who will be camping out for them to go grab me one.

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   1. 

      Trjn

      October 5, 2011 at 10:06 am

      Oh and gaming on my phone doesn’t happen much. I burn through the battery already and with my Kindle, I always have something else to do on the train.

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      1. 

         706

         October 5, 2011 at 1:00 pm

         I would not recommend the Blackberry. I don’t know much about phones or have much experience with them but we got a half dozen 9700 Bolds at my work and probably half of them have issues such as locking up and screen glitches and 2 of them have died altogether.

         The ‘app store’ on them is also a joke with very few apps most of which are over priced.

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         1. 

            N0NEoftheAB0VE

            October 6, 2011 at 12:57 am

            The only drawback with Android (I have a HTC) is that developers (in this country esp) support the iPhone over Android in spades, so even though Android’s share is greater and the phone’s are generally more customizable and more useful, in terms of Apps it pales in comparison to Apple’s selection.

            Having said that I got both Angry Birds and Cut the Rope for free so it’s not all bad!

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   2. 

      Thom

      October 5, 2011 at 5:58 pm

      If gaming is not a priority, I’d recommend the Galaxy S2 over just about anything. Since the last update, the battery has been comparable to an iPhone, and the expandable memory and changeable battery mean you want have to worry about storage.

      Also, the screen is massive and the handset is small and light. Defintely and improvement on the iPhone 4.

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3. 

   Nicholas

   October 5, 2011 at 10:06 am

   Xiaomi Phone for me 😉

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4. 

   James Mac

   October 5, 2011 at 10:06 am

   Not I.

   I’m on a windows phone at the moment.

   It’s a personal preference, but I cannot stand Apple products.

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   1. 

      Markd

      October 5, 2011 at 10:26 am

      You should totally change your name to James Win 😉

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      1. 

         James Mac

         October 5, 2011 at 10:41 am

         Good though that sounds… my old man would be pissed.

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         1. 

            shodannet

            October 5, 2011 at 3:45 pm

            He should change his surname to win too. And Im also on a WP7 phone <3 Samsung Focus

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            1. 

               CanyonOasis

               October 5, 2011 at 11:42 pm

               I’m on wp7 as well. HTC Mozart, it blows my mind.

5. 

   Merus

   October 5, 2011 at 10:09 am

   Just got a 4, so not really looking to upgrade; Android looks interesting, but part of my wanting an iPhone is because it serves as an iPod. The iPod controls are basically baked into the OS, while I don’t know if Android phones even do music and podcasts on anywhere near the same level.

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   1. 

      Suihaira

      October 5, 2011 at 10:19 am

      My Android has apps that do podcasts and music pretty well. My only complaint would be that I don’t have enough time to listen to them all.

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   2. 

      Corteks

      October 5, 2011 at 1:26 pm

      “while I don’t know if Android phones even do music and podcasts on anywhere near the same level.”

      When I went looking for a new phone one of my major requirements was a good music player and my HTC Legend does not disappoint. Been using Winamp on it and it’s awesome. Wirelessly transferring music from my desktop Winamp to my phone is great too!

      One of my other requirements was also that it didn’t require proprietary software (iTunes/Nokia software/whatever) to transfer MP3s. As far as I’m concerned if I can’t transfer music onto the device just like an external drive that device IS NOT an MP3 player. Maybe it’s a semi-decent music player but if I can’t just drop files on there as-is I consider it a fail.

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6. 

   jellymelly

   October 5, 2011 at 10:11 am

   can’t wait for nexus prime 🙂

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   1. 

      Moeman

      October 5, 2011 at 10:22 am

      This. The specs on the Nexus Prime will blow this iPhone out of the water.

