Rayman Creator Doesn't Like Mario (But Miyamoto Didn't Like Beyond Good And Evil So They're Even)

Who doesn't like Mario? Well, my wife for one, who thinks it's creepy that a middle aged man would dress up in a bee outfit, and Michel Ancel -- the creator of Rayman and Beyond Good And Evil. Despite being called the 'French Miyamoto', apparently Ancel isn't a fan!

"I think I'm very different from Miyamoto," he said, speaking to Gamasutra. "And not only because I don't speak Japanese! In my opinion, he focuses a lot on gameplay, whereas I really like to work with technical tools, too.

"I will tell you something terrible -- I don't really enjoy playing Mario games. I don't like gliding, I don't like its inertia, and I don't like not being able to give some slaps! It's a fabulous series, and I understand that people love it, but it's not my cup of tea.

"I used to prefer Ghosts n' Goblins, Heart of Darkness, Another World -- games with a focus on the narrative side. Beyond that, I find Mario's controls very interesting, but I don't buy it. I can't help but seeing the ropes of the game, even if it works. The game is thrilling, obviously."

There is mutual respect, of course, but according to Ancel, Miyamoto wasn't exactly the biggest fans of one of his titles either.

"[Miyamoto] even told me he wasn't fond of BGE! He really liked the cooperation work with Pey'j, but wasn't satisfied with cameras. He suggested we had a look at what Nintendo did with Super Mario Sunshine."

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    Miyamoto games are pure fun to pick up and just enjoy, but I also prefer a stronger story. It'd be a touch choice to make if you had to go to the one you loved most. ;)

      *tough choice. TOUGH. CHOICE. ;)

        If it was a touch choice that could be one sexy choice. xD
        I don't think I could choose between the two. Both are good in their own right, it's like comparing Apples and Oranges imo.

          That response is exactly why I had to clarify. :D

          Agreed, when you compare Mario games to BG&E, (I haven't played any Rayman games so I can't speak to their qualities) you're basically comparing 2 positive traits in gaming that I don't think have that much to do with each other.

          With Mario you have a more pure "fun" experience, with super well polished character control mechanics and a world built to be explored with these mechanics, with the ultimate goal of getting to the end.

          While with BG&E the control mechanics of the game are there pretty much for the narrative, and I think in those terms, BG&E is one of the best examples of interactivity driving drama, where it's your actions driving the world's events at large along with developing the characters.

          Both are awesome at what they do, but for wholly different reasons.

    I also never fond Mario. It's just a personal preference

    If you like a strong storyline in your game, then you probably wouldn't enjoy mario games. If you're more interested in mechanics and having a huge suite of tools for your character to use, you might not like BGE.
    Hell, if you want strong character personality, you probably wouldn't like Doom, but all are great games.
    Eventually, it all comes down to priorities and preferences.

      there's a story line in Rayman??
      thats the first ive heard of it.

      personally im glad they dont agree with each other.
      i love mario and i love rayman (especially the latest one)
      different ideas are great.
      i also love zelda and BG&E is probably my favorite non zelda adventure game.
      if they both had the same ideas and opinions of how games should be played and presented than id be doing the same thing all the time and that would be disappointing

    I like that Mario has a baseball bat.

    That's OK Ancel. However, it is hard to argue that the recent Rayman Origins has been influenced by new super marios wii.

      I agree, it would be hard to argue that Rayman was influenced by Super Mario Wii.

      Because of the co-op platforming aspect? There have been co-op platformers for decades.

    To be very honest, i'm not that big a Mario fan either.

    Your wife sounds fucking hilarious. That made me lol.

    French wanker.
    The Rayman series is crap a uni student would do compared to what Shigeru has done for the games industry.

    Stupid cheese eating surrender monkey, haven't you got another Rabbids mini game pile of shit to make.

    End rant/

      ...haven't you got a ditch to go fall in and die?

      Never understood how another person's opinion can elicit reactions like this one, it's just...I don't get why and how people get so angry :/

        Totally. I read the article and found it enjoyable, yet this guy seems genuinely pissed off. Poor bloke, probably still lives at home and has trouble talking to girls or something.

    I think I like Mario... but there always comes a point where the challenge outweighs the fun and I remember that I hate Mario.

    Beyond Good and Evil is one of the greatest games I've ever played, and I love it.

    Mario is decent, I recently finished 3D land, but the series is getting really stagnant. They're getting easier and easier, and 3D land was a cakewalk. Even the challenge levels were easy, and they ended up just putting cosmic mario in every level as the only arbitrary way to increase difficulty.

    Rayman Origins looks awesome, but this dude helped create Rabbids. Quite possibly my most hated gaming mascot in the entire freaking world. So I say they're even.

    One thing I will say, is that Beyond Good and Evil had a great plot, and was a huge step up from previous Rayman games in terms of story and gameplay. Mario and Zelda still have really basic kiddy plots and mute main characters, they don't get you interested. Sure, the gameplay is good, but a great game needs more than that, and NIntendo isn't listening. Each new game is easier and easier and all the games are on a downward spiral of casual gameplay..

    I like BG&E, but he is right about the camera.

    Hahaha, Miyamoto. "I like what you did with Pey'j, but you should look at OUR games for how to do cameras."

      In that respect he was utterly correct though, if I had to think of reasons I ultimately thought Sunshine was a better game than BGE, camera angles would possibly be the defining difference. There was a lot to love about BGE but by god the camera was the hardest boss in the game.

    Wait... does he mean the Heart of Darkness PS1 game? (Other people know of that?)

    Why won't ozgameshop hurry up and deliver my CE of Rayman Origins, I'm sick of seeing it in stores and not being able to play it.

      Ah the onliner's lament: Water Water everywhere - and not a drop to drink...

        ...and some how most of it black.

    I just saw this...

    but wasn’t satisfied with cameras. He suggested we had a look at what Nintendo did with Super Mario Sunshine.”

    Is Miyamoto the ultimate troll or what?? Did he witness his own horrible camera in Super Mario Sunshine!!?

      BGE was a game about the reporter. You had to take photos in it (hence cameras) not the games camera.

        So Miyamoto told him to check out a game that had not photo gameply to do it better in BG&E?

        Nah I think he was talking about player camera.

    Love Mario. Love Rayman, hell I even love the Rabbids (they're just so goshdarn hilarious). So I say;

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONFVIfrPQxc#t=00m37s

      I think that might be the first time I've seen you LOVE something Chazz. Always so hostile.

        I love plenty of things.

    serrels why are you assuming mario is middle-aged? there is nothing to indicate that he is middle-aged :(

    non-middle-aged young-ish people can have mustaches and be a little chubby, you know!

    also look how clear his skin is. he can't possibly be over thirty.

    every guy under thirty around here has a mustache, for example.

    I really don't see why beyond good and evil gets put up on a pedistal, I played about half on xbox1 and got bored.Average gameplay, graphics, everything.Now I realize it was the critics darling a bit like little big planet, but that at least had a original style.BGE was just part zelda,part pokemon snap etc...

    hey folks i'm new to gaming and looking for a game similar in style to wii mario but not as hard- i'm a 31 yr old rookie. is rayman like that, what else.
    thanx

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