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   2. 

      dmag87

      October 5, 2011 at 11:51 am

      Imagine how pleased Samsung will be by the perceived backlash against Apple with this iPhone 4S. It’s not a bad phone by any means, but people obviously expected a new design. I’d be happy enough with the iPhone 4 look, as long as the screen was a bit bigger. Seriously. 3.5 inch is so small compared to some of the competitors’ phones. Also no 4G is pretty bad, and that’s probs why they didn’t go with the iPhone 4GS name 😉 The Prime has a real chance to disrupt the momentum Apple has had for ages. If it is even on par with the Galaxy S2, but drops the Touch UI, the Prime will make me a very happy individual.

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7. 

   Roger

   October 5, 2011 at 10:15 am

   99% chance I’ll be going towards the iPhone 4S. I admit I was disappointed with the name choice but in the end, it is just a name. Unless they choose to then announce an iPhone 5 in 3 months :/. Btw, this will be my first iPhone 🙂

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8. 

   Ruen

   October 5, 2011 at 10:15 am

   I still have over 16 months remaining on my current contract and even if I didn’t I still wouldn’t by an iPhone, it’s just my opinion but the phone has never truly appealed to me.

   Also I want to point out that its been reported since the announcement this morning Apple’s stock has dropped 4.93 per cent. No doubt it will rebound but just let me have this moment. . .

   HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

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9. 

   Repneiras

   October 5, 2011 at 10:16 am

   Bought a new phone a few weeks ago (Xperia Play), so there’s no point.

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   1. 

      Chazz

      October 5, 2011 at 10:24 am

      That’s gonna be my next phone, was using my mate’s the other day and it is all kinds of fun.

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      1. 

         dmag87

         October 5, 2011 at 11:54 am

         Would seriously consider it myself, if it had a dual core processor. Also, the lack of support from Sony to port their PS1 or PSP games to the Play is a bad sign for the future of the phone. If Nintendo or Sony really committed to a phone as their main handheld, that thing would be incredible. I would love a Nintenphone 🙁

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         1. 

            Stevorooni

            October 5, 2011 at 1:26 pm

            But the Nintenphone would be incapable of calling anyone unless you had swapped a 16 digit friend code with them!

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         2. 

            coolguy

            October 5, 2011 at 2:23 pm

            That is the only real downfall of the xperia play, no dual core. It’s not a major for me and It works well with all the apps and emulators I run.

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         3. 

            Chazz

            October 5, 2011 at 2:42 pm

            Emulation my man, emulation.

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10. 

    Chris

    October 5, 2011 at 10:17 am

    Nothing in here to make me re-think my decision a couple of months back to grab a Samsung Omnia 7 handset and Windows Phone.

    In fact, I’m now happier I did so. The Samsung handset is just stunning, and the Windows Phone 7 interface now that it has received its Mango update is a thing of beauty. Easy to use, intuitive, clear, fast and just beautiful to look at while being absurdly functional.

    Leaves the iPhone interface looking old and tired TBH.

    Nothing here that Android and WP7 owners should feel sad about. And as for Samsung and its handsets – the popularity is only going to grow.

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    1. 

       Markd

       October 5, 2011 at 10:30 am

       I agree the W7 interface is visually awesome now (though less practical than iOS) but had to lol at the Omnia 7 being ‘stunning’ – I think it looks and feels like a late 90’s PDA 😛

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       1. 

          Chris

          October 5, 2011 at 10:44 am

          Agree with you on the Windows Phone, but I have to say, I do like the Omnia. Not saying its the best handset going around from Samsung, but the display is top-notch and really compliments the WP7 Metro interface.

          The new WP7 handsets being released in the coming months will definitely be a few steps up again though!

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    2. 

       Wilkshake

       October 5, 2011 at 12:52 pm

       I’m calling marketing BS on this comment. Same thing under same name posted over at the SMH website.

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       1. 

          shodannet

          October 5, 2011 at 3:46 pm

          So youre calling BS because the same person had the same thing to say under the same name in an article about the same thing?
          0_o

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          1. 

             Thom

             October 5, 2011 at 6:01 pm

             Whilst I post on both, the similarities in this case smack of form text. Could be mistaken. Does Chris post here often?

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             1. 

                Steve

                October 6, 2011 at 12:54 am

                Same cut and paste comment on Gizmodo too, twice. Either he really wants people to see what he has to say or he’s being paid for it.

             2. 

                shodannet

                October 6, 2011 at 9:15 am

                Considering every single media outlet has been regurgitating what apple has said, could be a case of “FFFFUUUUU-“

11. 

    Markd

    October 5, 2011 at 10:18 am

    I have a 4 and I’ll be upgrading, the speed boost is enough to warrant that, I don’t really think it’s a ‘stop gap’ phone, its just the next one and it’ll be a good year before there is another option. (Assuming android/windows marketplaces don’t magically get to being average in the next year)

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12. 

    Paul

    October 5, 2011 at 10:19 am

    Wouldn’t bother… there’s plenty of other phones out on the market that will work just as good if not better.

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13. 

    Poita

    October 5, 2011 at 10:22 am

    I’ll be upgrading, the faster specs than the standard 4 are good enough for any games likely in the next 2 years, and the iOS5 updates fix everything that shit me about my 3GS and iOS.
    I will be upgrading for sure. I think this is effectively the iPhone5 anyway, can’t imagine what more I’d want for the next 18months at least, and I don’t see the iPhone 5 having a faster processor or graphics if it comes in the next 12 months.
    I’d expect a new iPad before the 5.

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14. 

    Dire Wolf

    October 5, 2011 at 10:28 am

    I’m currently using a really cheap pre paid telstra phone that runs android that I got earlier in the year. Its main use so far has been telling me what time it is. I tried to download some games or apps but there weren’t many good ones or the ones that were good weren’t supported on my phone. Also browsing the internet and app store costs $1 a minute and that’s way too expensive.

    Maybe it’s time I finally jumped on board with the whole smart phone thing. I have no idea about anything to do with phones though. All this talk of contracts and plans and the like just has my head spinning. Also $700+ for a phone seems way too much.

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15. 

    NegativeZero

    October 5, 2011 at 10:29 am

    I have a 3GS and was waiting for this to be announced for months so I could upgrade, but now that it has I’m feeling kind of underwhelmed and I don’t think I’ll bite unless Nokia’s upcoming WP7 offering ends up also being disappointing.

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16. 

    Klutar

    October 5, 2011 at 10:29 am

    iPhones aren’t even good, they are just a hipster status symbol.

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    1. 

       Markd

       October 5, 2011 at 10:34 am

       I’m not sure you can have 100 million hipster and them still be hipsters.. I’d say it’s the opposite, its hip to have a windows phone

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       1. 

          Klutar

          October 5, 2011 at 10:38 am

          Not when everyone gets one, for sure.
          I mean now, when the new one just releases.

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    2. 

       monkeyd_93

       October 5, 2011 at 12:10 pm

       ^^this.

       Had a debate with a friend last year after he said iphones were cool, and i said every feature they have is in other phones with a mark up and also become outdated in next to no time (drop of support after 2 years, when hardware components typically the same). The only thing that is selling iphones is the fact the symbol people believe it to have in society. Same deal with macbooks. Bought a laptop a couple of months ago with the same specs as the 15″ Pro, yet mine cost $800, and a macbook is upmost $2000, so the only difference is essentialy the OS and symbol.

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       1. 

          Markd

          October 5, 2011 at 5:02 pm

          Other phones dont have the same features though, they don’t have the app store and they aren’t as physically nice to touch and look at – and that is a far more important thing than in my experience, a lot of kotaku and gizmodo readers seem to understande. I would gladly pay another 2 grand for a macbook over some other laptop for the OS and the design. A lot of people buy things with the Apple logo on them because they feel comfortable about using them, not because its a status symbol. I’m talking about mums, dads, and grandparents. iOS and OSX feel nicer to use and are easier for people who dont care about knowing how computers work, which is most of us.

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          1. 

             Thom

             October 5, 2011 at 6:03 pm

             I’d say that the Samsung S2 and the HTC range are actually nicer to touch – light but solid, sleek.

             Can’t argue about the apps store. I think Android has enough for the quantity and quality to not be much of an issue, but the Android store itself could definitely be improved.

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          2. 

             Chazz

             October 5, 2011 at 6:28 pm

             You don’t need to know how a computer works for them to be easy to use. You just need to have half a brain.

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             1. 

                Markd

                October 5, 2011 at 7:40 pm

                I disagree, I think people who have grown up not only using but enjoying technology (basically you’re in this group if you are reading this website) typically have a terribly skewed view about how the majority of the world grasps computing and the challenges involved.

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             scree

             October 5, 2011 at 8:17 pm

             My G4 notebook cost me $4000. 3 years later it was absolutely useless. I can’t use anything simple like bejeweled, I can’t use the internet because flash won’t install and also I can’t upgrade it.
             I will never buy another Apple product.

             Also I have an Xeperia X10 and it’s done me very well.

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    3. 

       Mr Waffle

       October 5, 2011 at 7:00 pm

       iPhones are hipster symbols in the same way that Android phones are arrogant high-horse-riding tech nerd symbols. It’s the phone equivalent of Mac vs Linux.

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17. 

    Elly Hart

    October 5, 2011 at 10:29 am

    Android girl for life.

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    1. 

       Klutar

       October 5, 2011 at 10:49 am

       4LYF

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       1. 

          Nate

          October 5, 2011 at 8:00 pm

          Haha

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18. 

    Ash

    October 5, 2011 at 10:30 am

    I was waiting for this phone for a while… But once it came out i dont think its that good. Ill wait for the Nexus Prime or the new SG3

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19. 

    villa100

    October 5, 2011 at 10:30 am

    Samsung galaxy s2.. cant go wrong best phone on market right now

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20. 

    Sam

    October 5, 2011 at 10:33 am

    I don’t think it’ll be too stop gap. In the way that the iPhone 5 is probably another yr away now.

    I have the 3G too, and it’s terrible.

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21. 

    thistler

    October 5, 2011 at 10:34 am

    I’ll be upgrading from the 3GS but waiting a few months to see if they announce the 5. I only really want it for developing for anyways, so I might end up with an android seeing as I don’t have access to one. Nexus Prime? Gotta look into it!

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22. 

    al

    October 5, 2011 at 10:45 am

    I sold my galaxy a month ago preparing to go back to the iPhone camp. Was very disappointed with the announcement. I might go for another android or maybe wait and see what Nokia can offer with WP7 (im expecting they might do something really special to win people over again)

    But honestly. all phones are the same, they are just app launchers.

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23. 

    twoblades

    October 5, 2011 at 10:51 am

    I’ll wait for the Nexus Prime. Rumourland suggests it’s going to have a 4.6″ 1280×720 screen. That’s HD. AITCH-DEE!

    I hate Apple with a passion. I work in the telco industry, so I deal with iPhones a lot.

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24. 

    Stuart

    October 5, 2011 at 10:58 am

    I think i’ll be upgrading my 3GS. All it’s wanted to do in the last few months is die (software wise) by constantly entering Recovery Mode, and with useless iTunes not being able to fix it or Restore it….
    Yay for programs like TinyUmbrella kicking it out of Recovery Mode.

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    1. 

       Stuart

       October 5, 2011 at 2:41 pm

       So after reading what Australia won’t be getting with the 4S on Lifehacker.
       http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2011/10/what-australians-dont-get-with-the-iphone-4s/
       No 4G, LTE, iMatch, and obviously Siri may no accept our accent very well. I will be taking big notice of Samsung on Oct 11th and see what they have to offer me.

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25. 

    Tom

    October 5, 2011 at 11:05 am

    Very happy Samsung Galaxy SII owner here.

    I went the GS2 over the Iphone 4 and haven’t regretted it for a second. After hearing todays announcement about the Iphone “5” I’m even happier I went the Android phone.

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26. 

    eggbertegg

    October 5, 2011 at 11:12 am

    this is how it will go,
    vodafone customers will complain about poor service they have now,before and with the current iphone they have, they will demand upgrade to get the new iphone, still have poor service and then winge about it

    way to go ppl just what vodafone wants

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27. 

    Trent

    October 5, 2011 at 11:13 am

    I finally got rid of my 3G for a 4 back in June. People said I should have waited for the next model, but now it’s been revealed I don’t think I’m missing out on anything I’d really use.

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28. 

    Shane

    October 5, 2011 at 11:13 am

    My phone is so old it doesn’t even have predictive text, and even I’m not excited about this 🙂

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29. 

    Crispy

    October 5, 2011 at 11:14 am

    My contract is up in November, so I’ll be getting a 4S for sure. I made the mistake of getting a 3G 2 years ago instead of going for the 3GS. Huge mistake buying anything other than the latest hardware.

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    1. 

       Thom

       October 5, 2011 at 6:06 pm

       So given the hardware in this isn’t that impressive, shouldn’t you grab a Samsung or HTC handset. Or do you really mean latest apple release when you say “latest hardware”.

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30. 

    silentwolf

    October 5, 2011 at 11:20 am

    Nope, using a Samsung Focus running WP7 and its perfect :).

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31. 

    Boomzzilla

    October 5, 2011 at 11:39 am

    Played on my mate’s son’s sony xperia play station phone the other day and came to the conclusion that it’s the only phone that does any game’s well that use traditional controls.
    Sure angry birds and the like are fine on a touch screen but for a snes or ps1 emulator only the xperia is any good.I know it’s got a bad rap and no hype but I like buttons and dual thumb “sticks”.

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    1. 

       coolguy

       October 5, 2011 at 2:26 pm

       +1

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32. 

    GentlemanJ

    October 5, 2011 at 11:41 am

    If only it had a bigger screen, then I would have got it for sure but now the Galaxy 2 just looks so much more appealling.

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33. 

    scruffy

    October 5, 2011 at 11:51 am

    I’ll probably get one; my 3GS isn’t far from the end of its contract, and it’d be easy to port over my library of games.

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34. 

    Markd

    October 5, 2011 at 11:57 am

    I wonder what people’s reaction would be if it was exactly the same increased specs and slightly different body but called ‘5’ instead of ‘4S’.

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    1. 

       Ynefel

       October 5, 2011 at 12:29 pm

       Completely different, I’d wager, I mean that’s all the previous iPhones have been, and people went berserk over them.

       Interesting thought.

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    2. 

       DerangedStoat

       October 5, 2011 at 12:43 pm

       My thoughts exactly, the general reaction to this has me completely confused, as though the name of the device is more important than it’s performance.
       Talk about driving the stereotype of the average Apple buyer!

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    3. 

       Joshy206

       October 5, 2011 at 1:01 pm

       If it was the iPhone 5 and Steve Jobs had marketed it, this wouldn’t have been a disappointment, but a applegasm.

       Incidentally, applegasm is what they feed you at Applebee’s in America.

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    4. 

       Thom

       October 5, 2011 at 6:09 pm

       I disagree. Calling it a 5 would have damaged the brand.

       Each generation of the iPhone has seen pretty major advancements. That’s what people expect. This phone is less than impressive. It’s almost the same as the 4 with an updated processor that’s basically industry standard. Thus, people will be disappointed, but at least they have room to release a superior 5 handset, the real next generation.

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       1. 

          Markd

          October 5, 2011 at 7:44 pm

          I’m not sure who you’re disagreeing with, but I agree with you, this shouldn’t be and was never going to be a 5 – it’s simply bad business sense to be too consistent in changing the form and name of the phone. You need to have 2 years every now and again so that people are given the chance to own ‘the latest iPhone’ for longer, and in the US for the full term of their 2 year contract. (4/4S doesn’t count, really 4S is like the 3GS, its just there to keep the technical standards at the pointy end for the media and tech-loving people that care).

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35. 

    Chuloopa

    October 5, 2011 at 12:09 pm

    Yeah – no thanks – more than happy with my HTC desire HD – i don’t see me buying apple products anytime soon…

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    1. 

       Virus__

       October 5, 2011 at 12:40 pm

       Loops! o/

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36. 

    blunt

    October 5, 2011 at 12:26 pm

    I recently went from an iPhone 3G to the Samsung Galaxy S2 because Apple were dragging their ass announcing a new model and now that it has finally been revealed I can say I am even happier with my purchase.

    You snooze, you lose.

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37. 

    Virus__

    October 5, 2011 at 12:39 pm

    My friend who has been waiting is excited. I was personally hoping for more power/features. But that’s me I always want more for my money.

    I would love to ditch my Nokia E51 this non qwerty keyboard is doing me in. Time to start looking at what’s decent & what takes my fancy.

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38. 

    DerangedStoat

    October 5, 2011 at 12:41 pm

    I don’t understand all these comments saying “it’s not worth it, because it’s not an iPhone 5”.
    It’s just a model number/name people (and a body shape), hardware-wise, the 4S is a massive upgrade over the 4.

    But it needed to be too, given the rumoured specs of upcoming Android handsets.

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    1. 

       WiseHacker

       October 5, 2011 at 12:50 pm

       You’re right here. My first iPhone was a 3GS, which was just new hardware in an iPhone 3G.

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    2. 

       Steve

       October 6, 2011 at 1:02 am

       “the 4S is a massive upgrade over the 4”

       Here are the hardware improvements this time around.

       -Antenna: I sure bloody hope so considering they fucked up the last one so hard
       .
       -Processor: This is only useful in bleeding edge games. It’s not going to run your apps any faster and will only improve load times.

       -Camera: A phone camera is a phone camera. It’s never going to be a DSLR. And for the mainstream happy snapper, the IP4’s camera has already been adequate enough.

       Everything else remains identical. Same screen, same shell and build quality, same software feature set (minus Siri). Basically all the IOS5 features announced at this keynote are fully backwards compatible with the IP4. So convince me as to why this is such a ‘massive upgrade’

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       1. 

          DerangedStoat

          October 6, 2011 at 9:31 am

          What else would have to change for it to be classified as a big upgrade then?
          The only thing left to change would be the screen… even then it would probably just be a size increase, resolution would probably stay the same as the current Retina display.

          Compare it to a PC upgrade, new CPU, RAM and graphics card would be considered a pretty major upgrade, regardless of what you’ll run on it.
          That’s what they’ve done with this phone, they’re still just using an old monitor is all.

          Not that I want a 4S, like many others it seems, I’m waiting to see what the Nexus Prime brings to the table… Hell, I’m still using a Razr clamshell as my personal phone…

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          1. 

             Steve

             October 6, 2011 at 7:40 pm

             The smartphone upgrade cycle is completely different from PC’s. New PC programs consistently take advantage of the latest hardware to make noticeable differences in detail, frame-rate, multi-tasking etc.

             Compare this to a smartphone, where apps are resource efficient and all apps are developed to run on IP4 or even 3GS hardware (or risk fragmenting their user base). They run perfectly fine on preceding devices, with nothing optimised for the current model. So any benefit in using the newest chip is completely negligible.

             Siri was an iPhone 4 app that has since been pulled from the Appstore (and all support cut from October 15) to be made an exclusive feature to the newest model. There is no reason it can’t run on iPhone 4, other than to nudge customers to upgrade and give Apple even more money.

             As for screen. They really need it. After using 4.3+ inch screens like Galaxy S II or HTC Sensation, going back to the 3.5 inch of iPhone feels cramped. Therein lies Apple’s conundrum. Their current UI and apps are designed around 960×640 so they likely won’t change that, but if they increase it to 4.3 inches, the DPI will drop below 300 and they probably can’t market it as ‘Retina Display’ anymore.

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                DerangedStoat

                October 7, 2011 at 9:06 am

                Fair enough, can’t argue with any of those points.
                Personally though, while I see how it’s nicer to use, I wonder where they will draw the line on screen size. There is only so much that can fit in ones pocket.

39. 

    boomtish

    October 5, 2011 at 12:48 pm

    Samsung Galaxy SII for me. Apple, do you remember that other mobile company that rested on it’s laurels, Nokia?

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       Sam

       October 5, 2011 at 10:47 pm

       It’s standard practice – if plans have 24 month contracts, it doesn’t make sense to bring out a revolutionary update within that time period. This is completely in line with past – 3GS. It means that my father-in-law with his 3GS is starting to fall apart and the 4S is perfect for him, but I’m not too jealous being only halfway along my iPhone 4 contract.

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40. 

    WiseHacker

    October 5, 2011 at 12:49 pm

    I got myself a iPhone 4 a while back (when the contract on my 3GS ran out) and while the new specifications are nice my current iPhone 4 still does what I need it to do.

    The problem I see is as the 4S is a dual core, it is going to be some time before current apps mature (if at all) and take advantage of the additional processing power. And new apps will show that one has to think more carefully programming wise.

    I think I will upgrade again after my contract runs out – they might even have an iPhone 5 by then.

    What I am really more interested in is the release of iOS 5 and its cloud offerings.

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41. 

    Brendan

    October 5, 2011 at 1:01 pm

    I like the idea that if Apple had called teh iPhone 4S the iPhone 5 noone would be complaining.

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42. 

    SuperKlue

    October 5, 2011 at 1:26 pm

    Got a 4 at launch. Will wait for the 5.

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43. 

    Stevorooni

    October 5, 2011 at 1:29 pm

    Still rocking a Nokia on the GSM network >_>

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44. 

    Todd

    October 5, 2011 at 2:18 pm

    Ill be sticking with my iPhone 4…. but the 64GB storage capacity has me making glances…. to carry my whole music collection on my phone would be amazing!

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45. 

    Rich

    October 5, 2011 at 2:25 pm

    Samsung Galaxy SII here too. Very happy I got it over an iphone, especially once I cleaned out all the rubbish pre-loaded apps. Oh and the amazon appstore now works in Australia so PvZ and Peggle FTW!

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46. 

    miniluv101

    October 5, 2011 at 2:28 pm

    With a product life tied to the length of a mobile phone contract I don’t see how any new product in this market can be considered anything other than ‘stop gap’. The moment you realise how many of these things you’ll consume during the course of your life the less the decision matters. I barely remember my transition between phones, the one in my pocket feels like its been there for half a decade despite being routinely replaced.

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47. 

    thyco1

    October 5, 2011 at 2:53 pm

    I have an iphone 3g, just tell me why i should even bother with upgrading everytime a new phone comes out?

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48. 

    Intercept

    October 5, 2011 at 3:22 pm

    I am quite happy with My Windows phone. Looking forward to the new update then it should be fantastic 🙂

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49. 

    veddermandan

    October 5, 2011 at 3:33 pm

    As long as you need iTunes i will never have an a iPhone.
    I have an iPod touch, loaded my songs and books than deleted iTunes.

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50. 

    KT

    October 5, 2011 at 5:09 pm

    Nah looking for something with a larger screen…SGS2 here I come 🙂

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51. 

    NinjaDude

    October 5, 2011 at 9:39 pm

    I’m considering buying the iPhone 4S, however if Apple releases a new iPhone next year that is compatible with 4G LTE then I’ll be pissed off. Siri looks pretty neat too!

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       jellymelly

       October 5, 2011 at 11:03 pm

       they probably will

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